2016 Election -- Part II

This thread is a continuation of the 2016 Election thread, started by Beethoven9th. After 766 pages of posts, that thread was getting prohibitively long to split-off tangential posts, which this topic tends to engender.

The question for the poll is who do you plan to vote for?

There is not a box for a write in with a blank where you can 'write in'.

It may be time to send Face "THAT PM".

In my state (Texas) the Republican usually wins by a landslide, so I typically vote for a third-party candidate, like a Green. But there's a chance that the Texas race will be close this year, and if so, I plan on voting for Hillary. Which is a long way of saying, I didn't vote in the poll, because my answer isn't listed. ("Undecided")

In all seriousness can someone explain or persuade me why I should vote for Hillary? I'd love to have a serious discussion thread

Quote: MichaelBluejay

In my state (Texas) the Republican usually wins by a landslide, so I typically vote for a third-party candidate, like a Green. But there's a chance that the Texas race will be close this year, and if so, I plan on voting for Hillary. Which is a long way of saying, I didn't vote in the poll, because my answer isn't listed. ("Undecided")

I don't think that there is much of a chance of the race being close in Texas. There were 2.8 million Republican votes in the primary; the Democrat party had a little over 1.4 million votes. Even with a huge Cruz victory, Trump only was behind the landslide Democrat winner by less than 200,000 votes. The 1.2 million Cruz voters may not vote, but the ones that vote won't do so in large numbers for Hillary.

I do see Texas heading towards a possible change in direction in the future; I just don't think this is the year or Hillary is the candidate. Outside of Austin and some other liberal enclaves, Democrats on the national level seem to only come here for money. There would have to be a lot of money spent to have a chance at changing Texas: I just don't see a campaign doing that this year.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

In all seriousness can someone explain or persuade me why I should vote for Hillary? I'd love to have a serious discussion thread

What are you looking for in a candidate? Do her positions fit what you are looking for better than her opponent's? You can make arguments for her getting your vote based on experience, her positions, etc., but first it helps to know what you want in a candidate.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

In all seriousness can someone explain or persuade me why I should vote for Hillary? I'd love to have a serious discussion thread

All I ever hear is that she is a woman or she was married to Bill and somehow that qualifies her for the job.

Quote: AZDuffman

All I ever hear is that she is a woman or she was married to Bill and somehow that qualifies her for the job.

He asked about discussing "why" he should vote for her, not why you (presumably) and I won't. That is a fair question and it deserves a answer deeper than our usual answers about her.

--Senator
--Secretary of State

Two pieces of experience that Trump, for example, does not have.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

In all seriousness can someone explain or persuade me why I should vote for Hillary? I'd love to have a serious discussion thread

I may break this off to a new thread if it gets a few more replies, but I think the most important part of voting is to know what the party intends to do if they get in office. And then vote for what's important to you. Because the candidates are each only one person, and they take their positions from the party platform.


You want a bunch of people blocked by walls, kept out for their religion ,or thrown out of the country, vote for Trump.
You want to allow immigrants, fix what's wrong with the system, but bring in the fresh blood to continue American growth, vote for Hillary.

You want billionaires running the country, vote for Trump.
You want bank regulation strengthened, Dodd Frank enforced, vote for Hillary .

You want the affordable care act to continue, get improved, and you can stop paying for uninsured people showing up in emergency rooms and public hospitals for free care, vote for Hillary.
You want to continue private insurance and who cares how the others live, vote for Trump.

You want affordable college for the next generation, vote for Hillary. You don't care, don't have kids, or whatever, vote for Trump.

You want women to be prosecuted for having an abortion, and doctors, vote for Trump. You want women to continue to have a choice, vote for Hillary.

That's what, 4 opposing subjects out of dozens of things both the Republican and Democrat parties are planning to do. Not even the most important ones to me, but maybe one or more is to you. More to come.

However, one thing somebody said this week caught my ear. No matter who you vote for in November there's gonna be a nasty old man in the White House come January. One who's a known serial adulterer, grabb-azz sleezebucket all his life. Me, I prefer Bill's southern come - on to Trump's frat-boy bully gone bad act, but your mileage may differ. Either way, it's a stupid thing for anyone to focus on. So here's hoping we, and the campaigns, don't.

Well done BABBs, really.

I don't necessarily agree with the 'slant' on the subjects but it's catchy, it's sound bite material and valuable.
You should consider reaching out to the DNC, they playin' with hundreds of millions over there (RNC too).
THEY might be willing to PAY for good ideas and hard work.
You might be able to sell to both sides ;-)

<edit> my Walker / Rubio bet lost, same with Kasich /Rubio, but I'm working a progressive so I may break even yet;-)

<watch for Trump to call a press conference, offer Hillary the VP spot to unite the country and 'make it great again' by compromise and working together as Americans. Even if it really is just to see if her head explodes!

< go easy on the grab-azz sleazebuckets in the world. God made me this way, maybe ;-)