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Paigowdan
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December 28th, 2011 at 4:29:26 PM permalink
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I loved Owning Mahowny.


Yes! God Bless you Mosca, great flick. John Hurt was wonderful in it ("Ahh...a PURIST!").
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes - Henry David Thoreau. Like Dealers' uniforms - Dan.
FleaStiff
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December 28th, 2011 at 4:44:42 PM permalink
Quote: belleepoque

Thats the movie i was going to mention......but you described it much better than i would have.

Oh, Croupier is still an enjoyable movie its just that I found it a bit too much of a character study and musings on luck versus a real movie dealing with a casino caper. Its more a character study with the trappings of gambling.

We all knew why the dark glasses were being worn and that the shiner was probably her artfully applied make up. We all knew there was a bandaged wrist but probably a totally uninjured one. We knew it was to be a ploy to ensnare him into aiding a lady in distress. We knew the shoe would drop that very night. And it did.

Its a duality of human nature movie (he rapes Bella but her mind consents almost as quickly as her body does) yet he winds up with her. He does get the second installment on his services for being an inside man, but he gets it from an unlikely source that he had utter contempt for. Clearly the people closing in on him in the casino are there for a reason rather than being the random chance-happenings that his writer persona imagines them to be. His persona is that of a morally and emotionally detached but superior observer of the foolishness of gamblers yet in reality he is the one who has clearly been a poor observer of those around him. And although he has observed and even raised some questions about the activities at the casino and the involvement of casino personnel, it is he who has focused on a tree or two but missed seeing the forest.

So its bemused detached observer being revealed as duped patsy but not truly an unhappy victim. And this makes him identical to the sorry gamblers he has been observing all the while.
DHass22
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December 29th, 2011 at 8:34:02 AM permalink
RAIN MAN!
FleaStiff
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December 29th, 2011 at 9:24:20 AM permalink
Rain Man? Heck, most poker players can do that rain man stuff. You make your living remembering card value and suit at poker, just having to count plus one or minus one ain't a gonna be difficult.
downtowner
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December 29th, 2011 at 9:26:11 AM permalink
I feel a bit like this is a guilty pleasure choice: The Cooler. I like the people in it and the roles they are given.

Also, Indecent Proposal, just for the few seconds that the camera follows the dice down the table in the big bet.

I'll also second two previous suggestions, Big hand for the Little lady and House of Games.

Finally, there was a Twilight Zone where there was a bet that a Zippo lighter would light first time every time. If it didn't one of the guys fingers would be cut off. If it did he made a lot of money. Very well done, but I admit it isn't exactly a movie.
EvenBob
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May 12th, 2012 at 12:47:33 AM permalink
Watched 'The Good Thief' tonight. Nick Nolte was the main
character. At the very end, he tells a young girl the 'secrets'
of gambling. First you wear expensive clothes. Then you act
like you're somebody, and never express any emotion when you
play.

They go to Monte Carlo and play roulette, BJ, and poker. They
play all night and win millions of dollars. Of course they had to
win, it was part of the casino robbery plot.

Its ludicrous movies like this that plant an idea in the public's
mind that beating casinos is easy, you just have to have the
right attitude. No skills, just nice clothes and 'attitude. Stupid
beyond belief.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
SlangNRox
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May 12th, 2012 at 1:27:57 AM permalink
It's not set in a casino, but I really like Poolhall Junkies. The whole movie is about gambling, but its on pool.
rainman
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May 12th, 2012 at 2:07:21 AM permalink
delete.
FleaStiff
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May 12th, 2012 at 3:54:03 AM permalink
"... he tells a young girl the 'secrets' of gambling. First you wear expensive clothes. Then you act like you're somebody, and never express any emotion when you play."
I think there were a few photographs posted here rather recently that depicted some rich old men at the RIO attempting to impart similar wisdom to three young hotties who were there for a 21st birthday party.

"...movies like this that plant an idea in the public's mind that beating casinos is easy, you just have to have the right attitude.
No skills, just nice clothes and 'attitude. Stupid beyond belief."
Oh, I don't know. Alot of movies or advertisements plant ideas about a young man finding a sweet young thing who adores him if he buys the right threads or the right cologne. A vodka company depicted its young females with skinned kneecaps as the inevitable result of imbibing their particular brand of vodka.

I'm beginning to think that the following snippet is indeed a pretty realistic viewpoint.
They are there in a group. Its 3 guys and 3 girls. They are out to blow off some steam and drink lots of booze. They got a room at the IP 'cause they like the balcony. There are six people fighting over those two key cards. One of them is a CW and will soon be prancing around that balcony rail displaying her skills at drunkenly carrying an imaginary tray filled with imaginary drinks, then she will finally get off the balcony and have drunk-sex with one of the guys. Probably the one that is her current boyfriend, but maybe one of the others for old times sake or maybe with one of the other girls and maybe, just maybe, she will remember when she wakes up just who it was she was having sex with, but right now she does indeed think the carnival bets are exciting and she likes the group she is with and most of all she would like another free drink.

Maybe the best gambling movie really is The Croupier.... he made his money writing a book and his oft-expressed sentiment throughout the movie, was " I don't gamble ".
ewjones080
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May 12th, 2012 at 4:13:56 AM permalink
I hated 21. The best part was when the main character was first introduced to Kevin Spacey's character. They talked about Monte Hall's 3 door problem. At first I didn't get why changing your answer made mathematical sense. Afterward, without the distraction of the movie, I understood it. But I really hated the "Hollywoodness" of it, all the CGI shots of chips and tables and cards being dealt out and the so called flash and glamour of Vegas, there was simply too much of it. I also think it would've been betterr if they had lost their first trip, even if that's not what really happened or what happened in the book.

Next with Nic Cage has nothing to do with casino's, but at the beginning he works as a lowly lounge magician, and says he doesn't gamble cause it would attract too much attention to himself. I often daydream about what it would be like to see :30 to 1:00 in the future and how I would bet and what games I would play to make a living in the casino. I think it could be done quite easily without attraction, so long as you're keeping your wins low and don't play too long.

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