Resorts World NYC Table Games
April 19th, 2026 at 12:48:00 PM
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Hello everyone!
Based on credible sources, I believe that in around a week, Resorts World NYC is going to open table games. From what I can tell, they are training hundreds (maybe even thousands) of dealers and they plan to eventually have EIGHT HUNDRED tables in a few years. That would make them have the most table games out of any casino in the entire world!
So, is anyone from this forum going when it opens? I would like to see it out of interest, but unfortunately I will not be allowed to gamble there because of my work - maybe I will check it out with a visiting friend who likes gambling in May.
Based on credible sources, I believe that in around a week, Resorts World NYC is going to open table games. From what I can tell, they are training hundreds (maybe even thousands) of dealers and they plan to eventually have EIGHT HUNDRED tables in a few years. That would make them have the most table games out of any casino in the entire world!
So, is anyone from this forum going when it opens? I would like to see it out of interest, but unfortunately I will not be allowed to gamble there because of my work - maybe I will check it out with a visiting friend who likes gambling in May.
April 19th, 2026 at 12:49:47 PM
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A dealer I know who lives in another part of New York state applied to work there a while ago and they said they wanted someone with a year of experience who knew at least three out of the five core games. You might wonder what they consider the five "core games" in the casino.
1. Blackjack
2. Baccarat
3. Roulette
4. Craps
Can anyone guess #5?
1. Blackjack
2. Baccarat
3. Roulette
4. Craps
Can anyone guess #5?
April 19th, 2026 at 12:59:39 PM
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Ultimate Texas Hold-em
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 19th, 2026 at 1:02:10 PM
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April 19th, 2026 at 1:05:03 PM
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Quote: harrisQuote: DieterUltimate Texas Hold-em
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no
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I'm only going to feel dumb if they rank Big 6 higher.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 19th, 2026 at 1:12:40 PM
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If I were guessing I would have also guessed Big Six but it's not that.
On a side note I hope Big Six goes extinct or that they make a better version with less than 10% house edge on every bet.
On a side note I hope Big Six goes extinct or that they make a better version with less than 10% house edge on every bet.
April 19th, 2026 at 1:28:07 PM
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Given where they are located...
Pai Gow, in various forms?
April 19th, 2026 at 1:31:27 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyGiven where they are located...
Pai Gow, in various forms?
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Yes
But in a specific form rather than various ;)
April 19th, 2026 at 1:49:42 PM
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Quote: harrisQuote: AutomaticMonkeyGiven where they are located...
Pai Gow, in various forms?
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Yes
But in a specific form rather than various ;)
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Ah yes, in this form...
April 19th, 2026 at 2:05:37 PM
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Yeah so the fifth core game is Pai Gow Tiles. Is this game making a comeback? I’m not sure but it’s certainly not dying :)
April 19th, 2026 at 2:19:43 PM
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Quote: harrisYeah so the fifth core game is Pai Gow Tiles. Is this game making a comeback? I’m not sure but it’s certainly not dying :)
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Tiles you can find almost everywhere you have Asian games/gamers. Easy to find- just stay as far away as geometrically possible from all cocktail waitresses and you'll be in the section where Pai Gow is dealt.
It's the regular Pai Gow poker that has mysteriously disappeared, replaced by the inferior and unpopular face-up version.
April 19th, 2026 at 3:19:27 PM
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Fascinating. Their website mentions UTH & 3CP (even Sic Bo if you look hard enough), but they seem not to want people to know that they're offering (will offer?) the core game of Pai Gow.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 19th, 2026 at 3:34:07 PM
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Quote: DieterFascinating. Their website mentions UTH & 3CP (even Sic Bo if you look hard enough), but they seem not to want people to know that they're offering (will offer?) the core game of Pai Gow.
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The current website is talking about their current offerings, which are all electronic games.
That's the only place where I've seen robotic baccarat dealers dealing actual cards.
Wait- let me rephrase that- the only place where I have seen actual robots dealing baccarat with actual cards.
April 19th, 2026 at 3:37:23 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterFascinating. Their website mentions UTH & 3CP (even Sic Bo if you look hard enough), but they seem not to want people to know that they're offering (will offer?) the core game of Pai Gow.
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The current website is talking about their current offerings, which are all electronic games.
That's the only place where I've seen robotic baccarat dealers dealing actual cards.
Wait- let me rephrase that- the only place where I have seen actual robots dealing baccarat with actual cards.
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There might also be some benefit to not talking up "Drink and Push", favoring games that offer the house a better percentage.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 19th, 2026 at 4:12:21 PM
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I have evidence that Spanish 21 will be offered
I assume other “carnival games” will be offered too
I assume other “carnival games” will be offered too
April 19th, 2026 at 5:47:40 PM
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I'll assume 2/3rds of the Black Jack players will be backed off in the first two years. Another reason to stick to Spanish 21 or craps and avoid Black Jack.
April 19th, 2026 at 5:57:54 PM
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https://www.ziprecruiter.com/c/Resorts-World-New-York-City/Job/Dealer-I/-in-New-York%2CNY
thats the first thing chatgpt gave me and its real
lol i realized this website doesnt exist any more until i click the link that chatgpt gives me so heres the text of the website
Job description
Job Responsibilities
The primary responsibility of the Table Games Dealer I is to deal assigned table games while providing a superior gaming experience in a friendly environment.
Essential Duties/Core Competencies
Deals table games assigned, in a proficient and speedy manner, to be able to deal to company established decisions per hour.
Provides courteous service and is cordial to all patrons and team members.
Shuffles cards in a timely manner, ensuring a thorough mix of cards in compliance with casino standards, as well as controlling the pace of the game.
Pays and takes winning and losing wagers according to company policy.
Verifies and signs fills, credits, and associated documents.
Passes on all pertinent information to relieving dealers and supervisors.
Issues chips to customers for either cash buy-ins or credit in accordance with company policy.
Maintains control of shoe, cards, dice and float; always keeping visual contact.
Informs the table games Table Games Floor Manager of all irregularities including suspicious guest activity.
Paces games, taking into account the type of action and ability of players keeping the speed of the game at the most efficient rate possible.
Verifies accuracy when signing all paperwork.
Accepts cash buy-ins, swiping of players cards, closing of rating sessions, and performs drop of cash according to company policy.
Complies with all appropriate Department policies and procedures and gaming regulations.
Adheres to all NYSGC rules, regulations and Internal Controls applicable to your position.
Adheres to all Company Compulsive and Problem Gambling Plan with regards to how to conduct business in this position and specifically the regulations prohibiting service to minors and/or intoxicated persons.
Adheres to and complies with both departmental and overall property policies and procedures.
Performs other tasks as assigned.
Demonstrates consistent regard and dedication to guests, vendors, colleagues and the Company by being engaged, interested and productive
Demonstrates a working knowledge of our marketplace; actively and collaboratively assists in building the best practices necessary for the Company's success
Demonstrates an understanding of the impact actions and decisions have on the Company both financially and on guest relations
Demonstrates the courage and initiative to present new ideas and perspective to create positive results
Exhibits respectful consideration of viewpoints, situations and others
Puts the guest at the forefront of every decision
Work/Educational Experience
Must be at least 18 years old and have the ability to obtain the appropriate license pursuant to the applicable statute, rules and regulations.
High School diploma or equivalent.
Must have completed at minimum 1 of the five core games and enrolled in a second core game or 2 core games one of which must be Blackjack. (core games are Blackjack, Craps, Roulette, Baccarat, Pai Gow Tiles).
Must be enrolled in or have obtained a Table Games dealing certificate through a Dealer training facility with a curriculum approved by the NYSGC.
Essential Requirements
To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each job responsibility satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable accommodation may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.
Ability to showcase dealer skills through an audition.
Proven proficiency in math.
Must have the ability to accurately perform mathematical functions applicable to business needs.
Must be skilled in dealing at minimum one core game and enrolled in a second core game.
Must possess the ability to differentiate Cheque color and appropriate values of each.
Must possess the necessary dexterity to deal a variety of Table Games.
Physical and Mental Demands:
The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by the Team Member to successfully perform the essential functions of this job.
While performing the duties of this job, the Team Member is regularly required to talk or hear. The Team Member is also regularly required to stand, walk, sit, and use hands to finger, handle, or feel objects, tools or controls. The Team Member is occasionally required to reach with hands and arms, and to sit, climb or balance, and stoop, stretch, bend, kneel, crouch, or crawl.
Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception, and the ability to adjust focus. Essential responsibilities include moderate physical ability such as lifting or maneuvering at least fifteen (15) pounds, and prolonged standing or sitting during the shift.
Language Skills:
Ability to read, analyze, and interpret documents, such as policy and procedure manuals and other related documents. Ability to respond to common inquiries from other Team Members or guests. Fluency in English required. Ability to write detailed instructions and correspondence. Ability to effectively present information in one-on-one and small group situations.
Mathematical Skills & Reasoning Ability:
Ability to compute complex mathematical calculations. Ability to work with mathematical concepts such as probability and statistical inference. Ability to apply concepts such as fractions, percentages, ratios, and proportions to practical situations. Ability to decipher various reports and maintain reports upon request with strong decision-making and problem-solving skills. Ability to work well under pressure and deadlines.
Work Environment
The work environment characteristics described here are representative of those that exist while employees are performing the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodation may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.
The noise level in the work environment is typically moderate. When on the property or some back of house areas, the noise level increases to loud. Must be able to interact with internal and external guests in a professional manner.
Due to the unpredictable nature of the hospitality/entertainment industry, employees must be able to work varying schedules to reflect the business needs of the property.
The Company is committed to achieving full equal opportunity without discrimination based on race, religion, color, sex, national origin, politics, marital status, physical disability, age or sexual orientation or any other status protected by law. We welcome the strength of diversity in our workforce.
Working at Resorts World:
Resorts World New York City strives to provide our guests with world-class gaming, exquisite dining, and unique entertainment experiences. We are looking to hire an enthusiastic and dedicated team of professionals.
thats the first thing chatgpt gave me and its real
lol i realized this website doesnt exist any more until i click the link that chatgpt gives me so heres the text of the website
Job description
Job Responsibilities
The primary responsibility of the Table Games Dealer I is to deal assigned table games while providing a superior gaming experience in a friendly environment.
Essential Duties/Core Competencies
Deals table games assigned, in a proficient and speedy manner, to be able to deal to company established decisions per hour.
Provides courteous service and is cordial to all patrons and team members.
Shuffles cards in a timely manner, ensuring a thorough mix of cards in compliance with casino standards, as well as controlling the pace of the game.
Pays and takes winning and losing wagers according to company policy.
Verifies and signs fills, credits, and associated documents.
Passes on all pertinent information to relieving dealers and supervisors.
Issues chips to customers for either cash buy-ins or credit in accordance with company policy.
Maintains control of shoe, cards, dice and float; always keeping visual contact.
Informs the table games Table Games Floor Manager of all irregularities including suspicious guest activity.
Paces games, taking into account the type of action and ability of players keeping the speed of the game at the most efficient rate possible.
Verifies accuracy when signing all paperwork.
Accepts cash buy-ins, swiping of players cards, closing of rating sessions, and performs drop of cash according to company policy.
Complies with all appropriate Department policies and procedures and gaming regulations.
Adheres to all NYSGC rules, regulations and Internal Controls applicable to your position.
Adheres to all Company Compulsive and Problem Gambling Plan with regards to how to conduct business in this position and specifically the regulations prohibiting service to minors and/or intoxicated persons.
Adheres to and complies with both departmental and overall property policies and procedures.
Performs other tasks as assigned.
Demonstrates consistent regard and dedication to guests, vendors, colleagues and the Company by being engaged, interested and productive
Demonstrates a working knowledge of our marketplace; actively and collaboratively assists in building the best practices necessary for the Company's success
Demonstrates an understanding of the impact actions and decisions have on the Company both financially and on guest relations
Demonstrates the courage and initiative to present new ideas and perspective to create positive results
Exhibits respectful consideration of viewpoints, situations and others
Puts the guest at the forefront of every decision
Work/Educational Experience
Must be at least 18 years old and have the ability to obtain the appropriate license pursuant to the applicable statute, rules and regulations.
High School diploma or equivalent.
Must have completed at minimum 1 of the five core games and enrolled in a second core game or 2 core games one of which must be Blackjack. (core games are Blackjack, Craps, Roulette, Baccarat, Pai Gow Tiles).
Must be enrolled in or have obtained a Table Games dealing certificate through a Dealer training facility with a curriculum approved by the NYSGC.
Essential Requirements
To perform this job successfully, an individual must be able to perform each job responsibility satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable accommodation may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.
Ability to showcase dealer skills through an audition.
Proven proficiency in math.
Must have the ability to accurately perform mathematical functions applicable to business needs.
Must be skilled in dealing at minimum one core game and enrolled in a second core game.
Must possess the ability to differentiate Cheque color and appropriate values of each.
Must possess the necessary dexterity to deal a variety of Table Games.
Physical and Mental Demands:
The physical demands described here are representative of those that must be met by the Team Member to successfully perform the essential functions of this job.
While performing the duties of this job, the Team Member is regularly required to talk or hear. The Team Member is also regularly required to stand, walk, sit, and use hands to finger, handle, or feel objects, tools or controls. The Team Member is occasionally required to reach with hands and arms, and to sit, climb or balance, and stoop, stretch, bend, kneel, crouch, or crawl.
Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception, and the ability to adjust focus. Essential responsibilities include moderate physical ability such as lifting or maneuvering at least fifteen (15) pounds, and prolonged standing or sitting during the shift.
Language Skills:
Ability to read, analyze, and interpret documents, such as policy and procedure manuals and other related documents. Ability to respond to common inquiries from other Team Members or guests. Fluency in English required. Ability to write detailed instructions and correspondence. Ability to effectively present information in one-on-one and small group situations.
Mathematical Skills & Reasoning Ability:
Ability to compute complex mathematical calculations. Ability to work with mathematical concepts such as probability and statistical inference. Ability to apply concepts such as fractions, percentages, ratios, and proportions to practical situations. Ability to decipher various reports and maintain reports upon request with strong decision-making and problem-solving skills. Ability to work well under pressure and deadlines.
Work Environment
The work environment characteristics described here are representative of those that exist while employees are performing the essential functions of this job. Reasonable accommodation may be made to enable individuals with disabilities to perform the essential functions.
The noise level in the work environment is typically moderate. When on the property or some back of house areas, the noise level increases to loud. Must be able to interact with internal and external guests in a professional manner.
Due to the unpredictable nature of the hospitality/entertainment industry, employees must be able to work varying schedules to reflect the business needs of the property.
The Company is committed to achieving full equal opportunity without discrimination based on race, religion, color, sex, national origin, politics, marital status, physical disability, age or sexual orientation or any other status protected by law. We welcome the strength of diversity in our workforce.
Working at Resorts World:
Resorts World New York City strives to provide our guests with world-class gaming, exquisite dining, and unique entertainment experiences. We are looking to hire an enthusiastic and dedicated team of professionals.
April 20th, 2026 at 4:03:32 AM
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I’m worried about the impact on upstate casinos, especially resorts world Catskills. And Atlantic City casinos too. There are only these many gamblers, after all. The prosperity of one place is achieved at the cost of other places.
April 20th, 2026 at 4:23:56 AM
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I am going to give my hot take on the matter. If I am wrong that is fine. Not the first time right. I don't see live dealers and table games until the end of the year at best. Probably not until next spring.
For one thing they still don't even have the license. They got the approval for the license but not the same thing. And NYC beauroceacy isn't known for expedience. (There is a dealer school ad on their website. Check out the line at the bottom in the pic below. Clearly states their license is still pending)
Beyond that there are other regulatory and legal issues. Currently they are tied into the NYS Lottery system which has very strict banking regulations (like each days profits have to be put into the state approved bank account. I have read all the gaming statutes in NYC). Any live dealer games would require two sets of cashier book keeping as that would be outside the lottery revenue purview while all the slots would still be in their purview.
Slots must be switched over internally. Currently they are all mini-computers hooked into the central server at the NYS lottery in Albany. They are all operating as Class 3 and must be switched over to class 2 (or vice versa I always get those confused). But it's not as simple as just removing the NYS lottery link. They will need to change the whole slots programming.
All Freeplay is currently controlled by NYS lottery. They determine the amount and rules of distribution. A whole set of compliance just for Freeplay is in the gaming regs. Live tables would therefore have to have a separate system until they divorce themselves of the NYS lottery. I just saw a calendar from them this month and they are still under NYS lottery Freeplay allowance. Perhaps they create a separate player card system but that raises other complications. NYS Freeplay allowance is based on profits and percentages and a whole bunch of ceiling caps.
I just don't see this happening in a few weeks as the OP suggests. It's a massive amount of work to switch over. And if their own website is up to date as seen above they are still pending their license. I don't see them even beginning that type of massive switch until the license is fully granted. If anything were to go wrong they would be up the creek having pulled a premature trigger.
For one thing they still don't even have the license. They got the approval for the license but not the same thing. And NYC beauroceacy isn't known for expedience. (There is a dealer school ad on their website. Check out the line at the bottom in the pic below. Clearly states their license is still pending)
Beyond that there are other regulatory and legal issues. Currently they are tied into the NYS Lottery system which has very strict banking regulations (like each days profits have to be put into the state approved bank account. I have read all the gaming statutes in NYC). Any live dealer games would require two sets of cashier book keeping as that would be outside the lottery revenue purview while all the slots would still be in their purview.
Slots must be switched over internally. Currently they are all mini-computers hooked into the central server at the NYS lottery in Albany. They are all operating as Class 3 and must be switched over to class 2 (or vice versa I always get those confused). But it's not as simple as just removing the NYS lottery link. They will need to change the whole slots programming.
All Freeplay is currently controlled by NYS lottery. They determine the amount and rules of distribution. A whole set of compliance just for Freeplay is in the gaming regs. Live tables would therefore have to have a separate system until they divorce themselves of the NYS lottery. I just saw a calendar from them this month and they are still under NYS lottery Freeplay allowance. Perhaps they create a separate player card system but that raises other complications. NYS Freeplay allowance is based on profits and percentages and a whole bunch of ceiling caps.
I just don't see this happening in a few weeks as the OP suggests. It's a massive amount of work to switch over. And if their own website is up to date as seen above they are still pending their license. I don't see them even beginning that type of massive switch until the license is fully granted. If anything were to go wrong they would be up the creek having pulled a premature trigger.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 20th, 2026 at 4:59:43 AM
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Quote: darkozThey are all operating as Class 3 and must be switched over to class 2 (or vice versa I always get those confused).
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Class II and Class III only apply to tribal casinos under IGRA88.
Class III is the equivalent of "Nevada style" machines (reels stop randomly, pays are based on random reel final positions); Class II use some other mechanism and often set the final reel positions to display an equivalent win.
VLT is often broadly similar to Class II, but operating legally distinctly.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 20th, 2026 at 1:05:35 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: darkozThey are all operating as Class 3 and must be switched over to class 2 (or vice versa I always get those confused).
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Class II and Class III only apply to tribal casinos under IGRA88.
Class III is the equivalent of "Nevada style" machines (reels stop randomly, pays are based on random reel final positions); Class II use some other mechanism and often set the final reel positions to display an equivalent win.
VLT is often broadly similar to Class II, but operating legally distinctly.
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from what i understand, an indian casino can operate as class 3 if they reside in a state that already has class 3 gaming
April 20th, 2026 at 4:26:59 PM
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Pretty sure the VLT's are Class II, so those machines would have to be replaced with Class III machines. Does that take a month or more? This casino is getting an upgrade in their gambling license. But DO has been there before I presume and has seen the bingo balls on the machines, or maybe just never noticed.
Scientific Games Awarded Contract For Tioga Downs Casino & Resort (snipped)
Sep 19, 2016 12:28 PM EDT
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/scientific-games-awarded-contract-tioga-downs-casino-resort
Scientific Games Corporation announced today a new agreement with Tioga Downs Casino & Resort to provide a host of games, systems and table products to the Nichols, New York casino as it begins its transition to a Class 3 commercial casino and resort.
After a competitive bidding process, Scientific Games was awarded a significant portion of Tioga Downs’ expansion representing a slot floor share of more than 40 percent, including 395 slot games and table products for the casino pit, as well as an extensive casino systems suite anchored by the SDS® and CMP™ slot-accounting and player-tracking system.
Derik Mooberry, Scientific Games’ Group Chief Executive, Gaming, said, “We are the only supplier in the industry that can provide Tioga Downs with a complete portfolio of products for its casino expansion. With our extensive new product solutions at Tioga Downs, we will help the property execute on its player engagement, promotions and rewards program goals. We are honored to be Tioga’s partner of choice as they significantly grow and expand their enterprise.”
Tioga Downs is expanding its existing facility, which features video lottery terminals (“VLT”), restaurants and bars next to the harness racing track. The first phase of the expansion, slated to open in the next few months, includes replacing the current VLTs with slot machines and increasing the total number to 946; adding table games and a poker room; and opening two new restaurants. Future plans include a 161-room hotel, spa, event center, 12,000-seat outdoor concert venue and outdoor pool and waterslide.
New York: Tioga Downs Casino Resort acquired by Gaming and Leisure Properties - (snipped)
Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:24 PM
https://cdcgaming.com/new-york-tioga-downs-casino-resort-acquired-by-gaming-and-leisure-properties/
Gaming and Leisure Properties Feb. 6 announced the acquisition of the real estate assets of Tioga Downs Casino Resort in Nichols, New York, from American Racing & Entertainment for $175 million
GLPI and American Racing simultaneously entered into a triple-net master- lease agreement for an initial 30-year term. The initial rent for the new master lease is $14.5 million per year and represents an 8.3% capitalization rate. The initial annualized rent-coverage ratio for the lease is expected to be over 2.3x. Rent associated with the lease is subject to a fixed 1.75% annual escalation beginning with the first anniversary and a fixed annual escalation of 2% starting in year 15 of the lease that carries forward through the balance of its term.
“Tioga Downs further diversifies our portfolio, expanding it to 62 properties across 19 states with 8 tenants. American Racing has 20 years of gaming, horse racing, and hotel experience, marking another addition to our portfolio of gaming-operator tenants,” said GLPI Chairman and CEO Peter Carlino in a statement.
Tioga Downs features a 32,600-square-foot gaming floor with 895 slots and 29 table games and a 2,500-square-foot FanDuel sportsbook. The property also has a 160-room hotel, a 5/8-mile harness horse track, seven food and beverage locations, and an 18-hole golf course. The property underwent a $130 million expansion that began in 2016 after being awarded a Class III casino license by the state of New York.
Tioga Downs Will Officially Open New Casino on December 2, 2016 - (snipped)
https://www.innovation-capital.com/news/2016/11/30/tioga-downs-will-officially-open-new-casino-on-december-2
Nichols, N.Y. , Nov. 30, 2016 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- After a gaming license pursuit that has spanned more than three years, Tioga Downs has announced it will officially open the new casino to the public on Friday December 2 at 3 pm.
The new gaming floor features 33 long-awaited table games, including Blackjack, Craps and Roulette, as well as popular casino games like Pai Gow Poker, Ultimate Texas Hold ‘Em, Let It Ride, 3-Card and 4-Card Poker and the Big 6 Wheel.
Guests who have previously spent time in the Winner’s Circle Lounge, won’t recognize it today. The room was gutted down to the studs and rebuilt to house the casino’s new Poker Room. With 12 tables, seating up to 10 players at each table, the room can accommodate up to 120 players and plans are already being made to host multiple tournament events in 2017.
New tables aren’t the only new games players will find in the casino. The facility also needed to replace all of the 798 video lottery terminals with new slot machines. When the casino is complete, guests will find 944 games, including recently released titles like Game of Thrones, new 3D models like Plants vs Zombies, as well as plenty of bells, bars and cherries. Many of the new machines have a sleeker design and more modern profiles than the older VLTs.
....The request was granted and after a successful second bid process, Tioga Downs was formally granted its full gaming license on Tuesday, August 30. Since that time, construction crews and the entire Tioga Downs team have been feverishly working on first phase additions to the property to get the casino open. ...
(So it took 3 months for the turnaround.)
Scientific Games Awarded Contract For Tioga Downs Casino & Resort (snipped)
Sep 19, 2016 12:28 PM EDT
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/scientific-games-awarded-contract-tioga-downs-casino-resort
Scientific Games Corporation announced today a new agreement with Tioga Downs Casino & Resort to provide a host of games, systems and table products to the Nichols, New York casino as it begins its transition to a Class 3 commercial casino and resort.
After a competitive bidding process, Scientific Games was awarded a significant portion of Tioga Downs’ expansion representing a slot floor share of more than 40 percent, including 395 slot games and table products for the casino pit, as well as an extensive casino systems suite anchored by the SDS® and CMP™ slot-accounting and player-tracking system.
Derik Mooberry, Scientific Games’ Group Chief Executive, Gaming, said, “We are the only supplier in the industry that can provide Tioga Downs with a complete portfolio of products for its casino expansion. With our extensive new product solutions at Tioga Downs, we will help the property execute on its player engagement, promotions and rewards program goals. We are honored to be Tioga’s partner of choice as they significantly grow and expand their enterprise.”
Tioga Downs is expanding its existing facility, which features video lottery terminals (“VLT”), restaurants and bars next to the harness racing track. The first phase of the expansion, slated to open in the next few months, includes replacing the current VLTs with slot machines and increasing the total number to 946; adding table games and a poker room; and opening two new restaurants. Future plans include a 161-room hotel, spa, event center, 12,000-seat outdoor concert venue and outdoor pool and waterslide.
New York: Tioga Downs Casino Resort acquired by Gaming and Leisure Properties - (snipped)
Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:24 PM
https://cdcgaming.com/new-york-tioga-downs-casino-resort-acquired-by-gaming-and-leisure-properties/
Gaming and Leisure Properties Feb. 6 announced the acquisition of the real estate assets of Tioga Downs Casino Resort in Nichols, New York, from American Racing & Entertainment for $175 million
GLPI and American Racing simultaneously entered into a triple-net master- lease agreement for an initial 30-year term. The initial rent for the new master lease is $14.5 million per year and represents an 8.3% capitalization rate. The initial annualized rent-coverage ratio for the lease is expected to be over 2.3x. Rent associated with the lease is subject to a fixed 1.75% annual escalation beginning with the first anniversary and a fixed annual escalation of 2% starting in year 15 of the lease that carries forward through the balance of its term.
“Tioga Downs further diversifies our portfolio, expanding it to 62 properties across 19 states with 8 tenants. American Racing has 20 years of gaming, horse racing, and hotel experience, marking another addition to our portfolio of gaming-operator tenants,” said GLPI Chairman and CEO Peter Carlino in a statement.
Tioga Downs features a 32,600-square-foot gaming floor with 895 slots and 29 table games and a 2,500-square-foot FanDuel sportsbook. The property also has a 160-room hotel, a 5/8-mile harness horse track, seven food and beverage locations, and an 18-hole golf course. The property underwent a $130 million expansion that began in 2016 after being awarded a Class III casino license by the state of New York.
Tioga Downs Will Officially Open New Casino on December 2, 2016 - (snipped)
https://www.innovation-capital.com/news/2016/11/30/tioga-downs-will-officially-open-new-casino-on-december-2
Nichols, N.Y. , Nov. 30, 2016 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- After a gaming license pursuit that has spanned more than three years, Tioga Downs has announced it will officially open the new casino to the public on Friday December 2 at 3 pm.
The new gaming floor features 33 long-awaited table games, including Blackjack, Craps and Roulette, as well as popular casino games like Pai Gow Poker, Ultimate Texas Hold ‘Em, Let It Ride, 3-Card and 4-Card Poker and the Big 6 Wheel.
Guests who have previously spent time in the Winner’s Circle Lounge, won’t recognize it today. The room was gutted down to the studs and rebuilt to house the casino’s new Poker Room. With 12 tables, seating up to 10 players at each table, the room can accommodate up to 120 players and plans are already being made to host multiple tournament events in 2017.
New tables aren’t the only new games players will find in the casino. The facility also needed to replace all of the 798 video lottery terminals with new slot machines. When the casino is complete, guests will find 944 games, including recently released titles like Game of Thrones, new 3D models like Plants vs Zombies, as well as plenty of bells, bars and cherries. Many of the new machines have a sleeker design and more modern profiles than the older VLTs.
....The request was granted and after a successful second bid process, Tioga Downs was formally granted its full gaming license on Tuesday, August 30. Since that time, construction crews and the entire Tioga Downs team have been feverishly working on first phase additions to the property to get the casino open. ...
(So it took 3 months for the turnaround.)
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April 20th, 2026 at 7:00:31 PM
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Quote: ChumpChangePretty sure the VLT's are Class II,
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My medical team specialist thinks y'all may be trying to spike my blood pressure in hopes of seeing that vein throb on the side of my head. Her message for anyone doing so is (and I quote) "😡".
VLT's are operated under state lottery authority.
Class II is never, ever under state lottery authority - always tribal authority.
Now, they may have to (or want to) replace the VLT's with "regular" (Nevada type) gaming machines when the licensing changes, but they aren't going Class III unless a federally recognized tribe manages to turn Aqueduct into a reservation, negotiate a gaming compact, and take over.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 20th, 2026 at 8:37:31 PM
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Quote: DieterQuote: ChumpChangePretty sure the VLT's are Class II,
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(snip)My medical team specialist thinks y'all may be trying to spike my blood pressure in hopes of seeing that vein throb on the side of my head. Her message for anyone doing so is (and I quote) "😡".
VLT's are operated under state lottery authority.
Class II is never, ever under state lottery authority - always tribal authority.
Now, they may have to (or want to) replace the VLT's with "regular" (Nevada type) gaming machines when the licensing changes, but they aren't going Class III unless a federally recognized tribe manages to turn Aqueduct into a reservation, negotiate a gaming compact, and take over.
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also ... someone correct me if im wrong but the underlying technology to class two is always bingo
and vlt... is just yeah its a slot machine but its most likely mimics a lottery system but with dyncamic skins
April 20th, 2026 at 10:15:57 PM
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Quote: heatmapQuote: DieterQuote: ChumpChangePretty sure the VLT's are Class II,
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(snip)My medical team specialist thinks y'all may be trying to spike my blood pressure in hopes of seeing that vein throb on the side of my head. Her message for anyone doing so is (and I quote) "😡".
VLT's are operated under state lottery authority.
Class II is never, ever under state lottery authority - always tribal authority.
Now, they may have to (or want to) replace the VLT's with "regular" (Nevada type) gaming machines when the licensing changes, but they aren't going Class III unless a federally recognized tribe manages to turn Aqueduct into a reservation, negotiate a gaming compact, and take over.
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also ... someone correct me if im wrong but the underlying technology to class two is always bingo
and vlt... is just yeah its a slot machine but its most likely mimics a lottery system but with dyncamic skins
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Correct it's not a bingo system.
Every wager goes to the central computer in Albany where the winners and losers are determined by lottery. The way I understand it (and I could be off) is the lottery has a computer that digitally creates lottery tickets (video lottery tickets for lack of a better term) and the wagers arrive and are randomly assigned a ticket in the same way you randomly pick a paper scratch off at the store. A certain number of winners are generated to make certain of the 90% state mandated return. Like all lottery tickets some have break even winners, some have wins that are less than the purchase and occasionally you get a real nice win represented by a bonus round or jackpot win. For this reason any choices (pick mystery symbols to see what you won) are always predetermined already based on your lottery win.
Wagers that get lucky and win anything are then Transmitted back to the casino slot machine where depending on the amount won, the corresponding symbols spin into place.
They also have blackjack and poker but they operate the same way. Your choices are worthless. For example if you have a 20 and it's predetermined you won the hand, you can hit and will be dealt an Ace.
I should point out it's milliseconds for the signal to travel however with e-games (which also go to the lotto central computer) must wait for the physical outcome of the ball, dice etc. This leaves a lag time that is measurable from the outcome of say, the ball landing in the winning pocket and the signal making it's way to Albany and back. I took advantage of that early in my AP career by pulling the players card once I knew who the winner was. Resorts World rewarded winners with more Freeplay so every time the ball landed on a losing color, pull the card. Every time it landed on a winning color leave it in. Show a win of several thousand and you had a really nice calendar.
You had to be quick though and keep track of the amount being won. BTW, you could tell if you didn't pull the card in time by also keeping track of the points. If the points didn't register then you successfully pulled the card.
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For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 21st, 2026 at 12:07:32 AM
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Well I will be the first to say my hot take was wrong.
https://nypost.com/2026/04/20/us-news/time-to-deal-first-nyc-casino-with-live-table-games-opens-april-28/
https://nypost.com/2026/04/20/us-news/time-to-deal-first-nyc-casino-with-live-table-games-opens-april-28/
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 21st, 2026 at 12:50:14 AM
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Quote: heatmapQuote: DieterQuote: ChumpChangePretty sure the VLT's are Class II,
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(snip)My medical team specialist thinks y'all may be trying to spike my blood pressure in hopes of seeing that vein throb on the side of my head. Her message for anyone doing so is (and I quote) "😡".
VLT's are operated under state lottery authority.
Class II is never, ever under state lottery authority - always tribal authority.
Now, they may have to (or want to) replace the VLT's with "regular" (Nevada type) gaming machines when the licensing changes, but they aren't going Class III unless a federally recognized tribe manages to turn Aqueduct into a reservation, negotiate a gaming compact, and take over.
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also ... someone correct me if im wrong but the underlying technology to class two is always bingo
and vlt... is just yeah its a slot machine but its most likely mimics a lottery system but with dyncamic skins
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It has been a long while since I read the Class II rules, but I don't think the only way to get there was bingo. Bingo is probably what they had in mind when writing the rules, and it is easy to be rule compliant with bingo.
The essential point - which I may be misremembering - is that the game is player vs player pool, not player vs house. The house can take a rake for their services.
The advantage that Class II may offer is that it does not require a gaming compact between the tribe and the state, so there may not be a revenue sharing agreement. Gaming compacts (treaties) are (generally) required for Class III operations, which allow more types of games, but often mean the state takes a cut and can impose limits (table count, player seats per table, number of machines, minimum/maximum machine RTP, etc).
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 21st, 2026 at 1:05:21 AM
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So if I'm the only player at a small 100 slot Bingo Ball slot casino, I'm just playing against myself and will only win back what I put in minus a vig?
April 21st, 2026 at 5:35:24 AM
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Quote: ChumpChangeSo if I'm the only player at a small 100 slot Bingo Ball slot casino, I'm just playing against myself and will only win back what I put in minus a vig?
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Has game quorum been satisfied?
What is the game prize structure?
First, at off hours on bingo slots, it is not uncommon to hit the button, the reels animate, and a small message appears "Waiting for quorum". After about 10 seconds, a message like "Game cancelled, quorum not met" appears, your bet is refunded, and the reels are stopped in their prior position.
Second, the prize pool often accumulates game to game. The prizes awarded (game result) are often determined by the game pattern, unlike in more traditional bingo where "this game is for $50".
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 21st, 2026 at 8:36:45 AM
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The NYS lottery is in Schenectady, not Albany.
Bingo is based on a quorum of two in most cases. The winner gets a prize of $0.01 regardless of the bet. Players also get "consolation" or "bonus" prizes based on matched patterns. This can be patterns themselves or the numbers in the patterns. LNW uses lines (horizontal, then diagonal, then vertical, I think) and takes the product of the numbers in the first winning line to determine the prize.
However, some bingo, like AGS, does not use a quorum system. In their system, you get 28 balls and you win the first pattern you match. If you get all 25 spots on the card (p = very small number), you do not win the top prize guaranteed. You win whatever pattern you covered first. If it is the top prize, you get that. if you matched the bottomest prize first, you get that.
In any case, the number of players is irrelevant. Where quora are required, you are competing for pennies. Where you are playing by your lonesome, the other players do not matter.
Bingo is based on a quorum of two in most cases. The winner gets a prize of $0.01 regardless of the bet. Players also get "consolation" or "bonus" prizes based on matched patterns. This can be patterns themselves or the numbers in the patterns. LNW uses lines (horizontal, then diagonal, then vertical, I think) and takes the product of the numbers in the first winning line to determine the prize.
However, some bingo, like AGS, does not use a quorum system. In their system, you get 28 balls and you win the first pattern you match. If you get all 25 spots on the card (p = very small number), you do not win the top prize guaranteed. You win whatever pattern you covered first. If it is the top prize, you get that. if you matched the bottomest prize first, you get that.
In any case, the number of players is irrelevant. Where quora are required, you are competing for pennies. Where you are playing by your lonesome, the other players do not matter.
April 21st, 2026 at 3:10:03 PM
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"Resorts World New York City (RWNYC) is set to officially open the Big Apple's first ever live table games on Tuesday, April 28,"
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/resorts-world-new-york-city-set-to-officially-open-nycs-first-table-games-casino-on-april-28--follows-massive-job-creation-operation-that-has-already-doubled-employment-with-over-2-200-jobs-on-day-one-at-the-citys-hottest-new-e-302748986.html
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/resorts-world-new-york-city-set-to-officially-open-nycs-first-table-games-casino-on-april-28--follows-massive-job-creation-operation-that-has-already-doubled-employment-with-over-2-200-jobs-on-day-one-at-the-citys-hottest-new-e-302748986.html
April 21st, 2026 at 6:45:02 PM
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I am faster than the news ;)
I would like to go when it opens to see what’s up even though I can’t gamble there… I will report my findings in this thread
I would like to go when it opens to see what’s up even though I can’t gamble there… I will report my findings in this thread
April 21st, 2026 at 7:56:51 PM
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Quote: harrisI am faster than the news ;)
I would like to go when it opens to see what’s up even though I can’t gamble there… I will report my findings in this thread
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Who says you can't? You went to college, right? Where's your fake ID?
April 21st, 2026 at 8:26:50 PM
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I work for a gambling company that works with Resorts World and I don’t feel like risking my job over a chance to win a little money
April 22nd, 2026 at 5:49:39 AM
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Quote: harrisI work for a gambling company that works with Resorts World and I don’t feel like risking my job over a chance to win a little money
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Honestly unless they are doing some relaxed rules like roulette pays 36:1 it's just gonna be like any other casino.
The only game that might be more than some places is the field bet pays triple on the 12 and sic bo triples pay 31:1 and 12:1 on the singles. And that's only because the electronic versions have those better payouts already.
However that is not true at resorts world Catskills. The odds are really bad. Actually lower pays than normal so who knows.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 22nd, 2026 at 6:11:15 AM
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Is there any casino in which roulette numbers pay 36:1?
(If there is please let me know, I assume it would be on double or triple zero)
I don't care if the odds on Sic Bo triples are very slightly worse (not that I have seen Sic Bo actually being played at any American casino), it is the closest casino to me by far (I live in Queens).
(If there is please let me know, I assume it would be on double or triple zero)
I don't care if the odds on Sic Bo triples are very slightly worse (not that I have seen Sic Bo actually being played at any American casino), it is the closest casino to me by far (I live in Queens).
April 22nd, 2026 at 4:55:34 PM
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I’d like to patronize it on April 29.
April 23rd, 2026 at 2:32:54 PM
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This is what it would be like if we all went together
April 23rd, 2026 at 3:14:06 PM
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Quote: harrisIs there any casino in which roulette numbers pay 36:1?
(If there is please let me know, I assume it would be on double or triple zero)
I don't care if the odds on Sic Bo triples are very slightly worse (not that I have seen Sic Bo actually being played at any American casino), it is the closest casino to me by far (I live in Queens).
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Pig Wheel pays 39 to 1.
If you haven't looked into it, it's worse than you think.
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 23rd, 2026 at 3:36:51 PM
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Just read the Pig Wheel website:
Does anyone know if it’s still in use?
And the website mentions other “North Dakota games” like “21”, does anyone have information about these “charitable gambling games”
Does anyone know if it’s still in use?
And the website mentions other “North Dakota games” like “21”, does anyone have information about these “charitable gambling games”
April 25th, 2026 at 6:46:13 PM
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I have a little more insight that I have found about the blackjack there:
There will be 3:2 blackjack, H17 and S17, with surrender
Two side bets that you can find there will be 21+3 Extreme and Lucky Ladies
Minimums as low as $15
There will be 3:2 blackjack, H17 and S17, with surrender
Two side bets that you can find there will be 21+3 Extreme and Lucky Ladies
Minimums as low as $15
April 25th, 2026 at 7:04:11 PM
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More insight:
There will be Let It Ride
There will NOT BE Crapless Craps
EZ Baccarat will have a $25 minimum
Normal Baccarat will have a $50 minimum
There will be 13 Craps tables [minimum unknown]
There will be Let It Ride
There will NOT BE Crapless Craps
EZ Baccarat will have a $25 minimum
Normal Baccarat will have a $50 minimum
There will be 13 Craps tables [minimum unknown]
April 25th, 2026 at 8:14:11 PM
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Quote: harrisMore insight:
There will be Let It Ride
There will NOT BE Crapless Craps
EZ Baccarat will have a $25 minimum
Normal Baccarat will have a $50 minimum
There will be 13 Craps tables [minimum unknown]
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Any uth?
And interesting that ez bacc has lower min given that's it has a slightly lower HE than regular bacc
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 25th, 2026 at 8:23:15 PM
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I also find it interesting - might just have to do with commission slowing the game down?
I assume there will be Three Card Poker and UTH though I don’t actually have confirmation on that
I assume there will be Three Card Poker and UTH though I don’t actually have confirmation on that
April 25th, 2026 at 9:43:21 PM
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New report which I believe to be completely accurate:
The Dragon Bonus side bet will be present on at least some of the Baccarat tables.
There will be Three Card Poker and UTH as I guessed.
There will also be Crazy 4 Poker and Mississippi Stud.
There are more games that the ones I mentioned, I just don't know them all yet.
Unfortunately, my previous source that indicated that there would be Spanish 21 was probably mistaken.
The Dragon Bonus side bet will be present on at least some of the Baccarat tables.
There will be Three Card Poker and UTH as I guessed.
There will also be Crazy 4 Poker and Mississippi Stud.
There are more games that the ones I mentioned, I just don't know them all yet.
Unfortunately, my previous source that indicated that there would be Spanish 21 was probably mistaken.
April 26th, 2026 at 12:33:25 AM
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Quote: harrisNew report which I believe to be completely accurate:
The Dragon Bonus side bet will be present on at least some of the Baccarat tables.
There will be Three Card Poker and UTH as I guessed.
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uth: What's the boat/flush payouts?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 26th, 2026 at 2:06:56 AM
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Is this accurate based on your information? They expect to have 1,300 tables?
https://rwnewyork.com/new-york-casino/table-games/
https://rwnewyork.com/new-york-casino/table-games/
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have moisturized more.
April 26th, 2026 at 5:51:58 AM
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Quote: BigSlickIs this accurate based on your information? They expect to have 1,300 tables?
https://rwnewyork.com/new-york-casino/table-games/
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It's possible. They always planned to put the live games in on the third floor. When they first opened in 2012 they believed they would somehow finagle the right to do it and a host showed me the third floor. Totally empty but massive. I'd estimate it was about the length of the Borgata only empty.
They added slots a few years later but now they finally have the license to do tables I'm sure they emptied the floor again and are filling it with table games.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 26th, 2026 at 8:12:25 AM
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The 1,300 figure is about ETGs that they have right now
Idk the UTH payout tables but I’m probably gonna go to the Tuesday morning opening. Let me know if you have other specific questions that I can investigate
Idk the UTH payout tables but I’m probably gonna go to the Tuesday morning opening. Let me know if you have other specific questions that I can investigate
