I enjoyed Hard Eight as an entertaining movie. The only thing I could not wrap my head around was that that Phillip Baker Hall played a smart gambler yet he played Keno. Of all the games to have him play, Keno. rediculous. Worst game in a casino. Obviously the writers could care less about odds.
Quote: terapinedI enjoyed Hard Eight as an entertaining movie. The only thing I could not wrap my head around was that that Phillip Baker Hall played a smart gambler yet he played Keno. Of all the games to have him play, Keno. rediculous. Worst game in a casino. Obviously the writers could care less about odds.
Quote: wikipedia'willing suspension of disbelief' is a term coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Betting the Hard 8 for big money might be worse, but Sydney is also heard to say the bet is a stupid one. Keno for small amounts is cheap per hour for a negative expectation game [it has never appealed to me].
These guys were supposed to be APs I think, they didnt seem to be hustling. To suspend my own disbelief, in order to enjoy the movie anyway, I had to blow both things off as anomalies and tell myself they were doing something unshown to make money.
such a awesome movie of the year 2011...
thanks,
The Hangover
The Sting
The Gambler
Two for the money
Hustler... I remember the Thumbs scene and the double door being opened promptly at 8:00 for the arrival of Minnesota Fats. I remember that there was a Piper Laurie and she killed herself but I don't seem to ever remember either one of them as a part of the movie for some reason. Been a long, long time.
The betting is an allegory for his interaction with John and Clementine. He knows it is a long shot bet, with bad odds and a high payout if it hits. Just like he knows investing his time and emotion in the losers is probably going to turn out bad, but if it is successful it pays off big time.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0013086/
A MUST see. Just great !!!
WASHOO2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiU194m5qbs
Quote: WatchMeWinThe Runner - My buddy just told me about this movie. Looks pretty good. I can't believe I never heard of it. Doesnt look like anyone has discussed it on the thread either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiU194m5qbs
Weird... I've never heard of that movie, either. Probably didn't help the main actor is a nobody. But it also had Courtney Cox in pretty much the peak of her career, so who knows why it's so obscure. Wonder if it just went straight to video...
Ya, sure.Quote: WatchMeWinMy buddy
I haven't mentioned it on this thread because it wouldn't fit into a FAVORITE GAMBLING MOVIE category, but I have mentioned it on a few other threads a number of times.
I can't say that's it's a good movie, but it had a good BJ sense. Mainly because of the superstitions surrounding female Asian dealers and a desperate bet(You just have to see it to understand)
Even Hard 8 was not all that good of a movie, but it had some good stuff in it, especially the comp hustling via churning over coins( I laughed when I saw that part since I used to earn comps doing that when I first started out.)
Quote: GreasyjohnSeven Thieves, 1960. Great cast, quintessential casino heist movie.
STOP IT ALREADY PLEASE
JUST BROUGHT ANOTHER BLURAY BECAUSE OF YOU!!!
SEVEN THIEVES.
THERE HAPPY
I HAVE A BLURAY ADDICTION AND YOU GUYS ARE NOT HELPING
Quote: GreasyjohnFive Against The House, 1955
Oh really huh? Its like that?
Well i got that one so too late
Quote: SiegfriedRoyVegas Vacation. Gotta love Papagiorgio
What's funny about that movie is he goes into that scam casino where they're playing War, and it's supposed to be a joke, but they actually play that for real in big casinos now.
In a few more years you'll be able to walk into Caesar's and play Rock Paper Scissors or Guess What Number I'm Thinking Of.
Quote: GWAEI just watched Think Like a Man. I thought it was a decent movie. I would not have liked it in a theater but sitting on the couch watching it for free was ok.
That was a gambling movie? I thought it was Steve Harvey rom-com?
Quote: aceofspadesThat was a gambling movie? I thought it was Steve Harvey rom-com?
I guess it is not really a gambling movie but there was a bunch of gambling in it it was more of a Vegas movie
Quote: GreasyjohnFive Against The House, 1955
I believe that 5 Against the House was the earliest casino heist movie ever made. I've never seen it but it supposedly has some footage they shot of Reno and Vegas circa 1954. I'd love to see it.
Quote: gordonm888I believe that 5 Against the House was the earliest casino heist movie ever made. I've never seen it but it supposedly has some footage they shot of Reno and Vegas circa 1954. I'd love to see it.
you can watch it free at this link:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yeyir
Quote: lilredroosterdidn't know about this one until just now. liked the trailer. got 4 stars on Amazon. will watch it soon.
Just downloaded this from Netflix for plane. Hope its good
Quote: GWAEQuote: lilredroosterdidn't know about this one until just now. liked the trailer. got 4 stars on Amazon. will watch it soon.
Just downloaded this from Netflix for plane. Hope its good
The Hangover while not quite a gambling movie is definitely a Vegas movie
I believe it's an underrated movie and it's one of my favorites
David Mamet's directorial debut
I can only give Casino the #2 spot. All that stuff with Sharon Stone just turns me off and takes away from it but it does have the best single scene in any gambling movie: Two cheaters, a cattle prod, and a hammer. "You can have the money and the hammer, or you can get out but you can't have both." :-)
Taken as a whole, I've always liked The Cooler. I'm a tad surprised that nobody has mentioned it.
turner classic movies Saturday june first 340pm.Quote: gordonm888Not a gambling movie - but I am in the middle of watching the Misfits (1961) which is set in Reno.
It was very good, though slow in spots.
Paul Neuman's Fast Eddy is one of the most despicable protagonists I can think of. Not that it makes it a bad film. You can make a good movie about jerks. But it's a bit odd, in that Minnesota Fats is the good guy IMO. Neuman is an arrogant drunkard. Abuses his girl. Stabs his long time partner in the back. Seems completely empty inside.
One scene that stands out is the first match. Neuman is doing well and clearly has more ability than Fats. After something like 20 hours of play though, Neuman is drunk and disoriented. Fats has held his liquor. Fats takes a short break. Washes himself up and regroups. Then he wins back all that he lost and takes most of Neuman's roll. It was a really great demonstration of what it means to be a professional.
Quote: RigondeauxI watched the Hustler for the first time in like 25 years (damn I'm old).
It was very good, though slow in spots.
Paul Neuman's Fast Eddy is one of the most despicable protagonists I can think of. Not that it makes it a bad film. You can make a good movie about jerks. But it's a bit odd, in that Minnesota Fats is the good guy IMO. Neuman is an arrogant drunkard. Abuses his girl. Stabs his long time partner in the back. Seems completely empty inside.
One scene that stands out is the first match. Neuman is doing well and clearly has more ability than Fats. After something like 20 hours of play though, Neuman is drunk and disoriented. Fats has held his liquor. Fats takes a short break. Washes himself up and regroups. Then he wins back all that he lost and takes most of Neuman's roll. It was a really great demonstration of what it means to be a professional.
Love this opening scene narration from part 2 "The color of Money"
Quote: RigondeauxI watched the Hustler for the first time in like 25 years (damn I'm old).
It was very good, though slow in spots.
Paul Neuman's Fast Eddy is one of the most despicable protagonists I can think of. Not that it makes it a bad film. You can make a good movie about jerks. But it's a bit odd, in that Minnesota Fats is the good guy IMO. Neuman is an arrogant drunkard. Abuses his girl. Stabs his long time partner in the back. Seems completely empty inside.
One scene that stands out is the first match. Neuman is doing well and clearly has more ability than Fats. After something like 20 hours of play though, Neuman is drunk and disoriented. Fats has held his liquor. Fats takes a short break. Washes himself up and regroups. Then he wins back all that he lost and takes most of Neuman's roll. It was a really great demonstration of what it means to be a professional.
I think that was the point. To show a character who is immoral, willing to hustle people out of their money.
Quote: darkozI think that was the point. To show a character who is immoral, willing to hustle people out of their money.
Yeah, but he's a pretty big scumbag all around.
However, this made me think of the first scene. In that scene they are hustling a local pool hall. The entire hustle depends upon someone trying to take advantage of him when he is drunk out of his senses and bleeding money.
Anybody who felt uncomfortable taking a large amount of money from a drunk guy who didn't know what he was doing would be un-hustle-able in that scam.
I think this was probably a deliberate, ethical decision. Like Omar robbing drug dealers. Or why APs feel comfortable beating up predatory casinos. You have to decide to play dirty against him, then he pounds you.
Maybe this was the influence of his partner/father figure, who he later discarded.
I'd kind of like to read the book.
And the scene in Hard eight where he is teaching the kid hoe to get "free" rooms and comps at the casino.
I seen it after I started doing that for free food. I didn't play at all and didn't care about any free rooms. I didn't really care about the free food either I just did it because it was kinda fun.
If to choose from more modern ones I love '21', 'Mississippi Grand'.
Hard Eight? Professional hitman, but not really a professional gambler.
'21' ... Too "Hollywooded"
Quote: RigondeauxI watched the Hustler for the first time in like 25 years (damn I'm old).
It was very good, though slow in spots.
Paul Neuman's Fast Eddy is one of the most despicable protagonists I can think of. Not that it makes it a bad film. You can make a good movie about jerks. But it's a bit odd, in that Minnesota Fats is the good guy IMO. Neuman is an arrogant drunkard. Abuses his girl. Stabs his long time partner in the back. Seems completely empty inside.
One scene that stands out is the first match. Neuman is doing well and clearly has more ability than Fats. After something like 20 hours of play though, Neuman is drunk and disoriented. Fats has held his liquor. Fats takes a short break. Washes himself up and regroups. Then he wins back all that he lost and takes most of Neuman's roll. It was a really great demonstration of what it means to be a professional.
I have a couple of friends that hang out at my local bar that will play pool for over 24 hours straight regularly. They are decent players but they both drink the whole time. Recently I walked into the bar on a Sunday morning and they were still there from Friday night. Both were sloshed beyond belief and one of them had stripped down to his boxer shorts and was still playing.
Quote: FleaStiffBoth Minnesota Fats and Fast Eddie were professionals. One just had class that's all.
Hard Eight? Professional hitman, but not really a professional gambler.
I laughed when the sharp was playing keno
Quote: FleaStiff
'21' ... Too "Hollywooded"
Yea, the BJ teams were mostly Asian in reality
I also watched that Inside the Edge documentary. Kind of interesting to see that life, and all the hidden camera footage he got.
Quote: gordonm888"5-card Draw, Jacks or Better" is a boring game in real life
Jacks or better, yeah. That's a stupid rule. But I've always thought 5 card draw in general was a much faster and more exciting game than the snoozefest that is Texas hold 'em.
Quote: TigerWuI started watching Hard Eight. Couldn't even finish it. Just a bad 90's movie. Does it get any better after
they handcuff that john in the hotel room and beat him up?
I also watched that Inside the Edge documentary. Kind of interesting to see that life, and all the hidden camera footage he got.
I liked it enough, but i’m not thinking about watching it again. It isn’t really a gambling movie. Gambling is the setting, but the movie is about the people, and the people are all pretty hard to like.
Quote: TigerWuJacks or better, yeah. That's a stupid rule. But I've always thought 5 card draw in general was a much faster and more exciting game than the snoozefest that is Texas hold 'em.
In episodes of M*A*S*H, they would call "Jacks or better" in their poker games. Electronic Arts' "Power Poker" for Windows 95 has that game, so I played it with the show in mind—and it's numbingly dull. Most hands fold, and when there's action either everyone folds to the first person to bet or it's a crapshoot to see who has the better hand.
I would watch a soap commercial if it featured Ann Margaret or Tuesday Weld.Quote: gordonm888Ann Margaret, Tuesday Weld and lots of great character actors.
I think Steve Mcqueen's best role was in Ibsen's Enemy of the People. The action took place in a locale and time wherein all men wore full beards so many viewers never recognized Steve McQueen as the star.