ukaserex
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January 13th, 2016 at 6:15:02 AM permalink
I think a lot of us in the US forget how cities like yours depend on Oil/Energy industry for jobs. While the rest of us are driving more, saving more - a lot of your neighbors are really suffering.

It's strange to me - and it reveals how very little I understood about the oil industry. I always thought they kept raising the price because they were greedy; when the price started going down - it was something I'd only seen once before and that was short-lived. It's an eye-opener. I just hope a lot of your neighbors were saving their money while they were making it when gas was a heinous $4.00+. (I say this, knowing full well that Gas in Europe sells for much, much more. Like $5 per liter, which is about the size of a quart. So, in a way, we've always been quite fortunate in that respect.)
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January 13th, 2016 at 6:37:06 AM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

...Gas in Europe sells for much, much more...

In the UK it is just getting back close to £1 ($1.50) per litre (here petrol has usually been cheaper than diesel). There's a graph of recent prices at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35217383 suggesting it topped out at about £1.40.

When I travel to the continent diesel (and petrol) seems even cheaper in France, Belgium etc. and apparently Luxembourg is the cheapest - although http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/ suggest Andorra and parts of Africa are even cheaper.

In fact (I didn't realise this) we have the most expensive diesel in Europe (yes I drive a diesel car!)
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January 20th, 2016 at 6:21:17 AM permalink
Gas prices are dropping like a rock
Now that the Obama admin has successfully negotiated with Iran and sanctions lifted
Iran is going to dump lots of oil onto the market to lower prices even more :-)
Thanks Obama :-)
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January 20th, 2016 at 7:15:23 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Gas prices are dropping like a rock
Now that the Obama admin has successfully negotiated with Iran and sanctions lifted
Iran is going to dump lots of oil onto the market to lower prices even more :-)
Thanks Obama :-)



A bbl of oil is trading at 25% of what it was in summer of 2014 $108...recent trades today under $27.50 bbl

not sure how much lower it can go without shutting down the North American Oilpatch....company I worked for is trading at 65 cents a share down from $18 just 20 months ago.... they likely will be out of business soon or swallowed up by somebody else...currently trying to sell off the US pumping operations to get some cash to stay afloat.

Price war in Michigan the other day saw 47 cent a GALLON gas ....for a few hours at least

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-gas-station-hits-47-cents-price-war/story?id=36358859
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January 20th, 2016 at 7:22:00 AM permalink
I'm confused. Back when oil prices went up at a fast rate, the economy suffered. Since the cost of energy is embedded in everything (manufacturing, transportation, etc.), we were told, prices must go up, even though no value was added to the end product. OK, I can understand that.

Now, oil prices are plummeting, and they are saying that the economy is bad because the price of oil is too low. Huh? Are they just making this stuff up as they go along?

OT, just saw $1.669/gal here in NE FL. Filled up @ $1.539 in Biloxi over the weekend.

Edit -- I was replying to Terapind's post. I didn't see Coilman's. I completely understand that the North American oil industry will suffer with oil prices as low as they are. It just seems like other industries should do better with lower fuel prices.
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January 20th, 2016 at 9:11:41 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

A bbl of oil is trading at 25% of what it was in summer of 2014 $108...recent trades today under $27.50 bbl

not sure how much lower it can go without shutting down the North American Oilpatch....company I worked for is trading at 65 cents a share down from $18 just 20 months ago.... they likely will be out of business soon or swallowed up by somebody else...currently trying to sell off the US pumping operations to get some cash to stay afloat.

Price war in Michigan the other day saw 47 cent a GALLON gas ....for a few hours at least

http://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-gas-station-hits-47-cents-price-war/story?id=36358859


Mid $1.40s in the Detroit area.

Side note: Obama just arrived to visit the NAIAS at Cobo in downtown, so roads in the area including I-94 from Romulus to downtown will be blocked off for a while.
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January 20th, 2016 at 9:43:28 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I'm confused. Back when oil prices went up at a fast rate, the economy suffered. Since the cost of energy is embedded in everything (manufacturing, transportation, etc.), we were told, prices must go up, even though no value was added to the end product. OK, I can understand that.

Now, oil prices are plummeting, and they are saying that the economy is bad because the price of oil is too low. Huh? Are they just making this stuff up as they go along?

Edit -- I was replying to Terapind's post. I didn't see Coilman's. I completely understand that the North American oil industry will suffer with oil prices as low as they are. It just seems like other industries should do better with lower fuel prices.



I was about to type the exact same post. Can someone explain to me why, say, Mattel, isn't skyrocketting? Joe Blow has an extra $20 a week in his pocket, and its cheaper for him to drive to the store to buy that Barbie. Why isn't Walmart skyrocketting? Its costing them $100,000,000 less in fuel to move those big trucks around the country, and John Public has an extra Hamilton to spend there as well. Other than the specific industries that find oil or natural gas, all values should be increasing.
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January 20th, 2016 at 10:51:51 AM permalink
I find it odd that when gas prices are at $3.50 - $4.00, many people constantly whine and complain they cannot afford anything because gas is consuming their entire budget.

Today, these people should have so much extra money that they'd light victory cigars with $100 bills, and enjoy a steady diet of hookers and blow.
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January 20th, 2016 at 11:48:59 AM permalink
Quote: HowMany

I find it odd that when gas prices are at $3.50 - $4.00, many people constantly whine and complain they cannot afford anything because gas is consuming their entire budget.

Today, these people should have so much extra money that they'd light victory cigars with $100 bills, and enjoy a steady diet of hookers and blow.



Instead those same people will find something else to complain about. Some people are just never happy.

In Tampa/Orlando I saw gas for $1.79

Driving south it went to $1.99

In the everglades it was $2.79 YIKES, I had 80 miles to empty and 41 miles to Miami, I took my chances. Obviously I made it or I would have been crying about that already.

Miami was $2.09 and Fort Lauderdale was back to $1.99 which is where I filled up.

Got back home and it is $2.04
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January 20th, 2016 at 12:29:39 PM permalink
Just passed a place that is $1.42.
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January 20th, 2016 at 12:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

I'm confused. Back when oil prices went up at a fast rate, the economy suffered. Since the cost of energy is embedded in everything (manufacturing, transportation, etc.), we were told, prices must go up, even though no value was added to the end product. OK, I can understand that.

Now, oil prices are plummeting, and they are saying that the economy is bad because the price of oil is too low. Huh? Are they just making this stuff up as they go along?.

Essentially, yes. Economists are dumb scientists. They underestimated the size of the domestic production industry. It essentially WAS the recovery from the 2008 crash. They employed tons of people who made a ton of money and spent tons of that money.

The low prices should have helped manufacturing and consumer spending, but it basically didn't. The strong dollar and weak China demand offset it as well.

Airline and car industries are doing incredibly.
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January 20th, 2016 at 2:28:34 PM permalink
The Member price @ Sam's Club in ABQ is $1.59.9 per gallon of Winter Blend Regular today.
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January 23rd, 2016 at 11:59:25 AM permalink
$1.33 all over the Metro Detroit area .... that has to be a ERROR on the price listed at Sunoco

http://www.detroitgasprices.com/
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February 5th, 2016 at 7:03:19 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

$1.33 all over the Metro Detroit area .... that has to be a ERROR on the price listed at Sunoco

http://www.detroitgasprices.com/


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February 5th, 2016 at 8:37:48 AM permalink
I finally saw a place in Vegas, Sams Club, that fell below $2. It was $1.99 at Sams Club.

I was in Texas this week and saw $1.29
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February 5th, 2016 at 10:11:58 AM permalink
North of San Francisco, it's "down" to $2.49. Of course, part of that is because of what has to be done to the fuel because of California emission laws.
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February 5th, 2016 at 10:35:20 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

North of San Francisco, it's "down" to $2.49. Of course, part of that is because of what has to be done to the fuel because of California emission laws.

You should leave California before it falls into the ocean, or worse. Oceanfront property is for sale in Arizona. Gas in GA holding round $1.65, less your $0.10 discount of course...
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February 5th, 2016 at 11:34:36 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I finally saw a place in Vegas, Sams Club, that fell below $2. It was $1.99 at Sams Club.

I was in Texas this week and saw $1.29



couple places around Detroit are $1.27 today

http://www.detroitgasprices.com/

SOUTH of Detroit in Windsor 87 cents a litre seems average 3.8 L to 1 US gallon ....taxes are killing us here
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:21:55 PM permalink
It is to dam low if it is below $4/ gallon in my opinion. Just my thought from the oil patch.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:51:48 PM permalink
First time below $2 in Buffalo, now I see $1.97.
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February 17th, 2016 at 6:17:32 PM permalink
The Member price @ Sam's Club in ABQ is $1.35.9 per gallon of Winter Blend Regular today.

Under $25 to fill the Landcruiser today!
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February 17th, 2016 at 8:39:03 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

North of San Francisco, it's "down" to $2.49. Of course, part of that is because of what has to be done to the fuel because of California emission laws.


$2.20 today. Well, $2.20 if you're paying cash; $2.30 with credit.
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February 17th, 2016 at 8:41:55 PM permalink
Went from $1.27 two weeks ago to $1.74 late last week down to $1.44 yesterday.
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February 18th, 2016 at 1:10:07 AM permalink
Mon it was 1.44, today it was 1.75. What the frick..
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February 18th, 2016 at 4:05:48 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Mon it was 1.44, today it was 1.75. What the frick..



SEEMS the opec fellas might be slowing down the flow to agreed upon amounts...price of oil is up $5 a bbl in the past 5 days

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/crude%20oil%20-%20electronic
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February 18th, 2016 at 4:07:03 AM permalink
Wholesale price is $0.88 on the Gulf Coast.

Retail prices locally are as low as $1.32 right now.

Lots of people losing jobs around Houston and all of the oil patch areas; luckily, Houston has become more diversified in types of businesses here and it is not as bad here as in the actual producing areas.
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February 18th, 2016 at 4:57:55 AM permalink
Generally $1.79 in Central OH...and expecting it to go higher as refineries shut down to prepare for production of "environmentally friendly" summer blends...
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February 18th, 2016 at 5:23:44 AM permalink
Gas was $1.589 when I filled up the truck (32+ gal.) two nights ago. I bought the truck in 2007, and I can't remember ever paying so little to fill it up (around $50).

Drove by the same station last night and it was $1.699!
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March 17th, 2016 at 1:01:51 AM permalink
Well that was short-lived gas made it down to 189 for about a week and now it's up to 2:09
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March 17th, 2016 at 6:01:35 AM permalink
A week ago I gassed up my van and the price was $2.09 - now it's $2.29. If that scenario continues it won't be long before it's back up to 3 dollars or more a gallon.
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March 17th, 2016 at 11:01:20 AM permalink
Oil has went up from $25 a barrel to $40 a barrel in the last few weeks. Expect gas to continue rising in price.
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March 17th, 2016 at 11:58:12 AM permalink
It could be worse. You could live in California...

(If there ever was an argument to get an electric car...)
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March 17th, 2016 at 1:31:28 PM permalink
Even worse than living in California - image the prices of Gas/Oil in Alaska --- ??
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March 17th, 2016 at 3:40:03 PM permalink
Quote: HeySlick

Even worse than living in California - image the prices of Gas/Oil in Alaska --- ??



Gas in Anchorage Alaska is cheaper than in Las Vegas.
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March 17th, 2016 at 3:44:09 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

It could be worse. You could live in California...

(If there ever was an argument to get an electric car...)


$2.49/gallon in Southern California today for regular unleaded...but electricity isn't cheap here either, so you need to go the electric car/home solar panel combo pack...that will cost you a pretty penny...and you'll have range anxiety going to Vegas!!

I would just get a car that is rated 35+ MPG if you drive a lot. My "commute" is 3.5 miles each way so the cost of gasoline isn't a huge impact on my life one way or the other.

And it has been in the mid 70's all week...so there is that :-)!
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March 30th, 2016 at 9:53:25 AM permalink
Back up over $2.00 in most places in the Detroit area.
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March 30th, 2016 at 10:00:18 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Back up over $2.00 in most places in the Detroit area.




http://www.detroitgasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx
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March 30th, 2016 at 10:11:02 AM permalink
I should have done the 'whole country tour' when it was below $1.50. I tried to tell Sparkles, she wouldn't listen. So many offers, so many places (sigh). The price of gas would not have been the 'critical deciding factor' on that trip, prolly. I didn't get to go ;-(
She is smarter than I am.....
The good news is I'm headed for Destin/Ft Walton (kids Spring break), I get to go out fishing AT LEAST one day. Salivating now...

<edit> is there a Gamblin' boat out of Pensacola, or do I just spend the whole night(s) on the pier in Ft Walton?
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March 30th, 2016 at 12:59:31 PM permalink
Quote: TwoFeathersATL

The good news is I'm headed for Destin/Ft Walton (kids Spring break), I get to go out fishing AT LEAST one day. Salivating now...

Have fun on your trip to the Redneck Riviera, 2F!

Quote:

Is there a Gamblin' boat out of Pensacola, or do I just spend the whole night(s) on the pier in Ft Walton?

No boat that I know of, but it's only 2 1/2 hrs to Biloxi...

OT, filled up for $1.979 yesterday.
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October 30th, 2016 at 11:34:51 AM permalink
As of this week cheapest gas in Los Angeles is about $2.49 a gallon verses $2.33 in Las Vegas (which always seems to be cheaper).
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October 30th, 2016 at 11:51:53 AM permalink
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Was over there on 8 mile road yesterday( returning a rack and pinion core for the $32 deposit) that $32 covered just over half of my tank fill (29 gallons at $1.99) ..... $58 US which is $80 Canadian.... to buy that same amount of gas here in Windsor today would have cost $115.71 Canadian yes $36 cheaper just a half mile across the river

BTW....when did they put a Meijer inside the city of Detroit>? Is that the only major grocery store located inside the city of Detroit ? <<<<things are looking up

http://www.detroitgasprices.com/map_gas_prices.aspx?z=11&lat=42.495651&long=-82.936628&sid=21322&ft=A
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October 30th, 2016 at 12:23:38 PM permalink
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BTW....when did they put a Meijer inside the city of Detroit>? Is that the only major grocery store located inside the city of Detroit ? <<<<things are looking up


There are two. One on Grand River and the other on 8 Mile.
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October 30th, 2016 at 12:24:26 PM permalink
Nj apparently is raising gas tax by .23 a gallon. They will go from the cheapest in the region to the high end.
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October 31st, 2016 at 9:25:25 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Nj apparently is raising gas tax by .23 a gallon. They will go from the cheapest in the region to the high end.



They will be adding a 23 cent per gallon tax on Nov 1. The total price per gallon will still be cheaper than neighboring NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/n-gas-tax-set-rise-49th-6th-highest-u-s-article-1.2851490
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April 7th, 2020 at 5:30:26 PM permalink
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It's time to resurrect this thread.

I stopped at Sam's Club on the way to work this morning in Albuquerque.

Member Price for Regular Unleaded, $1.25 per US Gallon.

Super Unleaded, $1.75.
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April 7th, 2020 at 5:46:54 PM permalink
I saw $2.31 for regular unleaded today in Las Vegas. That is the cheapest I have seen.
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April 7th, 2020 at 7:26:01 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

They will be adding a 23 cent per gallon tax on Nov 1. The total price per gallon will still be cheaper than neighboring NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/n-gas-tax-set-rise-49th-6th-highest-u-s-article-1.2851490

I

In addition to your increase in the gas tax, you all have those stupid tolls. So glad we donít have any out west except maybe Calif, but they deserve it. We can go broke leaving the casino and donít have to worry about having to pay the tolls to get home. Lowest Iíve seen in Reno is $1.97 for reg at a non brand station. Chevron is $2.49
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April 7th, 2020 at 9:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I saw $2.31 for regular unleaded today in Las Vegas. That is the cheapest I have seen.


Where in Vegas? I paid $2.70 the other day...Terribles Chevron, west side.
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April 7th, 2020 at 10:45:12 PM permalink
Detroit area showing 94 cents a gallon at some stations.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPrices/Michigan/Detroit
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