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Quote: DRichMy wife had some excitement on her way home from her trip. She had a 7am flight so was on the way to the airport at 5:30am in rural Montana. At 70 mph their car intersected with a spooked deer and totaled the car. Fortunately, neither her or her father were injured. They were definitely shaken up, the deer did not make it and is probably jerky by now.
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Thank God she's back Now you can give up your diet of eating nothing but Pringles and gas station meat sticks
Quote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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A certain Predident of a certain country wants to invade and conquer Greenland because he thinks Greenland is bigger than it actually is, due to the distorted maps he keeps looking at. A map that tells the truth is overdue.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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I thought it was the 'peter' projection to, you know, make certain parts of your body look bigger
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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I thought it was the 'peter' projection to, you know, make certain parts of your body look bigger
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Well, I believe it does exaggerate the size of France, Spain, and Portugal a bit... which, if you're going to include a bit of flattery in your work, flattering your prospective clientele would make sense.
Quote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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Kind of, but it just renders the distortion in a different way. It also does nothing good at the poles.
There's no getting around having to privilege some point on a sphere when going from a 3D to a 2D system. If you accept the Copernican Principle that in reality there are no privileged points, your projection then has to be from the perspective of a point chosen by the mapmaker.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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Kind of, but it just renders the distortion in a different way. It also does nothing good at the poles.
There's no getting around having to privilege some point on a sphere when going from a 3D to a 2D system. If you accept the Copernican Principle that in reality there are no privileged points, your projection then has to be from the perspective of a point chosen by the mapmaker.
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Yes. That is the fundamental nature of trying to represent the surface of a geoid* on a plane.
We want some distortion, but which, and why?
Is your stated favor for Mercator based in a reason other than familiarity?
Quote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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Kind of, but it just renders the distortion in a different way. It also does nothing good at the poles.
There's no getting around having to privilege some point on a sphere when going from a 3D to a 2D system. If you accept the Copernican Principle that in reality there are no privileged points, your projection then has to be from the perspective of a point chosen by the mapmaker.
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Yes. That is the fundamental nature of trying to represent the surface of a geoid* on a plane.
We want some distortion, but which, and why?
Is your stated favor for Mercator based in a reason other than familiarity?In case you're not a ball-earther, the challenges are at least as real for hotdog-earth.
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Yes, directionality. If I was aiming an antenna, for example, the Mercator will tell me which way to aim it (except at a pole where the infinite expansion of a point to a line takes away all resolution). For anything where you want to travel in a straight line to something, as photons do, the Mercator map gives you that angle. We can't travel on a straight line on a curved surface but the Mercator map gives us one angle we can use as a 2D representation of our 3D motion.
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...Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance....
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...For anything where you want to travel in a straight line to something, as photons do, the Mercator map gives you that angle. We can't travel on a straight line on a curved surface but the Mercator map gives us one angle we can use as a 2D representation of our 3D motion....
Hey wait a minute, this got me thinking!
What if... these two effects were exactly the same thing? That the 3D universe we observe is just a "flat map" representation of a curved 4D universe, and the expansion of space over a distance from an observer is an emergent property that appears to preserve the property of photons traveling in straight lines through empty 3D space?
In that case, the "dark energy" said to be driving the expansion of the universe is really just normal energy pushing against a dimensional constraint?
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanThe U.N. has adopted a new map of the world. The old map has been widely used since the 17th century, and while it gets the shape of landmasses correct, it distorts the size of some bodies. Trying to print a round globe on a flat map leads to some distortions.
The new map purports to be more accurate, and makes Africa much more prominent while diminishing the size of the US and most of Europe. Greenland appears much smaller than on the older maps. On older maps, Greenland appears similar in size to Africa, when it is nearly 15 times smaller.
164 nations approved the change, while only one voted against it. No word on when the new map will officially be used by every country.
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No, no one will ever use it! With the possible exception of the kind of public school teacher who teaches that Africans invented the periodic table.
The Mercator Projection keeps directions and relative locations (on a spherical surface) accurate by using a non-linear unit vector for distances. That's what flat maps are used for- how to get there. At the poles it is severely distorted, to the point where each pole spreads across the top and bottom edges of the map, but that was never an issue before we had the ability to travel to a pole. If you have a problem with what gets distorted where and by how much, you can always redraw your Mercator Projection from a different origin and it will still have all of its same advantageous characteristics. If someone was drawing a Mercator map of Antarctica it would be two points on the equator that stretch across the top and bottom edges of the map.
Spookily, we've discovered that space works the same way- the farther away something is, the more space has expanded and larger the relative distances are between points at a distance.
Sorry but globes exist for a reason, we can't just wish away math, and if you want a representation of the earth where both length unit vectors remain constant and angular measurements remain accurate, you will need an ellipsoidal globe.
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Doesn't the Peters Projection basically maintain all those Mercator-ish useful attributes?
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Kind of, but it just renders the distortion in a different way. It also does nothing good at the poles.
There's no getting around having to privilege some point on a sphere when going from a 3D to a 2D system. If you accept the Copernican Principle that in reality there are no privileged points, your projection then has to be from the perspective of a point chosen by the mapmaker.
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Yes. That is the fundamental nature of trying to represent the surface of a geoid* on a plane.
We want some distortion, but which, and why?
Is your stated favor for Mercator based in a reason other than familiarity?In case you're not a ball-earther, the challenges are at least as real for hotdog-earth.
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Yes, directionality. If I was aiming an antenna, for example, the Mercator will tell me which way to aim it (except at a pole where the infinite expansion of a point to a line takes away all resolution). For anything where you want to travel in a straight line to something, as photons do, the Mercator map gives you that angle. We can't travel on a straight line on a curved surface but the Mercator map gives us one angle we can use as a 2D representation of our 3D motion.
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Good heavens... how tight is your beamwidth, and why aren't you using Maidenhead?
I never had to learn in school the capitals to all of the states in the U.S., although I do actually know them.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichMy wife had some excitement on her way home from her trip. She had a 7am flight so was on the way to the airport at 5:30am in rural Montana. At 70 mph their car intersected with a spooked deer and totaled the car. Fortunately, neither her or her father were injured. They were definitely shaken up, the deer did not make it and is probably jerky by now.
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Thank God she's back Now you can give up your diet of eating nothing but Pringles and gas station meat sticks
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Honestly, I eat better when she is gone.
Quote: billryanThe City of Tucson is planning to plant a million trees within the city's boundaries over the next decade and planted over 100,000 last year. Currently, less than 7% of the city's surface has tree shade. Cacti seem to be the main plant around here, but they don't offer much shade. Proponents of the plan claim it will lower summer temperatures by 5- 10 degrees and raise property values.
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Are there native shade trees in AZ?
Quote: billryanThe City of Tucson is planning to plant a million trees within the city's boundaries over the next decade and planted over 100,000 last year. Currently, less than 7% of the city's surface has tree shade. Cacti seem to be the main plant around here, but they don't offer much shade. Proponents of the plan claim it will lower summer temperatures by 5- 10 degrees and raise property values.
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Isn't there a reason for no trees like lack of water?
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanThe City of Tucson is planning to plant a million trees within the city's boundaries over the next decade and planted over 100,000 last year. Currently, less than 7% of the city's surface has tree shade. Cacti seem to be the main plant around here, but they don't offer much shade. Proponents of the plan claim it will lower summer temperatures by 5- 10 degrees and raise property values.
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Are there native shade trees in AZ?
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Quite a few. Mesquites, Desert Willows, Palm trees, and many more. Tucson was built with extra-wide streets, and many of the trees developers planted as Tucson expanded weren't right for the climate, so only a few survive. They are growing them just north of here and transplanting 400 or more trees a day around the city. They grow a hybrid palo verde that can grow six feet in the first year. After it is transplanted, it will slowly grow and top out at 25 feet, with a 20- to 30-foot canopy. When planted along streets, they will block the sunlight from reflecting off the concrete. The downside is that the canopy-to-trunk ratio makes them top-heavy, and young trees are susceptible to being ripped out by their roots during monsoons. The arborists who are growing them claim that a year-old transplant has a probability of living fifty years and a possibility of living well over a hundred, if trimmed every decade or so.
Northern Arizona has forests of evergreens, but that's hundreds of miles from Tucson
Quote: DRichIn Iran they are ow encountering gas shortages for automobiles. There was just a huge price increased announced and gas is now over 20 cents a gallon in some places. That is about four times what they were paying which was about 5 cents a gallon.
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20 cents a gallon in Iranian money today it's about $400,000 in their money. No joke Look it up So $2 million in their money now buys 5 gallons of gas. And from what I hear they're mostly not even being paid at their jobs anymore
Quote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanThe City of Tucson is planning to plant a million trees within the city's boundaries over the next decade and planted over 100,000 last year. Currently, less than 7% of the city's surface has tree shade. Cacti seem to be the main plant around here, but they don't offer much shade. Proponents of the plan claim it will lower summer temperatures by 5- 10 degrees and raise property values.
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Are there native shade trees in AZ?
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Quite a few. Mesquites, Desert Willows, Palm trees, and many more. Tucson was built with extra-wide streets, and many of the trees developers planted as Tucson expanded weren't right for the climate, so only a few survive. They are growing them just north of here and transplanting 400 or more trees a day around the city. They grow a hybrid palo verde that can grow six feet in the first year. After it is transplanted, it will slowly grow and top out at 25 feet, with a 20- to 30-foot canopy. When planted along streets, they will block the sunlight from reflecting off the concrete. The downside is that the canopy-to-trunk ratio makes them top-heavy, and young trees are susceptible to being ripped out by their roots during monsoons. The arborists who are growing them claim that a year-old transplant has a probability of living fifty years and a possibility of living well over a hundred, if trimmed every decade or so.
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Got to be careful with what trees you plant and where you plant them, as the roots will wreck the pavement. They will also invade storm drains and building foundations.
Quote: billryanThere is a separate initiative to plant 20,000 Mesquite trees on public land and use the pods and sap to feed the homeless. Mesquite pods are considered a superfood, but the season lasts only a few months. The gift plaza on the San Xavier Mission has sap glue, sap candy, sap tea, and hard sap similar to jerky. The project got off to a rocky start, and only 400 trees were planted this season. Whatever paperwork they were missing is supposed to be fixed, and they have a number of scout groups signed up.
Northern Arizona has forests of evergreens, but that's hundreds of miles from Tucson
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Tucson has so many homeless people they have to eat trees? Wow
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanThe City of Tucson is planning to plant a million trees within the city's boundaries over the next decade and planted over 100,000 last year. Currently, less than 7% of the city's surface has tree shade. Cacti seem to be the main plant around here, but they don't offer much shade. Proponents of the plan claim it will lower summer temperatures by 5- 10 degrees and raise property values.
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Are there native shade trees in AZ?
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Quite a few. Mesquites, Desert Willows, Palm trees, and many more. Tucson was built with extra-wide streets, and many of the trees developers planted as Tucson expanded weren't right for the climate, so only a few survive. They are growing them just north of here and transplanting 400 or more trees a day around the city. They grow a hybrid palo verde that can grow six feet in the first year. After it is transplanted, it will slowly grow and top out at 25 feet, with a 20- to 30-foot canopy. When planted along streets, they will block the sunlight from reflecting off the concrete. The downside is that the canopy-to-trunk ratio makes them top-heavy, and young trees are susceptible to being uprooted during monsoons. The arborists who are growing them claim that a year-old transplant has a probability of living for fifty years and a possibility of living well over a hundred years if trimmed every decade or so.
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Got to be careful with what trees you plant and where you plant them, as the roots will wreck the pavement. They will also invade storm drains and building foundations.
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The Palo Verdes somehow absorb sunlight and convert it into food, so they don't require much water and don't develop extensive root systems. The Desert Museum hybrid is also thornless, whereas most palo verdes have thick thorns.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
They conducted a series of auctions this week, and I won two big lots. The first was a lot of 100 10-inch plates and 100 12-inch ones. The second was listed as 200
forks of various sizes, but it turned out to be 200 five-piece place settings.
My total cost was $37 and I won't have to do dishes for at least a year.
Quote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
Quote: billryanA Mexican-themed sports bar was supposed to open in downtown Tucson a few months ago, but the corporate owners pulled the plug on it, without ever opening.
They conducted a series of auctions this week, and I won two big lots. The first was a lot of 100 10-inch plates and 100 12-inch ones. The second was listed as 200
forks of various sizes, but it turned out to be 200 five-piece place settings.
My total cost was $37 and I won't have to do dishes for at least a year.
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billryan,
Sure, but when you finally dirty all those plates, you dishwasher will be running nonstop for a week! 😄
Dog Hand
Minnesota’s governor might as well be femaleQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Quote: DogHandQuote: billryanA Mexican-themed sports bar was supposed to open in downtown Tucson a few months ago, but the corporate owners pulled the plug on it, without ever opening.
They conducted a series of auctions this week, and I won two big lots. The first was a lot of 100 10-inch plates and 100 12-inch ones. The second was listed as 200
forks of various sizes, but it turned out to be 200 five-piece place settings.
My total cost was $37 and I won't have to do dishes for at least a year.
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billryan,
Sure, but when you finally dirty all those plates, you dishwasher will be running nonstop for a week! 😄
Dog Hand
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Target shooting!
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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It's all about the money. State Politics does not usually pay enough for a man to support his entire family today so quite often it's a second income for the family when a woman gets elected. The same thing happened in the veterinary business for decades all I saw was male veterinarians and in the last 20 years all I see is females haven't seen a man in at least 20 years. It doesn't pay enough anymore but it does pay enough for women as the second job in the family.
Quote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
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With the way US politics is nowadays, the men in the majority party in the Federal government have no problem with lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, blasphemy and even discrete buggery.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
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With the way US politics is nowadays, the men in the majority party in the Federal government have no problem with lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, blasphemy and even discrete buggery.
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Well now, I'm not going to discuss partisan politics here because it's against the rules I agreed to follow, and I honor my agreements. But if you were to do an objective roundup of documented, rather than alleged or whispered incidents, I suspect you might be displeased with the results.
But that kind of makes my point, I'm aware of how bad the behavior of the political class is in general. I've known a few girls who have been cornered in a politician's office, and not necessarily by a male. Seems we were less tolerant of that before 1920.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
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With the way US politics is nowadays, the men in the majority party in the Federal government have no problem with lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, blasphemy and even discrete buggery.
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Well now, I'm not going to discuss partisan politics here because it's against the rules I agreed to follow, and I honor my agreements. But if you were to do an objective roundup of documented, rather than alleged or whispered incidents, I suspect you might be displeased with the results.
But that kind of makes my point, I'm aware of how bad the behavior of the political class is in general. I've known a few girls who have been cornered in a politician's office, and not necessarily by a male. Seems we were less tolerant of that before 1920.
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Poppycock! We were less tolerant of it before 1920 becasue we never heard of it before 1920, since women weren't in any political power. Never ever offer me whatever it is you are taking.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
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With the way US politics is nowadays, the men in the majority party in the Federal government have no problem with lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, blasphemy and even discrete buggery.
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WARNING: Partisan political speech. Not allowed in this forum. Next offense will result in suspension.
Quote: gordonm888Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DRichQuote: billryanAn interesting phenomenon is occurring in the Western Region of our country. New Mexico is the first state to have female majorities in both chambers and a female governor. Arizona has a female governor and a female-majority senate. Both Colorado and Nevada have legislatures that are majority female. 70% of Minnesota's congressional delegation is female. Maine and Iowa briefly had similar representation.
In 1970, only 4 percent of elected legislators in the US were female. In 2024, it was just over a third, but in the western states, females represent over 50% of elected officials.
New Mexico took advantage of its first female-majority legislature to pass universal day care and free college and is attempting real drug law reforms and to break the systematic corruption in several sheriffs' offices in the state, as well as starting new housing initiatives
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Some idiot allows women to vote and now they want to take over the world.
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I think it was a bad idea. Women have no resistance to the lies of men and accept lies that make them feel good, while men who lie to other men are despised among men. Lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, buggery, blasphemy- all put men in the contempt of their fellows, while women will accept any and all of those in a man if she likes the way he smiles at her.
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With the way US politics is nowadays, the men in the majority party in the Federal government have no problem with lying, cheating, stealing, cowardice, treason, blasphemy and even discrete buggery.
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WARNING: Partisan political speech. Not allowed in this forum. Next offense will result in suspension.
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That needs to go both ways, including those who think women are unworthy of voting sufferage.
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That needs to go both ways, including those who think women are unworthy of voting sufferage.
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I tend to agree, but I'm also convinced that Lysistrata in apartment 4B will achieve far more than we could.
Hopefully it's out of everyone's system now.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-foster-mom-accused-trading-teen-monkey-avoids-prison
It seems a lot of cases in the news involving a house full of abused kids- chained up, locked in basement, house of filth, starved, and in this case trafficked- involve the foster care system, and I always wondered what motivated people to do that. Did they start out with good intentions and get in over their heads, or just sadism to begin with, or what? No, it's the money- some states have huge subsidies per head for doing this, especially if a child has some kind of handicap. Note what she said- "I'll be keeping the check." These people have been acquiring as many kids as possible for the checks and spending as little as possible, in a strictly for-profit warehousing operation. How is this better than state-run orphanages?
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyHow is this better than state-run orphanages?
I still prefer the idea of forcing abortions unless the parents can pass some sort of child raising competency test and a means test.
Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyHow is this better than state-run orphanages?
I still prefer the idea of forcing abortions unless the parents can pass some sort of child raising competency test and a means test.
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Oh, good one! Like a 19th Amendment discussion wasn't enough, now you're going to drop the A-bomb on us! Quack and cover!
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That needs to go both ways, including those who think women are unworthy of voting sufferage.
If you get a forum demographic of older white guys they think that's "normal". Pretty much every younger gambler plays online now so that's all there is here: a few dozen old guys who haven't gambled in years. Moderators tend to be petty, small-minded authoritarian types who enjoy the abuse of minor power, so they tend to encourage this type of decay.
You might want to try a less reactionary forum, or start your own. I wouldn't bash your head against a wall trying to communicate with people who get their information from television and their yahoo mail feed. It can affect your mind badly communicating with such unpleasant, hateful people.
Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkeyHow is this better than state-run orphanages?
I still prefer the idea of forcing abortions unless the parents can pass some sort of child raising competency test and a means test.
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This is way over the line for controversial topics.
7 days.
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That needs to go both ways, including those who think women are unworthy of voting sufferage.
If you get a forum demographic of older white guys they think that's "normal". Pretty much every younger gambler plays online now so that's all there is here: a few dozen old guys who haven't gambled in years. Moderators tend to be petty, small-minded authoritarian types who enjoy the abuse of minor power, so they tend to encourage this type of decay.
You might want to try a less reactionary forum, or start your own. I wouldn't bash your head against a wall trying to communicate with people who get their information from television and their yahoo mail feed. It can affect your mind badly communicating with such unpleasant, hateful people.
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Day is done. Gone the sun. Gone the moon, gone the night, gone the stars. All is well, safely rest. God is nigh.
Slotlemur, you are permanently banned from this forum.
The gist of the new laws seems to moderate penalties for first offenders and stiffen penalties for repeat offenders and those who abuse the most vulnerable.
Quote: billryanFor some reason, new laws in Arizona take effect the Monday after Labor Day, so we have a bunch of new laws kicking in. One gives the police more discretion on whether they tow cars; another changes which services are subject to sales tax. Another makes lane splitting on a motorcycle a criminal offense instead of a traffic ticket and allows police to seize the bike. They also clarified the difference between lane filtering (legal) and lane splitting now criminal)
The gist of the new laws seems to moderate penalties for first offenders and stiffen penalties for repeat offenders and those who abuse the most vulnerable.
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Lane splitting (driving a motorcycle between two lanes of moving cars) is only legal in one American state: California. Perhaps its an experiment in natural selection?
I believe that lane filtering (driving a motorcycle between two lanes of stopped cars) is legal in every state.
