Quote: DRichQuote: billryan
I hope so. Just don't do anything stupid.
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I don't like my odds on not doing anything stupid.
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But we're depending on you for the entertainment value. I'm sure you have an iPhone so you will be able to stay in contact. And you'll have the generator to recharge the phone. If your power goes out you will probably lose your modem but you never know. If your power goes out plug your modem into the generator and see if it works.
'you’re going to die,' Axios reported on Tuesday."
I'm sure she's being hyperbolic, because if she's being serious she's an idiot. Saying everybody's going to die is ridiculous.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: billryan
I hope so. Just don't do anything stupid.
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I don't like my odds on not doing anything stupid.
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But we're depending on you for the entertainment value. I'm sure you have an iPhone so you will be able to stay in contact. And you'll have the generator to recharge the phone. If your power goes out you will probably lose your modem but you never know. If your power goes out plug your modem into the generator and see if it works.
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Two year ago after hurricane Ian we had no phone service for three days. No electric 10 days, no water 5 days, no land based internet 18 days. When you have heavy winds everything gets knocked out. It keeps life exciting.
Normally they are called solar generators (even if you don't use solar to charge them)Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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Also emergency lanterns with LEDs powered by batteries. I have four of these. Also a portable generator that you charge from the wall. I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it. It's called a generator because you can charge the battery in an emergency with the pull cord on the side. Takes a while but it works.
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What kind of electronics are we talking about? What brand and specs? I have a new 1800W 1,152Wh BLUETTI and it isn't enough to charge my laptop for more than 10 hours when left on.
Quote: EvenBobNothing from DRich today, did the storm get him before it even arrived. Did he evacuate? Does this mean I can steal his generator while he's gone?
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Hurricane has been aiming more South today where he lives. He may be driving away. If I remember correctly he’s not that far from the Gulf and there are canals all over the area as well.
Quote: EvenBobNothing from DRich today, did the storm get him before it even arrived. Did he evacuate? Does this mean I can steal his generator while he's gone?
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Sure.
Leave your house and head to FL asap.
Quote: EvenBobNothing from DRich today, did the storm get him before it even arrived. Did he evacuate? Does this mean I can steal his generator while he's gone?
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Looting from people in dire situations is despicable!
…Wait up, I’m coming, too! I’ll bring my truck…
Seriously, I hope nobody is injured and that damages are minimal. Safe travels for those who evac.
Quote: EvenBobNothing from DRich today, did the storm get him before it even arrived. Did he evacuate? Does this mean I can steal his generator while he's gone?
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I worked until about noon and am now catching up on my recordings of Hogan's Heroes. The worst of the storm is passed me but still expecting the storm surge.
Quote: ChumpChangeThe tornadoes look to be particularly dangerous.
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I did have a tornado touch down not too far from me.
still enough light to see what's going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu9hC5MokCA
11 pm EDT and there's 1.75 million customers without power in Florida. Over a foot of rain has fallen in Tampa and it's spreading eastward. Rain is falling at 5" per hour. The eye came over Sarasota and there were 90 mph winds prior to that.
3:30 am EDT and there's 2.9 million customers without power, and 18" of rain fell in St. Pete & 10" in Tampa so far. Looks like a 30 mile swath of 10" of rain from St. Pete to Orlando and beyond. There were 126 tornadoes all over Florida before the hurricane came ashore. Milton is still a cat 1 with 85 mph winds with gusts to 125 mph. Large areas had winds over 100 mph winds.
There were over 4.5 million customers without power in several states after Hurricane Helene. I think there's still over a million without power from that storm.
RT: Milton tore Tropicana Field's roof off. That was where emergency services and an army of linemen were staging to serve Tampa Bay. (Expletive deleted)
Quote: rxwineThe unusual thing about Helene was hitting a landscape like N. Carolina, causing landslides in canyons and things like that. Hard to tell yet if there is anything atypical about Milton. Seems like more tornado action though.
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Helene hit the Great Smoky Mountains and stalled, dumping enormous amounts of rain. And water runs downhill and most of the land in western NC is mountains and ridges, concentrating all the water runoff in rivers and gullies - where the houses are. As you say, Florida is nothing like Western NC - a different set of problems.
Quote: DRichWe survived in Cape Coral, FL. Power is out. We think our house is fine but can't assess until it gets light out. No flooding by my house but other areas of the city have flooding.
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DRich around yet? The total inland flooding was likely continuing on through the night.
Quote: DRichI’m here. Very sweaty but everything else is good. Once we get power I will be happy
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What do they figure a week to 10 days of no power? They're still working on getting the power back on in North Carolina. 80,000 people in North Carolina and Georgia are out and 3 million and counting in Florida. I can't even wrap my head around that number. I'm sure some of them it will be weeks before they get their power back.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichI’m here. Very sweaty but everything else is good. Once we get power I will be happy
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What do they figure a week to 10 days of no power? They're still working on getting the power back on in North Carolina. 80,000 people in North Carolina and Georgia are out and 3 million and counting in Florida. I can't even wrap my head around that number. I'm sure some of them it will be weeks before they get their power back.
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I've seen a lot of convoys of utility repair trucks with the cherrypicker buckets heading that way. As more and more time passes, the markings on the trucks seem to be from power companies farther and farther from the incident. I am seeing crews doing repairs, but I'm not paying much attention to what exactly they're repairing.
Does anyone have a good guess about how many people with CPAP or similar devices are in the power outage area?
Quote:What is an F12 tornado?
Lecture 32 -Tornadoes pt. 2
The original Fujita Scale actually goes up to F12. An F12 tornado would have winds of about 740 MPH, the speed of sound. Roughly 3/4 of all tornadoes are EF0 or EF1 tornadoes and have winds that are less than 100 MPH. EF4 and EF5 tornadoes are rare but cause the majority of tornado deaths.
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DRichI’m here. Very sweaty but everything else is good. Once we get power I will be happy
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What do they figure a week to 10 days of no power? They're still working on getting the power back on in North Carolina. 80,000 people in North Carolina and Georgia are out and 3 million and counting in Florida. I can't even wrap my head around that number. I'm sure some of them it will be weeks before they get their power back.
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I've seen a lot of convoys of utility repair trucks with the cherrypicker buckets heading that way. As more and more time passes, the markings on the trucks seem to be from power companies farther and farther from the incident. I am seeing crews doing repairs, but I'm not paying much attention to what exactly they're repairing.
Does anyone have a good guess about how many people with CPAP or similar devices are in the power outage area?
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"During major power outages, repair crews from other
states can often make a significant amount of money
due to the high demand for their services, often
working long hours at premium rates, especially when
traveling to areas experiencing severe damage from
storms or natural disasters where local crews may
be overwhelmed."
A repair man explained it that when that little wheel in your meter isn't turning in a major power outage that company is losing a fortune. They don't give a rip that you want the power back on what they care about is the company starts making money again.
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A repair man explained it that when that little wheel in your meter isn't turning in a major power outage that company is losing a fortune. They don't give a rip that you want the power back on what they care about is the company starts making money again.
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Oh no, that part, I understand.
Get the most subscribers restored as quickly as possible is their usual optimization.
In my former life, I worked for an outfit that was "a big customer" of the local power company. We had the biggest size of those green transformer boxes the power company had ever installed, and we had two of them.
I was having a nice 3am meal at a diner one night, and the guy next to me struck up a conversation. Turns out, he was a lineman for the power company. He started telling me about one of the repair jobs he went to. Apparently an underground tunnel had flooded, shorting out some power cables, and this had caused a substation to overload and catch on fire. Utility company management had to get someone on the phone to make sure we weren't in a peak usage time before they dared accidentally switch off our power (apparently our connection might be affected), and nevermind that a quarter of the city was blacked out.
Their goal is definitely to keep billing for the most kilowatt-hours that they can. The really big industrial subscribers will have shut down operations, as their staff will have evacuated.
I keep a deep-cycle marine battery and power inverter on hand for times (there have been a few) when I need to run my CPAP when the power goes out. It will last for several days before it needs a charge, and keeps me from having to run the generator all night.Quote: DieterDoes anyone have a good guess about how many people with CPAP or similar devices are in the power outage area?
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I initially got this setup so that I could have electricity at football tailgates, but it also serves when the power goes out.
BTW, we got a couple of flickers from Helene, but not even a blip with Milton -- didn't lose power from either.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichI’m here. Very sweaty but everything else is good. Once we get power I will be happy
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What do they figure a week to 10 days of no power? They're still working on getting the power back on in North Carolina. 80,000 people in North Carolina and Georgia are out and 3 million and counting in Florida. I can't even wrap my head around that number. I'm sure some of them it will be weeks before they get their power back.
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This storm wasn't that bad here. I wouldn't be surprised if they had most of it back on in my city by this weekend. I even think today is a real possibility. Most of the city had evacuated but I expect most of the workers are back by now.
EB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
Quote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
There are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
Quote: AxelWolfThere are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
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I actually have two of them, one's a jackery and the other one is not. It's smaller and I have it in my office but I haven't used either one of them for a year so I am confusing them. The jackery can be recharged with solar and the other one has a pull cord. I've never used the solar because it just hasn't come up. Us old guys like to be over prepared for emergencies because we realize what it's like to be under prepared. I even have an extra unused brand new oil field space heater still in the box in case one of the othesr stopped working.
Quote: AxelWolfThere are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
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Not sure what you’re doing on your laptop, but if you can’t do it on a low power mode you will probably eat up quite a bit of charge. Running an air conditioner is probably the most power consuming thing especially if it runs a lot. You can buy smaller backpacking chargers for phones and things like that. If you’re doing camping in an RV it might be better to get propane stove, or campfires for cooking if you need to spare electric use off-grid.
While the general use is to cordlessly simmer a soup in the middle of a dinner table (hotpot), they'll work for just about any single burner cookery. (The basic models are a little underpowered for high-heat wok frying, but the gas lasts much longer.)
I believe you are underpowered/underprepared for an emergency, assuming you want to be comfortable and charge all your electronics like you claim you can. You should have a minimum of a 2200 gas-powered generator and 10 gallons of fuel with additives to preserve the gas.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThere are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
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I actually have two of them, one's a jackery and the other one is not. It's smaller and I have it in my office but I haven't used either one of them for a year so I am confusing them. The jackery can be recharged with solar and the other one has a pull cord. I've never used the solar because it just hasn't come up. Us old guys like to be over prepared for emergencies because we realize what it's like to be under prepared. I even have an extra unused brand new oil field space heater still in the box in case one of the othesr stopped working.
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Do you even have Solar panels to change that stuff? Even with 400W of solar, it could take 5 or 8 hours.
I have yet to find anything for less than 3k that can charge multiple devices like you suggested for 48 hours.If you are using all lowered-powered Android computers, phones, and hotspots, then yeah that's probably fine. But how are you powering a router and computer for 48 hours? What about refrigeration?
A hand-pull generator(they don't even make a pull cord like you are suggesting that powers more than the smallest emergency things, they are not going to do crap other than get you some emergency lights or cell charge. A more efficient hand crank will be better, but it's not going to do much either.
I just ordered another BluE-180 because it was half-price for the Amazon sale. The first one was over 1k.
Quote: AxelWolfI believe you are underpowered/underprepared for an emergency, assuming you want to be comfortable and charge all your electronics like you claim you can. You should have a minimum of a 2200 gas-powered generator and 10 gallons of fuel with additives to preserve the gas.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThere are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
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I actually have two of them, one's a jackery and the other one is not. It's smaller and I have it in my office but I haven't used either one of them for a year so I am confusing them. The jackery can be recharged with solar and the other one has a pull cord. I've never used the solar because it just hasn't come up. Us old guys like to be over prepared for emergencies because we realize what it's like to be under prepared. I even have an extra unused brand new oil field space heater still in the box in case one of the othesr stopped working.
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Do you even have Solar panels to change that stuff? Even with 400W of solar, it could take 5 or 8 hours.
I have yet to find anything for less than 3k that can charge multiple devices like you suggested for 48 hours.If you are using all lowered-powered Android computers, phones, and hotspots, then yeah that's probably fine. But how are you powering a router and computer for 48 hours? What about refrigeration?
A hand-pull generator(they don't even make a pull cord like you are suggesting that powers more than the smallest emergency things, they are not going to do crap other than get you some emergency lights or cell charge. A more efficient hand crank will be better, but it's not going to do much either.
I just ordered another BluE-180 because it was half-price for the Amazon sale. The first one was over 1k.
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You apparently don't read my posts. I've stated here many times I have a 4000 Watt generator on my porch that produces 3,500 actual usable Watts. I've always had a generator since 1990. Anybody who depends on small generators like a Jackery is asking for trouble. I'm overpowered and over prepared for everything. I even have my generator hooked up to my furnace in the basement.
Do they have a cat-powered treadmill attached as well? 😀Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfI believe you are underpowered/underprepared for an emergency, assuming you want to be comfortable and charge all your electronics like you claim you can. You should have a minimum of a 2200 gas-powered generator and 10 gallons of fuel with additives to preserve the gas.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfThere are many different Jackery models, that's why I asked what the specs were. I would love something that would be able to charge multiple electronics for 48 hours without breaking the bank.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfEB what kind is it? I'm seriously interested in something with that kind of Wh.Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Time to stock up on jerky, Cheerios, Cheetos, Oreos, you know, all the primary food groups.
I still have about 5 lbs of jerky and one box of Cheerios.
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I can run three LED lights and charge my electronics for 48 hours without having to recharge it.
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Jackery, of course
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I did a significant amount of research on Jackery vs other power stations, it seemed as if the Jackery brand was overpriced.
Interestingly enough, I don't believe any Jackerys comes with a pull cord or crank charging mechanism, so I'm not sure what cord you are pulling on to change it, but that might be why it takes a while to charge.
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I actually have two of them, one's a jackery and the other one is not. It's smaller and I have it in my office but I haven't used either one of them for a year so I am confusing them. The jackery can be recharged with solar and the other one has a pull cord. I've never used the solar because it just hasn't come up. Us old guys like to be over prepared for emergencies because we realize what it's like to be under prepared. I even have an extra unused brand new oil field space heater still in the box in case one of the othesr stopped working.
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Do you even have Solar panels to change that stuff? Even with 400W of solar, it could take 5 or 8 hours.
I have yet to find anything for less than 3k that can charge multiple devices like you suggested for 48 hours.If you are using all lowered-powered Android computers, phones, and hotspots, then yeah that's probably fine. But how are you powering a router and computer for 48 hours? What about refrigeration?
A hand-pull generator(they don't even make a pull cord like you are suggesting that powers more than the smallest emergency things, they are not going to do crap other than get you some emergency lights or cell charge. A more efficient hand crank will be better, but it's not going to do much either.
I just ordered another BluE-180 because it was half-price for the Amazon sale. The first one was over 1k.
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You apparently don't read my posts. I've stated here many times I have a 4000 Watt generator on my porch that produces 3,500 actual usable Watts. I've always had a generator since 1990. Anybody who depends on small generators like a Jackery is asking for trouble. I'm overpowered and over prepared for everything. I even have my generator hooked up to my furnace in the basement.
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Yeah, I probably missed all that, or don't remember. You seem to have enough power using the generators. 👍
I have an Onanon the RV, it's at least 5500, but I forget exactly. I have a duel gas/propane 2200 because the 5500 was way more than I needed and it really sucked up the gas. Supposedly, the 2200 will last all day/night with 1 gallon of gas, but I'm skeptical of that, I haven't used it yet.
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I have an Onanon the RV, it's at least 5500, but I forget exactly. I have a duel gas/propane 2200 because the 5500 was way more than I needed and it really sucked up the gas. Supposedly, the 2200 will last all day/night with 1 gallon of gas, but I'm skeptical of that, I haven't used it yet.
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I generally expect that size generator to burn 1 gallon an hour under load.
The marketing brochures often try to brag about long runtimes when only loaded to 25%, or "barely above idle".
I'd rather be pleasantly surprised to only refuel every 3 hours than every hour, instead of running out of power because the fuel tanks ran dry 3 days early.
Quote: Dieter
I generally expect that size generator to burn 1 gallon an hour under load.
I was getting about 3 hours per gallon this week on mine but I have no idea how much load it was under.
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I generally expect that size generator to burn 1 gallon an hour under load.
I was getting about 3 hours per gallon this week on mine but I have no idea how much load it was under.
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I usually get four hours per gallon with mine so that's not bad
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: Dieter
I generally expect that size generator to burn 1 gallon an hour under load.
I was getting about 3 hours per gallon this week on mine but I have no idea how much load it was under.
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I usually get four hours per gallon with mine so that's not bad
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That's pretty good.
Is that running much more than the furnace?
What kind of generator and size, if you don't mind?
Quote: DieterQuote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: Dieter
I generally expect that size generator to burn 1 gallon an hour under load.
I was getting about 3 hours per gallon this week on mine but I have no idea how much load it was under.
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I usually get four hours per gallon with mine so that's not bad
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That's pretty good.
Is that running much more than the furnace?
What kind of generator and size, if you don't mind?
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Like I said a couple of posts ago 4,000 watts 3500 watts of usable electricity.
Google News had an article from NBC News authored by Rob Wile about the insurance crisis in Florida and how the insurance carriers are denying claims from the two hurricanes. The article explains that one cannot sue the carrier in court due to changes in Florida law to protect the insurance companies.
I previously posted that if I were in that situation of a possible large loss due to a hurricane or flooding, I would torch my dwelling because fire is always a covered peril in property insurance. Some of you jumped at me for this statement, but given the reality of this article and previous behaviors of insurance company claims, if I were DRich, I would have a small butane type stove in my dwelling for such an "emergency."
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Quote: tuttigymSome of you jumped at me for this statement, but given the reality of this article and previous behaviors of insurance company claims, if I were DRich, I would have a small butane type stove in my dwelling for such an "emergency."
Why would I commit a felony just to recoup money. In my mind that just doesn't make sense.
Quote: DRichQuote: tuttigymSome of you jumped at me for this statement, but given the reality of this article and previous behaviors of insurance company claims, if I were DRich, I would have a small butane type stove in my dwelling for such an "emergency."
Why would I commit a felony just to recoup money. In my mind that just doesn't make sense.
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Your choice: proving arson is very difficult, but losing everything and leaving family penniless and homeless, for me, is a no brainer. So, for you it is OK for insurance companies to commit fraud and deny rightful claims or at least take "forever" to pay some of a claim while you and your family try to make out? Doesn't work for me.
tuttigym
Praying for a lightning strike is acceptable. Suggesting insurance fraud is not.
Quote: billryanMost people learn right from wrong at an early age.
Praying for a lightning strike is acceptable. Suggesting insurance fraud is not.
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Praying is fine, but insurance companies commit fraud a lot and/or just deny claims until they can't which could be almost forever. Kinda like protecting your family from an unarmed assailant by killing him.
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Okay, down one suggestion.
Quote: rxwineMmm, pull a giant tarp over the Gulf of Mexico in front of Florida so the hurricane dies.
Okay, down one suggestion.
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Love it. Who provides the building permit?
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: billryanMost people learn right from wrong at an early age.
Praying for a lightning strike is acceptable. Suggesting insurance fraud is not.
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Praying is fine, but insurance companies commit fraud a lot and/or just deny claims until they can't which could be almost forever. Kinda like protecting your family from an unarmed assailant by killing him.
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If they are committing fraud take them to court and punish them. A jury will always reward you handsomely against a insurance company this is committing fraud.