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Quote: rxwineTrump threatening American business when they want to do something different like move a business to a different location.
Should he be interfering or not?
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Looking out for the USA. GM got tens of billions to stay alive then wants to leave the USA? He had better stand up and call that out.
Best I can remember, Trump has not told anyone they cannot open a business in the USA.
OTOH, the Obama Admin sued Boeing for OPENING a new plant, because it was in a RTW state. So this stuff goes to the highest level.
Quote: AZDuffmanREAD THE ARTICLE! It is just the latest.
Liberals are saying, "We do not like Chick-Fil-A, so WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THEM OPEN STORES!"
This is YOUR GOVERNMENT saying that! Get it? If you do not toe the line, they are using the government to shut down who they do not like!
No, they (according to the article) are saying that airports are public structures, funded and run with tax money (it's a mixture of local, state and federal dollars in nearly all cases), and the government does not support discrimination. Chik-fil-a uses money they make to fund discriminatory political groups. Those political groups have their discriminatory policies right in their charters or other organizational goal statements.
Those governments are not stopping Chik-fil-a from doing business on private property, or from choosing to donate to those groups. They are saying that public land and facilities will not be used to provide the opportunity for that funding. They don't really have a choice, under the law as it stands.
So, the answers are, at least one of the following would have to happen:
The groups would have to stop advocating anti-LGBTQ actions and agendas.
Or
Chik-fil-a would.have to stop funding them.
Or
The laws against hate speech and discrimination would have to change.
After any one of those, Chik-fil-a could then be allowed to operate on public property. But the situation now, these public entities are making the correct legal decision.
Quote: beachbumbabsNo, they (according to the article) are saying that airports are public structures, funded and run with tax money (it's a mixture of local, state and federal dollars in nearly all cases), and the government does not support discrimination. Chik-fil-a uses money they make to fund discriminatory political groups. Those political groups have their discriminatory policies right in their charters or other organizational goal statements.
Those governments are not stopping Chik-fil-a from doing business on private property, or from choosing to donate to those groups. They are saying that public land and facilities will not be used to provide the opportunity for that funding. They don't really have a choice, under the law as it stands.
So you want to take that route? It is a public place, paid for with pulbic dollars that Chick-Fil-A was part of paying. They have every right to bid on a concession there as much as anyone else does. Their political views should not come in to play. (See: 1st Amendment.)
Last I checked, there is nothing illegal in not being in favor of gay marriage or not wanting to support the gay lifestyle.
So, the answers are, at least one of the following would have to happen:
Quote:The groups would have to stop advocating anti-LGBTQ actions and agendas.
Or
Chik-fil-a would.have to stop funding them.
Or
The laws against hate speech and discrimination would have to change.
After any one of those, Chik-fil-a could then be allowed to operate on public property. But the situation now, these public entities are making the correct legal decision.
There is nothing that is "hate speech" about these groups--other than the gay lobby disagrees with them. It is not the "correct legal decision." It is the government discriminating, pure and simple.
Funny that you think the government should be allowed to deny doing business when you defended the gay bigot couple's right to have someone make them a special cake. Very inconsistent.
Quote: AZDuffmanSo you want to take that route? It is a public place, paid for with pubic dollars that Chick-Fil-A was part of paying.
That's pretty gross, and Chick-fil-A should definitely not be allowed there if they are paying in pubes. Hahahahaha.
Quote: beachbumbabsNo, they (according to the article) are saying that airports are public structures, funded and run with tax money (it's a mixture of local, state and federal dollars in nearly all cases), and the government does not support discrimination. Chik-fil-a uses money they make to fund discriminatory political groups. Those political groups have their discriminatory policies right in their charters or other organizational goal statements.
Those governments are not stopping Chik-fil-a from doing business on private property, or from choosing to donate to those groups. They are saying that public land and facilities will not be used to provide the opportunity for that funding. They don't really have a choice, under the law as it stands.
So, the answers are, at least one of the following would have to happen:
The groups would have to stop advocating anti-LGBTQ actions and agendas.
Or
Chik-fil-a would.have to stop funding them.
Or
The laws against hate speech and discrimination would have to change.
After any one of those, Chik-fil-a could then be allowed to operate on public property. But the situation now, these public entities are making the correct legal decision.
Decent argument and you do have some valid points but there are opposing positions. There is a view that the government is violating Chick-fil-A's religious liberty when it banned the fast food chain from its airport and possible free speech issue.
The Texas AG is intending to investigate San Antonio airports decision:(just a couple links)
Texas attorney general investigating San Antonio's decision to ban Chick-fil-A from city's airport
https://www.wcpo.com/news/national/texas-attorney-general-investigating-san-antonios-decision-to-ban-chick-fil-a-from-citys-airport
Texas Attorney General investigating San Antonio for banning Chick-fil-A from airport
https://www.wacotrib.com/news/texas-attorney-general-investigating-san-antonio-for-banning-chick-fil/article_14ae677b-13c6-550b-b91e-96df0c5714cd.html
It’s about punishment for anyone who doesn’t think the same way they do about almost everything in life, from politics to religion.
It’s like they want to gag anyone who disagrees with them.
Quote: MintyThat's pretty gross, and Chick-fil-A should definitely not be allowed there if they are paying in pubes. Hahahahaha.
Thanks for the proofread. Eyesight bad at my age.
Quote: BozIt’s just another example of what many said all along. The “gay” movement was never about equality, they have it in every way and there is no threat of that changing.
It’s about punishment for anyone who doesn’t think the same way they do about almost everything in life, from politics to religion.
It’s like they want to gag anyone who disagrees with them.
Take the words "It's like" out of the last sentence.
When I'm traveling, and stuck in an airport for hours on end, I really don't care about the politics of the shops owners, or that of those who serve me. I do care if they are open or not. The proposal calls for a food court open seven days a week. Not six, not five.
Why does one business get to choose it's hours when the proposal sets them differently? How about the rights of people traveling on Sundays? Workers at the airport ? No food for them every Sunday?
Quote: billryanDidn't take long for this thread to be infected. Good job.
When I'm traveling, and stuck in an airport for hours on end, I really don't care about the politics of the shops owners, or that of those who serve me. I do care if they are open or not. The proposal calls for a food court open seven days a week. Not six, not five.
Why does one business get to choose it's hours when the proposal sets them differently? How about the rights of people traveling on Sundays? Workers at the airport ? No food for them every Sunday?
I used to work with a guy who managed a mall store. His store got fined by the hour if they were not open.
However, most malls have a store or two that is not open on Sunday. A former mall by me had Chick-Fil-A closed on Sunday and for years a religious book store. I assume it was in their lease somehow.
Now, if the airport requires seven-day-a-week hours, then they could deny the lease. This is not why they denied it. As to "no food on Sunday" there are other concessions to choose from. You can be sure that if the rent is based on percent of sales that the Chick-Fil-A would easily pay more than the places open all 7 days, same as the average Chick-Fil-A does more business by far than the average McDonald's.
Quote: billryanDidn't take long for this thread to be infected. Good job.
When I'm traveling, and stuck in an airport for hours on end, I really don't care about the politics of the shops owners, or that of those who serve me. I do care if they are open or not. The proposal calls for a food court open seven days a week. Not six, not five.
Why does one business get to choose it's hours when the proposal sets them differently? How about the rights of people traveling on Sundays? Workers at the airport ? No food for them every Sunday?
Meh, a food court is multiple businesses, there are several other choices for travelers on a Sunday. If they want to pay full rent to be closed on Sundays, let them.
Quote: tringlomaneMeh, a food court is multiple businesses, there are several other choices for travelers on a Sunday. If they want to pay full rent to be closed on Sundays, let them.
I somewhat disagree. If there are 100 people trying to eat at 5 places then there are 20 people in line. If there are only 4 then there are 25 people in line. Them being closed directly affects me.
Quote: GWAEI somewhat disagree. If there are 100 people trying to eat at 5 places then there are 20 people in line. If there are only 4 then there are 25 people in line. Them being closed directly affects me.
I disagree sort of. The airport concessionaires probably/almost certainly sign agreements about what hours they will be available, and I would expect them to keep those hours. But I've flown several hundred times the last 30 years, and even in the biggest airports, there are hardly any restaurants open 24/7.
Fly a red-eye, or zero-dark-thirty, which I have probably close to half the time, and most places your choices are vending machines and maybe a gift shop or newsstand with a cooler. That's even major airports like Atlanta, certainly mid-level like Wash DC or MSP.
It would not surprise me to find that Chik-fil-a is open more hours per week than most airport restaurants. They serve breakfast into late nights. Perhaps 6a to 11p, more weekly hours than Starbucks, most bars with food, most better restsurants, most lunch counters, fast food without breakfast like Wendy's or Panda Express. So I don't see where they have to be open on Sunday just to be equitable. Inconvenient, and a bit arrogant yes. But not inequitable.
Quote: AZDuffman.
OTOH, the Obama Admin sued Boeing for OPENING a new plant, because it was in a RTW state. So this stuff goes to the highest level.
Fake news.
"Haley said Obama and his National Labor Relations Board sued Boeing over its decision to open a plant in South Carolina.
This oversimplifies a complex set of practices and relationships. The practices of the NLRB keep it many steps away from the president. In keeping with that process, the board members themselves did not take any action regarding Boeing. Obama’s greatest influence on the NLRB in this case can be found in his temporary appointment of the NLRB general counsel. The counsel decided to bring the case before an administrative judge.
Haley refers to the government suing, whereas the process is best described as a hearing in which the NLRB represents the interests of the party making the complaint."
AZDuffman’s unending whining about how those mean liberals treat Chick Fil A
Quote: ams288It’s time to rename this thread to:
AZDuffman’s unending whining about how those mean liberals treat Chick Fil A
Godwin's Law says that the longer an argument goes on, the greater the chance that someone will bring up Hitler or the Nazis.
We need a "Duffman's Law" that says the longer an argument goes on, the greater the chance that AZ will bring up liberals or race for no reason.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: ams288It’s time to rename this thread to:
AZDuffman’s unending whining about how those mean liberals treat Chick Fil A
Godwin's Law says that the longer an argument goes on, the greater the chance that someone will bring up Hitler or the Nazis.
We need a "Duffman's Law" that says the longer an argument goes on, the greater the chance that AZ will bring up liberals or race for no reason.
What "no reason?" It is open knowledge that Chick-Fil-A is high on the liberal hate list. Sorry, but pointing out liberal behavior, well, nothing wrong with that. Since the lamestream media does not show the truth.
Quote: TigerWuFake news.
"Haley said Obama and his National Labor Relations Board sued Boeing over its decision to open a plant in South Carolina.
This oversimplifies a complex set of practices and relationships. The practices of the NLRB keep it many steps away from the president. In keeping with that process, the board members themselves did not take any action regarding Boeing. Obama’s greatest influence on the NLRB in this case can be found in his temporary appointment of the NLRB general counsel. The counsel decided to bring the case before an administrative judge.
Haley refers to the government suing, whereas the process is best described as a hearing in which the NLRB represents the interests of the party making the complaint."
So, like I said, the Obama Administration sued Boeing for OPENING a plant and creating jobs.
Quote: beachbumbabsI disagree sort of. The airport concessionaires probably/almost certainly sign agreements about what hours they will be available, and I would expect them to keep those hours. But I've flown several hundred times the last 30 years, and even in the biggest airports, there are hardly any restaurants open 24/7.
Fly a red-eye, or zero-dark-thirty, which I have probably close to half the time, and most places your choices are vending machines and maybe a gift shop or newsstand with a cooler. That's even major airports like Atlanta, certainly mid-level like Wash DC or MSP.
It would not surprise me to find that Chik-fil-a is open more hours per week than most airport restaurants. They serve breakfast into late nights. Perhaps 6a to 11p, more weekly hours than Starbucks, most bars with food, most better restsurants, most lunch counters, fast food without breakfast like Wendy's or Panda Express. So I don't see where they have to be open on Sunday just to be equitable. Inconvenient, and a bit arrogant yes. But not inequitable.
but fly a Sunday Morning in some airports and you better eat before you get there because demand is overwhelming.
Quote: GWAEseriously why does EVERYTHING turn political with some of you.
Many people see everything in the world as an us-versus-them mentality. Then add to that so many people seeing political ideology as the most defining thing in their life
Quote: RonCI've criticized a lot of different things on my side but I don't really see a lot of it from the other side.
You don't see it because you're ignoring it.
It's called selection bias.
Quote: TomGMany people see everything in the world as an us-versus-them mentality. Then add to that so many people seeing political ideology as the most defining thing in their life
I guess I just dont get it. I literally dont think of anything relating to politics. I dont even know what left and right means. When it comes to chick filet, the guy doesnt like lg..... and is religious none of that means politics. He just has his views.
One can only assume some want benefits for illegals in their city.
Always like him on Match Game talking in rhyme.
Quote: BozI thought Nipsey Russell died years ago, imagine my shock hearing he was shot yesterday.
Always like him on Match Game talking in rhyme.
Nipsy HUSTLE the rapper
Not Nipsy Russell the game show celeb
Quote: BozSimple question. Why are liberals so scared about a citizenship question being on the 2020 census?
One can only assume some want benefits for illegals in their city.
The census is not supposed to be a measurement of how many LEGAL citizens there are but how many people live in a given area period.
I can think of many basic services that illegals should qualify for.
Example: an illegal is struck by a car. Ambulance called. You dont suggest services for that response cost money, the illegal should be left to die in the street.
And yes, incarceration of illegals also would cost money.
Imagine the irony if local jails have to release illegals because they lost funding due to the census requirement that citizenship must be answered
Quote: darkoz
I can think of many basic services that illegals should qualify for.
There are no services they should qualify for other than jail, where we put our citizens that commit crimes, or deportation. Illegals are criminals by nature if undocumented so they give any rights to freedom up, like any other criminal.
And yes, I support fines and jail for those who employee them, as that is a crime as well.
Shut the border, and declare Mexico an enemy if they refuse to deal with the problem at their Southern Border.
Liberals see future Dem voters, I see criminals. No different than the guy who shot Nipsey Russell yesterday.
Quote: BozAnd yes, I support fines and jail for those who employee them, as that is a crime as well.
LOCK TR**P UP!!!
Welcome to the Resistance, Boz.
**Forgot the title of this thread so I censored You Know Who’s name.
Quote: BozThere are no services they should qualify for other than jail, where we put our citizens that commit crimes, or deportation. Illegals are criminals by nature if undocumented so they give any rights to freedom up, like any other criminal.
And yes, I support fines and jail for those who employee them, as that is a crime as well.
Shut the border, and declare Mexico an enemy if they refuse to deal with the problem at their Southern Border.
Liberals see future Dem voters, I see criminals. No different than the guy who shot Nipsey Russell yesterday.
Nobody shot Nipsey Russell yesterday. Nipsey Russell died years ago.
So you dont mind a Mexican illegal body blocking traffic after being run over in the street because you dont feel they should have any medical services! Got your message loud n clear.
I suppose you feel white men have license to rape illegal immigrant women because we shouldn't waste resources on police investigations of crimes committed against illegals. They gave up that right when they came here?
BTW - regardless of criminality, in the USA criminals do not give up their basic rights to medical emergency services. You say they are criminals and dont deserve those? So an American citizen who commits a crime gives up the right to medical emergency care and police protection because they committed a crime?
BTW. the census is not allowed to release any info to anyone including the president. They will release statistical data 2 years after each census for funding and for the amount of elected officials in each area. I am not sure why they even need it on the form to begin with.
Quote: BozSimple question. Why are liberals so scared about a citizenship question being on the 2020 census?
One can only assume some want benefits for illegals in their city.
I think it has more to do with they do not want people to know how many illegal aliens are living among us.
Same as they are so scared about requiring ID to vote.
Quote: GWAEI was an assistant manager at the Pittsburgh census office in 2010. I ran the division that went looking for homeless people to make sure they were counted. Getting everyone counted is important for many reasons and they mostly revolve around funding. It was hard enough to track people down, it was even tougher to get them to answer questions once we did track them down. During the final phase I ran the department that tracked the irregularities in reports. I can not imagine how many of these there would be if there was an illegal question on it. My point is, if that question is added then it is going to cause the numbers to be way off. Not only will the illegals just not answer but people who think the question is wrong will also not answer.
BTW. the census is not allowed to release any info to anyone including the president. They will release statistical data 2 years after each census for funding and for the amount of elected officials in each area. I am not sure why they even need it on the form to begin with.
Again, big difference between counting homeless America citizens, who deserve benefits and illegals criminals who only exist to drain taxpayer dollars. Only thing worse is garbage like Philadelphia Mayor Big Jim Kenney who is working to cheat the government.
Quote: BozSorry, thought I heard some people on the news saying how sad it was Mr Russell was shot yesterday. He seemed like such a nice funny man with his poems and rhymes, I couldn’t understand why someone would shoot him. They should have just let him live out his remaining years in peace.
Are you purposely feigning ignorance?
Nipsey Hustle is the name of a rapper
He was shot n killed yesterday
Nipsey Russell is the name of a comedian and game show celeb. He died of natural causes many years ago
Quote: BozAgain, big difference between counting homeless America citizens, who deserve benefits and illegals criminals who only exist to drain taxpayer dollars. Only thing worse is garbage like Philadelphia Mayor Big Jim Kenney who is working to cheat the government.
So are you saying they should ask the question? Then what? disqualify the form because they are? If none of the other agencies are allowed to use the answers then what purpose does it serve?
My guess is once it is on there, they will fight to make the president be able to see the results. I think it is the constitution that governs the census so not sure they would ever get the answers unsealed.
Quote: GWAESo are you saying they should ask the question? Then what? disqualify the form because they are? If none of the other agencies are allowed to use the answers then what purpose does it serve?
My guess is once it is on there, they will fight to make the president be able to see the results. I think it is the constitution that governs the census so not sure they would ever get the answers unsealed.
If we are talking constitutionality then the only allowable question should be how many people live in a residence.
Quote: darkozAre you purposely feigning ignorance?
Nipsey Hustle is the name of a rapper
He was shot n killed yesterday
Nipsey Russell is the name of a comedian and game show celeb. He died of natural causes many years ago
Wait? There was a rapper named Nipsey Hustle? And he got shot? And that’s news?
He obviously wasn’t going to die of natural causes in that profession. Let me guess, he was a former gangster who “turned his life around”.
What a disrespect to the late great Nipsey Russell, using a takeoff of his name. I’m going to reach and say Hustle wasn’t his birthname.
So just to get this straight, Mr Russell didn’t get shot yesterday, correct?
Quote: AZDuffmanIf we are talking constitutionality then the only allowable question should be how many people live in a residence.
That is a good point..
Quote: BozWait? There was a rapper named Nipsey Hustle? And he got shot? And that’s news?
He obviously wasn’t going to die of natural causes in that profession. Let me guess, he was a former gangster who “turned his life around”.
What a disrespect to the late great Nipsey Russell, using a takeoff of his name. I’m going to reach and say Hustle wasn’t his birthname.
So just to get this straight, Mr Russell didn’t get shot yesterday, correct?
Nothing I stated about Nipsey Russell vs Hustle was an April fools joke
Mr. Russell died years ago
Mr. Hustle real name Ermias Asghedom died yesterday
Quote: TigerWuYou don't see it because you're ignoring it.
It's called selection bias.
I don't see it here because it doesn't happen very much here. I have done it here more than a few times.
I apologize for leaving the statement overly broad; I was talking more about members who comment here and not about the whole world in general.
Quote: BozI thought Nipsey Russell died years ago, imagine my shock hearing he was shot yesterday.
He's 101, they shot a dead guy?
Quote: BozWait? There was a rapper named Nipsey Hustle? And he got shot? And that’s news?
He obviously wasn’t going to die of natural causes in that profession. Let me guess, he was a former gangster who “turned his life around”.
What a disrespect to the late great Nipsey Russell, using a takeoff of his name. I’m going to reach and say Hustle wasn’t his birthname.
So just to get this straight, Mr Russell didn’t get shot yesterday, correct?
When I heard Nipsey Hustle.
My 1st thought was who? and what ever happened to Nipsey Russell?
I never heard of the Hustle guy before but from the news reports, seemed like a real cool guy trying to help others.
Need more like him in the world, RIP.
As to the real Nipsey :-) Passed away. I don't remember much of him except being a funny game show celebrity. Hmm, was he famous before game shows or game shows made him? Do game shows make you great?
Quote: terapinedWhen I heard Nipsey Hustle.
My 1st thought was who? and what ever happened to Nipsey Russell?
I never heard of the Hustle guy before but from the news reports, seemed like a real cool guy trying to help others.
Need more like him in the world, RIP.
As to the real Nipsey :-) Passed away. I don't remember much of him except being a funny game show celebrity. Hmm, was he famous before game shows or game shows made him? Do game shows make you great?
Nipsy Russell was a longtime comedian actor and musician
He also played the Tin Man in the 1976 "The Wiz"
As far as REAL news goes, check out Elon Musk’s new rap about that dumb an hero monkey, Harambe.
Quote: ams288LOCK TR**P UP!!!
Welcome to the Resistance, Boz.
**Forgot the title of this thread so I censored You Know Who’s name.
The Resistance has their work cut out for themselves....lol
#DONJR2024
Sorry to see anyone injured, but it’s nice to see people still remembered Nipsey. I would assume it’s from all the reruns of Match Gane still playing.
And it appears someone from the Obama administration is involved in Mr Russell’s shooting.
https://people.com/music/police-name-suspect-nipsey-hussle-murder-eric-holder/
yet the NRA disagrees
WTF
Take domestic violence.
Beating up a women is totally disgusting, just a small step from beating up a child.
Its against the law
You get convicted as an adult of beating up a women or child, no guns
Yet the NRA disagrees
disgusting
