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Is salmon and other fish/seafood okay? Green vegetables? Fruits? Legumes? Nuts? Chicken? Turkey? Non-green vegetables? What else?
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Quote: EvenBobMy new favorite meal tilapia and veggies cooked in instant Pot. Fish was frozen and it comes out moist and tender every time in 2 minutes.
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https://draxe.com/nutrition/fish-you-should-never-eat/
17 Fish You Should Never Eat, Plus Safer Seafood Options
Number 1: Tilapia
Did you know that in some regards, eating tilapia is worse than eating bacon? In fact, the shift to eating more farmed fish like tilapia is leading to highly inflammatory diets, according to a 2008 study published in the Journal of the American Dietetic Association.
Wake Forest University School of Medicine researchers say tilapia is one of the most widely consumed fish in America. The problem with that? It contains very low levels of beneficial omega-3 fatty acids and, perhaps worse, very high levels of inflammatory omega-6 fatty acids. Sustaining high levels of inflammation in the body can worsen symptoms of autoimmune disorders and may be linked to chronic conditions like heart disease, cancer and diabetes.
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17 Fish You Should Never Eat, Plus Safer Seafood Option
https://draxe.com/nutrition/fish-you-should-never-eat/
Only if their tilapia comes from bad fish farms. The tilapia I eat comes from a fish farm in Mexico where the fish are treated well and are not diseased like they are in some other countries.
"Tilapia contains the essential fatty acids omega-3 and omega-6. Omega-3 fatty acids contribute to heart health, vision, and joint strength..There are more omega-6 fatty acids in tilapia than omega-3 fatty acids. However, the total fat content in a tilapia fillet is low, so a person will only consume a small quantity of omega-6 when they eat the fish.
Although not as high in omega-3 fat as salmon or tuna, tilapia is still considered heart-healthy. It is low in saturated fat and has only 30 calories per ounce"
Another tasty healthy low saturated fat meal.
inspired me to eat oatmeal for breakfast. I would add two
poached eggs over milk toast with the oatmeal for the ultra
fantastic carbohydrate breakfast. What an idiot I was.
The fattest time of my life.
Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy diet FOR LARGELY SEDENTARY people but the assumption that everyone is mostly sedentary or suggestion that they should be cuz low carb good, all carbs bad is rather ridiculous.
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Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy .
No they aren't. High-fat diets are not healthy no matter who you are. This is a fantasy preached by the low carb diet crowd. Eat as much fat as you want they say, it's fine. No, it's not. It is still all about calories in calories out.
But if you're not burning it up the same day, that can become a problem. And further, if you're eating carbs without fat or protein, you're causing sugar spikes that your body has to deal with. You could stress your body everyday with carbs even if you're eating a low calorie diet. Say if you ate your whole daily carbs in one meal. Horrible choice, even if you're doing weight loss.
IMO of course.

This is a shout-out to EvenBob.... In the spirit of adventure...Quote: EvenBobNever made this before.
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Though most of your meals are super nutritious, never give up trying new recipes.
I commend to you two of England's most loved chefs. They promote healthy eating while making food to savour.
I give you The Hairy Bikers
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hairy+bikers
They're not Keto by any stretch, but they explore British and World cuisine with Joie de Vivre.
Live to eat Or eat to live. Why not do both?
Quote: EvenBobNever made this before. Chicken meatballs made with sauteed celery onion and green pepper along with cubes of bread and spices like coriander and cumin and poultry seasoning in the food processor. Mix in a couple eggs and cooked chicken and baked in the oven. Came out surprisingly good, I will make this again. They taste like dense chicken stuffing meatballs. Alongside is cabbage cooked in beef broth in the pressure cooker. Comes out very sweet and tender.]
The original recipe call for these to be fried but I don't fry things anymore. I don't need the fat and calories. So I bake them and they tasted just as good. We eat food for how it tastes not for how it looks.
This is what they look like fried.

Now they look delightful.Quote: EvenBobThe original recipe call for these to be fried but I don't fry things anymore. I don't need the fat and calories. So I bake them and they tasted just as good. We eat food for how it tastes not for how it looks.
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This is what they look like fried.
A few years ago, I did 'The Ration Challenge' where I had little more than minimal rations for a week. The most treasured ration was 330ml of oil, followed by the 400g of flour.
That was the source of most calories, frying was the only thing that made all the other stuff edible.
Here was my ration for 7 whole days. By day 3 I would have killed for anything with flavour. I eventually qualified to add chilli powder, and 4 tea bags..... The only beverage was water. No milk, beer or juice. No Greens. No fruit.
400g can of kidney beans
170g dried red lentils
1.9kg rice
85g dried chickpeas
1 small 90g can of sardines
330ml veg oil
400g flour
Quote: OnceDearI eventually qualified to add chilli powder.
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400g can of kidney beans
170g dried red lentils
1.9kg rice
85g dried chickpeas
1 small 90g can of sardines
330ml veg oil
400g flour
(sigh) No SALT?
Good on you for the charity awareness challenge, but I'm going to go restock my salt supplies.
I had to hit a fundraising threshold to be allowed salt. It took me 3 days of intense headaches to get there.Quote: DieterQuote: OnceDearI eventually qualified to add chilli powder.
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400g can of kidney beans
170g dried red lentils
1.9kg rice
85g dried chickpeas
1 small 90g can of sardines
330ml veg oil
400g flour
(sigh) No SALT?
Good on you for the charity awareness challenge, but I'm going to go restock my salt supplies.link to original post
Oddly, hunger wasn't an issue because there were plenty of calories. but flavour. I craved flavour of any sort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5l26Fs0LI&t=43s
A couple of fried eggs, toast... a bowl of noodle soup... more takeout chinese food than I should have.
The daughter went with fried quail eggs; she thinks they're cute. I stuck with the boring chicken eggs.

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Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy .
No they aren't. High-fat diets are not healthy no matter who you are. This is a fantasy preached by the low carb diet crowd. Eat as much fat as you want they say, it's fine. No, it's not. It is still all about calories in calories out.link to original post
If this isn’t textbook blatant intentionally misquoting, snipping/manipulating and taking a quote out of context I don’t know that I’ve ever seen it.
I had literally just pointed out in the post he snipped it from that it was calories in calories out not the fact he ate grain and then he immediately snips a very small portion of my post completely out of context of what is both before and after it in order to debunk it by saying the same thing I had just said in the post he blatantly miss/selectively quoted.
Quote: OnceDearNow they look delightful.Quote: EvenBobThe original recipe call for these to be fried but I don't fry things anymore. I don't need the fat and calories. So I bake them and they tasted just as good. We eat food for how it tastes not for how it looks.
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This is what they look like fried.
A few years ago, I did 'The Ration Challenge' where I had little more than minimal rations for a week. The most treasured ration was 330ml of oil, followed by the 400g of flour.
That was the source of most calories, frying was the only thing that made all the other stuff edible.
Here was my ration for 7 whole days. By day 3 I would have killed for anything with flavour. I eventually qualified to add chilli powder, and 4 tea bags..... The only beverage was water. No milk, beer or juice. No Greens. No fruit.
400g can of kidney beans
170g dried red lentils
1.9kg rice
85g dried chickpeas
1 small 90g can of sardines
330ml veg oil
400g flourlink to original post
What about the 1900 g rice? If that is dry rice, than that is about 3.70 calories/g, which is close to or higher than the 3.3-3.7calories/g flour. But you have more rice than flour by a factor 4.7X.
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Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy .
No they aren't. High-fat diets are not healthy no matter who you are. This is a fantasy preached by the low carb diet crowd. Eat as much fat as you want they say, it's fine. No, it's not. It is still all about calories in calories out.link to original post
If this isn’t textbook blatant intentionally misquoting, snipping/manipulating and taking a quote out of context I don’t know that I’ve ever seen it.link to original post
Indeed.
EvenBob, misquoting, 30 15 days.
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What about the 1900 g rice? If that is dry rice, than that is about 3.70 calories/g, which is close to or higher than the 3.3-3.7calories/g flour. But you have more rice than flour by a factor 4.7X.
I think I get about 1 go a day for about 6 days from my 900g sacks, although if I'm having a bit more than rice, I drop it down to around 2/3rd that and get around 9 days.
Unfortunately, my western palate desperately craves some form of salt with it, usually a sprinkle of broth powder in while it cooks.
You are right that the rice was indeed aboult 7000 calories compared to 3000 for the oil and 1400 for the flour. Yes. the rice dominated. I stand corrected.Quote: gordonm888Quote: OnceDearlink to original post
A few years ago, I did 'The Ration Challenge' where I had little more than minimal rations for a week. The most treasured ration was 330ml of oil, followed by the 400g of flour.
That was the source of most calories, frying was the only thing that made all the other stuff edible.
Here was my ration for 7 whole days. By day 3 I would have killed for anything with flavour. I eventually qualified to add chilli powder, and 4 tea bags..... The only beverage was water. No milk, beer or juice. No Greens. No fruit.
400g can of kidney beans
170g dried red lentils
1.9kg rice
85g dried chickpeas
1 small 90g can of sardines
330ml veg oil
400g flour
What about the 1900 g rice? If that is dry rice, than that is about 3.70 calories/g, which is close to or higher than the 3.3-3.7calories/g flour. But you have more rice than flour by a factor 4.7X.link to original post
The rice was actually way more than enough and I had over a quarter of it left after the week. But Jeez. I was sick to the back teeth of boiled rice. I'd have fried a cardboard box rather than eat one more bowl of rice porridge. With the oil and flour, I invented what I called 'drizzle chips' made by frying drizzles of batter. plenty of calories and not unpleasant. I also battered and fried a sardine to make fish and chips $:o)
ps. Surprised and saddened to see EvenBob suspended here, this most uncontroversial of threads..
I agree with OnceDear here. I understand Dieter can have an opinion, but personally I don't even think EvenBob deserved a warning!Quote: OnceDearps. Surprised and saddened to see EvenBob suspended here, this most uncontroversial of threads..
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I mean he didn't change any words. He was just focusing on two sentences, and I don't think we should be presuming he left the other sentences out to change any meaning in what 'EvenBob' was trying to say.
From someone who posts here regularly myself, I think 15 days is even way too much. My two cents only, Dieter
😃stays the same. Always hungry! Went to another forum. Wonder if people can find me? MDawg knows.Quote: Marcusclark66Hey Wellbush, when you were on suspension does your appetite get greater or is it less?
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That's the thing about 'unfair' suspensions - people can go elsewhere and just may never return! Good grief!
Anyway, back to real appetite eh?
Quote: WellbushI agree with OnceDear here. I understand Dieter can have an opinion, but personally I don't even think EvenBob deserved a warning!Quote: OnceDearps. Surprised and saddened to see EvenBob suspended here, this most uncontroversial of threads..
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I mean he didn't change any words. He was just focusing on two sentences, and I don't think we should be presuming he left the other sentences out to change any meaning in what 'EvenBob' was trying to say.
From someone who posts here regularly myself, I think 15 days is even way too much. My two cents only, Dieterlink to original post
The quote was edited to substantially change the meaning from the original. Something over 75% of the original was omitted.
As you clearly said, unedited, you don't even think a warning was deserved.
2 cents doesn't buy much when a pack of smokes is $24 and the smallest coin is an echidna.
Well I agree with Dieter. He was right to suspend and he was right to reconsider the penalty down to 15. I'd have given 14 but same ball park.Quote:I agree with OnceDear here. I understand Dieter can have an opinion, but personally I don't even think EvenBob deserved a warning!Quote: OnceDearps. Surprised and saddened to see EvenBob suspended here, this most uncontroversial of threads..
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From someone who posts here regularly myself, I think 15 days is even way too much. My two cents only, Dieterlink to original post
EB has been here long enough to know the score.
Wellbush, you too should be wise to the score by now. If you want to discuss the suspension, we have a thread for that.
Quote: WellbushI agree with OnceDear here. I understand Dieter can have an opinion, but personally I don't even think EvenBob deserved a warning!Quote: OnceDearps. Surprised and saddened to see EvenBob suspended here, this most uncontroversial of threads..
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I mean he didn't change any words. He was just focusing on two sentences, and I don't think we should be presuming he left the other sentences out to change any meaning in what 'EvenBob' was trying to say.
From someone who posts here regularly myself, I think 15 days is even way too much. My two cents only, Dieterlink to original post
Gotta 2nd this. All I see was EB saying how the low carb crowd thinks fat is not a problem. Unless I am missing something.
And when there’s rules and regulations in place they need to be followed.
I do it all the time. It’s very common practice on Internet forums.
Quote: gamerfreakI always thought quoting a portion of a quote was allowed as long as it doesn’t change the intent or remove too much context.
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I do it all the time. It’s very common practice on Internet forums.
Yes, when you only want or need to quote part it makes the post less busy.
Quote: Marcusclark66All I can say is rules and regulations.
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And when there’s rules and regulations in place they need to be followed.
Quote: gamerfreakI always thought quoting a portion of a quote was allowed as long as it doesn’t change the intent or remove too much context.
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I do it all the time. It’s very common practice on Internet forums.
There is NO DOUBT that EB deserved ZERO suspension for the post in question. Frankly, the forum is much ‘cleaner’ when you only quote the relevant part of a post you are replying to. I always try to be clear and CONCISE.
I had Weiner Schnitzel, cabbage, potato pancakes, and Coke slaw (substituted for apple sauce). Washed down with a Guinness. It’s an Irish restaurant that had Oktoberfest specials. Pretty common here in Buffalo.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: Marcusclark66All I can say is rules and regulations.
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And when there’s rules and regulations in place they need to be followed.
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Yes sir. Rules and Regulations. Great find there!
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: gamerfreakI always thought quoting a portion of a quote was allowed as long as it doesn’t change the intent or remove too much context.
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I do it all the time. It’s very common practice on Internet forums.
There is NO DOUBT that EB deserved ZERO suspension for the post in question. Frankly, the forum is much ‘cleaner’ when you only quote the relevant part of a post you are replying to. I always try to be clear and CONCISE.
I had Weiner Schnitzel, cabbage, potato pancakes, and Coke slaw (substituted for apple sauce). Washed down with a Guinness. It’s an Irish restaurant that had Oktoberfest specials. Pretty common here in Buffalo.link to original post
I was about to edit this post, before responding. But I'll leave it intact. : }
I leave whole posts intact if the conversation is, or likely to be perceived as contentious. Not just to show I didn't change intent. But if I perceive it to be a rather benign exchange, I shorten for brevity and clarity..
(at least on this board: not so much on its cousin)
Quote: gamerfreakI always thought quoting a portion of a post was allowed as long as it doesn’t change the intent or remove too much context.
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I do it all the time. It’s very common practice on Internet forums.
Yes, so long as the original context or meaning isn't lost.
I believe that going from
Quote: mcallister3200Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy diet FOR LARGELY SEDENTARY people but the assumption that everyone is mostly sedentary or suggestion that they should be cuz low carb good, all carbs bad is rather ridiculous.
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To
Quote: mcallister3200link to original post
Very low carb, high healthy fat diets are quite healthy .
Does, in fact, change the context and meaning by removing an essential caveat from the original.
And there's a thread for this.
Meanwhile, I had a bologna sandwich.
If you also include the paragraph above the paragraph that was misquoted, even moreso taken out of context imo.
Darn, I wanted to ask EvenBob about some seasoning but he’s not around anymore.
Evenbob still hangs out over on the DT forumQuote: Marcusclark66Borscht soup with sour cream dollops and asparagus and a side of grilled liver stuffed egg rolls.
Darn, I wanted to ask EvenBob about some seasoning but he’s not around anymore.
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Ok thanks.
Quote: melisaberntsIch war eine ganze Woche auf Diät, deshalb habe ich heute beschlossen, ein Lachssteak mit Gemüse zu essen. Nach einer Woche Buchweizendiät erschien mir dieses Gericht sehr lecker.
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Maybe it’s EvenBob giving his apology?
Quote: melisaberntsIch war eine ganze Woche auf Diät, deshalb habe ich heute beschlossen, ein Lachssteak mit Gemüse zu essen. Nach einer Woche Buchweizendiät erschien mir dieses Gericht sehr lecker.
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Translation:
I was on a diet for a whole week so today I decided to have a salmon steak with vegetables. After a week of buckwheat diet, this dish seemed very tasty to me.
*burp*
Thanks for asking!