Your secret is safe. 😉Quote: RSWho cares if Nathan is a guy, girl, Kentry, or a bot? I guess a better question is WHY does anyone care?
It's no secret that the Member 'Nathan' has declared on this forum that her real name is KarenQuote: FinsRuleWho the heck is Karen?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/28330-bad-casino-giveaways/25/#post581336
I have no reason to doubt her word on that point.
Quote: GWAEI think the only way to confirm that it is her is to reinstate WON and let him confirm that is who he saw.
Quote: WizardofnothingShe sent it and it 1000000 percent was. Not the person I saw
WizardOfNothing has no good standing on this forum. His observations and opinions are of no value. What he chooses to post on some other forum is between him and that forum. Again, of no consequence here.Quote: Nathan
Quite why Nathan quotes WON asserting that she is not who she claims is a complete mystery to me.
Quote: OnceDearWizardOfNothing has no good standing on this forum. His observations and opinions are of no value. What he chooses to post on some other forum is between him and that forum. Again, of no consequence here.
Quite why Nathan quotes WON asserting that she is not who she claims is a complete mystery to me.
He said it HERE about me not being the woman he saw. I quoted what WON said because someone asked if he could be reinstated to answer if it was me he saw at Gulfstream Park. ;)
Right, I see the post you mention.Quote: NathanHe said it HERE about me not being the woman he saw. I quoted what WON said because someone asked if he could be reinstated to answer if it was me he saw at Gulfstream Park. ;)
So the ex-member, who seems to dislike Nathan, has asserted that the person who presented herself as Nathan is not the same as the image of Nathan that Nathan has confirmed is a true image of Nathan.
Oh wow. What a pointless exercise.
What WON asserts to be 100000% fact is not to be taken as fact because he has no standing on this forum.
But similarly, we might suppose that some assertions of other members who are in good standing here, are 'alternative facts'
Nathan, if you want this silly speculation put to bed, then please do so.You have it in your power.
Quote: WizardThis must be a trick question. I won't even put it in spoiler tags because "steep" seems so obvious.
This probably isn't what you're thinking, but an obvious way to get up a hill steeper than your abilities is to traverse it (zig zag up it a reduced incline). So "narrow" is another possibility.
One thing on my bucket list, that I'll probably never accomplish, is to unicycle up Lombard Street in San Francisco.
I'll meet you there this October. I buy the beers if you succeed....
Quote: WizardMay I suggest having a shot taken you're proud of and sending it to me to post? Please hold something that says "I love WoV."
For us skeptics, that person could be real but not the actual poster. They could get that other person to hold up a sign.
ZCore13
Quote: OnceDearWizardOfNothing has no good standing on this forum. His observations and opinions are of no value. What he chooses to post on some other forum is between him and that forum. Again, of no consequence here.
Quite why Nathan quotes WON asserting that she is not who she claims is a complete mystery to me.
At the time that was posted, WoN was a member in good standing. I don't think his subsequent boot necessarily means everything he said then was a lie or of no value.
Regardless of topic or pertinence to this particular thread, and regardless of whether this particular statement is true or not, I think the logic is flawed.
I also think it's a bit... "convenient" ... might be the word, that Nathan can't seem to manage the imgur account that is the actual host for the picture.
Funny how these roadblocks keep cropping up. A steep hill to climb, I guess.
Quote: GWAEFor us skeptics, that person could be real but not the actual poster. They could get that other person to hold up a sign.
That's true. This is a very skeptical forum, and I like that, but skepticism can be taken to a ridiculous extreme sometimes.
I'd also like to add that nobody is ever required to prove their identity here. If Nathan wishes to remain an enigma, that is completely fine.
Quote: beachbumbabsAt the time that was posted, WoN was a member in good standing. I don't think his subsequent boot necessarily means everything he said then was a lie or of no value.
That might be true if he wasn't a known scam artist and criminal as well.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13That might be true if he wasn't a known scam artist and criminal as well.
ZCore13
Yeah, I'm taking that into account as well. My question is the logic of discounting something someone said 6 months or so before they were banned, just because they were banned.
One of the complexities of parsing known liars, I guess.
I take your criticism of my flawed logic as correct. Thanks.Quote: beachbumbabsYeah, I'm taking that into account as well. My question is the logic of discounting something someone said 6 months or so before they were banned, just because they were banned.
One of the complexities of parsing known liars, I guess.
Taking all that we know of WON, including his hostility to Nathan, I'll suggest that his historic assertion, at a time where he was proving to be... Well whatever he was proving to be... is of diminished value rather than of no value. Nathan's quoting his assertion was odd and I doubt it added much to the thread.
Anyhow, I'm through caring about Nathan's gender or identity. How many times have we bumped this silly thread just because of such speculation? Rhetorical.
Quote: beachbumbabsYeah, I'm taking that into account as well. My question is the logic of discounting something someone said 6 months or so before they were banned, just because they were banned.
One of the complexities of parsing known liars, I guess.
As the old saying goes, what a tangled web we weave...
Also, You never get a 2nd chance to make a 1st impression.
ZCore13
Quote: AdminImage redacted by management for reasons that it mentioned what is possibly Nathan's real name, which she has never disclosed here as far as I know. Also for general reasons of bringing controversy from other forums/sites here.
Warning issued for not respecting privacy.
Quote: gamerfreakFWIW...here are the comments/dates of the Imgur post of Nathan. I also did a reverse image search and nothing turned up.
Admin who redacted. She did say what her name was at one point.
Quote: GWAEAdmin who redacted. She did say what her name was at one point.
Can you show me where?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/28330-bad-casino-giveaways/25/#post581336Quote: WizardCan you show me where?
She has also confirmed on this forum that that likeness is her
She has.Quote: gamerfreakSorry, I was under the impression that Nathan had made her real name public knowledge.
Quote: OnceDearhttps://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/28330-bad-casino-giveaways/25/#post581336
She has also confirmed on this forum that that likeness is her
Thanks. I will retract the warning for the privacy violation but not for pot stirring by cross-forum contamination.
Quote: OnceDear
Anyhow, I'm through caring about Nathan's gender or identity. How many times have we bumped this silly thread just because of such speculation?
One more than you previously thought......
I'll throw in the $100 Macy's gift card if you throw in the physical.Quote: SOOPOOOne more than you previously thought......
Quote: prozemaAm I the only one who is suprised that a WON sock puppet hasn't made an appearance in this thread?
I’ve seen two or three WON sock puppet posts in Nathan’s Corner. But the mods have been pretty quick with deleting them
Quote: NathanSeriously wondering if I should just come clean about something I did newly. Let's just say I proverbially ate some cookies and then was like,"I don't know who ate the cookies! I like ice cream instead!" While I have cookie crumbs on me and my breath smells like cookies. And people are like,"Come on, we already suspect you ate the cookies!"
No. Fail. If this was a basketball game I would give a you a technical foul and eject you from the game for that post.
Quote: mcallister3200No. Fail. If this was a basketball game I would give a you a technical foul and eject you from the game for that post.
I edited my post. :)
Quote: NathanSeriously wondering if I should just come clean about something I did newly. Let's just say I proverbially ate some cookies and then was like,"I don't know who ate the cookies! I like ice cream instead!" While my breath smells like cookies. And people are like,"I suspect Nathan ate those cookies. I'm smelling her breath and it smells suspiciously like Chips Ahoy!Why won't she just admit she ate them?" And on top of that, I confessed to some people in private that I ate them and one of them said something like,"Nathan told me she ate the cookies!"
Had you done a little investigation, you would have figured out that Dan has said something along the lines of.... he won't protect trolls and he will expose them when possible, including PM's. You put him in a tough spot when you tell him the truth but then post deceptive crap on his site.
The question is... why are you playing games, lying, and catfishing? You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper with all the F***ing games. What little support and believability you had is fading faster than a quick-change artist at Walgreens.
Riddle me this, you claim that picture is really you. If you are telling the truth, what harm would it be to take another picture holding up a sign saying I love WOV like Mike suggested(you don't need to post it publicly, just let Mike or someone see it)? It would be nice if you gave a straight legitimate answer without any BS. At some point, no one will believe anything you say and I think more and more people will block and ignore you completely.
You may not have technically broken any forum rules but when it looks like you are making fools of the Mods, The Wizard and other Members, I can imagine it's good for the site.
I bet you are heading for a nuke and at this point, I think there's enough evidence they could get you on something.
Quote: NathanSeriously wondering if I should just come clean about something I did newly. Let's just say I proverbially ate some cookies and then was like,"I don't know who ate the cookies! I like ice cream instead!" While my breath smells like cookies. And people are like,"I suspect Nathan ate those cookies. I'm smelling her breath and it smells suspiciously like Chips Ahoy!Why won't she just admit she ate them?" And on top of that, I confessed to some people in private that I ate them and one of them said something like,"Nathan told me she ate the cookies!"
I once deceived a certain person. I didn't feel good about it, but it was like eating chips in the pantry. If nobody sees you, there are no calories. When the time came to either wash the clothes or not, I was like, Everything comes out in the wash", so why beat a dead horse? I was glad in the end that the taste of victory was less bitter than the smell of dead fish.
ZCore13
Quote: NathanSeriously wondering if I should just come clean about something I did newly.
I think it's time you did. We have nuked people before for the general protection of the forum, despite having broken no rules overtly. Everyone can see the crumbs on your mouth. This is time to come clean while you still can.
"The truth shall set your free."
Your post implies that there might be some sort of amnesty.
Quote: MrVAssume that Nathan does in fact confess to what many of us suspect, that her posts were all a ruse: then what?
Your post implies that there might be some sort of amnesty.
It will depend on the confession. Speaking for myself only, I want there to be an incentive to come clean. I will consider the opinions of the other mods too.
This is true neither in general nor in specific. In specific, persons have told the truth about their innocence or correctness, but were still subjected to incarceration or other punishment. More old-man, philosophical baloney.Quote: Wizard"The truth shall set you free."
Quote:The quote “And the truth shall set you free.” comes from the Bible, John 8:32. Different Bibles with different translators have slightly altered variations of this quote; however, they all reference the same idea. The truth is meant to represent Christianity, God or Jesus and the freedom refers to any worldly impediments such as sin, misery, or ignorance.
Quote: 1MatterToMotionMore old-man, philosophical baloney.
You would be advised to watch yourself.
Quote: BozYou honestly need a scorecard to keep track of which banned member is back as which poster anymore. It’s a damn epidemic.
I know. We do our best to catch them, but welcome your sock puppets suspicions via PM.
Quote: WizardI think it's time you did. We have nuked people before for the general protection of the forum, despite having broken no rules overtly. Everyone can see the crumbs on your mouth. This is time to come clean while you still can.
"The truth shall set your free."
Takes a deep breath. Here goes my confession. I'm Tasha on another website. :)
How is this not trolling? Seriously?
Deeper breath... Then a groan and a long drawn out sigh.Quote: NathanTakes a deep breath. Here goes my confession. I'm Tasha on another website. :)
Tell us something we don't know. Didn't know within an hour of Tasha's creation.
Tell us something interesting.
Tell us something we care about.
Use this corner for something other than discussing your multitude of identities, or the thread might be locked, with you still in it.
This site does not want to know what happens on other sites. Tasha is their problem. Leave her there.
Oh, and FYI, I'm Harry on another website, Shaun on Facebook, and Daniel on Yahoo and... So what?
Quote: WizardI know. We do our best to catch them, but welcome your sock puppets suspicions via PM.
Snitches get stitches.
Quote: OnceDearDeeper breath... Then a groan and a long drawn out sigh.
Tell us something we don't know. Didn't know within an hour of Tasha's creation.
Tell us something interesting.
Tell us something we care about.
Use this corner for something other than discussing your multitude of identities, or the thread might be locked, with you still in it.
This site does not want to know what happens on other sites. Tasha is their problem. Leave her there.
Oh, and FYI, I'm Harry on another website, Shaun on Facebook, and Daniel on Yahoo and... So what?
I imagine that corn field is looking better and better.
Quote: PokerGrinderOMG NO WAY! I NEVER SAW THAT ONE COMING...
How is this not trolling? Seriously?
I am not trolling, Tasha is a nickname of Natasha, which shares the "Nat," with Nathaniel/Nathan. I wanted to sign up as female in case of a real life meeting on that other website to prevent the fiasco last year that happened because I refused to say "I am a female," when the meeter tried to meet me but was expecting a man named Nathan, not a woman named Karen.
Since you seem to be a master at avoiding certain questions or perhaps it's just a lot for you to take in at once, dear. Can I get your attention?Quote: NathanTakes a deep breath. Here goes my confession. I'm Tasha on another website. :)
We can do one at a time.
here we go, pay close attention....
Riddle me this, you claim that picture is really you. If you are telling the truth, what harm would it be to take another picture holding up a sign saying I love WOV like Mike suggested(you don't need to post it publicly, just let Mike or someone see it)? It would be nice if you gave a straight legitimate answer without any BS.