Nathan's Corner
No problem at the moment. Nathan, how do you think it's working out having this thread? Do you find it restrictive? Is it working for you or do you find some of the responses are reducing the thread's value or deflecting its purpose?Quote: NathanGuys I am seriously not trying to Troll.I even started this thread because OTHER posters said I was starting too many threads and wanted me to have ONE thread where I could post my thoughts and feelings.
Quote: NathanGuys I am seriously not trying to Troll.I even started this thread because OTHER posters said I was starting too many threads and wanted me to have ONE thread where I could post my thoughts and feelings.
I have no regrets about approving "Nathan's Corner." I'm looking forward to the next Nathan story.
We mods don't have the luxury of blocking users. For the rest of you who aren't exactly members in good standing of the Nathan fan club, let me make a radical suggestion, again -- quit complaining and block her.
The uproar Nathan causes has arguably exceeded that caused by others who were nuked for violating rule 17, e.g. LarryS.
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd if Nathan is a long-term con/Troll, could she be doing a better job of it? Even if she's exactly what she says she is, could she be more disruptive to THIS forum? The hapless/help me garbage she posts has her front and center daily, arguing among yourselves, flirting with insult rules, putting me (and OD, now) in the position of appearing as jerks just to keep the forum out of the sludge of the LCD affectation she spews in most every post.
Attempts to respond specifically to her requests for guidance just result in her excuses and reiteration of the garbage. Misinformed opinion is offered as fact on a forum known for debunking fallacies. The barest hint of revelancy attaches some of her posts to a thead. No improvement observable or in sight.
And you want to encourage this? Really? I believe your sympathy is misplaced, and probably gaslit.
I would love to put her on block, and not have to respond to this stuff, from her, or from others. I wish I could. I wish all of YOU would block her. Can't believe the amount of slog the last month or so with the proliferation of inanity.
Nobody is forcing you, or anyone else, to stay. If you don't like Nathan, you're free to leave!
P.S. there is WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY more BS trash in the political threads but you mods do NOTHING about that.
It says if someone is posting within the rules but causing forum disruption via trolling , they can be nuked.
But isn’t there an actual specific rule in regards to trolling? If so, then if they are trolling then they are NOT posting within the forum rules
Quote: michael99000Something I don’t get about that rule 17..
It says if someone is posting within the rules but causing forum disruption via trolling , they can be nuked.
But isn’t there an actual specific rule in regards to trolling? If so, then if they are trolling then they are NOT posting within the forum rules
Some trolling is obvious, but some members make it a mission to have each of their posts within the rules. But a pattern of disruptive behaviour can become evident over a large number of posts, each of which is nominally acceptable.
It's a very grey and subjective line. It's not a fun rule to invoke.
IIRC Larrys's posts were purposely aimed at causing strife and division.Quote: MrVI'm no fan, but my focus is on the issue of where and how the mods "draw the line" before invoking rule 17.
The uproar Nathan causes has arguably exceeded that caused by others who were nuked for violating rule 17, e.g. LarryS.
It doesn't appear that's what Nathan is here to do. It seems to me as if she is trying to gain acceptance and appreciation.
Larry's posts were calculated and sinister, while Nathans posts seem to be just the opposite.
Ya, I know, some people want all the rules defined exactly. That way they can figure out how to get right up to that line each time without being banned/suspended.
I know Larry is going to try to call me out as a coward or some s**t since he can't respond here, but I'll be sure to engage with him on another forum soon enough.
No doubt you sent her in so you could actully have some good ones to write about in your book.Quote: darkozOnly Nathan could start pulling the AP secrets out of Axel
Apparently just act like you DONT want AP secrets and he practically begs for you to listen
Any plans for a book Axel?
Quote: AxelWolfLarry's posts were calculated and sinister, while Nathans posts seem to be just the opposite.
I think we need a separate thread titled
'Nathan's Motives', so we can get to
the bottom of this and satisfy the Nathan
obsession both the members and mods
seem to have. I've never seen anything
like this.
LS is very "philosophical".Quote: AxelWolfLarry's posts were calculated and sinister, while Nathans posts seem to be just the opposite.
Quote: 1MatterToMotionLS is very "philosophical".
Now that GG is closed, where do all
those whiners post their constant
complaints.
I say tactical.Quote: 1MatterToMotionLS is very "philosophical".
But given the way "Nathan" lied about his / her identity, and given the uneven tenor of his / her posts (some are naive, others are mature and intelligent), I simply cannot accept anything he / she says at face value.
Genuine poster or consumate troll?
Dunno.
To me, that is disruptive.
Quote: EvenBobNow that GG is closed, where do all
those whiners post their constant
complaints.
Same place MrBo can find KJ
Quote: IbeatyouracesSame place MrBo can find KJ
Whoa, you're back? 'Forever' must have
a different meaning in your part of MI.
Quote: EvenBobWhoa, you're back? 'Forever' must have
a different meaning in your part of MI.
Don't like it, LEAVE!
No. let's not.Quote: EvenBobI think we need a separate thread titled 'Nathan's Motives',
Quote:so we can get to the bottom of this and satisfy the Nathan obsession both the members and mods seem to have.
Nothing much to see here. Like Wizard, let's patiently await Nathan's next 'random' anecdote, in this thread
Really? Then enjoy the novelty while it lasts.Quote:I've never seen anything like this.
Quote: MrVWere there no question as to who / what "Nathan" really is, then I would have no problem: just another ploppie.
But given the way "Nathan" lied about his / her identity, and given the uneven tenor of his / her posts (some are naive, others are mature and intelligent), I simply cannot accept anything he / she says at face value.
Genuine poster or consumate troll?
Dunno.
To me, that is disruptive.
True. But this place needs disruption or it slows to a crawl.
Quote: IbeatyouracesDon't like it, LEAVE!
We get it, that's what you did. Forever.
Kind of..
Opinion noted. 'Block thread' is an option open to you, but not to me. Enjoy your super powers.Quote: MrVTo me, that is disruptive.
Quote: EvenBobWe get it, that's what you did. Forever.
Kind of..
Lost a bunch with your worthless roulette "bet selection" eh?
Quote: EvenBobI've never seen anything
like this.
Neither have I, and I go back to 1991 in forums of one kind or another. Seeing mods here say more than I have seen people get suspended for. And we lived thru Logan/MKL.
Citation invitedQuote: AZDuffmanSeeing mods here say more than I have seen people get suspended for.
Quote: AZDuffmanNeither have I, and I go back to 1991 in forums of one kind or another. Seeing mods here say more than I have seen people get suspended for. And we lived thru Logan/MKL.
This place has turned into what they
call the 'cult of personality'. It often
happens in companies and corporations
where people get to know each other
too well, and egos and personal traits
of those in charge color everything
that happens. The mods here now are
way more involved than they were in
the past.
Quote: AxelWolfNo doubt you sent her in so you could actully have some good ones to write about in your book.
Chapter 1:
Get someone posing as silly to pry all the trade secrets out of pros like Axel
Damn Axel. Youre too good for me. Figured that one out huh?
The mods here are members. We post from time to time. Would you prefer we didn't and just lurked and nuked without being any way contactable or accountable?Quote: EvenBobThe mods here now are
way more involved than they were in
the past.
Quote: OnceDearCitation invited
Sure!
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd if Nathan is a long-term con/Troll, could she be doing a better job of it? Even if she's exactly what she says she is, could she be more disruptive to THIS forum? The hapless/help me garbage she posts has her front and center daily, arguing among yourselves, flirting with insult rules, putting me (and OD, now) in the position of appearing as jerks just to keep the forum out of the sludge of the LCD affectation she spews in most every post.
Seems a bit more of an attack than just calling someone "a kid."
Also a bit worse than saying "have you stopped beating your wife?" to answer a loaded question.
Quote: OnceDearWould you prefer we didn't and just lurked and nuked
On many forums that's exactly what they
do. They never drive discussions, they
just enforce the rules.
Acknowleges that Nathan might be exactly who she claims, or might be a 'created character'. That is surely true of all members and is no insult.Quote: beachbumbabsAnd if Nathan is a long-term con/Troll, could she be doing a better job of it? Even if she's exactly what she says she is, could she be more disruptive to THIS forum?
Can't see any lie or insult/attack in that.Quote: BeachbumBabsThe hapless/help me garbage she posts has her front and center daily
Well the fact that I'm seeing fit to reply sort of confirms that assertion.Quote: BeachbumBabs... arguing among yourselves, flirting with insult rules, putting me (and OD, now) in the position of appearing as jerks
Well there's some question about what BBB meant there, but to me sludge is an unwanted mess that bogs us down. Sort of fits what I have observed.Quote: BeachbumBabsjust to keep the forum out of the sludge of the LCD affectation she spews in most every post.
Quote: AZDuffmanSeems a bit more of an attack than just calling someone "a kid."
Also a bit worse than saying "have you stopped beating your wife?" to answer a loaded question.
Well, AZDuffman, this is not a personal attack, but I do not share your perception one iota.
I think someone suggested a Skype session with a known member or Mod. I have yet to ever skype, but I have been meaning to set it up anyways.
I would be willing to Skype with Nathan if she is amenable to it. I think I could figure out if she's legit as far as her persona goes. Or, perhaps she could do it with someone else. Depending on who I may or may not trust their judgment.
If not, that's cool. NO ONE IS SAYING SHE MUST DO THIS TO PROVE ANYTHING. We all know this forum is as anonymous as you want it to be. But, I would find it a bit odd that she is more than willing to meet in person but not on Skype.
It would be nice to put some of the skepticism to rest and focus on other things.
Any opinion on Tommy Robinson?Quote: OnceDearPoint by point... All IMHO.
#FreeTommy
Quote: AxelWolfRegarding the skepticism surrounding Nathans gender and whatnot, It sounds as if Nathan is willing to meet up with members in her neck of the woods. There was supposed to be a meeting already, but due to Nathans misleading tells about her gender, the meeting never took place(probably a blessing in disguise). However, that's totally on her. IMHO.
I think someone suggested a Skype session with a known member or Mod. I have yet to ever skype, but I have been meaning to set it up anyways.
I would be willing to Skype with Nathan if she is amenable to it. I think I could figure out if she's legit as far as her persona goes. Or, perhaps she could do it with someone else. Depending on who I may or may not trust their judgment.
If not, that's cool. NO ONE IS SAYING SHE MUST DO THIS TO PROVE ANYTHING. We all know this forum is as anonymous as you want it to be. But, I would find it a bit odd that she is more than willing to meet in person but not on Skype.
It would be nice to put some of the skepticism to rest and focus on other things.
Axel, I appreciate your post, maybe Nathan does too. But I lean towards the 'no oblgation to prove' camp.
Open invitation to Nathan, and I'll draw no inference if she declines. PM me to arrange a video chat by skype or facebook or similar. I'll ask one verification question and base my opinion solely on your reply. It would be good to get to know each-other in any case and you could gain much more trust from your readers. Surely a good thing.
Just PM me to set it up, if you wish. ALL as confidential as you wish. I have no axe to grind.
OD
Never heard of her.Quote: petroglyphAny opinion on Tommy Robinson?
#FreeTommy
$;o)
Had to google. still no opinion.
Quote: OnceDearNever heard of her.
$;o)
Had to google. still no opinion.
Seriously? And you live there?
It's big news here, but you have
no freedom of the press, do you.
That's rather why he's in prison,
you have no constitution and
no constitutional rights.
Hmmm it's been all over the news for the last two days. For the last two days, I've ignored the news. Bite me,Quote: EvenBobSeriously? And you live there?
I'd never heard of him before, so what. Nathan did not know who Steve Mnuchin is. Bite her too if you like.
LMFAO.Quote:you have no freedom of the press, do you.
Well we have the Magna Carta which is a pretty shitty constitution document. But we don't envy you yours, trust me on that.Quote:you have no constitution and no constitutional rights.
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd if Nathan is a long-term con/Troll, could she be doing a better job of it? Even if she's exactly what she says she is, could she be more disruptive to THIS forum? The hapless/help me garbage she posts has her front and center daily, arguing among yourselves, flirting with insult rules, putting me (and OD, now) in the position of appearing as jerks just to keep the forum out of the sludge of the LCD affectation she spews in most every post.
Attempts to respond specifically to her requests for guidance just result in her excuses and reiteration of the garbage. Misinformed opinion is offered as fact on a forum known for debunking fallacies. The barest hint of revelancy attaches some of her posts to a thead. No improvement observable or in sight.
And you want to encourage this? Really? I believe your sympathy is misplaced, and probably gaslit.
I would love to put her on block, and not have to respond to this stuff, from her, or from others. I wish I could. I wish all of YOU would block her. Can't believe the amount of slog the last month or so with the proliferation of inanity.
What a terrible post. This forum is barely 50% gambling related. And of that 50% or less, less than half of that is serious or insiteful. Look at the most recent posts at any time to see examples of this.
Nathan was chastised for posting to much fluff on a site full of fluff. She then was relocated to her own thread, and she is posting within it and still getting heat, including from you for some reason.
Give her a break. She doesn't cuss, she doesn't offend people, she doesn't post negative mean spirited content. This is getting ridiculous.
ZCore13
Quote: EvenBobI think we need a separate thread titled
'Nathan's Motives'.
Prediction:
Nathan creates a thread titled “Nathan’s Motives”, and starts it off by saying “Several members of the forum have requested a separate thread detailing my motives...”
Quote: NathanGuys I am seriously not trying to Troll.I even started this thread because OTHER posters said I was starting too many threads and wanted me to have ONE thread where I could post my thoughts and feelings.
Wouldn't you prefer to post your thoughts in a place where maybe at least 5 people actually care what your thoughts are? Gawd, I would hate to see your facebook page, I can just imagine. Or have you been kicked off fb too?
Are those reasons court ordered? (-:Quote: NathanGuys once again I am NOT going to go to Vegas for personal reasons.
You go girl!
That's what I was thinking as well.Quote: mcallister3200GWAE is a little jelly Nathan’s very miscellaneous corner is more popular than the miscellaneous discussion thread?
You go girl!
Watch your back Nathan.
Quote: OnceDearBite me,
I'd never heard of him before, so what. Nathan did not know who Steve Mnuchin is. Bite her too if you like.
Well we have the Magna Carta which is a pretty shitty constitution document. But we don't envy you yours, trust me on that.
I never thought I'd appreciate that England
is 5 hours ahead of us in time, it's 9:30 here
on the East coast and the middle of the
night in GB.
Perfect..
Now that you wear the robes of an admin you must curb your completely understandable desire curb kick EB to the side of the road and cover him with road apples; you have real power now and will be judged on how you use it.
Best to just egg him on and let him implode; then let another mod do the dirty work for you.
Quote: MrVMemo to OD:
Now that you wear the robes of an admin you must curb your completely understandable desire curb kick EB to the side of the road and cover him with road apples; you have real power now and will be judged on how you use it.
Best to just egg him on and let him implode; then let another mod do the dirty work for you.
Why?
I thought EB looks up to people with power who abuse them for personal reasons
Quote: MaxPenQuote: WizardDon't tell anyone my secret, but it isn't as beneficial as putting a toy troll on top of the machine. Here is my favorite.
I went to Bingo with my wife at Sunset Station. Some lady had about a dozen of those things. She had one parked on top of a coverall card that needed one number. Somebody else hit it after she missed about 5x. She took the doll afterward and smacked it down on the table and cut the head off with a knife.
When I first saw that I thought it was the voodoo doll EvenBob had made to bring about schadenfreude during one of my Vegas trips
Quote: MrVBest to just egg him on and let him implode;.
Implode, yeah. That's why I'm still
here 8 years later because I 'implode'.
He tells me to separate facts from
opinion, like it's part of a mods job
to correct grammar and editorialize.
It's not.
