Nathan's Corner
Quote: Zcore13
That's a lot to imagine as being set up.
It's almost nothing. Go to Walgreens and
get somebody to do it. If you work there,
get your friend to do it. The person in
the video acts like she's reading something,
or has been rehearsed to say something.
It's like the audition for a commercial, the
first take.
Quote: onenickelmiracleAce is obviously the better lawyer.
Whatever.
Oh, btw: that was an ad hominem attack / insult; you really should have known better.
Quote: EvenBobIt's almost nothing.
Pshaw.
If in fact you really believe it is "almost nothing" to find someone to pose both for the original pic (Karen) and then have the same person do a video wearing a Walgreens shirt: all I can say is ... hell, there's nothing more to be said except "res ipsa loquitur," i.e. "the thing speaks for itself."
Quote: NathanI've been told my speaking voice when recording something sounds robotic .... ;)
Done a lot of 'recording' have you?
The person in the video seems to
have done almost none. It's totally
scripted and is either being read,
or she was told what to say just
before the video. There is nothing
spontaneous there.
If it's really you, make a 2 min video
and discuss WoV. That should be easy,
you're here every day. Right? Easy
peasy.
The reality is that the obvious explanation for something is usually correct. And the obvious explanation is that the video depicts the forum member known as Nathan.
Quote: EvenBobDone a lot of 'recording' have you?
The person in the video seems to
have done almost none. It's totally
scripted and is either being read,
or she was told what to say just
before the video. There is nothing
spontaneous there.
If it's really you, make a 2 min video
and discuss WoV. That should be easy,
you're here every day. Right? Easy
peasy.
Thats ridiculous
This is not a court of law. She really didnt need to post a video of herself
But she did
She doesnt need to make video proof after video proof
If any other poster was asked to do that on here particularly the APs there would be absolute refusal imo
Since you have accusations it is now up to you to prove them. Not Nathan to disprove them. She has made her good faith move
Perhaps admin should weigh in on the issue.
Quote: NathanBecause Nathaniel is one of my favorite names, so it makes sense for me to choose Nathaniel as my YouTube Channel too. :)
According to Social Security, Nathaniel is currently the 928th most popular baby name for boys. It is waning in popularity, down from 584th place in 2000.
In the episode "A child with no name" on Little House on the Prairie, Nathaniel was the top of the list. I don't know why I remember stuff like this.
Quote: darkozThis is not a court of law. She really didnt need to post a video of herself
And she didn't. I don't understand,
I don't get an opinion? I have to
take everything at face value? I've
made claims on this forum over
the years and have been called
a liar, a con man, and much worse.
Where were all my defenders
then, saying 'Bob said it's true,
so that's that'.
Of course they had a right to their
opinion, just like I do here. And
so do you. The video looks phony
to me, oh well.
Quote: MrVI think that members who continue to question her bona fides would be trolling.
Perhaps admin should weigh in on the issue.
Oh, EB is skeptical of everything. If Nathan wanted to press charges, I would take the matter under advisement. It seems to me that every even slightly flirtatious female gets accused of being an attention-seeking lonely single male living in his parent's basement by half the forum. I'd be suspending people right and left if that was suspension worthy. That's just my take.
Quote: WizardOh, EB is skeptical of everything. If Nathan wanted to press charges, I would take the matter under advisement.
HUH? Press charges for what. For
having an opinion? When did this
become the place where we have
to take everything posted at face
value without question.
Those who continue to question and attack her credibility would be insulting her as posting such claims would be the same as calling her a liar.
No, it is not a matter of opinion, it is now a matter of established fact, for all practical purposes.
I believe it was not a violation of the rules to question her until the video was posted, but that ship has now sailed.
Flame her at your collective peril, gentlemen.
Quote: MrVNathan has met her burden of proof.
And you claim to be a lawyer?
Since when is a unsubstantiated
video a proof of anything? It's
just a video, it could be anybody
saying what they were told to say.
Man, I'd love to go up against you
in court. You'd take any evidence
I presented and not question it.
Slam dunk win for me.
Quote: EvenBobAnd you claim to be a lawyer?
Since when is a unsubstantiated
video a proof of anything? It's
just a video, it could be anybody
saying what they were told to say.
Man, I'd love to go up against you
in court. You'd take any evidence
I presented and not question it.
Slam dunk win for me.
I bet you wonder if you really are paying for premium gas from the pump
when I lived in Hawaii. Some say
I look a lot like Tom Selleck, but
I don't see it.
Have I established my identity?
Got any doubts? Better not voice
them, I said it's me, so you cannot
doubt it.
Ridiculous, right? Right.. Mr V
would accept this in court as
proof positive of my identity,
no question.
Quote: WizardAccording to Social Security, Nathaniel is currently the 928th most popular baby name for boys. It is waning in popularity, down from 584th place in 2000.
In the episode "A child with no name" on Little House on the Prairie, Nathaniel was the top of the list. I don't know why I remember stuff like this.
A certain name finally dropped out of the 10 in 2017. Last time it wasn’t in the top 10 was 1942.
Quote: EvenBobThis is a pic of me from the 80's
when I lived in Hawaii. Some say
I look a lot like Tom Selleck, but
I don't see it.
Have I established my identity?
Got any doubts? Better not voice
them, I said it's me, so you cannot
doubt it.
Ridiculous, right? Right.. Mr V
would accept this in court as
proof positive of my identity,
no question.
More believable than most of the things you claim to have done. I would give my opinion on what EB is doing, but think I’ll save a suspension bullet for another day. He did just post in another thread HE is the one allowed to fill up a thread with nonsense.
In an earlier thread, Nathan referenced one of my anecdotes about the origin of my user name on this forum...
Quote: nathan"Once Dear said that he chose his username because one day his wife at him when he was coming to bed. He replied,"At once, dear," and the rest was History. :)
But here's my problem with that: Did I really relate that silly little anecdote to the world at large? If so, where? Please remind me of the post.
I know I related it one to one to a few members and ex-members by PM. Damned if I can remember telling the world. Happy to be reminded.
Quote: OnceDearI have a serious favour to ask of Nathan. Any amateur sleuths here are welcome to help contribute.
In an earlier thread, Nathan referenced one of my anecdotes about the origin of my user name on this forum...
But here's my problem with that: Did I really relate that silly little anecdote to the world at large? If so, where? Please remind me of the post.
I know I related it one to one to a few members and ex-members by PM. Damned if I can remember telling the world. Happy to be reminded.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/slots/24236-so-how-was-slotting-today/21/#post501185
This it?
Quote: MrVNathan has met her burden of proof.
Those who continue to question and attack her credibility would be insulting her as posting such claims would be the same as calling her a liar.
No, it is not a matter of opinion, it is now a matter of established fact, for all practical purposes.
I believe it was not a violation of the rules to question her until the video was posted, but that ship has now sailed.
Flame her at your collective peril, gentlemen.
I believe you're incorrect about that.
Assuming that video is proof of something, then:
Nathan lied to this forum for months, before "coming clean".
If the video is not proof, then Nathan may still be lying.
Either way, there's a problem.
So, your ship may have sailed, but don't be putting rocks in other people's sea lanes. She damaged her own credibility long ago, publicly. It's not up to you to now install an insult threshold.
Quote: blount2000https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/slots/24236-so-how-was-slotting-today/21/#post501185
This it?
Well spotted Blount. thank you.
Nathan did indeed quote it pretty verbatim from my reply to Kentry in Dec 2016.
Congatulations Blount, on finding it. Congratulations to Nathan for having such a great memory from her days here as a lurker.
I wish my memory was half as good.
Quote: beachbumbabsI believe you're incorrect about that.
Assuming that video is proof of something, then:
Nathan lied to this forum for months, before "coming clean".
If the video is not proof, then Nathan may still be lying.
Either way, there's a problem.
So, your ship may have sailed, but don't be putting rocks in other people's sea lanes. She damaged her own credibility long ago, publicly. It's not up to you to now install an insult threshold.
IIRC, it was accepted by Wizard. If that’s not considered meeting the burden of proof...what is?
What had Nathan lied about?
Quote: EvenBobThis is a pic of me from the 80's
when I lived in Hawaii. Some say
I look a lot like Tom Selleck, but
I don't see it.
Have I established my identity?
Got any doubts? Better not voice
them, I said it's me, so you cannot
doubt it.
Ridiculous, right? Right.. Mr V
would accept this in court as
proof positive of my identity,
no question.
No
Correct me if im wrong but that doesnt look like a phone video with you speaking into it and mentioning wov
Quote: darkoz[/qthat doesnt look like a phone video with you speaking into it and mentioning wov
I'm sorry your honor, in 1983 we
didn't have cell phones or video.
We just had regular cameras. My
evidence that this is me is perfect
for the year it was taken.
And to Bill Ryan, GWAE, Axel, RogerKint, EvenBob, OneNickleMiracle, Oncedear and Babs (and others): I respect most of you guys but you have spent the better part of 40 pages of this thread (especially EvenBob) claiming that Nathan is not a short, heavy black female from Florida who works for Walgreen's and challenging her to post a video of herself to prove that she is not a former member such as 1BB.
The Wiz contacted her and she apparently has provided him with such a video, and the Wiz has posted it.
- She does appear to be short, not slim, black and a female.
- I see nothing inconsistent with her being from Florida.
- She is wearing a Walgreen's shirt
Rather than acknowledging that Nathan has done the very thing that you challenged her to do, many of you have continued to "express your opinion" for another half-dozen pages that she has proved nothing and have implied that she is likely a fraud. You guys have been impolite and unwelcoming to a forum member who is different than you and who writes posts that are different than you would write.
I don't expect EvenBob to have any sense of shame but the rest of you? C'mon, this is becoming an astonishing spectacle and Nathan is not the spectacle.
Quote: gordonm888and challenging her to post a video of herself to prove that she is not a former member such as 1BB.
Yeah, too bad the video is not her as
is obvious from the reading and the
coaching. Prove me wrong, I'll admit
it right here. And you all know how
much I hate being wrong.
Have Nathan Skype with Mike or Babs,
how hard it that. Costs nothing. Prove
me wrong and I'll have Mike ban me
for a month.
Quote: EvenBobYeah, too bad the video is not her as
is obvious from the reading and the
coaching. Prove me wrong, I'll admit
it right here. And you all know how
much I hate being wrong.
Have Nathan Skype with Mike or Babs,
how hard it that. Costs nothing. Prove
me wrong and I'll have Mike ban me
for a month.
A month of no EB is well worth it! Come on people let’s make this happen.
On a different note, has anyone here met Bob? Is his name really bob?
Quote: EvenBobYeah, too bad the video is not her as
is obvious from the reading and the
coaching. Prove me wrong, I'll admit
it right here. And you all know how
much I hate being wrong.
Have Nathan Skype with Mike or Babs,
how hard it that. Costs nothing. Prove
me wrong and I'll have Mike ban me
for a month.
*ears perk up*
Although I'd be more interested if the ban was forever.
Quote: RSQuote: EvenBobYeah, too bad the video is not her as
is obvious from the reading and the
coaching. Prove me wrong, I'll admit
it right here. And you all know how
much I hate being wrong.
Have Nathan Skype with Mike or Babs,
how hard it that. Costs nothing. Prove
me wrong and I'll have Mike ban me
for a month.
*ears perk up*
Although I'd be more interested if the ban was forever.
I will fly down to FL to meet Nathan myself if we can get that to happen.
Quote: EvenBobAnd you claim to be a lawyer?...Man, I'd love to go up against you
in court.
Not to rain on your parade, but that will never happen.
Due to earlier life choices our paths have been set and will NEVER cross.
I chose college and law school; you chose driving a hack and tending a bar.
Different worlds.
BTW: were you to "go up against" me in court, I'd tear you to shreds.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's not up to you to now install an insult threshold.
There appears to be a lack of uniformity in the ranks of the admins on the Nathan issue, Babs: you seem to be in the minority now.
The wiz seems satisified, and with all due respect he trumps you.
Quote: EvenBobYeah, too bad the video is not her as
is obvious from the reading and the
coaching. Prove me wrong, I'll admit
it right here. And you all know how
much I hate being wrong.
Have Nathan Skype with Mike or Babs,
how hard it that. Costs nothing. Prove
me wrong and I'll have Mike ban me
for a month.
What would that prove to you?
"Nathan got someone to skype for her"
"Nathan sounds nervous cant be her"
"Show us her ID. Oh wait her ID doesnt say Nathan. See I was right its not her"
Come on
Quote: gordonm888I have a proposal. The Wizard of Odds Academy should stop making videos about Cubing and such, and instead make videos about Nathan. Because Nathan's video has excited far more comment than any of Michael Shackleford's videos have.
And to Bill Ryan, GWAE, Axel, RogerKint, EvenBob, OneNickleMiracle, Oncedear and Babs (and others): I respect most of you guys but you have spent the better part of 40 pages of this thread (especially EvenBob) claiming that Nathan is not a short, heavy black female from Florida who works for Walgreen's and challenging her to post a video of herself to prove that she is not a former member such as 1BB.
The Wiz contacted her and she apparently has provided him with such a video, and the Wiz has posted it.
- She does appear to be short, not slim, black and a female.
- I see nothing inconsistent with her being from Florida.
- She is wearing a Walgreen's shirt
Rather than acknowledging that Nathan has done the very thing that you challenged her to do, many of you have continued to "express your opinion" for another half-dozen pages that she has proved nothing and have implied that she is likely a fraud. You guys have been impolite and unwelcoming to a forum member who is different than you and who writes posts that are different than you would write.
I don't expect EvenBob to have any sense of shame but the rest of you? C'mon, this is becoming an astonishing spectacle and Nathan is not the spectacle.
I like how you respect most of you. Can we speculate on who the ones you dont are. ;-) JFK
I dont think that I have ever doubted that she is a female nathan. My contention is that this is not her first screen name here.
Quote: GWAEMy contention is that this is not her first screen name here.
I agree, there is a lot going
on that we have yet to find
out.
Quote: FinsRuleOn a different note, has anyone here met Bob? Is his name really bob?
No, obviously his name is Thomas W. Selleck.
We all know she has had other screen names here(I'm not even talking about Kentry).Quote: EvenBobI agree, there is a lot going
on that we have yet to find
out.
I think she has been around the forum block a few times and I think she knows not to admit that since shes probably been banned from other sites for making multiple sock accounts and she has seen what happens here.
I still think that Nathan/Tasha is the person in the Video.
I guess there's always a chance the person in the Video is a friend, family member or Co-worker.
Why anyone would take on her particular persona is beyond me.
Why did she pretend to be a male in the first place? I don't know(there could be a few logical reasons). Perhaps I'll let you know when I figure out why anyone would pretend to have a winning roulette system.
Whatever the case, it doesn't seem to me that she's up to anything too nefarious.
p.s. we seem to have had a SPIKE in activity here as of late.
Quote: AxelWolfp.s. we seem to have had a SPIKE in activity here as of late.
Of course.
Spike gets jealous when people other than himself are the focus of discussion.
It's all about getting attention.
I mean, who else would pontificate an opinion at pretty much every opportunity on any subject?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Not that there's anything right with that.
Quote: AxelWolf
Why anyone would take on her particular persona is beyond me.
Because you would pick a person
who is the polar opposite of who
you are if you were trying to fool
people.
Kinda like if someone claimed they have a winning roulette system.Quote: EvenBobBecause you would pick a person
who is the polar opposite of who
you are if you were trying to fool
people.
Quote: MrVOf course.
Spike gets jealous when people other than himself are the focus of discussion.
It's all about getting attention.
I mean, who else would pontificate an opinion at pretty much every opportunity on any subject?
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Not that there's anything right with that.
Why the name Even Bob? Spike was a much better handle.
I don't know why a woman would come within 50 miles of this joint, unless she was just crazy good at math.Quote: AxelWolfWhy anyone would take on her particular persona is beyond me.
Direct: https://youtu.be/bD9GuDQO24A
Quote: WizardIf the first video didn't convince you...
Direct: https://youtu.be/bD9GuDQO24A
They say sequels generally dissapoint, but I enjoyed Nathan II. It tied up many of the loose ends from part one.
That’s a lot of plastic bag looking things sticking out of her pocketbook.
