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July 11th, 2025 at 6:57:36 PM permalink
Glad it worked out for you
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I am Nathan, back after my phone broke on me and I forgot the password to my Nathan Account and my Nathan Account was made under a now extinct email address. So I decided to register under my real name, Karen. 😀
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July 22nd, 2025 at 3:29:45 PM permalink
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I am Nathan, back after my phone broke on me and I forgot the password to my Nathan Account and my Nathan Account was made under a now extinct email address. So I decided to register under my real name, Karen. 😀
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I'll remind everyone to have a serviceable email address on file.

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August 7th, 2025 at 12:16:02 PM permalink
How are things Nathan? Haven't seen you post in a bit
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I am glad to be back on WOV! 😀
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In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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August 29th, 2025 at 7:09:15 AM permalink
Praise be the Lord.
This place was going to hell in a handbasket without you.
This is why it is so essential to have easy-to-remember passwords.

Mine is a friends birthday, followed by my first dog's name, a food I will never eat, and my favorite players home run total. I challenge anyone to crack it. Every so often I change which birthday I use
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August 29th, 2025 at 7:19:48 AM permalink
Welcome back
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August 29th, 2025 at 8:03:44 AM permalink
I feel that many people get mistakes and bad decisions that didn't work out well mixed up. A shoplifter who got caught said,"I made a big mistake!" No, she didn't make a big mistake. She made a bad decision that didn't work out well for her. A mistake is accidentally using a card that you didn't mean to use and getting hit with an overdraft charge. A bad decision that didn't work out well is shoplifting and getting caught. 💡
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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August 29th, 2025 at 8:36:18 AM permalink
If you learn from something, you might call it a mistake. If you repeat it, it is a conscious decision, and you must be prepared for the blowback.
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August 29th, 2025 at 6:31:34 PM permalink
Hmm. I have made a lot of money through online marketing research jobs in 11 months. 😀

Branded Surveys. Roughly $10

Dave Surveys. Roughly $30

Five Surveys. Roughly $15

Free Cash. Roughly $24, roughly $12 pending

Hey Piggy. Roughly $300

Qmee. Roughly $1 pending

Prime Opinion. Roughly $96

Survey Junkie. Roughly $280

Top Surveys. Roughly $220 cashed out, roughly $100 locked

😀


Gaming apps that pay money. 😀

Best Play. Roughly $5

Just Play. Roughly $5

Playwell. Roughly $33

Scrambly. Roughly $57, with roughly $4 pending.

😀

I made over $1,000 through online marketing research job and gaming apps that pay money! 😀
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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August 30th, 2025 at 6:40:19 AM permalink
You go, girl!!!!!!
How many hours would you estimate it took you to earn the $1,000?
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August 30th, 2025 at 6:46:00 AM permalink
Nathan said at the beginning of her last post 11 months
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August 30th, 2025 at 7:22:37 AM permalink
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You go, girl!!!!!!
How many hours would you estimate it took you to earn the $1,000?
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I calculated 5 hours times 30 times 11 and got 1,650 hours, LMAO! 🤣🤭😀 But I wasn't working 5 hours a day every day however. 😏 But I often do 5 hours at my online marketing research job. 😏
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 2nd, 2025 at 12:44:57 PM permalink
Oh my God, there are rollercoasters that are built right next to an OCEAN! 😱😳 What an awful idea! 😱😳 I can imagine the lawsuits happening if people fall off the rollercoasters and end up drowning in the ocean! 😱😳
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 2nd, 2025 at 1:02:22 PM permalink
There used to be a spectacular wood and steel roller coaster built out over the ocean in Sea Bright, NJ. It survived multiple seasons, but eventually it drifted out to sea some years back.
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September 2nd, 2025 at 2:58:16 PM permalink
If I'm going to fall out of a rollercoaster, I think I'd prefer falling into the ocean than onto the pavement. I could be like one of those diving horses they had on the Boardwalk. Diving is natural behavior for horses, that alone won't hurt them. But the riders were not always so lucky.

I'd be more worried about the salt water corrosion that besets things built near the ocean shore. That was the cause of the demise of the Arecibo radio telescope, which is actually quite far from the shore, about 10 miles, but the salt mist it was continuously exposed to caused widespread corrosion of its mechanical support and it collapsed.
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September 4th, 2025 at 7:03:22 PM permalink
There is a clip of Friends where Joey, Phoebe, Ross, Rachel, Chandler, and Monica go to an expensive dinner to celebrate Monica getting an expensive raise. Joey, Phoebe, and Chandler eat cheap appetizers and order water.

Ross, Rachel, and Monica order expensive appetizers, expensive entrees, wine, and dessert. At the end of the meal, Ross, Rachel, and Monica state that the six friends split the bill equally. Phoebe, Chandler, and Joey understandably protest, stating they only had cheap appetizers and water while Ross, Rachel, and Monica had the expensive food and wine.

I saw a video where a man goes to dinner with his best friend and her friends and he orders cheap food and soda I believe it was and she and her friends ordered expensive food and wine. They got into an argument because he didn't want to split the bill equally paying more money than what he ordered. He said he and his best friend stopped being friends because of this incident.

Splitting the bill equally when equal food and drinks weren't had is a bad idea in my and many other people's opinions. Separate bills is the way to go where everybody pays for what they ordered and not for anybody else.

If someone had a burger, fries, and a soda that is around $20 including tax and tip, they would feel VERY resentful being asked to split equally a $500 bill with people who had fried calamari, chicken tenders and fries, a bone in rib eye steak with fries and broccoli, soda, and a brookie.

The one who ordered the cheap meal gets to majorly overpay and the people who ordered the expensive meal gets a huge discount. The one who ordered the cheap meal would be resentful whereas the people who ordered the expensive meal would be happy. To avoid any resentment, separate bills is the way to go. 💡
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In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 4th, 2025 at 8:30:50 PM permalink
I went to lunch with a friend and his girlfriend. Her sister was in town, and he asked me if I'd take her out. It was in the 90s, and NYC had a restaurant week where lunches were $19.97 or $19.98. We go to a fancy spot I'd never be able to afford, and as we order lunch, my friend orders a hundred-dollar bottle of wine. The sister doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker, but he doesn't notice. It's a nice enough lunch, but the sister spoke limited English, and we weren't a match. She was gorgeous but she wasn't interested. As we finish up and I'm preparing to call it a day, my friend orders another bottle of wine- this one was $125 and he then orders a dessert tray- a sample of about a dozen different desserts -for $99. I expected to pay for the sister even though we weren't together, but I refused to split the $325 in wines and desserts. I gave him $80 or $90, and our friendship never recovered.
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September 4th, 2025 at 9:31:41 PM permalink
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I went to lunch with a friend and his girlfriend. Her sister was in town, and he asked me if I'd take her out. It was in the 90s, and NYC had a restaurant week where lunches were $19.97 or $19.98. We go to a fancy spot I'd never be able to afford, and as we order lunch, my friend orders a hundred-dollar bottle of wine. The sister doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker, but he doesn't notice. It's a nice enough lunch, but the sister spoke limited English, and we weren't a match. She was gorgeous but she wasn't interested. As we finish up and I'm preparing to call it a day, my friend orders another bottle of wine- this one was $125 and he then orders a dessert tray- a sample of about a dozen different desserts -for $99. I expected to pay for the sister even though we weren't together, but I refused to split the $325 in wines and desserts. I gave him $80 or $90, and our friendship never recovered.
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Yep, restaurant meals cost have caused friendships to end like your and your ex friend's did and the guy and his best friend's did. Separate bills are a must. If anything, your friend should have paid the entire bill since HE was the one who actually ordered all the expensive food and drinks. 💡
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 4th, 2025 at 11:16:50 PM permalink
A group from my park goes to a different restaurant once a month, and the rule is the food is split equally and drinks are billed individually.
I was surprised places would do that, but they do.
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September 4th, 2025 at 11:44:13 PM permalink
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A group from my park goes to a different restaurant once a month, and the rule is the food is split equally and drinks are billed individually.
I was surprised places would do that, but they do.
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Well, that's a STUPID idea. ,😐🤨😳 What idiotic Restaurant splits food equally but bills drinks individually? 😐🤨😳
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 4th, 2025 at 11:45:20 PM permalink
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A group from my park goes to a different restaurant once a month, and the rule is the food is split equally and drinks are billed individually.
I was surprised places would do that, but they do.
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Well, that's a STUPID idea. What idiotic Restaurant splits food equally but bills drinks separately? 😐🤨😳
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It's surprisingly common not to want to cover someone else's dinner booze.
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September 4th, 2025 at 11:58:06 PM permalink
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A group from my park goes to a different restaurant once a month, and the rule is the food is split equally and drinks are billed individually.
I was surprised places would do that, but they do.
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Well, that's a STUPID idea. What idiotic Restaurant splits food equally but bills drinks separatel😐🤨😳
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It's surprisingly common not to want to cover someone else's dinner booze.
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I personally don't know any restaurant that splits food equally but bills drinks individually however. All the Restaurants I go to, food and drinks are equally on the same check.💡
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 4th, 2025 at 11:59:44 PM permalink
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A group from my park goes to a different restaurant once a month, and the rule is the food is split equally and drinks are billed individually.
I was surprised places would do that, but they do.
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Well, that's a STUPID idea. What idiotic Restaurant splits food equally but bills drinks separatel😐🤨😳
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It's surprisingly common not to want to cover someone else's dinner booze.
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I personally don't know any restaurant that splits food equally but bills drinks individually however. All the Restaurants I go to, food and drinks are equally on the same check.💡
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It is truly amazing what a modern computerized POS accounting system can do.
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September 5th, 2025 at 12:19:11 AM permalink
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I went to lunch with a friend and his girlfriend. Her sister was in town, and he asked me if I'd take her out. It was in the 90s, and NYC had a restaurant week where lunches were $19.97 or $19.98. We go to a fancy spot I'd never be able to afford, and as we order lunch, my friend orders a hundred-dollar bottle of wine. The sister doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker, but he doesn't notice. It's a nice enough lunch, but the sister spoke limited English, and we weren't a match. She was gorgeous but she wasn't interested. As we finish up and I'm preparing to call it a day, my friend orders another bottle of wine- this one was $125 and he then orders a dessert tray- a sample of about a dozen different desserts -for $99. I expected to pay for the sister even though we weren't together, but I refused to split the $325 in wines and desserts. I gave him $80 or $90, and our friendship never recovered.
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I'm going to answer another part of your post. The Friend didn't notice that neither you or his girlfriend's Sister actually didn't drink/enjoy any of the expensive wine? 😐 What a wonderful Friend that guy was. 😐
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 5th, 2025 at 12:44:25 AM permalink
Speaking of confusing bills, my Family went to a Restaurant to celebrate a birthday or a graduation or something like that and I agreed to pay for my cousin's brownie, about $9. The Waiter was confused on why my cousin didn't pay for her brownie. I pointed out that her brownie was to go on MY bill since I decided to give her the brownie as a treat. The waiter understood and I paid for my Cousin's brownie. 😀
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 6th, 2025 at 12:34:13 AM permalink
About the video of the Best Friends arguing over him not wanting to pay a higher portion than what he ordered, a Poster said something like,"I feel so bad for the Waiter. Them arguing over the bill instead of it being paid most likely will end up with the poor innocent Waiter getting into trouble with their job! 😱😳
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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September 6th, 2025 at 4:38:41 AM permalink
Most of my friends just split the bills. I always use the same stupid joke…. ‘If there’s an extra penny put it on his bill…’

One couple we go out with a lot always drinks way more than we do. There have been times it’s egregious enough that they want to pay more than half, so they will ‘double tip’ and we won’t tip.

But as a standard, we split it down the middle. It doesn’t really make up for it, but this friend will always pay for my hot dog/soda ‘at the turn’ whenever we golf.

One other friend will always ask for a separate check. I’m fine with that too.
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September 6th, 2025 at 7:10:52 AM permalink
I've always wondered how much additional fuss it is for the waitress to do separate checks. Personally, I don't want to give them any extra work so favor "one check" with everyone being on the honor system to put in according to how much they ordered.
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September 6th, 2025 at 8:22:35 AM permalink
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I've always wondered how much additional fuss it is for the waitress to do separate checks. Personally, I don't want to give them any extra work so favor "one check" with everyone being on the honor system to put in according to how much they ordered.
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I've been to Vegas meetups where the honor system left the person holding the bill quite short, and some where everyone paid enough that the waitress got a spectacular tip.
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September 6th, 2025 at 4:10:51 PM permalink
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I've been to Vegas meetups where the honor system left the person holding the bill quite short, and some where everyone paid enough that the waitress got a spectacular tip.
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Good point. I've seen both many times. Usually too much money is the problem. In that case, the person holding the check has every right to ask for more money or to offer some back to whoever feels they were overly generous.
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September 6th, 2025 at 5:24:29 PM permalink
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I've been to Vegas meetups where the honor system left the person holding the bill quite short, and some where everyone paid enough that the waitress got a spectacular tip.
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Good point. I've seen both many times. Usually too much money is the problem. In that case, the person holding the check has every right to ask for more money or to offer some back to whoever feels they were overly generous.
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Isn't the best way to b it down be say $500 meal before tax and tip.

Max had the $50 ribeye steak and fries.
He had a glass of Pinot Grigio for $15
He had a $10 chocolate cake with ice cream.

Charlie had a $70 rack of lamb and potatoes.
He had a $10 au gratin dish
He had a glass of Chardonnay for $13.

Jim had fried calamari for $13
He had duck l'orange with wild rice for $40
He had a Pepsi for $5

Jerry had beef Wellington and mashed potatoes for $50.
He had a glass of Moscato for $12.
He had a Brookie for $10.

Rick had fried mozzarella cheese sticks for $11
He had Cornish hen and black rice for $20.
He had a glass of red sangria for $10


Thomas had the sirloin and lobster tail for $70
He had oysters and garlic butter dip for $20.
He had a glass of Hurricane for $11

Martin had a bowl of clam chowder soup for $10
He had the t-bone steak and loaded baked potato for $30.
He had a Bahama Mama for $10
He had a bowl of vanilla ice cream with chocolate fudge syrup and chocolate chip cookie or $10

Everybody had free water and free bread. The $500 bill is split so that everybody evenly pays for what he ate and drank and tax is $35. Everybody pays $7 for the tax. The tip at 20 percent is $107. Everybody pays roughly $15 each for the tip.

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September 6th, 2025 at 8:45:53 PM permalink
As a mathematician, I seem to be often designated to "figure out the check." I take it as a compliment. In your example with a $500 check and seven people I would add 20% for the tip and then divide by 7. Then I would say, "If we divided this equally, then everyone would owe $86. However, adjust from there according to what you think is fair according to what you ordered. Keep in mind alcoholic beverages are expensive." Hopefully I would get enough, but would have no compunction to ask for more or give back some if the pot didn't have close to $600.

By the way, if it's anyone's birthday they don't have to pay. I'm told in Germany it's the opposite and the birthday boy is supposed to pay for everyone.
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September 7th, 2025 at 6:26:15 AM permalink
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As a mathematician, I seem to be often designated to "figure out the check." I take it as a compliment. In your example with a $500 check and seven people I would add 20% for the tip and then divide by 7. Then I would say, "If we divided this equally, then everyone would owe $86. However, adjust from there according to what you think is fair according to what you ordered. Keep in mind alcoholic beverages are expensive." Hopefully I would get enough, but would have no compunction to ask for more or give back some if the pot didn't have close to $600.

By the way, if it's anyone's birthday they don't have to pay. I'm told in Germany it's the opposite and the birthday boy is supposed to pay for everyone.
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The "Evenly," meaning everybody pays $86 is what causes arguments over the bill. For example, Rick who had the Cornish hen and black rice, mozzarella cheese sticks, and red sangria only ordered $41 worth of food and drink and didn't even order any dessert will not want to pay $86. 💡
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September 8th, 2025 at 3:53:35 AM permalink
I watched a viral video where a Woman orders about $50 in food and drinks and her date only ordered about $15 in food and drinks. He refuses to pay for her and she is both outraged and disgusted in him for not paying for her meal. He defended himself by stating that he never said he was going to pay for her meal. He said he said,"Do you want to have dinner with me? Not,"I am taking you to dinner. He said there is a big difference between,"Do you want to have dinner with me?" And,"I'm taking you to dinner." One is just plain companionship, the other one is a fully paid for treat. 💡 He also pointed out that her meal was more than three times his meal. 💡
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I'm going to guess the date didn't end in sex. A man pays for a woman's meal, not for her company during the meal, but for what may happen after the meal.
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September 8th, 2025 at 9:06:23 AM permalink
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I'm going to guess the date didn't end in sex. A man pays for a woman's meal, not for her company during the meal, but for what may happen after the meal.
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He did imply that he would pay for her meal if she had sex with him. When she refused, he questioned how she was going to get home. Turns out, he picked her up from her house and drove her to the restaurant. 💡 Posters were disgusted in his,"Have sex with me or I will not take you back home," since he was the one who drove her there. They stated that it's just plain bad to only offer to pay a woman's meal if she's going to have sex with you and if she refuses you don't take her back home when you drove her there. 💡
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September 8th, 2025 at 9:38:38 AM permalink
What if it's no big deal to you, and you just pay whatever? I always put in extra. So what?

Think of it as like a gratuity, but for those you are dining with. If you don't have a problem with a gratuity for the waitress, why not? That word gratuity, comes from L. gratia meaning grace, something that you received but did not earn. That is a religious concept in some instances. We also use it in the word "gratuitous," but that word can have a negative connotation because we are usually using it in the phrases "gratuitous insult" or "gratuitous violence." In that case it means undeserved and uncalled for. "Gratuity" meaning a tip for a worker is no longer considered unearned, because of the system in which we are paying tipped workers now, but that older term remains.

So what happens if I pay this gratuity to the group?

1) Someone might have shorted the group, due to a miscalculation or just lack of money, and now they don't have to feel embarrassed or called out because there is enough money in the pool.

2) The waitress gets a big tip and is happy to see us next time. Maybe she will bring us extra stuff!

3) Somebody says "Wait we have too much. Did you put in too much? Here take this back..."

Which of those outcomes is bad? Which of those outcomes should I be willing to risk conflict to avoid?
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September 8th, 2025 at 7:16:20 PM permalink
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I've always wondered how much additional fuss it is for the waitress to do separate checks. Personally, I don't want to give them any extra work so favor "one check" with everyone being on the honor system to put in according to how much they ordered.
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Other than AP’s and a few others involved in money laundering activities, who uses cash instead of a credit card to pay for anything? I think I have around 15 Marriott nights and 10 Southwest flights accrued for not using cash.

I don’t think waitresses care about splitting a check at all.
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September 9th, 2025 at 2:27:54 AM permalink
Speaking of asking other people to buy them dinner, a guy said he won $500 in free play in a public Casino drawing. He went back to his seat and started playing the $500 in free play. Two burly men sat on both sides of him and weren't gambling and made uncomfortable "jokes," about him buying them dinner with his $500 in free play.

He felt uncomfortable and harassed and luckily a Casino Staff Member was doing the rounds and saw the uncomfortable situation and the winner gave the Casino Staff Member a "These guys are making me feel uncomfortable and harassed, please help me out!" Expression.

It was clear that these two burly men were making an uncomfortable sandwich with the Winner being the uncomfortable sandwich filling and the burly men being the bread. It was obvious what was happening since he had just publicly won $500 in free play in a Casino and looked uncomfortable with these two burly men surrounding him. And the burly men weren't gambling.

The Casino Staff Member asked the burly men to get away from the Winner and they did. The Winner admitted to the Casino Staff Member that those two burly men were making him feel uncomfortable and harassed and he thanked the Casino Staff Member for getting them away from him and tipped the Casino Staff Member a $20 for helping him out.

My God, I'd never have the audacious audacity to even think of trying to get some random Casino Player who won money in a Casino drawing to buy me dinner. 😱😳 The audacious audacity of those two burly men! 😱😳
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September 10th, 2025 at 5:03:08 AM permalink
Am I in the wrong for feeling resentful that someone I helped out in the Casino didn't give me a cut of his $500 free play as a thank you? 😐 So, a guy I was playing next to years ago had his name called for a $500 free play drawing. He had asked ME how to claim it and I told him how to claim it. He asked me to watch his machine while claimed his $500 and I watched his machine for him. He claimed his $500 and played it and didn't offer me any money for helping him out. 😐 I felt resentful as he could see I was only playing with a couple of dollars and was only playing with penny bets and didn't offer me anything. 😐 I felt even a $10 "Thank you for your help," offer would have been nice.

I mentioned this on another Website and Posters said something like,"You sound entitled and selfish. You wanted him to give you a cut of his $500 in free play just because you answered his question about how to claim his $500 free play and watched his machine for him while he claimed his $500🤨 I personally would never even think of expecting a cut of a complete Stranger's free play just because I answered a question on how to claim it and watched his machine for him while he claimed it. 🤨

What do you guys think? Was I right to feel resentful over the guy not offering me any of his $500 in free play for helping him out? 💡🤔

By the way, this guy stunk as with this drawing you had to actively be playing in order to win if your name was picked so he admitted that he had used the bathroom on himself because he didn't want to risk losing out on the drawing! 🤢🤮 Nasty! 🤢🤮
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September 10th, 2025 at 11:11:10 AM permalink
Please take it as a very valuable life lesson.

If a man or woman soils themselves in a casino, walk away. The fact that you tried to help out a mentally unstable person should be its own reward. Did you look at the situation and see a person who needed help, or did you see a person you might get some money from if you play nice with him?
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September 10th, 2025 at 11:19:38 AM permalink
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Speaking of asking other people to buy them dinner, a guy said he won $500 in free play in a public Casino drawing. He went back to his seat and started playing the $500 in free play. Two burly men sat on both sides of him and weren't gambling and made uncomfortable "jokes," about him buying them dinner with his $500 in free play.

He felt uncomfortable and harassed and luckily a Casino Staff Member was doing the rounds and saw the uncomfortable situation and the winner gave the Casino Staff Member a "These guys are making me feel uncomfortable and harassed, please help me out!" Expression.

It was clear that these two burly men were making an uncomfortable sandwich with the Winner being the uncomfortable sandwich filling and the burly men being the bread. It was obvious what was happening since he had just publicly won $500 in free play in a Casino and looked uncomfortable with these two burly men surrounding him. And the burly men weren't gambling.

The Casino Staff Member asked the burly men to get away from the Winner and they did. The Winner admitted to the Casino Staff Member that those two burly men were making him feel uncomfortable and harassed and he thanked the Casino Staff Member for getting them away from him and tipped the Casino Staff Member a $20 for helping him out.

My God, I'd never have the audacious audacity to even think of trying to get some random Casino Player who won money in a Casino drawing to buy me dinner. 😱😳 The audacious audacity of those two burly men! 😱😳
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Oldest trick in the book. The slot attendant brings in two burly gentlemen(nephews, no doubt) to harass free play winners and then rescues the winner, earning a nice tip in the process. It's a win-win situation. Either the Burly Men get a free meal and toss the Slot attendant a kickback for their two free meals, or the SA kicks back some of the $20 tip to the Burly Men.
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September 10th, 2025 at 11:44:49 AM permalink
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Please take it as a very valuable life lesson.

If a man or woman soils themselves in a casino, walk away. The fact that you tried to help out a mentally unstable person should be its own reward. Did you look at the situation and see a person who needed help, or did you see a person you might get some money from if you play nice with him?
You did a nice thing. Please don't ruin it by looking to get paid for it.
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My opinion: just like you are not really a hockey player as long as you have 32 teeth, you are not really an AP until you've had an Alan Shepard "Do it in the suit!" moment because the +EV was too good to leave the table. Anyone can pocket a win; enduring the tragedies en route is what proves your mettle.

Not the only time I've had urine on me in a casino. One time I'm playing, and next to me at the table was an elderly man, and I think in no condition where he should be unattended. But there he was, and he fell out of his chair. I got up to pick him up and put him back in his chair, and he had urinated and it was all over me.

What did I do? I had a positive count and deep pen, only one thing I could do- keep spreading!
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September 11th, 2025 at 6:28:50 PM permalink
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Speaking of asking other people to buy them dinner, a guy said he won $500 in free play in a public Casino drawing. He went back to his seat and started playing the $500 in free play. Two burly men sat on both sides of him and weren't gambling and made uncomfortable "jokes," about him buying them dinner with his $500 in free play.

He felt uncomfortable and harassed and luckily a Casino Staff Member was doing the rounds and saw the uncomfortable situation and the winner gave the Casino Staff Member a "These guys are making me feel uncomfortable and harassed, please help me out!" Expression.

It was clear that these two burly men were making an uncomfortable sandwich with the Winner being the uncomfortable sandwich filling and the burly men being the bread. It was obvious what was happening since he had just publicly won $500 in free play in a Casino and looked uncomfortable with these two burly men surrounding him. And the burly men weren't gambling.

The Casino Staff Member asked the burly men to get away from the Winner and they did. The Winner admitted to the Casino Staff Member that those two burly men were making him feel uncomfortable and harassed and he thanked the Casino Staff Member for getting them away from him and tipped the Casino Staff Member a $20 for helping him out.

My God, I'd never have the audacious audacity to even think of trying to get some random Casino Player who won money in a Casino drawing to buy me dinner. 😱😳 The audacious audacity of those two burly men! 😱😳
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Oldest trick in the book. The slot attendant brings in two burly gentlemen(nephews, no doubt) to harass free play winners and then rescues the winner, earning a nice tip in the process. It's a win-win situation. Either the Burly Men get a free meal and toss the Slot attendant a kickback for their two free meals, or the SA6Casin kicks back some of the $20 tip to the Burly Men.
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On another Website, I did mention the fact that maybe the Casino Staff Member was actually in on the harassing and splits the tips with the burly men and probably does this everytime there is a big winner in a Casino drawing. Posters responded something like, "Your Theory makes sense in theory, but in reality, Casino Management would soon get VERY suspicious of the SAME Casino Staff Member making the rounds and just happening to be near the two burly men and the Casino drawing winner.

Also, I question why the two burly men are A, not only harassing someone who only won $500 in free play and not in cash, he most likely will get about $200 in cash, and B, why they were harassing a complete Stranger for dinner and not harassing him for say $20 cash for each of them for whatever cash he got. A lot of people won't buy a complete Stranger dinner, but will give them some cash in order to get them to leave them alone. "
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September 15th, 2025 at 2:32:59 AM permalink
In the iconic Jaws theme, the song sounding "Far away," means Jaws is far away, but he's definitely coming. 😀🥶(Smiling uneasily) The VERY pounding sound means Jaws is HERE! 😱😳 What is VERY interesting however is the weird part where the music lures you into an INCREDIBLY false sense of security. The music gets VERY poppy and happy, but there is STILL the "Far away," sound undertone meaning that Jaws is far away but he's definitely coming. 😀🥶I like that you THINK the danger is over when the poppy and happy music plays, 😀 but no, Jaws is definitely still coming even while the poppy and happy music is playing! 😱😳
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September 15th, 2025 at 5:43:37 PM permalink
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so he admitted that he had used the bathroom on himself because he didn't want to risk losing out on the drawing! 🤢🤮 Nasty! 🤢🤮
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I REFUSE TO BELIVE THIS PART OF THE STORY.

I think there is enough evidence and reasons to show why my refusal to believe this is warranted.
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so he admitted that he had used the bathroom on himself because he didn't want to risk losing out on the drawing! 🤢🤮 Nasty! 🤢🤮
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I REFUSE TO BELIVE THIS PART OF THE STORY.

I think there is enough evidence and reasons to show why my refusal to believe this is warranted.
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September 15th, 2025 at 6:08:38 PM permalink
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so he admitted that he had used the bathroom on himself because he didn't want to risk losing out on the drawing! 🤢🤮 Nasty! 🤢🤮
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I REFUSE TO BELIVE THIS PART OF THE STORY.

I think there is enough evidence and reasons to show why my refusal to believe this is warranted.
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He really did use the bathroom on himself because he didn't want to risk losing out on the drawing. 💡
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September 16th, 2025 at 9:59:50 AM permalink
A Woman on YouTube comments commented something like,"I smoked for around 36 years and one day I thought,"I don't WANT to smoke anymore!" And quit. The huge amount of money I spent for cigarettes for around 36 years makes me sick every single time I think about it.

I, Nathan, calculated a pack of Capri cigarettes at $16.05 times 365 for 36 years and it was around $211,000 and that's not even counting leap years, gum, or ashtrays and lighters! 😱😳

I saw a billboard about anti cigarettes saying something like,"A pack of cigarettes a day for a year is equal to a new bike. Which seems BETTER to you? Cigarettes or a bike? "💡
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