Women have zero accountability towards men
Quote: AxelWolfThat may be true, but the damage a men do is far greater.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally…
woman cuts of man's penis—TWICE!
Quote: darthxaosInternalized misandry at it's finest.
Men don't rape people. RAPISTS rape people. And RAPISTS are a small fraction of men.
But generalizing about women in this thread is acceptable. Try again.
also, don't mischaracterize my post -- I never used rape, as opposed to assault, or even harassment.
Quote: AxelWolfThat may be true, but the damage a men do is far greater.
http://www.delcotimes.com/general-news/20150330/girlfriend-of-slain-darby-borough-cop-now-charged-with-domestic-incident-from-last-summer
Quote: rxwineBut generalizing about women in this thread is acceptable.
It might be a generalization but it is true.
Would you have "stepped to" the woman at the gas station and proceeded to get in her face and tell her what you thought of her and her actions—what if she smacked you?
Do you think society would not have stepped in and prevented you from confronting her? Don't you think she knows this? relies on this?
Quote: darthxaosInternalized misandry at it's finest.
Men don't rape people. RAPISTS rape people. And RAPISTS are a small fraction of men.
Very well said.
I think women's fears [or men's] is a leftover from evolution. A fear of walking alone on a deserted street in the dark by women [or men] is more a fear of something leaping out and eating us more than a fear of sexual predation.
The "boogeyman" is under the bed. Google; "the fears we are born with" http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/430078.html Two popular thoughts are we are born with the fear of falling and loud noises.
Quote: aceofspadesIt might be a generalization but it is true.
Would you have "stepped to" the woman at the gas station and proceeded to get in her face and tell her what you thought of her and her actions—what if she smacked you?
I only get in people's faces when I feel wronged enough to be bothered. Or sometimes if I am just in a bad mood. Hard to say.
So, you've never seen a man and woman who are strangers fighting over something. Disagreeing on who is right and sometimes even shouting?
Quote: rxwineI only get in people's faces when I feel wronged enough to be bothered. Or sometimes if I am just in a bad mood. Hard to say.
So, you've never seen a man and woman who are strangers fighting over something. Disagreeing on who is right and sometimes even shouting?
Yes I see it all the time and it is usually the woman escalating the matter as the man is trying to walk away as she knows he cannot do anything to her that he could do to a man.
Quote: aceofspadesYes I see it all the time and it is usually the woman escalating the matter as the man is trying to walk away as she knows he cannot do anything to her that he could do to a man.
So you want your arguments to end in assault or something else? I'm not clear what you mean.
Quote: ]... And, nobody is saying all women are evil[/qToss whoever said that off the island. He went to far.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Quote: rxwineSo you want your arguments to end in assault or something else? I'm not clear what you mean.
The point of this thread:
1—woman acts like an a-hole by speeding into the gasoline pump I was pulling into, almost colliding with my car
2—I give her a shrug of my shoulders and say "what are you doing?"
3—she flips me the finger
4—rather than end it here—she walks by my car and sarcastically says "Ya snooze ya lose"
I am saying (a) a man would likely not have taken the chance of speeding into the pump I was taking knowing an altercation could happen…(b) the only reason the woman felt empowered to do this is because society holds women to a different standard (which I believe RS equated to "childlike")…(c ) if I did attempt any retaliation for this wrong, all the men at the gas station would have ganged up on me rather than the wrongdoer
I have to be careful, my GF is lurking around, I don't want to end up in the hospital.Quote: aceofspadesSo if they are fearful of men, why act out like this lady did towards a man…? It cannot be rectified with what you are saying—is this woman merely an outlier - I think not
I am sure 99% of the men here have stories of women behaving like this woman did — perhaps we can get them to share those stories?
EvenBob? axel? Bacc79? RS?
Quote: aceofspadesReeeeeeeeeeeeeeally…
woman cuts of man's penis—TWICE!
I didn't notice this link the first time. I thought you were keeping the discussion to western civilization.
If you include the rest of the world in the unfairness toward men, you will surely lose your argument.
There are complete cultures as you know that mutilate women. In China [where the link comes from] often female babies are killed at birth.
Quote: AxelWolfThat may be true, but the damage a men do is far greater.
You mean physical damage? Or legal damage? Because women certainly have a monopoly on legal damage.
And, even if you speak of physical damage. How many men get in loads of trouble for lightly slapping or hitting their wives, the same thing that women routinely do to the husbands and nobody gives it a second thought?
Now it is very fair to say that the reason this is the case is because this crime is not harshly enforced against women. And, the lack of social pressure against women is even less. If it was equal very likely the rates would be equal. But women do it because they know they will get away with it.
It is a double standard all around. Watch stories on various channels (like the view) where women get arrested for cutting off the penis of a man who they suspected or caught cheating or similar crimes. The women sit around and laugh about how she did it. If a man suspected his woman of cheating and sexually mutilated her and a group of men laughed and made jokes about it, how would the reaction be? (Well the reaction in America, in some countries of a certain religion this is commonplace).
But in America and the West in general, women have such a long leash as far as violence and assault especially against their husbands and boyfriends.
But, rape, rape against women at any rate, must be taken verbatim with no trial or chance of appeal from the alleged perpetrator.
Feminism is a NeoFascist ideology that wants men to be constantly in a hot seat, and women are never guilty, and if they are it is a rare instance and not indicative of a social problem. But, every male perpetraor is a problem of males in general, or the "social hierarchy".
Quote: aceofspadesall the men at the gas station would have ganged up on me rather than the wrongdoer
Sounds like a man problem with the men's idea of things you're complaining about.
Who is responsible for their own actions? The men for theirs and the women for theirs.
Quote: petroglyphQuote: aceofspadesReeeeeeeeeeeeeeally…
woman cuts of man's penis!
I didn't notice this link the first time. I thought you were keeping the discussion to western civilization.
If you include the rest of the world in the unfairness toward men, you will surely lose your argument.
There are complete cultures as you know that mutilate women.
Link fixed so it directs to an American case
Quote: rxwineSounds like a man problem with the men's idea of things you're complaining about.
Who is responsible for their own actions? The men for theirs and the women for theirs.
I am not complaining about what the other men would do - I am just stating a fact that like you appear to be, they would be White Knights
Quote: rxwineSounds like a man problem with the men's idea of things you're complaining about.
Who is responsible for their own actions? The men for theirs and the women for theirs.
Hopefully everyone of both genders is responsible for their actions.
Quote: GandlerHopefully everyone of both genders is responsible for their actions.
If a woman tells a man her tubes are tied and she cannot have children…and then gets pregnant, guess who is financially responsible for the child…?
Quote: aceofspadesIf a woman tells a man her tubes are tied and she cannot have children…and then gets pregnant, guess who is financially responsible for the child…?
I know that the man is. At least in America. But this should not be the case. Women have far more reproductive rights than men, even if they claim otherwise (in America).
depending on the neighborhood, probably the government.Quote: aceofspadesIf a woman tells a man her tubes are tied and she cannot have children…and then gets pregnant, guess who is financially responsible for the child…?
worst customers. When a lot of women drink,
their ugly side comes out and they know they
can get away with things men never could.
Like hitting and slapping their husbands or
boyfriends. This happened often enough and
they know you can't throw them out for it
because if you touch them, they'll scream
assault. Cops will arrest women for hitting
a guy now, but not in 1980. I would call the
cops and they'd escort her out, and 5min later
she would be right back.
I totally believe women hit men just as often
as men hit women. Alcohol lowers their
inhibitions. Saw lots of women get into cat fights,
punching and hair pulling. There was one
middle aged woman with money who lived
in the mountains by herself. She would take
a cab to the bar and sit near the door. After
90 min or so, she would assault men as they
were leaving. Just haul off and slug them.
I kicked her out and kicked her out and
begged the guys to press charges. None of
them would. Too embarrassed.
Quote: Gandler
Feminism is a NeoFascist ideology that wants men to be constantly in a hot seat, and women are never guilty, and if they are it is a rare instance and not indicative of a social problem. But, every male perpetraor is a problem of males in general, or the "social hierarchy".
Watch what happens when you change just a couple words in Jessica Valenti's headlines...
https://youtu.be/LtWQXLHIlAM
Preach on! (some adult language)
Perhaps I have been unfortunately blessed, but in my travels I have encountered and worked with a lot more than a handful of "do-gooders" whose motivation -- at least the primary one -- was to help others or problematic situations in general without any expectation of significant repayment. And every single one of them in post-service conversations gave deeply heartfelt testimony as to how rewarding the feeling was. The human experience offers many opportunities for exhilaration like romantic and familial love, intellectual and artistic creation, financial success (nod to gambling winners), not to mention what we can do to improve the lives of others and the world in general.Quote: petroglyphDo you think those drawn to you are doing it for your benefit? Why is it, that people do good, or give?
Quote: rxwineI've appreciated more than once being able to go alone at night somewhere, where women often fear to go alone. And I'm not talking about places that aren't safe for everyone, just in general, out alone at night. Walk down the sidewalk alone. I don't need a friend or a dog or mace to feel okay about it.
If men don't notice that ability, they must be willfully oblivious.
I really disagree with everything on this statement...
1) If I'm walking down a sidewalk in an unfamiliar town/etc I don't always feel safe, and I'm frequently on my guard.
2) This is basically saying women need something/somebody else to feel safe. They need no one else other than themselves, they too have the ability. I've been doing MMA as a hobby for about 7+ years and I can tell you first hand a woman can easily handle a man twice her size if she's trained and he is not.
I also hate how women make this argument too about not feeling safe, or fearing an attack of some sort. It's up to THEM to get the TRAINING they need to be able to handle THEMSELVES in those situations. They don't need a dog, mace, or a male counter-part unless they want those things. Point being, they do not need them to be safe.
Quote: RomesI really disagree with everything on this statement...
1) If I'm walking down a sidewalk in an unfamiliar town/etc I don't always feel safe, and I'm frequently on my guard.
2) This is basically saying women need something/somebody else to feel safe. They need no one else other than themselves, they too have the ability. I've been doing MMA as a hobby for about 7+ years and I can tell you first hand a woman can easily handle a man twice her size if she's trained and he is not.
I also hate how women make this argument too about not feeling safe, or fearing an attack of some sort. It's up to THEM to get the TRAINING they need to be able to handle THEMSELVES in those situations. They don't need a dog, mace, or a male counter-part unless they want those things. Point being, they do not need them to be safe.
I think you missed the point.
Anyway, perhaps I could take a gopro, record all the places I can go feeling safe at night and not carry a weapon, and I am not a trained fighter. Then we just need a very average woman do the same thing alone, no weapons or training, and she can't be mistaken for an amazon or Bluto. Just like me, there will be no assistance if anything goes badly for them.
Quote: AxelWolfdepending on the neighborhood, probably the government.
Funnily enough, women never pull this scam on the broke bums who have no (legal) income for them to garnish.
Probably cause those guys don't care enough to use protection in the first place.
It's always the nice guys with semi-decent jobs who get taken by these people. And that job stops being semi-decent once Mr Nice guy is on the hook paying child support for a kid he never wanted, suddenly he's a wage slave barely scraping enough to survive after she gets her cut.
Quote: aceofspadesThe point of this thread is women's behaviors towards men that men would never get a pass on from other men (i.e. what the woman felt "safe" in doing and how she acted after doing so towards me at the gas station) — not what men can do alone or women can do alone (men can choose to walk down a dark street, but so can women) - women can give birth, men cannot — men produce sperm, women cannot — the differences between the genders is not in question here - actually, I am stating there are differences in the genders - but, that is not the point of this thread
I really think the point of this thread is, "Why did YOU give her a pass on her bad behavior?" Had it been me in your place, I would not have. Rudeness and discourtesy are the hallmark of disintegrating society, and every time someone is rude and is not called to account for it, the problem increases. Not just because the rude person needs, at the least, to be called out for their thoughtlessness, but because selfish and rude actions are contagious to third parties.
If a song contains an obscenity, and instead of being condemned for it, becomes infamous and popular, it will be imitated by other artists, as has happened over the last 30 years. If a person cuts in line and is not called out for it, those in that line are that much more likely to cut the next line themselves. On and on, a hundred different examples a thousand times a day, a million different places. It's exponential decay.
If you feel so strongly about it, stop writing it off to gender BS and start leading by example, both in your own manner and by calling it out when you see it. And I have to say, every time you've responded, and the OP itself, make the gender inequality exactly your point of this thread (re: your last clause). Take back your world.
"B**ches be crazy"Quote: darthxaosFunnily enough, women never pull this scam on the broke bums who have no (legal) income for them to garnish.
Probably cause those guys don't care enough to use protection in the first place.
It's always the nice guys with semi-decent jobs who get taken by these people. And that job stops being semi-decent once Mr Nice guy is on the hook paying child support for a kid he never wanted, suddenly he's a wage slave barely scraping enough to survive after she gets her cut.
In my mid 20's few months after a split from an ex GF (I went from a blonde to a redhead) . I moved, but not far. Not because of her, I just wanted a bigger place. I wasn't hard to find anyways, I was either at the casino or the billiards club, where I meet them both, separately of course.
She seen my car and unexpectedly stopped by to visited me. *knock knock knock* My new GF spent the night, so I asked her to answer the door. Of course she let her in( love (new ones love talking to your ex GFs given the opportunity)
No bid deal, it was a polite conversation until she admitted she purposely went off birth control to get pregnant, because she feared I was going to break up with her.
Her fears were correct. Because luckily I did break up with her before that happened. She was a extremely jealous spoiled little brat. She would actually get pissed if I watched TV shows with hot girls.
Quote: beachbumbabsI really think the point of this thread is, "Why did YOU give her a pass on her bad behavior?" Had it been me in your place, I would not have. Rudeness and discourtesy are the hallmark of disintegrating society, and every time someone is rude and is not called to account for it, the problem increases. Not just because the rude person needs, at the least, to be called out for their thoughtlessness, but because selfish and rude actions are contagious to third parties.
If a song contains an obscenity, and instead of being condemned for it, becomes infamous and popular, it will be imitated by other artists, as has happened over the last 30 years. If a person cuts in line and is not called out for it, those in that line are that much more likely to cut the next line themselves. On and on, a hundred different examples a thousand times a day, a million different places. It's exponential decay.
If you feel so strongly about it, stop writing it off to gender BS and start leading by example, both in your own manner and by calling it out when you see it. And I have to say, every time you've responded, and the OP itself, make the gender inequality exactly your point of this thread (re: your last clause). Take back your world.
You confronting the WOMAN that did this (or a MAN) is a totally different scenario than me confronting the woman
The reward, is in initiating the act of kindness and is taken up front, [vig on the buy] the giver gets the warm fuzzy feeling of being a giver, regardless of whether or not the receiver wishes to receive. Not unlike those that go door to door "spreading the word". They get some moral mental intoxicant out of the exchange even if the door opener detests the encounter.Quote: SanchoPanzaPerhaps I have been unfortunately blessed, but in my travels I have encountered and worked with a lot more than a handful of "do-gooders" whose motivation -- at least the primary one -- was to help others or problematic situations in general without any expectation of significant repayment. And every single one of them in post-service conversations gave deeply heartfelt testimony as to how rewarding the feeling was.
I am somewhat of a do-gooder myself, as well as my wife, and we also feel extremely well compensated. My interpretation of the reason people give, is more so for their own benefit, whether they realize it or not. And that is fine. This is the basis for the cliche, "it is better to give then receive". We do it, because it makes us feel good. The receiver is only tertiary, to the experience.
When I tip a dealer 2$ and they automatically say thank you, who got the most out of the deal? Is it me because of compassionate feelings that make me feel as though I have done my bit for humanity, or is it the lowly dealer who has to share that 2$ with others? My dear bride has rung the bell for the Salvation Army for years, donates blood,member of the Lyons, the American Legion, the VFW and more. The love of my life, and mentor tells me,"you don't have anything unless you give it away", I wrestle at times with that paradox.
While taking a searching and fearless moral inventory, I ask myself, why do people give, and others only take? Those that give often do so because, it makes them feel better. They aren't necessarily giving for the benefit of the receiver.
Thanks for the reply, Sancho. I am making an effort daily, to lighten my negative responses to inputs. My apologies, for my cynicism and I am glad that you remarked about my sad comment being lamentable. FWIW, I am trying to proceed to the acceptance stage of grief, at times I find myself floundering. It actually helps when people point it out, lightly and in a good way.Quote:The human experience offers many opportunities for exhilaration like romantic and familial love, intellectual and artistic creation, financial success (nod to gambling winners), not to mention what we can do to improve the lives of others and the world in general.
Quote: beachbumbabsI really think the point of this thread is, "Why did YOU give her a pass on her bad behavior?" Had it been me in your place, I would not have. Rudeness and discourtesy are the hallmark of disintegrating society, and every time someone is rude and is not called to account for it, the problem increases. Not just because the rude person needs, at the least, to be called out for their thoughtlessness, but because selfish and rude actions are contagious to third parties.
If a song contains an obscenity, and instead of being condemned for it, becomes infamous and popular, it will be imitated by other artists, as has happened over the last 30 years. If a person cuts in line and is not called out for it, those in that line are that much more likely to cut the next line themselves. On and on, a hundred different examples a thousand times a day, a million different places. It's exponential decay.
If you feel so strongly about it, stop writing it off to gender BS and start leading by example, both in your own manner and by calling it out when you see it. And I have to say, every time you've responded, and the OP itself, make the gender inequality exactly your point of this thread (re: your last clause). Take back your world.
Its far easier for a female to confront a female. His point was he could not call her out for it or hit her because she is a female, and he would be socially and legally destroyed.
It is "gender BS" because the fact that they are different genders means that he has to tread carefully and she can tread as carelessly as she wants.
I think part of the problem is where women feel they have been wronged in the past and want to make up for it. I'm not saying women haven't been wronged in the past, though. But it's more like they want to get ahead of men. It's just like the racial "divide" (???). I don't know how many people I heard years ago saying, "I'm going to vote for Obama just because he's black" / "I want a black president" / "I hope we get a black president" / etc. Everyone was OKAY with that. But when I said, "I'm voting for McCain because he's white" everyone flips their sh*t. It's "ok" to support someone because they're black, but it's "not ok" to support someone because he's white? And I heard plenty of the same argument: Wanting Hilary Clinton to become president because she's a woman.
Although I support equality (when necessary).....it seems like as soon as some "agenda" [I don't mean it in a bad way, couldn't think of a better word] starts to be made public (ie: women's rights.....or the more recent "police brutality" stuff), everyone gets on this gravy-train and starts supporting it. I think a big chunk of it comes from people who are "scared to be racist/sexist/anti-minority/etc." Or rather, as soon as a lot of people start supporting something (ie: gay marriage) a lot of people start thinking, "I don't want to be seen as anti-gay" so they start to support gay-marriage.
As soon as you start to get more backed up by the public, you feel more empowered. And when your demographic is in that spot (becoming empowered), you can get away with things that you shouldn't be able to get away with.
On top of that, there's a lot of BS about women being treated less than men (in the US). A common misconception is that women are paid 70% (or something like that) of what men are paid. [The "wage gap" propaganda.] However, that's not the case. Perhaps women overall take in 70% as much income as men do....but there aren't equal amounts of women and men (in the same jobs/fields). For instance, women tend to take lower paying jobs, like teaching and child-care....while men tend to take higher paying jobs (law, engineering, business). On top of that, many women tend to not have paying jobs....ie: stay at home mothers. [It's a job....but you don't get paid to do it.]
So, I think there's also some propaganda in there, too.
Quote: aceofspadesAs the apocryphal quote attributed to Freud states: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
Ironically, I believe Sigmund Freud died of cancer from smoking (~20 cigars a day?).
Quote: mcallister3200ELE! Everybody love everybody! Come on guys!
I do love everybody, as far as individually liking everybody, well, that's a different story
Quote: RSIn my opinion, women can get away with a lot of stuff that men can't get away with. A simple example is the commercial posted by AoS with the chick touching the basketball player. Women can get away with weird sexual stuff. For example, a woman buys a dildo and it's seen as naughty. A guy buys a fleshlight and it's seen as creepy. A girl grabs a guy's ass and it's seen as OK -- but a guy grabbing a girl's ass is not OK / creepy / sexual harassment. [Granted, the guy could file a sexual-harassment complaint against her, but even then, it's seen as a "Why does this guy care if a girl grabs his ass?" kind of thing.]
I think part of the problem is where women feel they have been wronged in the past and want to make up for it. I'm not saying women haven't been wronged in the past, though. But it's more like they want to get ahead of men. It's just like the racial "divide" (???). I don't know how many people I heard years ago saying, "I'm going to vote for Obama just because he's black" / "I want a black president" / "I hope we get a black president" / etc. Everyone was OKAY with that. But when I said, "I'm voting for McCain because he's white" everyone flips their sh*t. It's "ok" to support someone because they're black, but it's "not ok" to support someone because he's white? And I heard plenty of the same argument: Wanting Hilary Clinton to become president because she's a woman.
Although I support equality (when necessary).....it seems like as soon as some "agenda" [I don't mean it in a bad way, couldn't think of a better word] starts to be made public (ie: women's rights.....or the more recent "police brutality" stuff), everyone gets on this gravy-train and starts supporting it. I think a big chunk of it comes from people who are "scared to be racist/sexist/anti-minority/etc." Or rather, as soon as a lot of people start supporting something (ie: gay marriage) a lot of people start thinking, "I don't want to be seen as anti-gay" so they start to support gay-marriage.
As soon as you start to get more backed up by the public, you feel more empowered. And when your demographic is in that spot (becoming empowered), you can get away with things that you shouldn't be able to get away with.An odd example would be the Trayvon Martin // Zimmerman thing. People made the entire thing about race and support Trayvon because he was black, forgetting about everything else in that circumstance.
On top of that, there's a lot of BS about women being treated less than men (in the US). A common misconception is that women are paid 70% (or something like that) of what men are paid. [The "wage gap" propaganda.] However, that's not the case. Perhaps women overall take in 70% as much income as men do....but there aren't equal amounts of women and men (in the same jobs/fields). For instance, women tend to take lower paying jobs, like teaching and child-care....while men tend to take higher paying jobs (law, engineering, business). On top of that, many women tend to not have paying jobs....ie: stay at home mothers. [It's a job....but you don't get paid to do it.]
So, I think there's also some propaganda in there, too.
Ironically, I believe Sigmund Freud died of cancer from smoking (~20 cigars a day?).
I think you make several points. I do think there was a time in which there was a real divide between rights of men and women, or blacks and whites. There are no Jim Crow laws anymore. Blacks and Whites both live under the same umbrella of the law, where the laws are the same for everyone (some may argue about enforcement but let's save that for another time). They are entitled to the same protections, same rights, same everything. It's completely up to you as an individual to perform to the standard you see fit.
Same with women, there was a time when they couldn't find work or couldn't vote. There were times in our history where women were viewed as 2nd hand citizens. Not the case today. In many households, the woman is the top breadwinner, and even in homes where she isn't, she makes 80% of the major financial decisions in the household.
If women truly earned only 77cents for every dollar a man earned, companies would only hire women.
Simplistic but amusing
Quote: darthxaos
Just got real!
(I'm awaiting women to post "Death during childbirth: 100% women; 0% men")
Quote: Gabes22I am surprised males are being awarded child custody at a 20% rate. i know of no males who have been awarded such
I recently won custody for a male client of mine :-)
Quote: Gabes22NICE! Was the woman a crackhead or unemployed or something?
No - I was able to demonstrate she was just not a good mother and I had a hardworking father who was an all-around good guy
Quote: Area51I think the best answer to the whole scenario is to be ready with double entendre response that make idiots like that feel they got the best of you while you can smile to yourself and tell your friends how it went. Makes you feel a whole bunch better than you do when you've simply been screwed over. Just have to think fast on your feet.
So when she flipped me off then walked by my car and said "Ya snooze Ya lose!", what would your retort have been?
Quote: aceofspadesSo when she flipped me off then walked by my car and said "Ya snooze Ya lose!", what would your retort have been?
See the Walter White video above. :^)
Quote: darthxaosSee the Walter White video above. :^)
Better Call Saul
I have thought about this post and try to visualize the why of it. I think the majority of the responses are prejudice, posters vocalizing on past unfairness realized or imagined.
I think there is a good possibility that this woman is suffering a great deal for reasons we will not know. But if we take a break from thinking these thoughts that she was thinking along the lines of the gist of this thread [womens lib] and stop to consider how much pain she was in, our thoughts might go a little easier on her. Hasn't each of us responded in the past curtly, or short and later wished we hadn't? I have.
Just for a minute Ace, consider that she may have just lost her beloved dog, her companion, her closet friend. She may have been in self destruct mode, just hoping to get in a fight or anything that may break the chain of agony she was feeling.
I know you deal with some awful people, but even wonderful people have awful moments. I certainly have reacted to situations which later on, I wish I had responded differently.
Consider briefly, that her actions were not her normal behavior, and her suffering was manifesting in this undesirable way? Otherwise, we can continue to go on, believing the worst of everyone. Continue going on this rant, hating on women [or men] and it will only fester. Hate breeds hate and contempt the same thing.
If we knew this person and this was her continual behavior it would be our duty to try to help her see her evil ways, but a one off circumstance hardly gives us the experience to judge the whole female species.
I am sorry if all you men have only experienced these kind of women, or for the women that only meet men that are users and abusers. I repeat regularly that I realize I got lucky. My woman, my wife, is not this way. She is the best person [regardless of gender] that I have ever met . Absolutely wonderful people are pretty rare, regardless of sex.
I ask you to consider this women was in pain, and not the status quo, or representative of the entire female race. If you can't break that train of thought, you will be miserable forever. I was for a long time, and it cost me. There is peace beyond misogyny/mysandry. Life is already hard enough, give compassion a chance.
I think Ace, you too were suffering and weren't at your personal best either. You are a good person and I think under different circumstances you may have figured a way to make this unpleasant encounter better.
Quote: petroglyphWhat this person did was certainly rude and her actions are not what I personally would teach my children.
I have thought about this post and try to visualize the why of it. I think the majority of the responses are prejudice, posters vocalizing on past unfairness realized or imagined.
I think there is a good possibility that this woman is suffering a great deal for reasons we will not know. But if we take a break from thinking these thoughts that she was thinking along the lines of the gist of this thread [womens lib] and stop to consider how much pain she was in, our thoughts might go a little easier on her. Hasn't each of us responded in the past curtly, or short and later wished we hadn't? I have.
Just for a minute Ace, consider that she may have just lost her beloved dog, her companion, her closet friend. She may have been in self destruct mode, just hoping to get in a fight or anything that may break the chain of agony she was feeling.
I know you deal with some awful people, but even wonderful people have awful moments. I certainly have reacted to situations which later on, I wish I had responded differently.
Consider briefly, that her actions were not her normal behavior, and her suffering was manifesting in this undesirable way? Otherwise, we can continue to go on, believing the worst of everyone. Continue going on this rant, hating on women [or men] and it will only fester. Hate breeds hate and contempt the same thing.
If we knew this person and this was her continual behavior it would be our duty to try to help her see her evil ways, but a one off circumstance hardly gives us the experience to judge the whole female species.
I am sorry if all you men have only experienced these kind of women, or for the women that only meet men that are users and abusers. I repeat regularly that I realize I got lucky. My woman, my wife, is not this way. She is the best person [regardless of gender] that I have ever met . Absolutely wonderful people are pretty rare, regardless of sex.
I ask you to consider this women was in pain, and not the status quo, or representative of the entire female race. If you can't break that train of thought, you will be miserable forever. I was for a long time, and it cost me. There is peace beyond misogyny/mysandry. Life is already hard enough, give compassion a chance.
I think Ace, you too were suffering and weren't at your personal best either. You are a good person and I think under different circumstances you may have figured a way to make this unpleasant encounter better.
Thanks for that.
Quote: petroglyphWhat this person did was certainly rude and her actions are not what I personally would teach my children.
I have thought about this post and try to visualize the why of it. I think the majority of the responses are prejudice, posters vocalizing on past unfairness realized or imagined.
I think there is a good possibility that this woman is suffering a great deal for reasons we will not know. But if we take a break from thinking these thoughts that she was thinking along the lines of the gist of this thread [womens lib] and stop to consider how much pain she was in, our thoughts might go a little easier on her. Hasn't each of us responded in the past curtly, or short and later wished we hadn't? I have.
Just for a minute Ace, consider that she may have just lost her beloved dog, her companion, her closet friend. She may have been in self destruct mode, just hoping to get in a fight or anything that may break the chain of agony she was feeling.
I know you deal with some awful people, but even wonderful people have awful moments. I certainly have reacted to situations which later on, I wish I had responded differently.
Consider briefly, that her actions were not her normal behavior, and her suffering was manifesting in this undesirable way? Otherwise, we can continue to go on, believing the worst of everyone. Continue going on this rant, hating on women [or men] and it will only fester. Hate breeds hate and contempt the same thing.
If we knew this person and this was her continual behavior it would be our duty to try to help her see her evil ways, but a one off circumstance hardly gives us the experience to judge the whole female species.
I am sorry if all you men have only experienced these kind of women, or for the women that only meet men that are users and abusers. I repeat regularly that I realize I got lucky. My woman, my wife, is not this way. She is the best person [regardless of gender] that I have ever met . Absolutely wonderful people are pretty rare, regardless of sex.
I ask you to consider this women was in pain, and not the status quo, or representative of the entire female race. If you can't break that train of thought, you will be miserable forever. I was for a long time, and it cost me. There is peace beyond misogyny/mysandry. Life is already hard enough, give compassion a chance.
I think Ace, you too were suffering and weren't at your personal best either. You are a good person and I think under different circumstances you may have figured a way to make this unpleasant encounter better.
Why should he have to think about some hypothetical that may or may not have happened? The woman was a jerk and he didn't respond in kind. He was the bigger person in this scenario. In every aspect of our life we are trained not to bring our baggage with us. We are told at work to not bring our problems from home, or when we get home to not let problems at our job affect our home lives. Why can we not expect this woman to not bring problems (if there really are any in the first place) out on some random dude at the gas station? Is that really so much to expect from her?
