Women have zero accountability towards men
I was pulling into a gas station and was turning to get next to a pump—as I was pulling up to the pump, a woman (about 35 years old from the looks of it), sped in from the opposite direction, slamming on her brakes before almost hitting the front of my SUV.
I looked at her and raised my shoulders and said "What are you doing?"
She flips me the bird
Gets out of her car and, as she walks past my passenger side window, looks at me and says "Ya snooze ya lose"
WTF!!!
If this was a man, there would have been words and likely physical altercation…
However, I hypothesize the following:
1—a man would not do this, knowing that doing something like this could lead to a fight;
2—a woman does this because, despite being "equal", knows that 99.9% of males in society will do nothing in response
As such, she can cut off someone in line for gas, flip them off and then continue to be the aggressor by mouthing off to the male as she passes his window.
This is why chivalry is dead and men and women will never be "equal" — women will never be accountable to men in these types of situations because society condones said behavior and prohibits men from acting like they would if another man did this to them.
I am not advocating for violence at all but, you cannot tell me that this whole scenario would have been different if it was a male that did this to me.
However, I'm with you that a gentleman never insults a lady, no matter how deserving of it.
Quote: aceofspadesI have learned throughout my years on the planet Earth, and, most recently, about an hour ago, that, for all of the feminists that continually shout that men and women are equal and must be treated the same, there is no way they would actually want this — why, well, here is what just happened to me:
I was pulling into a gas station and was turning to get next to a pump—as I was pulling up to the pump, a woman (about 35 years old from the looks of it), sped in from the opposite direction, slamming on her brakes before almost hitting the front of my SUV.
I looked at her and raised my shoulders and said "What are you doing?"
She flips me the bird
Gets out of her car and, as she walks past my passenger side window, looks at me and says "Ya snooze ya lose"
WTF!!!
If this was a man, there would have been words and likely physical altercation…
However, I hypothesize the following:
1—a man would not do this, knowing that doing something like this could lead to a fight;
2—a woman does this because, despite being "equal", knows that 99.9% of males in society will do nothing in response
As such, she can cut off someone in line for gas, flip them off and then continue to be the aggressor by mouthing off to the male as she passes his window.
This is why chivalry is dead and men and women will never be "equal" — women will never be accountable to men in these types of situations because society condones said behavior and prohibits men from acting like they would if another man did this to them.
I am not advocating for violence at all but, you cannot tell me that this whole scenario would have been different if it was a male that did this to me.
I can offer some insight: 1) She was on her wonderful monthly exciting mood changing 'rag'; 2) She just returned late last night from a weekend in Atlantic City where she drank her way through gambling to forget her miserable Long Island housewife life married to probably some author who get survive off his royalties; 3) Her 'boy-toy' was just observed at a Northern Boulevard dinner with a younger female his own age; 4) She took a good long look in the mirror this morning and finally seen her sagging boobs, her obvious C-section scar that got worse, her fat building around her hips, thighs and upper arms, etc.; 5) She just received a traffic ticket from those guys in the white cars with the double orange stripes while telling them, 'you can't write me a ticket'; and, 6) Her husband forget to pay the Verizon bill.
See you in Vegas buddy!
Quote: Baccaratfrom79She just returned late last night from a weekend in Atlantic City where she drank her way through gambling to forget her miserable Long Island housewife life married to probably some author who get survive off his royalties
This seems almost too specific...
Quote: WizardI think most feminists would say that you would have been entitled to some kind of proportional response in this situation, whether the other party was male or female.
However, I'm with you that a gentleman never insults a lady, no matter how deserving of it.
A feminist might, but society wouldn't.
Quote: aceofspadesThis seems almost too specific...
Yo, I meant--like an author who writes about the sea and the romance on the beaches under the moon and running away to some island community to get married and all. Not about numbers....................................okay?
Quote: Baccaratfrom79Quote: aceofspadesThis seems almost too specific...
Yo, I meant--like an author who writes about the sea and the romance on the beaches under the moon and running away to some island community to get married and all. Not about numbers....................................okay?
Ahhhhhhhh the white picket fence
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: Baccaratfrom79Quote: aceofspadesThis seems almost too specific...
Yo, I meant--like an author who writes about the sea and the romance on the beaches under the moon and running away to some island community to get married and all. Not about numbers....................................okay?
Ahhhhhhhh the white picket fence
Now you got it, like around where Billy Joel lives near Kings Park, not the tables....................
She knows that if you punch her as she deserves all of the men there would attack you without question.
If it was a male I have no doubt a fight whether verbally or physical would ensue. But since it was a female you did not know how to respond.
Females want equal rights with special protection. Females want to be treated equally but with lower standards (and if you question their standards you are a sexist, if you don't treat them equally you are a sexist).
I have no problem with equality, but it needs to be true equality. If I am at a job where I have to have short hair, then so should females. If I am at a job where I have to maintain strength and physical standards then females need to meet the exact same standards. If not, then just give up with the equality jargon, because it is just empty rhetoric.
Also, when it comes to the "rape" issue. I can't count the number of times I have heard that "the victims word needs to be taken verbatim to encourage victims to come out". Because feminists think that female rape is the only crime that deserves an automatic conviction without evidence or a trial. The point is a females word is always right. If you say otherwise you are sexist under this fascist ideology masquerading as equality.
Evenbob will know EXACTLY how to handle this situation. He's a friggin genius with this stuff!
Evenbob where for out thou?
We need your guidance!
Quote: GandlerThis is very common. Unfortunately a female can survive by becoming a professional victim (very profitably too).
She knows that if you punch her as she deserves all of the men there would attack you without question.
If it was a male I have no doubt a fight whether verbally or physical would ensue. But since it was a female you did not know how to respond.
Females want equal rights with special protection. Females want to be treated equally but with lower standards (and if you question their standards you are a sexist, if you don't treat them equally you are a sexist).
I have no problem with equality, but it needs to be true equality. If I am at a job where I have to have short hair, then so should females. If I am at a job where I have to maintain strength and physical standards then females need to meet the exact same standards. If not, then just give up with the equality jargon, because it is just empty rhetoric.
Also, when it comes to the "rape" issue. I can't count the number of times I have heard that "the victims word needs to be taken verbatim to encourage victims to come out". Because feminists think that female rape is the only crime that deserves an automatic conviction without evidence or a trial. The point is a females word is always right. If you say otherwise you are sexist under this fascist ideology masquerading as equality.
Amen! Society will never be able to treat everyone as equal. Should a person with mental retardation be treated the same for criminal acts than a person of normal intelligence? Should a paraplegic be made to take the stairs like everyone else (that would be equal treatment)? So, all of this talk about gender equality is B.S. - the sexes are not equal. Who do you want trying to carry you out of a burning building - a 200 pound fireman or a 120 pound firewoman? Men and women are different, once people begin to accept that and embrace those differences, society can move past all of this B.S.
lot waiting for a guy to back out. I had my
blinker on, even. Up pulls a middle aged woman
from the other direction and sits there with her
blinker on. WTF, am I invisible? I beep my horn
and yell out the window HEY! She completely
ignores me, won't even look at me.
Luckily the guy backs out in my direction so her
car is blocked and I stick the front end on my
car in the spot. When the guy has totally gone
I'm only a few feet away from her and I yelled
HA HA like that bully on the Simpsons does.
She never looked at me and drove off.
Definitely entitlement. They think the guy will do
nothing if they get away with it. I have story
after story like this one, this is just the latest.
Quote: aceofspades...Men and women are different, once people begin to accept that and embrace those differences, society can move past all of this B.S.
We'll be long gone before you see that day. As I mentioned in your other thread, I too feel that unfortunately 'most' women appear to want all of the good and none of the bad that comes with equality and traditional values/roles. Do note I said 'most' as I have met some women whom did not fit this mold, and they are awesome people for it. However, the good majority want.... The man to pay for every date, open all their doors, treat them like princesses, etc... you know, the traditional male role. Yet when it comes to the traditional female role of cooking, cleaning, raising children, etc, if you even begin to assume a woman would fit these roles (especially after she's clearly shown you she assumes you'll fit the males) then you're a sexist pig apparently. I'm fine either way. You want to be equals, awesome. I personally think that makes the strongest relationships. I've dated women that wanted the more traditional roles though, and that's fine too... but then they never hold up their end of the traditional roles, cuz "equality."
Quote: aceofspadesI have learned throughout my years on the planet Earth, and, most recently, about an hour ago, that, for all of the feminists that continually shout that men and women are equal and must be treated the same, there is no way they would actually want this — why, well, here is what just happened to me:
I was pulling into a gas station and was turning to get next to a pump—as I was pulling up to the pump, a woman (about 35 years old from the looks of it), sped in from the opposite direction, slamming on her brakes before almost hitting the front of my SUV.
I looked at her and raised my shoulders and said "What are you doing?"
She flips me the bird
Gets out of her car and, as she walks past my passenger side window, looks at me and says "Ya snooze ya lose"
WTF!!!
If this was a man, there would have been words and likely physical altercation…
However, I hypothesize the following:
1—a man would not do this, knowing that doing something like this could lead to a fight;
2—a woman does this because, despite being "equal", knows that 99.9% of males in society will do nothing in response
As such, she can cut off someone in line for gas, flip them off and then continue to be the aggressor by mouthing off to the male as she passes his window.
This is why chivalry is dead and men and women will never be "equal" — women will never be accountable to men in these types of situations because society condones said behavior and prohibits men from acting like they would if another man did this to them.
I am not advocating for violence at all but, you cannot tell me that this whole scenario would have been different if it was a male that did this to me.
This is why I feel women push a lot more buttons on average then men do to men.
now I personally know three relationships of
people in their late 20's early 30's where the
wife is the breadwinner and the guy has no
job at all. One couple has a kid, the other
two have none.
All of these guys have one thing in common,
the wife is the total boss of everything. She
says jump and the guys ask how high. They make
me sick. The women chose these men in the
courtship phase, they knew they were spineless
from the gitgo.
It's a different relationship from when the woman
doesn't work. They are still vocal, they have
opinions and express them. These men have
no opinions on anything, they never go against
what the woman wants. It's like they're eunuchs.
Is this the future, men with no balls being supported
by domineering women?
You're right, you can't headbutt her in the face. Even if she were a man, you can't headbutt her in the face. So let's not even worry about that scenario.
Tit for tat, correct? She delayed you. You delay her. Allow her the pump. Allow her to begin dispensing petrol. Then just poke the flap where the nozzle rests when you replace it into the pump. This causes the pump to shut off and requires it to be reset, which not only causes a delay until the attendant pushes the button, but she likely used a card that will have to be retrieved, swiped, and authorized before she can resume.
Smile the whole time you do it and remain Zen calm.
Have the phone ready to report the resulting assault (legal assault, not the colloquial definition).
????
Profit.
You have committed no crime. She almost certainly will. And then you win =)
"Fine, then. Let the ladies breathe. Do not, under any circumstances, be nice to them. Never compliment their looks, because everyone knows that women are not fundamentally vain creatures who if given a choice would rather you find them incurably ugly. Do not buy them gifts, because by doing so you are mocking their subordinate role in the economic food chain. Do not shovel the snow from their walkways nor rake the leaves from their yards, because you are implying that they’re too weak to do it themselves. And above all, if they want you to move the TV to another room, turn them down, because gender roles are socially constructed and there’s no natural reason she shouldn’t be able to lift a 140-pound television set over her head as easily as you can.
Basically, if you want to prove you’re not a sexist, you should avoid being nice to women as often as possible. Warmth and fuzziness begone!"
It's a great read but very politically incorrect, may be wise to read at home instead of work.
http://takimag.com/article/the_sin_of_chivalry_jim_goad/print#ixzz3WeSkfFZC
Quote: aceofspadesI have learned throughout my years on the planet Earth, and, most recently, about an hour ago, that, for all of the feminists that continually shout that men and women are equal and must be treated the same, there is no way they would actually want this — why, well, here is what just happened to me:
I was pulling into a gas station and was turning to get next to a pump—as I was pulling up to the pump, a woman (about 35 years old from the looks of it), sped in from the opposite direction, slamming on her brakes before almost hitting the front of my SUV.
I looked at her and raised my shoulders and said "What are you doing?"
She flips me the bird
Gets out of her car and, as she walks past my passenger side window, looks at me and says "Ya snooze ya lose"
WTF!!!
If this was a man, there would have been words and likely physical altercation…
However, I hypothesize the following:
1—a man would not do this, knowing that doing something like this could lead to a fight;
2—a woman does this because, despite being "equal", knows that 99.9% of males in society will do nothing in response
As such, she can cut off someone in line for gas, flip them off and then continue to be the aggressor by mouthing off to the male as she passes his window.
This is why chivalry is dead and men and women will never be "equal" — women will never be accountable to men in these types of situations because society condones said behavior and prohibits men from acting like they would if another man did this to them.
I am not advocating for violence at all but, you cannot tell me that this whole scenario would have been different if it was a male that did this to me.
Could she have just been in a hurry?
Unfortunately, you may never know.
Never judge someone without knowing all the facts.
Tomorrow is a new day.
Shake it off and move on.
;-)
Quote: FaceThis is too easy.
You're right, you can't headbutt her in the face. Even if she were a man, you can't headbutt her in the face. So let's not even worry about that scenario.
Tit for tat, correct? She delayed you. You delay her. Allow her the pump. Allow her to begin dispensing petrol. Then just poke the flap where the nozzle rests when you replace it into the pump. This causes the pump to shut off and requires it to be reset, which not only causes a delay until the attendant pushes the button, but she likely used a card that will have to be retrieved, swiped, and authorized before she can resume.
Smile the whole time you do it and remain Zen calm.
Have the phone ready to report the resulting assault (legal assault, not the colloquial definition).
????
Profit.
You have committed no crime. She almost certainly will. And then you win =)
The business owner can certainly call the police for your interference with his business. At that point in time, you are interfering with the sale of gasoline to a paying customer.
Quote: RomesAs far as the main story goes, I think you and the Wiz were agreeing to an extent. 'Something' should have been done in equal rebuttal, so perhaps some words exchanged, but I do also agree with you Ace that the situation would be handled MUCH differently had she been another man. Not even necessarily from your end, but I think you touched on a key point. Men approach that situation differently FROM HER SIDE, because they know they could possibly have to deal with physical violence, where as you stated women don't have to think about that... So it never even crossed her mind that it was a dick move with consequences because "What consequences? I'm a woman, he can't hit me... I can do what I want."
Exactly - most men would not have attempted what she did in the first place
Quote: rxwineBeing an a**hole to someone doesn't make you a feminist. Just makes you an a**hole.
I never said it made her a feminist
Quote: SkittleCar1Could she have just been in a hurry?
Unfortunately, you may never know.
Never judge someone without knowing all the facts.
Tomorrow is a new day.
Shake it off and move on.
;-)
Yeah she was in such a hurry that she went inside to pay cash rather than use credit at the pump? She was in such a hurry that she had time to flip me off? She was in such a hurry as to mouth off to me while walking past my car? If she was truly in a hurry and oblivious, she would not even have noticed what she did, let alone say "Ya snooze Ya lose"
Quote: aceofspadesI never said it made her a feminist
Okay, check, must of started reading the Wizards post along with yours.
Quote: WizardHowever, I'm with you that a gentleman never insults a lady, no matter how deserving of it.
Speaking of the Wizard's post. I was never taught this. Just not to hit a woman.
Besides once you insult her, it is questionable if she was acting like a lady. I mean, if you're in the right. Or at least think you are.
Quote: aceofspadesYeah she was in such a hurry that she went inside to pay cash rather than use credit at the pump? She was in such a hurry that she had time to flip me off? She was in such a hurry as to mouth off to me while walking past my car? If she was truly in a hurry and oblivious, she would not even have noticed what she did, let alone say "Ya snooze Ya lose"
Read it again....look carefully. ;-)
How do you understand women so well?
Well, I envision a man, and take away any sense of reason or accountability
Quote: Gabes22Sounds like someone needs to watch "As Good As It Gets"
How do you understand women so well?
Well, I envision a man, and take away any sense of reason or accountability
Great quote!
Quote: aceofspadesThe business owner can certainly call the police for your interference with his business. At that point in time, you are interfering with the sale of gasoline to a paying customer.
Well, s#$%. You wanna get all technical, then she's guilty of public endangerment, what with flying into a spot, slamming the brakes, and almost striking your vehicle.
If you just want to cry about it, then we're here to listen. You want to do something about it, mine is certainly the safest idea to cause the maximum frustration. Guaranteed she loses her mind, and ain't no way you're getting charged with anything.
Quote: FaceWell, s#$%. You wanna get all technical, then she's guilty of public endangerment, what with flying into a spot, slamming the brakes, and almost striking your vehicle.
If you just want to cry about it, then we're here to listen. You want to do something about it, mine is certainly the safest idea to cause the maximum frustration. Guaranteed she loses her mind, and ain't no way you're getting charged with anything.
I am not trying to "cry" about it at all - merely venting about a situation I can do nothing about because she is a woman
Quote: EvenBobThere is something changing in society. Right
now I personally know three relationships of
people in their late 20's early 30's where the
wife is the breadwinner and the guy has no
job at all. One couple has a kid, the other
two have none.
All of these guys have one thing in common,
the wife is the total boss of everything. She
says jump and the guys ask how high. They make
me sick. The women chose these men in the
courtship phase, they knew they were spineless
from the gitgo.
It's a different relationship from when the woman
doesn't work. They are still vocal, they have
opinions and express them. These men have
no opinions on anything, they never go against
what the woman wants. It's like they're eunuchs.
Is this the future, men with no balls being supported
by domineering women?
Too many guys do not know how to "be men." Are the guys you describe just on a job layoff? While that can happen to anyone, my guess is that they are not and it is a longer term thing. A further guess is that they are not really good handymen or anything else. The one with the kid I guess I get it, I mean I really don't get the "Mr Mom" thing but I get it. The ones without kids need a good smacking and told to go and earn. Earn somehow, some way. Act like a freaking man.
And you peeps keep wondering why I say there is essentially no hope for our society and best to let it all collapse so we can sooner get to rebuilding?
Quote: AZDuffmanToo many guys do not know how to "be men." Are the guys you describe just on a job layoff?
No, it's permanent. The one with a kid
flunked the bar exam so badly he
decided to be a house dad as his
profession. Another one is an 'artist'
who was fired from every job he had
because he can't take orders from
the boss. The third one has been a
part time student for 10 years, no
degree, keeps changing his major.
What they have in common is extreme
laziness and sense of entitlement.
Quote: EvenBobNo, it's permanent. The one with a kid
flunked the bar exam so badly he
decided to be a house dad as his
profession. Another one is an 'artist'
who was fired from every job he had
because he can't take orders from
the boss. The third one has been a
part time student for 10 years, no
degree, keeps changing his major.
What they have in common is extreme
laziness and sense of entitlement.
So after what, 7 or so years of post-secondary education he flunks and doesn't try anything else? Good grief. Tell him to learn to work the courthouse, I am always around people killing time to take the bar or who took it but can't get a good position at a firm. Of course if the kid does pass and get a job at a firm he will find law is a lead-driven, hours-based white-collar sweatshop in many if not most cases. I just listened to a few coworkers at lunch talking of the woes of law. Seems sexy when you see them at McKenze-Brackman, in the real world not so much. Then some get to manage people like me.
Now that you mention it, the third one sounds like someone I know. Near 30, no degree and no good job. He works but little career plan and still thinks he needs a degree. She wants kids I am told but no effing way as it stands now.
To your earlier pose and them being whipped. Women know that it is normal for a woman to work part-time or not at all when married. Men know that real men look down on them for this. So women have femmine wiles and leverage. Men who have a wife supporting them are screwed. They are more screwed than a woman because a woman in a bad situation can usually find some sort of woman's shelter. A man who gets booted with no money, well the "men's shelter" is skid row.
Quote: AZDuffman
Now that you mention it, the third one sounds like someone I know. Near 30, no degree and no good job. He works but little career plan and still thinks he needs a degree. She wants kids I am told but no effing way as it stands now.
That doesn't stop women when they want a kid - they know how to work both men and the system to get what they want, no matter what, especially for their child
Was I out of line in saying that, probably. Has anyone ever stood up to her, probably not. I just don't let people walk all over me. And hopefully she realizes not everyone will put up with her childish ness.
Quote: aceofspadesI am not trying to "cry" about it at all - merely venting about a situation I can do nothing about because she is a woman
Don't get bent, just ribbing you.
Quote: beerseason
Was I out of line in saying that, probably.
You reap what you sow. Heat, kitchen, etc. I wish I could still do things like this sometimes
Quote: RSOne simple reason why we shouldn't all be treated equally -- because we aren't all equal.
+1000. Treating everyone equally disallows one to account for individuality
Quote: Gabes22+1000. Treating everyone equally disallows one to account for individuality
Too many people confuse "equal" with "identical." I have to say a person is not really mature until they learn this in treating people.
Quote: AZDuffmanToo many people confuse "equal" with "identical." I have to say a person is not really mature until they learn this in treating people.
So you must be a fan of Plessy v. Ferguson
Quote:This is why chivalry is dead and men and women will never be "equal" — women will never be accountable to men in these types of situations because society condones said behavior and prohibits men from acting like they would if another man did this to them.
Really?
Men flip me off, why shouldn't women have the same right?
I'd rather enjoy it.
Rather than defer to "the fairer sex," I'd immediately respond the same way to either of them: a return single finger salute coupled with a pronounced shake of my head and a long blast of the horn.
Law of the jungle.
Quote: MrVReally?
Men flip me off, why shouldn't women have the same right?
I'd rather enjoy it.
Rather than defer to "the fairer sex," I'd immediately respond the same way to either of them: a return single finger salute coupled with a pronounced shake of my head and a long blast of the horn.
Law of the jungle.
You don't see a difference…? Can you truly confront the woman without incurring the wrath of every white knight at the gas station? No, you can honk your horn, shake your head and move on. Whereas, if it were a man, words and more would likely be exchanged (that is, if a man actually did what she did).
Quote: aceofspadesYou don't see a difference…?
Not really.
Stimulus - Response.
Quote: RSA woman can do things without threat of retaliation.
Exactly - exactly
Quote: RSA woman can do things without threat of retaliation.
Hardly.
Most victims of domestic violence are women who are assaulted by men
Quote: MrVHardly.
Most victims of domestic violence are women who are assaulted by men
Actually, you are incorrect and merely spewing forth media-driven propaganda - if you look at the studies, it is about 60% women and 40% men for reported domestic violence cases — that being said, I would venture to guess it is more of a 50/50 as men tend to not report violence committed against them by women.
If a man slaps a woman, even after being hit or slapped by her first cops would be called.
In movies it's even used as comedy in movies.
Quote: AxelWolfIn public a girl can slap a guy across the face and no one blinks a eye. People might whisper and wonder what he did(probably looked at some hot chicks ).
If a man slaps a woman, even after being hit or slapped by her first cops would be called.
In movies it's even used as comedy in movies.
There is a new commercial for a movie with Will Ferell and Kevin Hart
Kevin hart is pretending to be a tough guy to make money teaching Will Ferrell how to prepare for going into prison
There is a scene in the commercial where Kevin Hart's wife turns away from a conversation and he says "Don't turn your back on me woman" — to which the wife turns around and smacks him in the face then pushes him
I assume this is to be seen as comedic (However, Kevin Hart is a small man and actually smaller than his wife in the movie)
See 1:15 - 1:21
