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February 10th, 2017 at 8:50:11 PM permalink
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Today is day 32 of no pop. I really want one and have almost fallen off the wagon a few times. I like to be able to say that I have a streak of no pop. Without that streak my motivation may be less.

I have also started eating a healthy breakfast and it really has made a big difference in the rest of the day. My breakfast has been 1/2 cup if rasberries, 1 or 2 hard boiled eggs and a cup of black coffee. Doesn't sound like a lot of food but it actually keeps me full.


Down 16.8 pounds in the last 30 days.



GWAE - If you're "dying" for pop, maybe buy a bottle of plain soda, Tonic Water, etc. Grab a fresh lemon, lime, or orange, and squeeze it into your carbonated water. Sugar? Try Stevia or a squirt of agave syrup - avoid the aspartame-loaded sugar substitutes (those pink, blue, or yellow packets).

For something long-lasting, consider this health link for a macrobiotic lifestyle:

http://www.drshintani.com/

Shortly after I did an early retirement in Jun 2012, I abused the weighing scales at over 205 lbs. I attended the "Disease Reversal in 10 Days" workshop in Sep 2012, and have kept 45-55 lb off consistently the past 4 years and counting. The daily "penalties" I pay are 60 min exercise (I love swimming, and recently got into "dry-land" swimming exercises in the gym), preparing your own meals (I now eat about 85% raw foods), and always packing snacks (apple slices, celery sticks with PNB, dried figs, etc.)

Admittedly, this is not a program for everyone, but it's also not a "one time deal". It's a total changing of lifestyle, which in my case, worked for me. I'm estimating 85-90% attendees fall off the wagon after a year. In my class of 34, only 2 that I know of continue to benefit from the workshop.

FWIW, I have no financial interests in Dr Shintani's program, nor do I earn any credits or coupons for talking about what he does.

If this workshop interests you, you can reply here or PM me to find out more, or just visit the website. Whatever works for you.

The best benefit? See my "byline": "Eat real food . . . and you won't need medicine (or a lot less!) "

Hope you have a pleasant health journey!

LW
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February 10th, 2017 at 10:39:28 PM permalink
Some additional points to consider...
While wholeheartedly agreeing with avoid aspartame, I would not recommend Stevia or Stevia extract or agave syrup at all.
Tonic water has quinine. Better to stick to simple seltzer water flavored with a bit of lemon or lime.

Dry land swimming? Water aerobics is good also.

Eat real food? HOW? When junk food is so aluring and so cheap?
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February 10th, 2017 at 10:41:01 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Today is day 32 of no pop. I really want one and have almost fallen off the wagon a few times. I like to be able to say that I have a streak of no pop. Without that streak my motivation may be less.

I have also started eating a healthy breakfast and it really has made a big difference in the rest of the day. My breakfast has been 1/2 cup if rasberries, 1 or 2 hard boiled eggs and a cup of black coffee. Doesn't sound like a lot of food but it actually keeps me full.

Down 16.8 pounds in the last 30 days.



I'm working out and all of that, too, if you want to make things interesting. We could weigh in and out on the same scale so we know there are no shenanigans.

PM me your height and what you think the weight is and I will respond in kind. Might be no action if I think you have more to lose than I do, but if not, we'll see or maybe we can get some Odds or something.
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February 11th, 2017 at 5:22:57 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Tonic water has quinine.

Not to mention 90% of the sugar (and calories) of a regular soft drink!

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Better to stick to simple seltzer water flavored with a bit of lemon or lime.

Yes! I have a SodaStream at home and do this frequently. GWAE, if you want the 'feel' of drinking soda, but without the calories or chemicals, you might want to look into it.

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Eat real food? HOW? When junk food is so aluring and so cheap?

Exactly! What's wrong with this world when it costs more to eat less?!
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February 11th, 2017 at 7:46:29 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Not to mention 90% of the sugar (and calories) of a regular soft drink!

Yes! I have a SodaStream at home and do this frequently. GWAE, if you want the 'feel' of drinking soda, but without the calories or chemicals, you might want to look into it.

Exactly! What's wrong with this world when it costs more to eat less?!



It's been reported that the reason healthy food costs more than junk food is simply because healthy food is more expensive than junk food. That farm raised, grass fed, USDA Prime steak is going to cost you way more than the cheap grade D hamburger you get at McDonald's. ;)
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February 11th, 2017 at 7:53:07 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I'm working out and all of that, too, if you want to make things interesting. We could weigh in and out on the same scale so we know there are no shenanigans.

PM me your height and what you think the weight is and I will respond in kind. Might be no action if I think you have more to lose than I do, but if not, we'll see or maybe we can get some Odds or something.



Everyone missed a goldmine when I offered a bet like HB and got no action. I would have missed my goal by a ton. However I am motivated to no end now, however a bet at this time is probably not a good idea. I have a goal to be at 269 by April 7th (day I leave for vegas) which is only 17 more pounds in 6 weeks. While there I fully plan on drinking my weight in alcohol and pop. If I gain 10 pounds I do not care. When we get home on easter we are going to restart the diet and get back on it with a goal to be at 239 on July 7th when we go to AC. So after all that rambling a bet would be tough with these weird time lines.
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February 11th, 2017 at 7:55:53 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Some additional points to consider...
While wholeheartedly agreeing with avoid aspartame, I would not recommend Stevia or Stevia extract or agave syrup at all.
Tonic water has quinine. Better to stick to simple seltzer water flavored with a bit of lemon or lime.

Dry land swimming? Water aerobics is good also.

Eat real food? HOW? When junk food is so aluring and so cheap?



I have been drinking 1 glass of Kool aid from the calorie free MIO like spray stuff and about 120oz of water a day. The Kool aid is probably bad for me but the sweetness has killed my craving for pop.

I think the main reason that I want pop right now is because I can't have it. I don't really crave it at all but me wants what me can't have.
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February 11th, 2017 at 8:01:43 AM permalink
GWAE.

Have you ever tried Syfo sparkling water? I recently had some:it's surprisingly good. Comes in 1 liter bottles in about 8 flavors. Zero calories, no artificial sweeteners.
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February 11th, 2017 at 9:08:14 AM permalink
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GWAE.

Have you ever tried Syfo sparkling water? I recently had some:it's surprisingly good. Comes in 1 liter bottles in about 8 flavors. Zero calories, no artificial sweeteners.



Never heard of it. I will look into it.
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February 11th, 2017 at 9:08:24 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Everyone missed a goldmine when I offered a bet like HB and got no action. I would have missed my goal by a ton. However I am motivated to no end now, however a bet at this time is probably not a good idea. I have a goal to be at 269 by April 7th (day I leave for vegas) which is only 17 more pounds in 6 weeks. While there I fully plan on drinking my weight in alcohol and pop. If I gain 10 pounds I do not care. When we get home on easter we are going to restart the diet and get back on it with a goal to be at 239 on July 7th when we go to AC. So after all that rambling a bet would be tough with these weird time lines.



It'd be too tough to configure odds, anyway. As I recall, I am an inch or two taller than you and I way slightly less. If you want to do a percentage of body weight wager when you get back, let me know, I'm thinking we'd go over the course of six months or a year. I think we might be close enough that percentage of body weight would be fair.

EDIT: Never mind, just reread that. I'm going to weigh about twenty fewer pounds than I do now by April 7th, so that won't work.
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February 11th, 2017 at 11:41:23 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Everyone missed a goldmine when I offered a bet like HB and got no action. I would have missed my goal by a ton. However I am motivated to no end now, however a bet at this time is probably not a good idea. I have a goal to be at 269 by April 7th (day I leave for vegas) which is only 17 more pounds in 6 weeks. While there I fully plan on drinking my weight in alcohol and pop. If I gain 10 pounds I do not care. When we get home on easter we are going to restart the diet and get back on it with a goal to be at 239 on July 7th when we go to AC. So after all that rambling a bet would be tough with these weird time lines.



You might have a better trip if you don't overdo it by so much. After the results of the first 24 hours, you may feel more like crashing in your hotel bed for 2 days than doing anything.
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February 11th, 2017 at 11:50:57 AM permalink
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You might have a better trip if you don't overdo it by so much. After the results of the first 24 hours, you may feel more like crashing in your hotel bed for 2 days than doing anything.




You may be right. Right now my motivation is just make it till then and then I can cheat. However when I get there I may not want to. That happened 2 weeks ago, we went to a birthday party and I had planned on having a drink. That was the first 2 week motivation. When we got there I decided to not have a drink.
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February 11th, 2017 at 1:58:48 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Some additional points to consider...
While wholeheartedly agreeing with avoid aspartame, I would not recommend Stevia or Stevia extract or agave syrup at all.
Tonic water has quinine. Better to stick to simple seltzer water flavored with a bit of lemon or lime.

Dry land swimming? Water aerobics is good also.

Eat real food? HOW? When junk food is so aluring and so cheap?



FleaStiff & GWAE (FS: Thanks for correction on Tonic water - I actually use plain carbonated water. One day they ran out of plain soda so I grabbed the next choice on the shelf! Good to know about quinine content!).

Love water aerobics - problem is with temperatures in mid-70s, the water is just barely tolerable, but certainly not enjoyable. . . even with a wetsuit.

Hence, my swim coach isolated the muscles used in free style swimming, and selected a handful of machines that work the same muscles. . . On the occasional day when the sun has been stronger, I am starting to notice a stronger stroke, but nothing breaking records . . . yet . . . it's the idea that certainly drives me!

I eat "real" food that is best described with some pictures, and for the record, our grocery bill is about 40-50% lower now (just me & the wife).

I sometimes eat the fruit with my breakfast cereal - the one below is quinoa, toasted almonds, strawberries, unsweetened almond milk, and the sweetness from one date (i.e., no sugar or sweetener added):



I grew up on sandwiches, so this was an easy one to make with sprouted grain bread, tomatoes, avocados, and sprouts



But here's the bottom line: My choice of leading a macrobiotic lifestyle has withstood the test of time - 4 years and counting. While I still enjoy eating meat, I no longer carry the same craving. A taste of 2 or 3 slices, and I'm good to go. The same "taste" craving goes for pies, ice cream, and other rich foods I used to "inhale". Nowadays, just a taste and the craving dies. Here's a breakdown of my diet:



I've also enjoyed multiple side benefits, including cutting down on medications (from 16 to 6), doctor visits, costs for parking, mileage, W&T on car, better sleep . . . The only expense I DON'T regret was buying new clothes: from size 44+ (i.e., with stretch-waist) to 34, from size XXL to L or M (depending on brand). The increase in self-esteem, however, is priceless. I've bumped into old friends who had to look at me twice to believe it was me! The funniest experience to the family was I had to change my wedding ring size from 11 down to an 8 because my ring literally fell off my finger twice in the swimming pool! <Go Figure!>
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February 12th, 2017 at 12:50:12 PM permalink
Or, Ron Swanson's version
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February 12th, 2017 at 1:42:44 PM permalink
Quote: Calder

Or, Ron Swanson's version



Calder - good one, a total package including the emotions and past times! Your link worked, so I Googled and found the website.

Thanks!

LW
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February 12th, 2017 at 2:56:13 PM permalink
A refreshing, no-cal / lo-cal beverage:

In a tall glass, with ice, add club soda and then a little bit of liquid concentrated lime, to taste.

Ahhhhh!
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February 12th, 2017 at 6:04:08 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

A refreshing, no-cal / lo-cal beverage:

In a tall glass, with ice, add club soda and then a little bit of liquid concentrated lime, to taste.

Ahhhhh!



I applaud you for your suggestion, Mr V!

With my macrobiotic lifestyle, I choose to use fresh fruits/vegetables as often as possible. At home, we are blessed with a Myers Lemon tree that bears fruit year round. In "high season" (July-Apr), we try to harvest and make trays of fresh lemon cubes! The average size of our lemons is like a pregnant tennis ball.


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February 12th, 2017 at 6:53:51 PM permalink
Haha Adele f'ed up the song. That is why I watch these things and why I hate voice overs. Live singing is the way to go.
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February 12th, 2017 at 7:13:32 PM permalink
You go Metallica and Gaga. I would like to watch a today's version of grammys from 1992. Metallica and nirvana with todays technology.
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February 12th, 2017 at 8:46:56 PM permalink
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You may be right. Right now my motivation is just make it till then and then I can cheat. However when I get there I may not want to. That happened 2 weeks ago, we went to a birthday party and I had planned on having a drink. That was the first 2 week motivation. When we got there I decided to not have a drink.




GWAE - How goes your motivation journey? Here are some thoughts about the motivation journey I began in 2012.

- Before going out to an event where there's FOOD, I make sure I have a snack just before leaving the house (nuts, a fruit, popcorn). I also pack a small ziplock bag of snacks for the drive back.
- The "craving" sensation can be killed by not resisting it, but instead going full steam ahead, but just taking one or two bites or sips. This does not work for everyone, but when it does, voila! Magic! Craving gone!
- When I started my macrobiotic journey, I could not imagine NOT eating beef or poultry. Then I discovered the delicious varieties of tofu - the picture below is Agedashi Tofu - or just crispy fried cubes of tofu (very creamy inside) in a light rice wine sauce, topped with finely shredded green onions and crispy nori (seaweed). The grated white mound in the middle is white radish. I can devour a dozen of these cubes with as little as a cup of brown rice, and I'm good to go for the night! Admittedly, this is an Asian dish - I recommend trying it with an Asian friend or someone who knows Asian foods, so that you can get a substitute dish that satisfies your palate. If you were wondering, I do eat other "common" foods.

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February 13th, 2017 at 12:33:57 AM permalink
After this much discussion, I think the google snooping robot now thinks WOV forum is some healthy food / macrobiotic promoting website.

Not even sure what macrobiotic means. Idk if I want to know. Other than what I'd have to think, since macro means "big picture" or something and bio means "life", I'm thinking it means the big picture of life.....but isn't that basically philosophy or one of the "hippier" fields of studies?
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February 13th, 2017 at 2:22:34 AM permalink
I hate fb. I have an account with a fake name that I've hardly used for much of anything but in the People I Might Know up pops remarkably People that I do know or even people that I just don't want to know I have an fb account. How the hell does that work? So my wife somehow gets these same people you may know on her account which really shouldn't be tied to my account at all except for that she has used my phone to check her account.

Pretty much I just don't want hosts or casino people in general to even have a glimpse of my life. I'm glad she has hers set to friends only to see her page.

On a side note: if I wanted to I could totally f*** with the former owner of my phone number. She had a local one. People all the time trying to reach her from my number even about 3 years after I got hers. Some dirty ones too. She pops up on the people I might know so the phone numbers must be used somehow in how they find those people. I'm almost certain fb goes through your contacts on your phone somehow if you've ever logged in.

Additional side note: In an odd circumstance, I once found myself at Sam's Town when the former owner of my phone number was called over the PA or whatever it's called. Thought about meeting her just to tell her 'Hey! Stop doing payday loans!' but decided to continue trying to stay out of her life. Get way too many calls for her about those considering it's been about 3 years or so since I got this strangers former number. Mildly amusing though
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February 13th, 2017 at 4:30:02 AM permalink
I know this 'social media' can be difficult stuff. Recall perhaps the fifteen year old girl who was sent by Target some discount coupons for pre-natal vitamins and other maternity related stuff and then two weeks later she told her parents she was pregnant.

I would from time to time email a former poker player, blogger, Vegas reviewer, dog lover, gambler and heroin addict. I hated it when Google tried to include her 12-step friends in my Google circle. When she received a felony conviction it got even worse. Just because I helped her with transitional housing in Nevada does not mean I want a deluge of ads pushed to me about Nevada real estate rentals and condominium sales. Just because I happened to receive some emails from a Texan who owns and operates two casinos in Mexico does not mean I want all these Spanish language items on facebook and hotmail.

Its particularly difficult for me sometimes since I've done a bit of International and Maritime Search and Rescue work and continue to receive facebook messages from people in foreign languages.

The other day, I happened to look at an Australian local newspaper in relation to the destruction of an outdoor mural that featured Australian-born Rolf Harris of Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport fame. Wouldn't you know that one of the ads pushed to me was related to Dysphagia, a medical condition that an electronic acquaintance in the USA had emailed me about. To this day, I still get Phuket tourism ads relating to an RIP post about a young "yachtie" who died aboard a millionaire's yacht near Phuket.

I imagine my prior emails to a known member of anonymous probably make me of interest to some data mining programs but he was a sailor who did several yacht deliveries (short handed, unfinished boats, inadequate electronics) and I was involved in a volunteer search for a missing yacht. I wonder what my emails about several young men in British Columbia who've gone missing after rock concerts will bring me: so far I keep getting all these ski resort ads even though I do not ski.
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February 13th, 2017 at 7:00:14 AM permalink
I am one of the three (maybe four) people on the planet who do not have a Facebook account or a LinkedIn account, do not send or read tweets, and do not have accounts and/or post anything on either Pininterest or Instagram. This is the only internet forum I have participated in for at least the past five years, probably longer. I do/did have a Youtube account with a few videos uploaded, and I still know the user name and password I used to create it, however it seems that Google now jumps in and won't let me sign into that account unless I store that account I.D. on my computer -- didn't used to work that way and I don't like it, so I don't use Youtube any more.

In spite of this limited presence in cyberspace, I get an annoying number of targeted ads.
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February 13th, 2017 at 1:30:41 PM permalink
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I am one of the three (maybe four) people on the planet who do not have a Facebook account or a LinkedIn account, do not send or read tweets, and do not have accounts and/or post anything on either Pininterest or Instagram. This is the only internet forum I have participated in for at least the past five years, probably longer. I do/did have a Youtube account with a few videos uploaded, and I still know the user name and password I used to create it, however it seems that Google now jumps in and won't let me sign into that account unless I store that account I.D. on my computer -- didn't used to work that way and I don't like it, so I don't use Youtube any more.

In spite of this limited presence in cyberspace, I get an annoying number of targeted ads.



I don't have a faceunion

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February 13th, 2017 at 3:36:04 PM permalink
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GWAE - How goes your motivation journey? Here are some thoughts about the motivation journey I began in 2012.

- Before going out to an event where there's FOOD, I make sure I have a snack just before leaving the house (nuts, a fruit, popcorn). I also pack a small ziplock bag of snacks for the drive back.
- The "craving" sensation can be killed by not resisting it, but instead going full steam ahead, but just taking one or two bites or sips. This does not work for everyone, but when it does, voila! Magic! Craving gone!
- When I started my macrobiotic journey, I could not imagine NOT eating beef or poultry. Then I discovered the delicious varieties of tofu - the picture below is Agedashi Tofu - or just crispy fried cubes of tofu (very creamy inside) in a light rice wine sauce, topped with finely shredded green onions and crispy nori (seaweed). The grated white mound in the middle is white radish. I can devour a dozen of these cubes with as little as a cup of brown rice, and I'm good to go for the night! Admittedly, this is an Asian dish - I recommend trying it with an Asian friend or someone who knows Asian foods, so that you can get a substitute dish that satisfies your palate. If you were wondering, I do eat other "common" foods.



I have no desire to ever eat like that. It is an acquired taste and if I tried to eat it all the time I would probably be ok switching. I just have no desire to ever do that.

34 days and counting with no pop
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February 13th, 2017 at 3:45:33 PM permalink
Ate Bambi the other day. It was so-so. Not even sure what cut of meat it was, but it was some kind of steak or roast. Had had the meat in the freezer over a year, because I really didn't know how to cook it. Pulled it out to thaw to force me to try.

Researched how to cook venison and glad I did. I probably wouldn't have known to trim as much fat and silver skin as I wound up doing. You wont believe how bad the fat smelled. God knows what the deer ate. Marinated the meat in Italian dressing almost a day, then pan fried it with a ton of butter. The meat is very lean, you have to add extra fat to be sure it doesn't become too dry or tough.

The flavor of the deer, not so great. If it was beef, you'd think it was spoiled. Doesn't come close to goose. Goose was really good when I had it years ago. My cousin got it with a bow, marinated in teriyaki, and it was great. Tasted just like beef this way, very much rare and full of flavor.
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February 13th, 2017 at 3:52:50 PM permalink
I was going to say maybe it was spoiled but I just looked aND google tells me that venison keeps 2 years in freezer. I had no idea. I am not a fan of venison except for deer jerky. Add enough salt and flavor to anything and it will be good.
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February 13th, 2017 at 4:01:44 PM permalink
Quote:

have no desire to ever eat like that. It is an acquired taste and if I tried to eat it all the time I would probably be ok switching. I just have no desire to ever do that.

34 days and counting with no pop



No worries, but thanks for sharing your thoughts anyway. I was just reaching out, that's all. Good luck on your 34 days!
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February 13th, 2017 at 4:13:13 PM permalink
Yes, the "M" word has to do with the big[ger] picture of life. Not just eating whole and natural foods (unprocessed). But although every person reacts differently to different dietary approaches, evidence shows that macrobiotic-style diets can help improve heart health, lower inflammation and support a healthy body weight well into old age. FWIW, I'll celebrate my 67th birthday in April in Las Vegas for my VP Tournament, but I feel like a 50-year old (except for my respiratory issues due to MRSA - no, you don't need to know about MRSA). I appreciate your viewpoints, RS!
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February 13th, 2017 at 5:59:37 PM permalink
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Doesn't come close to goose. Goose was really good when I had it years ago.


Goose stuffed with apples, onions, and prunes, and rubbed with sea salt, fresh sage and other herbs .....
If anyone happens to be at the University of Wisconsin at Madison the library's courtyard has several food carts from various vendors. One of the best serves mainly Afghanistan cuisine but at Christmas time served roasted goose. There is a cidery, meadery and single malt lounge a few blocks away featuring chess, go and cribbage.
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February 13th, 2017 at 6:06:24 PM permalink
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I was going to say maybe it was spoiled but I just looked aND google tells me that venison keeps 2 years in freezer. I had no idea. I am not a fan of venison except for deer jerky. Add enough salt and flavor to anything and it will be good.

It was vacuum sealed, wasn't too worried. I was the only one willing to eat it. Everyone else was just afraid because it's deer. I agree, it does not taste so good. In some apocalypse scenario, it'd probably taste great if you're starving. Just about the only scenario where I'd eat venison regularly.
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February 13th, 2017 at 6:14:02 PM permalink
I'm no meat conesseur, sometimes go vegetarian without trying, but everytime I've had venison it has kicked ***, not taste like ***.
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February 13th, 2017 at 8:00:51 PM permalink
In case there are any coin collectors around this forum ....

Most of you probably know that I am one of the casino chip collectors around here and that I started the Casino Chip of the Day discussion thread, which is still going strong. Chips are the primary thing I collect these days but not the only thing.

Back when I was 10 or 11 years old, someone gave me some albums for collecting/displaying Lincoln cents, and I tried to collect each of the different versions that I could find. I still have those albums, but they are a bit worn, and I purchased new ones as replacements plus more to cover the more recent years. Very old cents don't seem to come up in circulation these days, so about all I do is add the newest cents when I find them in my change.

Today, I encountered my first 2017 Lincoln cent -- found it on the floor in a restaurant! When I started to put it into its place in my latest album, I noticed something quite surprising: It has a P mint mark, to show that it was produced in the Philadelphia mint. This was surprising because the Philadelphia mint has never previously used a P to indicate the mint on a one-cent coin -- not since the beginning in 1793. Their cents were always without a mint mark at all.

I quickly did a search and found this article that discusses the release of this unique coin. The article says that it is to commemorate the 225th anniversary of the mint and that it is a one-year thing, returning to no mint mark for the 2018 Lincoln cents.

Just thought someone might be interested. We return you now to your previously scheduled programming ....
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February 14th, 2017 at 12:24:36 AM permalink
What's with all this diet talk horseplay? I thought this thread used to be about serious miscellaneous discussions about the important questions in life, such as

1) qdoba or chipotle?
2) Will you be going to the White House?
3) Would you hire GWAE to build a deck?
4) What is your stance on bathroom use?
5) Education about weather terms like point dew and line frost.
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February 14th, 2017 at 1:56:09 AM permalink
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What's with all this diet talk horseplay? I thought this thread used to be about serious miscellaneous discussions about the important questions in life, such as

1) qdoba or chipotle?
2) Will you be going to the White House?
3) Would you hire GWAE to build a deck?
4) What is your stance on bathroom use?
5) Education about weather terms like point dew and line frost.



Wtf I am insulted. Obviously it is qdoba. How can that even be questioned?
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February 14th, 2017 at 3:16:11 AM permalink
Well, when I moved to Vegas I put on about 30 pounds and would gas taking 4 flights of stairs. I'm working my way into OK shape. Slacked off lately due to too much woik.

I put some research into it, and some experience.

Diet: Man, soda is murder. If you decide to jump off the wagon in Vegas, I bet it will taste like drinking a melted candy bar, which it basically is. Still good, but my guess is you'll not want nearly as much.

24 hour fasts are good. Easy once you are used to them. Eat lunch, skip dinner, go to bed hungry. Ain't a big deal cuz you're just gonna sleep. You might not be that hungry in the mornings, like me. If you get hungry, have a black coffee. Eat lunch. Try not to binge, but eat a pretty normal meal.

A good way to erase a day of sin.

When I meditate, dieting is really easy. It conditions you to think about yourself more objectively. "Do I want to eat food that is bad for me, and doesn't even taste all that good for a quick chemical rush? Duh, no."

Once you're used to eating well, you'll kind of crave decent foods and really feel it when you eat bad ones. I crammed down a bunch of pizza, chips and cupcakes during the superbowl, and I had to have some carrots and celery. I really, genuinely, wanted it more than more junk food.

My favorite "dessert" right now: Real peanut butter. This is sold by our local Kroger skin. Nothing but ground up peanuts. I add some salt. Slice up an apple. Dip apple slices in PB. Yum.

Another good nut/fruit combo is pistachios and oranges.

Another good "desert" is dates, maybe with some cinnamon.

Working out:

Park far away. Always take the stairs. Go out of your way to walk more and take more stairs. I like this because, in many cases it actually saves you time and effort. (why do people spend 10 minutes looking for a spot that will save 30 seconds of walking?)

Cardio: Burst training seems to be the most efficient and effective. I really hate cardio and slack off on this. But, it's better than prolonged running or biking or whathave you. Over quickly.

Some say it has a bunch of other positive side effects, while other cardio can have negative effects (which is why Marathon runners look like crap).

There are a million youtube videos on it, but here is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzJRipnfitg

Weights: I hate lifting weights much less than doing cardio. No desire to be Mr. Universe, but it's nice to not be a total blob too. I have about 5 exorcises I cycle through, trying to do each at least once a week. Under an hour total per week. Just having muscle also burns calories.

Essentials: do it till your muscles fail. Then make sure to rest those muscles for a couple days, because that's when they are growing.

Most effective, but also most painful: The super slow method.

Again, millions of videos, but here is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIpjB31y2Ow&t=1044s


Quote: mcallister3200

What's with all this diet talk horseplay? I thought this thread used to be about serious miscellaneous discussions about the important questions in life, such as

1) qdoba or chipotle?
2) Will you be going to the White House?
3) Would you hire GWAE to build a deck?
4) What is your stance on bathroom use?
5) Education about weather terms like point dew and line frost.



1) Neither. I'm not a damn savage. Any random Mexican joint run by real Mexicans slays both.
2) Not that I'm aware of. Is Trump hosting the next Wov meetup?
3) Yes. Will he work for food?
4) I'm for it
5) Minimal.
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February 14th, 2017 at 5:27:07 AM permalink
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February 14th, 2017 at 6:10:39 AM permalink
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Happy Valentines Day to you sweethearts!

Love you all, well mostly ;-)



welcome back, hope all has been well.
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February 14th, 2017 at 6:17:50 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Well, when I moved to Vegas I put on about 30 pounds and would gas taking 4 flights of stairs. I'm working my way into OK shape. Slacked off lately due to too much woik.

I put some research into it, and some experience.

Diet: Man, soda is murder. If you decide to jump off the wagon in Vegas, I bet it will taste like drinking a melted candy bar, which it basically is. Still good, but my guess is you'll not want nearly as much.

24 hour fasts are good. Easy once you are used to them. Eat lunch, skip dinner, go to bed hungry. Ain't a big deal cuz you're just gonna sleep. You might not be that hungry in the mornings, like me. If you get hungry, have a black coffee. Eat lunch. Try not to binge, but eat a pretty normal meal.

A good way to erase a day of sin.

When I meditate, dieting is really easy. It conditions you to think about yourself more objectively. "Do I want to eat food that is bad for me, and doesn't even taste all that good for a quick chemical rush? Duh, no."

Once you're used to eating well, you'll kind of crave decent foods and really feel it when you eat bad ones. I crammed down a bunch of pizza, chips and cupcakes during the superbowl, and I had to have some carrots and celery. I really, genuinely, wanted it more than more junk food.

My favorite "dessert" right now: Real peanut butter. This is sold by our local Kroger skin. Nothing but ground up peanuts. I add some salt. Slice up an apple. Dip apple slices in PB. Yum.

Another good nut/fruit combo is pistachios and oranges.

Another good "desert" is dates, maybe with some cinnamon.

Working out:

Park far away. Always take the stairs. Go out of your way to walk more and take more stairs. I like this because, in many cases it actually saves you time and effort. (why do people spend 10 minutes looking for a spot that will save 30 seconds of walking?)

Cardio: Burst training seems to be the most efficient and effective. I really hate cardio and slack off on this. But, it's better than prolonged running or biking or whathave you. Over quickly.

Some say it has a bunch of other positive side effects, while other cardio can have negative effects (which is why Marathon runners look like crap).

There are a million youtube videos on it, but here is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzJRipnfitg

Weights: I hate lifting weights much less than doing cardio. No desire to be Mr. Universe, but it's nice to not be a total blob too. I have about 5 exorcises I cycle through, trying to do each at least once a week. Under an hour total per week. Just having muscle also burns calories.

Essentials: do it till your muscles fail. Then make sure to rest those muscles for a couple days, because that's when they are growing.

Most effective, but also most painful: The super slow method.

Again, millions of videos, but here is one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIpjB31y2Ow&t=1044s




1) Neither. I'm not a damn savage. Any random Mexican joint run by real Mexicans slays both.
2) Not that I'm aware of. Is Trump hosting the next Wov meetup?
3) Yes. Will he work for food?
4) I'm for it
5) Minimal.



I mentioned doing a 24 hours fast a few weeks ago to my wife and she thought I was insane. She said that is no way to diet, bla bla bla. However over the last 7 weeks or so I have been playing poker on Sunday so this is almost my fast except for drinking. I eat dinner around 6 on Saturday. No breakfast on Sunday then I start poker around 11am. I have been quitting around 8pm and on my way out I grab a piece of plain pizza. It probably has around 600 calories to it. During my session I drink 1 hot chocolate, 2 black coffees, and about 8 waters. So for the 24 hour period I consume approx 200 calories. I didn't do it on purpose at first, it just kinda fit my schedule. Now I have made it a thing. My weigh in is Monday morning so I figure it might help me drop the 1 or 2 pounds.

I have done 0 exercising so far, however I have been adding those extra steps. Like at work I park at the next building over so I get the extra 1/8 mile walk to work. Same thing with shopping, went to Target yesterday and parked in the last spot in the lot. Those little things probably add up to something over time. I plan on exercising once I hit a weight loss plateau. -18.4 pounds so far since Jan 8th.
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February 14th, 2017 at 6:20:29 AM permalink
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February 14th, 2017 at 6:27:56 AM permalink
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In case there are any coin collectors around this forum ....

Most of you probably know that I am one of the casino chip collectors around here and that I started the Casino Chip of the Day discussion thread, which is still going strong. Chips are the primary thing I collect these days but not the only thing.

Back when I was 10 or 11 years old, someone gave me some albums for collecting/displaying Lincoln cents, and I tried to collect each of the different versions that I could find. I still have those albums, but they are a bit worn, and I purchased new ones as replacements plus more to cover the more recent years. Very old cents don't seem to come up in circulation these days, so about all I do is add the newest cents when I find them in my change.

Today, I encountered my first 2017 Lincoln cent -- found it on the floor in a restaurant! When I started to put it into its place in my latest album, I noticed something quite surprising: It has a P mint mark, to show that it was produced in the Philadelphia mint. This was surprising because the Philadelphia mint has never previously used a P to indicate the mint on a one-cent coin -- not since the beginning in 1793. Their cents were always without a mint mark at all.

I quickly did a search and found this article that discusses the release of this unique coin. The article says that it is to commemorate the 225th anniversary of the mint and that it is a one-year thing, returning to no mint mark for the 2018 Lincoln cents.

Just thought someone might be interested. We return you now to your previously scheduled programming ....

Thanks for posting this, Doc. I'll keep an eye out for them.

BTW, you don't happen to have a copper 1943 cent in your collection, do you? :)

Speaking of pennies, there is a local bar/restaurant that "wallpapered" their interior walls with pennies!



They compose two of the walls in the dining room, as well as the hall walls and the bathroom walls! I hear the total is over a million pennies!
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February 14th, 2017 at 7:01:41 AM permalink
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BTW, you don't happen to have a copper 1943 cent in your collection, do you? :)

No, I don't. That ever-reliable resource Wikipedia (note: sarcasm) does have a pretty good article on the Lincoln cent. One of the comments is as follows:
Quote: Wikipedia

A few 1943 bronze cents and 1944 steel cents are known to exist, and are valuable. Only one 1943-D cent in bronze is known; it sold in September 2010 for $1.7 million. One of the four known 1943-S cents in bronze was sold to Texas Rangers baseball team co-chairman Bob R. Simpson for $1 million. There are also many cents dated 1943 that were coated with copper to imitate the genuine rarity. These pieces may be distinguished from genuine off-metal strikes by the use of a magnet. The planchets from which the 1943 and 1944 off-metal strikes were coined were most likely concealed in the coining equipment and were struck when coinage resumed after year end.

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February 14th, 2017 at 8:00:40 AM permalink
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February 14th, 2017 at 8:47:35 AM permalink
about fasting: do I have to be the one to say it? Many say it doesn't work well in trying to lose weight because the way your body defends itself against starvation - some disagree, there are advocates who seem to know what they are talking about.

But I can say for sure it works poorly if you go a period of time and then feel you can splurge. I think the bottom line is that it can be done wrong, period, so study up on it if you do it.

Quote: Web MD link, for instance

Keep in mind that the initial weight lost on a fast is primarily fluid or "water weight," not fat. And when you go back to eating, any lost weight usually gets a return ticket back. Not only do most people regain weight lost on a fast, they tend to add a few extra pounds because a slower metabolism makes it easier to gain weight. Worse, the weight that is regained is likely to be all fat -- lost muscle has to be added back at the gym.



http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diet-myth-truth-fasting-effective-weight-loss#1
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February 14th, 2017 at 9:38:20 AM permalink
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February 14th, 2017 at 12:41:26 PM permalink
Today was exciting. I put my belt on like I do everyday and I had to use the next hole down. I used the 2nd hole since I bought it, then when I gained some weight recently I noticed I had to use the 3rd hole. As of today I am using the first hole. I am not sure what that equates to in inches but seems decent. I can't wait until I have to buy a new belt. I wonder how much more I will lose and have to buy some new clothes. My pants are definitely a little big but I don't think they need replaced yet.
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February 14th, 2017 at 1:38:37 PM permalink
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Today was exciting. I put my belt on like I do everyday and I had to use the next hole down. I used the 2nd hole since I bought it, then when I gained some weight recently I noticed I had to use the 3rd hole. As of today I am using the first hole. I am not sure what that equates to in inches but seems decent. I can't wait until I have to buy a new belt. I wonder how much more I will lose and have to buy some new clothes. My pants are definitely a little big but I don't think they need replaced yet.



Nice work!

The extra walking stuff is how I started as well. It does help, and I think one of the first things it does is snap you out of being slothful.

As far as fasting, I started doing the same thing, with poker. It works well if you are busy in the evenings. You're just focused on your activity. When it's done, you'll be ready for bed. Easy. I'd lose the hot chocolate. You'll save 200 empty calories, and a lot of sugar. We almost all eat WAY too much sugar, as it's added to all kinds of things. Some guy on the radio said 70% of the items in a grocery store have added sugar. Contributes to fatty liver disease, diabetes, etc.

As to the concerns for effectiveness, this isn't a one time fast, or a 48 hour fast. Another term for it is calorie cycling. The goal isn't to lose weight overnight, but to regulate your long term intake of calories. But I think it also builds discipline. It might have a positive impact on metabolism.
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February 14th, 2017 at 4:21:28 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Nice work!

The extra walking stuff is how I started as well. It does help, and I think one of the first things it does is snap you out of being slothful.

As far as fasting, I started doing the same thing, with poker. It works well if you are busy in the evenings. You're just focused on your activity. When it's done, you'll be ready for bed. Easy. I'd lose the hot chocolate. You'll save 200 empty calories, and a lot of sugar. We almost all eat WAY too much sugar, as it's added to all kinds of things. Some guy on the radio said 70% of the items in a grocery store have added sugar. Contributes to fatty liver disease, diabetes, etc.

As to the concerns for effectiveness, this isn't a one time fast, or a 48 hour fast. Another term for it is calorie cycling. The goal isn't to lose weight overnight, but to regulate your long term intake of calories. But I think it also builds discipline. It might have a positive impact on metabolism.



I played poker for 3 hours before work. I normally would have a hot chocolate but after reading somethings last night I decided to give up the hot chocolate. One site said that 1 or 2 cups of black coffee is actually good for you. It jump starts your metabolism and gives you a little boost. So today I had a bottle of water, then a coffee but I did put 1 pack of sweet and low. I know it is garbage but better than hot chocolate right? Them 2 more bottles of water. I also ate a small bowl of oatmeal before I left and a half cup of strawberries. I think it was a good start to a morning lifestyle change.

I wonder how many people have blocked me now with all this diet talk. I am totally obsessed with this diet. I am literally driving everyone around me insane but I don't care. 19 pounds down and wife has lost 14.
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February 14th, 2017 at 4:53:40 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

What's with all this diet talk horseplay? I thought this thread used to be about serious miscellaneous discussions about the important questions in life, such as

1) qdoba or chipotle?
2) Will you be going to the White House?
3) Would you hire GWAE to build a deck?
4) What is your stance on bathroom use?
5) Education about weather terms like point dew and line frost.


I have never eaten at a qdoba or a chipotle.
I have built a deck
I wouldn't go to the white house
Use the bathroom when u have to go,or when you need to reload a teamate.
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