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July 29th, 2023 at 4:11:31 PM permalink
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A family was arrested for fraud after they exported eight million dollars worth of cans to California. Cans sold in California are subject to a five-cent fee, which is returnable. Cans in Arizona are not subject to the deposit, so the family was able to buy scrap cans in Arizona for under a cent and transport them to Cali where they were worth a nickel each. Evidently, this is frowned upon.
I'd have taken them to Michigan.
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8,000,000/0.05 = 160 million cans [I'm thinking it was over a period of years]

greed got em
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It was done over six months.
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Apparently they owned a bunch of recycling centers that's how they got so many cans on a regular basis they bought them in bulk.

I'm more interested in that family who found all those gold coins in Kentucky or maybe Tennessee. Gold coins buried during the Civil War and are now worth millions. How many people are having daydreams about that. I've been digging on my property and I found a shovel they probably dates to about 1900. Not quite the same as a bag of gold coins.
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July 29th, 2023 at 4:34:23 PM permalink
I've been treasure-hunting my entire life. It used to be easy to spin stuff into gold, but there is way more competition these days.
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July 31st, 2023 at 1:14:05 PM permalink
Rapper Cardi B threw her microphone at the audience at a show in sin city recently, and a woman who was hit by it has filed a police report.

Shoudl the entertainer be criminally charged with assault"

It is axiomatic, I think, that the woman filing the report is doing so only to bolster her expected personal injury claim.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cardi-b-police-report-microphone-las-vegas-rcna97344
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July 31st, 2023 at 1:30:23 PM permalink
If Cardi B gets charged with assault then the person that threw the "drink" should be charged as well. For all Cardi B knew, that woman was throwing a cup or urine or acid or god knows what else.
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July 31st, 2023 at 4:03:29 PM permalink
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If Cardi B gets charged with assault then the person that threw the "drink" should be charged as well. For all Cardi B knew, that woman was throwing a cup or urine or acid or god knows what else.
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I don't know if they have that person's id, or if it was caught on video. They should be arrested if they are caught.
Getting hit in the head by a projectile thrown from the stage is not the fantastic customer experience I paid for.
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August 2nd, 2023 at 11:21:23 PM permalink
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Well that was neither interesting nor was it fun. I went to a family reunion this weekend and my wife and I get across the Mackinac Bridge at about 11:00 a.m. into the upper peninsula of Michigan and she gets a text from a relative in the Saginaw area. They are bringing the two most elderly women in the family both in their 90s and sisters from the nursing home to the reunion. They have rented some kind of vehicle that holds 11 or 12 people and they are on their way to the same place we're going. They get a text from the nursing home saying they've had a covid breakout and four of the inmates there have been diagnosed with covid and they have to turn around and bring back the elderly sisters because everybody's under quarantine and the place is under lockdown. Not only that but now all the people in this vehicle have been exposed and they're supposed to be under voluntary quarantine.

I'm sure nobody remembers but in the 2020 I reported here that my sister-in-law on the way to the same reunion contracted covid in the vehicle she was in from another relative who was coughing her head off and had no idea she had covid. The sister-in-law died in the hospital a month later and devastated the entire family and of course they have not forgotten this so panic set in and the entire reunion was canceled. With so many people not coming what was the point. Turns out there's a 10% bump nationwide in covid admissions in hospitals all across the country, worse in some places better in others. Do we hear about this on the news? Hell no, those days are long gone now we just pretend covid is no longer with us.

So my wife makes me stop at the Kewadin Casino in Saint Ignace in the UP and we're there about an hour so she can lose $75 in the slot machines. I was thinking the whole time how the hell did I ever play roulette in a brick and mortar Casino. It is so slow and you have to wait so long to make a bet if it's not playing your game, I honestly don't remember how I did it. I used to go a lot that's how I did it. Anyway so we're back home now and it was not even an adventure, it's the same old crap. Covid ruining everything.
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And yet year's ago ,I told you , you should be playing online, and you scoffed and me.

After you started playing online having problems with slow checks and fees, I told you, you should use BTC( I can't recall exactly what the value at that time was but probably between 400-11k). You tried but couldn't figure out how to biy it I guess. I offered to send you some but you dissed on BTC hard after that.


I have always been touting the use of multiple casinos computers and monitors etc. You weren't having any of that nonsense at the time. But guess what you claim to be doing now.?

I cant be a 1000000% sure you haven't been winning on roulette. I am 100000% sure that if you haven't found some way to actually profit from roulette that you are not even scratching the surface of its potential. Even if it's not about the money...you claim time is very precious to you. I can guarantee you that you are far far from maximizing your time to profit ratio. Whatever you claim to be making per month playing most days,(enough to play your bills) could easily be done in a few day's .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 3rd, 2023 at 11:15:15 AM permalink
When I knew climate change existed:
https://thestarryeye.typepad.com/weather/2012/11/year-by-year-recap-of-new-york-city-weather-highlights.html
https://thestarryeye.typepad.com/weather/2013/06/1973-weather-highlights-for-new-york-.html
NYC, JANUARY 1973
1/1/1973 - Under overcast skies, morning temperatures ranged between 58° and 60° before slowly dropping beginning early in the afternoon.
Yup, just one day of near summer in the middle of winter.
It was getting near 67° where I was visiting in Northeastern NJ.
1/29/1973 - Rain changed to snow around daybreak and the 1.8" that accumulated was not only the first snow of the winter (the latest date on record, until the winter of 2023), but would be the largest accumulation of the entire winter. (Until 2022, this was the last time an inch or more of snow fell on this date.)
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August 6th, 2023 at 3:32:08 AM permalink
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kinna interesting - to me anyway - don't really know how accurate this is - maybe some techies will comment

from a tech site - how long would it take for a computer to crack your password:


8 characters password


Lowercase letters only__________ instantly

+ 1 uppercase letter________ half an hour

+ 1 number ________________one hour

+ 1 special symbol_________ one day



12 characters password


Lowercase letters only_____ several weeks

+ 1 uppercase letter________ 5 years

+ 1 number___________________2 thousand years

+ 1 special symbol___________ _63 thousand years


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August 6th, 2023 at 3:57:13 AM permalink
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kinna interesting - to me anyway - don't really know how accurate this is - maybe some techies will comment

from a tech site - how long would it take for a computer to crack your password:


8 characters password


Lowercase letters only__________ instantly

+ 1 uppercase letter________ half an hour

+ 1 number ________________one hour

+ 1 special symbol_________ one day



12 characters password


Lowercase letters only_____ several weeks

+ 1 uppercase letter________ 5 years

+ 1 number___________________2 thousand years

+ 1 special symbol___________ _63 thousand years


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26^8
52^8
62^8
75^8 (The number of "specials" varies by password system, but 13 is about right)

Run again for ^12 for the other set.

https://xkcd.com/936 ("Correct Horse Battery Staple")

The FIRST thing an attacker usually tries when they figure out your password is if your password for service X works with your email address anywhere else. Use different passwords for different services.
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August 6th, 2023 at 3:59:19 AM permalink
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kinna interesting - to me anyway - don't really know how accurate this is - maybe some techies will comment

from a tech site - how long would it take for a computer to crack your password:


8 characters password


Lowercase letters only__________ instantly

+ 1 uppercase letter________ half an hour

+ 1 number ________________one hour

+ 1 special symbol_________ one day



12 characters password


Lowercase letters only_____ several weeks

+ 1 uppercase letter________ 5 years

+ 1 number___________________2 thousand years

+ 1 special symbol___________ _63 thousand years


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These kinds of evaluations don't ever remind us that many sites will protect you by not allowing multiple attempts. With those sites, 8 character alpha numeric is fine, though you shouldn't include guessable stuff like your pet's name.

Some situations mean the site can't protect you like that; college professors that need to protect test questions for example. If the site shuts down due to multiple attempts, then it would be shut down all the time to the prof. too
When you have that situation, you need to follow the best advice for good passwords
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August 6th, 2023 at 3:59:36 AM permalink
How long would it take me to look up over 1,000 of my own old passwords and reset them to something different and type down the results, and log-in to each site at least twice while doing it.
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August 6th, 2023 at 4:07:02 AM permalink
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kinna interesting - to me anyway - don't really know how accurate this is - maybe some techies will comment

from a tech site - how long would it take for a computer to crack your password:


8 characters password


Lowercase letters only__________ instantly

+ 1 uppercase letter________ half an hour

+ 1 number ________________one hour

+ 1 special symbol_________ one day



12 characters password


Lowercase letters only_____ several weeks

+ 1 uppercase letter________ 5 years

+ 1 number___________________2 thousand years

+ 1 special symbol___________ _63 thousand years


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These kinds of evaluations don't ever remind us that many sites will protect you by not allowing multiple attempts. With those sites, 8 character alpha numeric is fine, though you shouldn't include guessable stuff like your pet's name.

Some situations mean the site can't protect you like that; college professors that need to protect test questions for example. If the site shuts down due to multiple attempts, then it would be shut down all the time to the prof. too
When you have that situation, you need to follow the best advice for good passwords
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For those speeds, I think it would be an "offline" attack on the hash file. The lockout or slowdown after n failed attempts would not apply.
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August 6th, 2023 at 6:27:27 AM permalink
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I've been reading that using public WiFi spots can be risky -
in addition to typical scamming whoever runs the spot can get your passwords

comments______?

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August 6th, 2023 at 7:32:41 AM permalink
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I've been reading that using public WiFi spots can be risky -
in addition to typical scamming whoever runs the spot can get your passwords

comments______?

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evidently can happen *if* you have to use a password. Many sites [like this one and gmail] don't constantly ask for the password
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On my first trip to Bisbee, I ended up in a local bar, where I was told tourists don't usually venture. The guy sitting next to me was an old-timer who started filling me in on local history. The guy claimed he'd worked twenty years underground before becoming an undercover cop and then working for the Sheriff's office for thirty years. To say I was dubious would be an understatement, but I'd run into him occasionally, and he always had a story to tell.
I was surprised a few weeks ago when I saw a flyer saying he was nominated for a very high community award, and was thrilled to see he was awarded The Arizona Community Spirit award, something less than three dozen Arizonians have been awarded.
The award goes over his resume and tells how he secretly took police courses while working at the mine. His first assignment as a cop was a year and a half long undercover assignment taking down a motorcycle gang importing drugs thru Tucson.
How he became a uniformed officer in Bisbee before becoming the Under-Sheriff of Cochise County, his role in the Miracle Valley shootout, and how, after over thirty years in the police work, he returned to become the main guide when the mine was opened for tourism.
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August 6th, 2023 at 8:58:57 AM permalink
For passwords just do something like: the residential address of a former girlfriend.

I don't use this one anymore, but I formerly used a password something like: 158Hoover!

because a girlfriend's address at the time was 158 Hoover Ave and the exclamation point signified my appreciation for the relationship.
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August 6th, 2023 at 10:00:41 AM permalink
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For passwords just do something like: the residential address of a former girlfriend.

I don't use this one anymore, but I formerly used a password something like: 158Hoover!

because a girlfriend's address at the time was 158 Hoover Ave and the exclamation point signified my appreciation for the relationship.
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I use a unique password for every site that I access.
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August 7th, 2023 at 4:30:14 AM permalink
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re passwords:

many sites now require one "special" character such as &

prolly just about everybody puts in just one "special" character

if you put in 2 or 3 it might be much harder to crack -

I tend to think a computer might not search for more than one "special" character

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August 7th, 2023 at 5:26:44 AM permalink
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I use a unique password for every site that I access.
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I do this and also usually use a unique user name

I may be mistaken but I think the unique user is extra protection. I get irritated if the website remembers and auto-fills the user name
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August 7th, 2023 at 7:55:30 AM permalink
Latest in password cracking.

Quote:

...by training an AI model on the sound of keystrokes and deploying it on a nearby phone. The integrated microphone listened for keystrokes on a MacBook Pro and was able to reproduce them with 95% accuracy — the highest accuracy the researchers have seen without the use of a large language model.

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August 7th, 2023 at 6:35:02 PM permalink
Ever see those shoe commercials for shoes you just slip in or out. I've been doing that for years,
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August 8th, 2023 at 5:34:26 PM permalink
Warren Buffet says college is a waste of time and money. As one who went to a University for five years I both agree and disagree. I agree that the same education is available without going to college if the person can commit to learning on their own. In my case I do not recall learning anything in college classes that I deem useful in my everyday professional life. I was pretty advanced in my computer skills before college so the classes were a joke for me. I was already programming for work before I even went to college. For me the biggest advantage of going to college was getting access to "high speed" computers.

One of the points Warren discusses is that "college educated" people earn more money but his counter point is that we don't know if those same people would have earned more money even if they didn't go to college.

At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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August 8th, 2023 at 5:43:53 PM permalink
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Warren Buffet says college is a waste of time and money. As one who went to a University for five years I both agree and disagree. I agree that the same education is available without going to college if the person can commit to learning on their own. In my case I do not recall learning anything in college classes that I deem useful in my everyday professional life. I was pretty advanced in my computer skills before college so the classes were a joke for me. I was already programming for work before I even went to college. For me the biggest advantage of going to college was getting access to "high speed" computers.

One of the points Warren discusses is that "college educated" people earn more money but his counter point is that we don't know if those same people would have earned more money even if they didn't go to college.


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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.

It would be easy to determine what a non-college educated counterfactual cohort makes in comparison to their college educated counterparts,
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August 8th, 2023 at 6:07:02 PM permalink
Some big time successful people either dropped out of college or never went. But I suspect, many had a pretty good idea of both what they were willing to do and what they were capable of. I certainly doubt most people fit that scenario and if you do, you probably are well aware of it by college age.
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August 8th, 2023 at 6:37:55 PM permalink
I suspect majority of big time successful people who dropped out of college are neurodivergent. Education model is very square peg doesn’t fit round hole for that type.

People who graduate, on average, will have more resources to start with and more ambition than those that didn’t. So what’s more responsible of the 3 factors? Certainly a 4 year degree gives more options for shifting to a different industry mid life.

Classic correlation vs causation question. The “value of college” statistics may be the reason students are on a default calculus track rather than statistics so that they don’t even question it…
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August 8th, 2023 at 6:38:04 PM permalink
The most important thing I got from college was a lifelong networking system through my fraternities. I think they've been much more valuable than my degree.
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August 8th, 2023 at 6:43:44 PM permalink
I got nothing from college, I graduated in 1971 and it was a vast waste of time. I couldn't even find employment in my field of choice and I've never used it for anything. Luckily it didn't cost much, classes were a few hundred dollars each in the late 60s and I paid for it by working full time. Easy peasy. If there were school loans in those days I never heard of any at the State College I went to. I didn't even live on campus I lived at home because I worked full time so I made no college friends. I missed out on the college experience entirely but so did everybody else I knew. It was just a glorified extension of high school. If I had to do over I'd skip it entirely.
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August 8th, 2023 at 7:10:39 PM permalink
It might seem useless, but I want someone like Robert Oppenheimer designing/developing the atomic bomb to be exposed to philosophy, ethics, history, politics, and a variety of supposedly unrelated subjects. He did a pretty good job on his own, but the point is still relevant IMO.
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I got nothing from college, I graduated in 1971 and it was a vast waste of time.]

OBVIOUSLY!!!
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August 9th, 2023 at 12:04:54 AM permalink
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I got nothing from college, I graduated in 1971 and it was a vast waste of time.]

OBVIOUSLY!!!
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3 days for insult.
This is over the line from mere 'razz'.
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August 9th, 2023 at 5:08:39 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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August 9th, 2023 at 7:19:29 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Most states require a degree to become a lawyer. I know California opens its bar exam to anyone, but it is the most difficult to pass of the 50 states, and I think it has been years since a civilian passed it. You also have to pass the Baby Bar test in order to qualify for the Bar test. I believe you need a degree in NY to qualify for the Bar exam. A few old-timers are left without law degrees, but the rules changed a long time ago.
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August 9th, 2023 at 7:22:48 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

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August 9th, 2023 at 7:27:00 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Most states require a degree to become a lawyer. I know California opens its bar exam to anyone, but it is the most difficult to pass of the 50 states, and I think it has been years since a civilian passed it. You also have to pass the Baby Bar test in order to qualify for the Bar test. I believe you need a degree in NY to qualify for the Bar exam. A few old-timers are left without law degrees, but the rules changed a long time ago.
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I agree that most state do but not all, therefore you can be a licensed attorney without a law degree.
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August 9th, 2023 at 7:36:30 AM permalink
Both Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger are out of touch with the way the current real world operates. They definitely had their day and were/are very successful, but they need to stop giving advice, and people need to stop taking their advice as the end-all be-all of being successful.
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August 9th, 2023 at 7:57:58 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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There is a whole plethora of professions where a college education or classroom post-secondary education is required for licensure in most states. Most health professions, engineers and architects, CPAs are notable examples.
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August 9th, 2023 at 8:01:55 AM permalink
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Quote: DRich

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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Most states require a degree to become a lawyer. I know California opens its bar exam to anyone, but it is the most difficult to pass of the 50 states, and I think it has been years since a civilian passed it. You also have to pass the Baby Bar test in order to qualify for the Bar test. I believe you need a degree in NY to qualify for the Bar exam. A few old-timers are left without law degrees, but the rules changed a long time ago.
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I agree that most state do but not all, therefore you can be a licensed attorney without a law degree.
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How's that working out for Kim Kardashian? It's taking her years to even get to point where she can sit for the bar. If she just went to law school, she'd be done by now.
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August 9th, 2023 at 8:02:54 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
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August 9th, 2023 at 8:36:05 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

tuttigym
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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
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Are all "doctors" pharmacists?

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August 9th, 2023 at 8:51:46 AM permalink
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How's that working out for Kim Kardashian? It's taking her years to even get to point where she can sit for the bar. If she just went to law school, she'd be done by now.
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It's also not even remotely her main goal in life. She's basically doing it for fun.
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August 9th, 2023 at 8:53:54 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

tuttigym
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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
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Are all "doctors" pharmacists?

tuttigym
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Until the education requirements changed in the early 2000s, not all pharmacists have entry-level doctoral degrees.

Medical doctors are not credentialed as pharmacists, and haven't been since 1241 AD, with the Edict of Salerno.
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August 9th, 2023 at 8:58:13 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

tuttigym
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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
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Are all "doctors" pharmacists?

tuttigym
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Until the education requirements changed in the early 2000s, not all pharmacists have entry-level doctoral degrees.

Medical doctors are not credentialed as pharmacists, and haven't been since 1241 AD, with the Edict of Salerno.
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I have found pharmacists to be far more knowledgeable about the drugs they are dispensing then the doctors that are prescribing them.
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August 9th, 2023 at 9:16:08 AM permalink
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

tuttigym
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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
link to original post


Are all "doctors" pharmacists?

tuttigym
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Until the education requirements changed in the early 2000s, not all pharmacists have entry-level doctoral degrees.

Medical doctors are not credentialed as pharmacists, and haven't been since 1241 AD, with the Edict of Salerno.
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I have found pharmacists to be far more knowledgeable about the drugs they are dispensing then the doctors that are prescribing them.
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Doctors are more likely to regularly prescribe drugs related specifically to what they do. So, they're just not as likely to constantly deal with alll manner of drugs and their alternatives like a pharmacist will have to. Also, pharmacists probably deal with 20 more times the number of drugs in one day than a doctor.
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There are many professions where an education from an accredited college is required for licensure, And rightfully so.



Are there? I believe becoming a doctor requires it but what are the others? I know it isn't required to become a lawyer or accountant.
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Pharmacy???

tuttigym
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Are pharmacists not doctors?
(I've only known a few socially, but they have been.)
link to original post


Are all "doctors" pharmacists?

tuttigym
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Until the education requirements changed in the early 2000s, not all pharmacists have entry-level doctoral degrees.

Medical doctors are not credentialed as pharmacists, and haven't been since 1241 AD, with the Edict of Salerno.
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I have found pharmacists to be far more knowledgeable about the drugs they are dispensing then the doctors that are prescribing them.
link to original post



Doctors are more likely to regularly prescribe drugs related specifically to what they do. So, they're just not as likely to constantly deal with alll manner of drugs and their alternatives like a pharmacist will have to. Also, pharmacists probably deal with 20 more times the number of drugs in one day than a doctor.
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The last pharmacist I had told me that he constantly got phone calls from doctors with drug questions. That should tell you everything. This new pharmacist I have is a woman and you're lucky if you can get her to be nice to you let alone talk.
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August 9th, 2023 at 1:29:26 PM permalink
Have you ever heard of Nub City? Sometimes the truth is just weird.

Florida used to have an insurance regulation most states didn't. They allowed you to collect your full life insurance benefit if you suffered a serious loss of limbs. You couldn't collect for losing a finger or a toe but lose a foot or arm and you could collect.

No one knows where it started. Perhaps someone lost a leg in an accident and collected a small payout. Anyhow, this insurance scam flourished in Florida, where 75% of the nation's accidental maimings occurred over a five-year stretch.
The town of Vernon had nothing going for it. The new highways and railroad bypassed it and many of its young men took advantage of their GI Benefits to move away.
In an almost unbelievable run of bad luck, fifty of the town's six hundred residents met with non-lethal accidents. The early claims were small-$5,000-$10,000 but as people got away with it, claims went nuts.
A farmer's son collected $5,000 and used it to buy a million-dollar policy on his father. A month later, in a drunken fit, the farmer blew his foot off, claiming a rabid squirrel was attacking him.
One guy took out over twenty life insurance policies, passed out drunk and lost a leg when his neighbor ran over it.
It got to the point where insurance companies briefly stopped offering life insurance in several parts of the state, but the State Attorney refused to prosecute anyone. He simply refused to believe a man would blow off a limb to collect money.
In the 1980s, a film crew went to Vernon to film a documentary on the subject but was attacked by the son of a man who lost his arm in a gun cleaning accident. The moviemaker changed direction and focused on how inbred and nasty the people in the town were/are.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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August 9th, 2023 at 1:33:23 PM permalink
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It got to the point where insurance companies briefly stopped offering life insurance in several parts of the state, but the State Attorney refused to prosecute anyone. He simply refused to believe a man would blow off a limb to collect money.



I would be willing to lose a limb just to win a weight loss contest.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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August 9th, 2023 at 2:14:31 PM permalink
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Have you ever heard of Nub City? Sometimes the truth is just weird.

Florida used to have an insurance regulation most states didn't. They allowed you to collect your full life insurance benefit if you suffered a serious loss of limbs. You couldn't collect for losing a finger or a toe but lose a foot or arm and you could collect.

No one knows where it started. Perhaps someone lost a leg in an accident and collected a small payout. Anyhow, this insurance scam flourished in Florida, where 75% of the nation's accidental maimings occurred over a five-year stretch.
The town of Vernon had nothing going for it. The new highways and railroad bypassed it and many of its young men took advantage of their GI Benefits to move away.
In an almost unbelievable run of bad luck, fifty of the town's six hundred residents met with non-lethal accidents. The early claims were small-$5,000-$10,000 but as people got away with it, claims went nuts.
A farmer's son collected $5,000 and used it to buy a million-dollar policy on his father. A month later, in a drunken fit, the farmer blew his foot off, claiming a rabid squirrel was attacking him.
One guy took out over twenty life insurance policies, passed out drunk and lost a leg when his neighbor ran over it.
It got to the point where insurance companies briefly stopped offering life insurance in several parts of the state, but the State Attorney refused to prosecute anyone. He simply refused to believe a man would blow off a limb to collect money.
In the 1980s, a film crew went to Vernon to film a documentary on the subject but was attacked by the son of a man who lost his arm in a gun cleaning accident. The moviemaker changed direction and focused on how inbred and nasty the people in the town were/are.
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Before issuing a from the hip "fact," you should have a copy of the contract (life insurance is a contract) to which you are referring. Most insurance carriers offer riders at an additional cost that cover loss of limbs with specified amounts. You need to provide some form of proof for the tall tales offered here.

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August 9th, 2023 at 2:21:53 PM permalink
Here's an article about it.

It doesn't say anything in that article about people getting the FULL benefit of their life insurance, however.
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August 9th, 2023 at 2:30:47 PM permalink
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Here's an article about it.

It doesn't say anything in that article about people getting the FULL benefit of their life insurance, however.
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Thanks Tiger. The article specified rather small benefits usually associated with insurance riders as I stated. Rider premium costs rose with the increase in claims. What was not mentioned was the possible SS claims available or loss of limbs.

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3 days for insult.
This is over the line from mere 'razz'.
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