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November 30th, 2022 at 10:28:21 PM permalink
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Such coatings have already existed in industry and in the Department of Energy's National Labs: for example Sandia, Lawrence Berkeley, Lawrence Livermore. The Notre Dame press release is just a bit of fluff put together by a PR department that is unaware of what is happening elsewhere in the world.
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I think the claim was about the best material of its kind so far. Not that it was the first or only.

Quote:

The result was a 1.2 micron-thick coating that outperforms all other heat-reducing glass coatings on the market.

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November 30th, 2022 at 10:37:04 PM permalink
I don't know what exists at Defense Labs, or (DARPA), buy maybe they don't either, but that's not on a public market.
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December 3rd, 2022 at 12:19:46 PM permalink
Best argument

for a bidet.

If a flying pig pooped on your head, would you just wipe it off with paper?
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December 3rd, 2022 at 12:27:12 PM permalink
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Best argument

for a bidet.

If a flying pig pooped on your head, would you just wipe it off with paper?
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If the poop was only a small amount, and my head was completely shaved, and no one ever saw my head, or touched it with their bare hands, including me, and it was covered up with several layers of clothing at all times, and it was perfectly culturally acceptable to do it, then yes, I probably would wipe it off with just toilet paper.

If a flying pig pooped on YOUR head, would you just rinse it off with water, or would you get in the shower and shampoo the hell out of it?
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December 3rd, 2022 at 2:57:22 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Best argument

for a bidet.

If a flying pig pooped on your head, would you just wipe it off with paper?
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The best argument for a bidet toilet with a heated seat. Take a trip to Tokyo and try it. Amazing and you will never want to go back.
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December 3rd, 2022 at 3:10:18 PM permalink
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If a flying pig pooped on your head, would you just wipe it off with paper?



I'd be too gob-smacked over seeing a flying pig; my response would be to try to capture the flying pig, and failing that to shoot it, all in aid of learning its secret of self-powered flight, thus allowing me to become richer than Elon.

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December 3rd, 2022 at 3:15:49 PM permalink
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If a flying pig pooped on your head, would you just wipe it off with paper?



I'd be too gob-smacked over seeing a flying pig; my response would be to try to capture the flying pig, and failing that to shoot it, all in aid of learning its secret of self-powered flight, thus alloweing me to become richer than Elon.


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I can imagine that a pig being shot out of one of those circus cannons would meet the criteria of (1) flying, and (2) pooping.

I'd wipe, then wash.
Then probably wash again.
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December 11th, 2022 at 4:09:13 PM permalink
Strange day with my mobile network being out all day. You don't realize how much you use it but it was nice being unplugged. Had WiFi in morning,but that was it.
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December 12th, 2022 at 11:40:46 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Our UK energy market is in a bad way, so are government and personal finance.

Nothing to do with Bitcoin


A Washington Post article dated on or about 11/18/2022 headlines "One thing after another': Brits face series of crises"

The article paints a dark and dire picture of double-digit inflation, rising interest rates, and political upheaval. A short summary states: "Though Britain shares many ills with other European countries, its predicament is compounded by two bespoke factors: the legacy of years of austerity which hollowed out public institutions like the National Health Service and Brexit, which has hindered trade with Europe, depressed corporate investment, and squeezed the labor force by creating a shortage of foreign workers."

There is much more in the article, but based on the above, could you comment?

p.s. The above quote is from the Bitcoin thread. I did not want to hijack the thread, so I reproduced it here.

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December 12th, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

Our UK energy market is in a bad way, so are government and personal finance.

Nothing to do with Bitcoin


A Washington Post article dated on or about 11/18/2022 headlines "One thing after another': Brits face series of crises"

The article paints a dark and dire picture of double-digit inflation, rising interest rates, and political upheaval. A short summary states: "Though Britain shares many ills with other European countries, its predicament is compounded by two bespoke factors: the legacy of years of austerity which hollowed out public institutions like the National Health Service and Brexit, which has hindered trade with Europe, depressed corporate investment, and squeezed the labor force by creating a shortage of foreign workers."

There is much more in the article, but based on the above, could you comment?

p.s. The above quote is from the Bitcoin thread. I did not want to hijack the thread, so I reproduced it here.

tuttigym
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I read the Wapo, so I'm familiar with that article.

Currently our generally trusted BBC news cycle is rotating between 'industrial action' 'NHS crisis' and 'Cost of living crisis' They are now out doing the focus on war in Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt

In the NHS, we are seeing ambulances regularly taking many hours to reach emergencies and then waiting up to 15 hours to unload at the hospital. I've never known it that bad. Ambulances used to arrive within 20 minutes and unload at ER within the hour.
A relative just had cancer treatment in hospital. Her nurse could not afford to replace her steam iron and so was working in creased clothes. Nurses are not earning enough to cover food and heating and general living costs.

NHS Nursing morale is very low with a first ever national nursing strike likely by Christmas. It's more than a crisis in that there is no end in sight.
The Cost of living crisis is now enormous. Food price inflation is really well over 20% with staple foods going up in price 10% from one week to the next on some items. Stated CPI figures are being massaged down, but it's clear to see.
Domestic natural gas prices leapt by 172% since this time last year. Domestic electricity by 72%. And they are still rising at that rate or more. Government is giving short term support.
Business energy prices are leaping by hundreds of percent and because gov relief is not available, so many businesses are closing.

Those increases now mean that vast numbers of us are having to turn heating down and cut out food expenditure. Restaurants and pubs are going out of business at an alarming rate because so few people can afford to dine out. Shopping malls are losing some of their longest established FTSE100 shops. Interestingly, profits at Starbucks are growing quickly. A family member operates a franchise and he says that it's because people cannot afford to spend money in the shops or in bigger food outlets, so they come in for a coffee, to have somewhere warm to sit. Some supermarkets are operating 'soup kitchen deals' Unlimited tea and a bowl of soup for £1 for over 60s. Food banks are busy.
Eggs are becoming unavailable because farmers cannot afford to operate. Vegetable farmers that grow indoors are not bothering to operate this year, putting the price of salad foods up. Many farmers are either retiring or skipping fertilising their fields leading to lower crops.

The cause of these crises..... Very much of it is down to a Europe wide loss of imports of cheap Russian natural gas and to a lesser extent oil. Food prices are up because much of our wheat and veg oil came from Ukraine.
Brexit made it worse for the UK than the rest of Europe. Going it alone was the dumbest thing to do at a time of international crisis.
Oh... And covid happened. As we come out of covid, consumer buying grew a bit driving up inflation.
Politically, we have gone through Prime Ministers at something of a pace. I'm not going to start into politics but to state the fact that we had one PM, Liz Truss that did not last 6 weeks. The damage she and the chancellor of the exchequer did SMASHED the UK financial sector, especially pension funds. That's still reverberating.

So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
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December 12th, 2022 at 5:47:08 PM permalink
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Eggs are becoming unavailable because farmers cannot afford to operate. Vegetable farmers that grow indoors are not bothering to operate this year, putting the price of salad foods up. Many farmers are either retiring or skipping fertilising their fields leading to lower crops.

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My observations on this side of the pond show that egg prices have quadrupled over the past year - at least where I pick up eggs. This may have started to normalize; last week, they were only triple the usual price, but there was a sale going.

There was an unusual egg shortage perhaps 10 weeks ago, where the usual store brand packaging was not available, and a more limited quantity of producer labeled eggs was stocked instead. This could indicate trouble at this particular battery (I know them to be the exclusive supplier to the store chain).
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December 13th, 2022 at 6:41:58 AM permalink
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a few days ago - the story has vid of an armed robber being escorted out of Beau Rivage Casino in handcuffs

according to the story patrons assisted by stopping him and allowing security to detain until police arrived

the crowd cheered as he was led out



https://www.wlbt.com/2022/12/09/watch-casino-visitors-cheer-armed-robbery-suspect-escorted-out-beau-rivage/


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December 13th, 2022 at 10:00:22 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: OnceDear

Our UK energy market is in a bad way, so are government and personal finance.

Nothing to do with Bitcoin


A Washington Post article dated on or about 11/18/2022 headlines "One thing after another': Brits face series of crises"

The article paints a dark and dire picture of double-digit inflation, rising interest rates, and political upheaval. A short summary states: "Though Britain shares many ills with other European countries, its predicament is compounded by two bespoke factors: the legacy of years of austerity which hollowed out public institutions like the National Health Service and Brexit, which has hindered trade with Europe, depressed corporate investment, and squeezed the labor force by creating a shortage of foreign workers."

There is much more in the article, but based on the above, could you comment?

p.s. The above quote is from the Bitcoin thread. I did not want to hijack the thread, so I reproduced it here.

tuttigym
link to original post

I read the Wapo, so I'm familiar with that article.

Currently our generally trusted BBC news cycle is rotating between 'industrial action' 'NHS crisis' and 'Cost of living crisis' They are now out doing the focus on war in Ukraine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cljev4jz3pjt

In the NHS, we are seeing ambulances regularly taking many hours to reach emergencies and then waiting up to 15 hours to unload at the hospital. I've never known it that bad. Ambulances used to arrive within 20 minutes and unload at ER within the hour.
A relative just had cancer treatment in hospital. Her nurse could not afford to replace her steam iron and so was working in creased clothes. Nurses are not earning enough to cover food and heating and general living costs.

NHS Nursing morale is very low with a first ever national nursing strike likely by Christmas. It's more than a crisis in that there is no end in sight.
The Cost of living crisis is now enormous. Food price inflation is really well over 20% with staple foods going up in price 10% from one week to the next on some items. Stated CPI figures are being massaged down, but it's clear to see.
Domestic natural gas prices leapt by 172% since this time last year. Domestic electricity by 72%. And they are still rising at that rate or more. Government is giving short term support.
Business energy prices are leaping by hundreds of percent and because gov relief is not available, so many businesses are closing.

Those increases now mean that vast numbers of us are having to turn heating down and cut out food expenditure. Restaurants and pubs are going out of business at an alarming rate because so few people can afford to dine out. Shopping malls are losing some of their longest established FTSE100 shops. Interestingly, profits at Starbucks are growing quickly. A family member operates a franchise and he says that it's because people cannot afford to spend money in the shops or in bigger food outlets, so they come in for a coffee, to have somewhere warm to sit. Some supermarkets are operating 'soup kitchen deals' Unlimited tea and a bowl of soup for £1 for over 60s. Food banks are busy.
Eggs are becoming unavailable because farmers cannot afford to operate. Vegetable farmers that grow indoors are not bothering to operate this year, putting the price of salad foods up. Many farmers are either retiring or skipping fertilising their fields leading to lower crops.

The cause of these crises..... Very much of it is down to a Europe wide loss of imports of cheap Russian natural gas and to a lesser extent oil. Food prices are up because much of our wheat and veg oil came from Ukraine.
Brexit made it worse for the UK than the rest of Europe. Going it alone was the dumbest thing to do at a time of international crisis.
Oh... And covid happened. As we come out of covid, consumer buying grew a bit driving up inflation.
Politically, we have gone through Prime Ministers at something of a pace. I'm not going to start into politics but to state the fact that we had one PM, Liz Truss that did not last 6 weeks. The damage she and the chancellor of the exchequer did SMASHED the UK financial sector, especially pension funds. That's still reverberating.

So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
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Thank you for the info. It truly saddens me to learn of the hardships many are facing with your description above.

If possible, would a return to the EU provide any relief? I believe that your domestic taxes are quite high so to fund not just government but the NHS. Is there room for more increases or could there be another approach to healthcare that would provide wage and benefit increases? Could there be some kind of merit-based immigration policy that would allow for more doctors and nurses and technical specialists?

Do you see any answers?

tuttigym
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December 15th, 2022 at 1:13:06 AM permalink
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another post on a store opening in the mall near me

this store's name is B12 - their business - selling vitamin injections

oh yeah, buddy - you're going to make your 12K monthly rent selling vitamin injections

sure you are

the little stores are going out of business left and right - and it's a very popular mall - but they're dropping like flies


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December 15th, 2022 at 4:38:38 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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another post on a store opening in the mall near me

this store's name is B12 - their business - selling vitamin injections

oh yeah, buddy - you're going to make your 12K monthly rent selling vitamin injections

sure you are

the little stores are going out of business left and right - and it's a very popular mall - but they're dropping like flies


.
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I knew a girl in Vegas that started a company that would come to your hotel room and give you some combination of IV fluids to help you recover from a hangover. She was a licensed paramedic and apparently there was some demand in Vegas to get over your hangover quickly so that you can start your next one.
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December 15th, 2022 at 6:01:02 AM permalink
There were two storefronts within a mile or so of each other that seemed to specialize in B-12 shots in the Tropicana and Maryland area.
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December 15th, 2022 at 7:36:17 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

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another post on a store opening in the mall near me

this store's name is B12 - their business - selling vitamin injections

oh yeah, buddy - you're going to make your 12K monthly rent selling vitamin injections

sure you are

the little stores are going out of business left and right - and it's a very popular mall - but they're dropping like flies


.
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I knew a girl in Vegas that started a company that would come to your hotel room and give you some combination of IV fluids to help you recover from a hangover. She was a licensed paramedic and apparently there was some demand in Vegas to get over your hangover quickly so that you can start your next one.
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Yeah, that was/is a thing. What a horrible idea(great idea for her). I can't believe somthing like that is allowed.
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December 15th, 2022 at 7:47:59 AM permalink
B-12 shots are great.
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December 15th, 2022 at 9:05:39 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I knew a girl in Vegas that started a company that would come to your hotel room and give you some combination of IV fluids to help you recover from a hangover. She was a licensed paramedic and apparently there was some demand in Vegas to get over your hangover quickly so that you can start your next one.
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Just last week, I saw an advertisement inside one of the Wynn's elevators for this very thing as a treatment in their spa! I think I may have spotted a similar ad for another resort's spa, but I can't remember which one.
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December 22nd, 2022 at 3:38:44 PM permalink
I just read a funny article about Michelle Fiore, whom I'd never heard of.

Seems she ran and lost in sin city so she moved to Pahrump and was appointed as judge for their justic court.

https://news.yahoo.com/gop-firebrand-michele-fiore-appointed-211904010.html

Not newsworthy, really except for one thing: she has no law degree nor has she passed the bar.

Political patronage at its finest...bwa ha ha ha, she's a laughingstock.

Looks like Nevada now has its own MTG.
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December 22nd, 2022 at 4:11:21 PM permalink
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Political patronage at its finest...bwa ha ha ha, she's a laughingstock.



Having lived in Las Vegas, I can tell you she was considered a joke, She was in the news for a lot of scandalous stuff.
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December 22nd, 2022 at 4:49:20 PM permalink
She'll fit in well in Nye County.

Have you read about the newly elected Congressman from my old district in Long Island? It is reported he is a wanted criminal in Brazil; the two banks he claimed he worked for never heard of him, nor have the two Universities he claims he graduated from. He said his grandparents were Jews who fled two countries because of nazism, yet records show his grandmothers' parents arrived in Brazil in 1894. He says he has been openly gay for over a decade and happily married, but records show he divorced a woman three years ago, and no one can find his new marriage. He's been evicted from two apartments in the last few years, owns a non-existent charity that owes money to various people, and claimed he makes $750,000 a year in salary with a $1,000,000 bonus working for a company that doesn't seem to exist.
Believe it or not, the lies may be worse. He claimed to have four of his employees killed in the Pulse shooting but couldn't remember their names. His last legit job was VP of a company charged with running a pyramid scheme. Raised a Catholic, he recently started describing himself as a non-observant Jew and fundraising from Jewish Republicans.
He says everything will be explained in three days. Stay tuned.

This is something I believe is newsworthy and not political.
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December 22nd, 2022 at 5:46:41 PM permalink
I wonder if it's related to the death of many newspapers, and downsizing. Only so many things can be covered or investigated. If shrinkage has occurred, it stands to reason they have to "triage" their stories.
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December 22nd, 2022 at 8:27:21 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I just read a funny article about Michelle Fiore, whom I'd never heard of.

Seems she ran and lost in sin city so she moved to Pahrump and was appointed as judge for their justic court.

https://news.yahoo.com/gop-firebrand-michele-fiore-appointed-211904010.html

Not newsworthy, really except for one thing: she has no law degree nor has she passed the bar.

Political patronage at its finest...bwa ha ha ha, she's a laughingstock.

Looks like Nevada now has its own MTG.
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Isn't that the gun toating chick? I saw some family picture/ad where her entire family is sporting guns including a 4-7-year-old kid, perhaps not the infants or whatever.
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December 24th, 2022 at 4:16:17 PM permalink
I'm not much of a country music listener, but I caught these two Christmas songs on the radio tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rym0DTzFoW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_m0JC4hJj4
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December 24th, 2022 at 5:37:07 PM permalink
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So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
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I only hope we are paying attention in the US and avoid some of the same mistakes. Well, I also hope things turn out OK for you in the UK as well. At one point I heard a claim extra deaths will occur in the UK resulting from high energy costs and inability of some to afford heating a home. I guess I have my doubts about that claim, but it was out there
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December 25th, 2022 at 7:43:03 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear


So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
link to original post

I only hope we are paying attention in the US and avoid some of the same mistakes. Well, I also hope things turn out OK for you in the UK as well. At one point I heard a claim extra deaths will occur in the UK resulting from high energy costs and inability of some to afford heating a home. I guess I have my doubts about that claim, but it was out there
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There was an article in the Arizona Republic( the state's #1 newspaper) about the tens of thousands of people in the state who had their electricity cut off. The electric companies couldn't cut you off during Covid but people couldn't pay the back bills so APS cut them off.
Imagine living in an apartment in Phoenix with no AC and no refrigerator when it is 120 degrees out. Heat-related deaths soared over the summer and the paper traced many deaths back to this, but nothing was done about it.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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December 25th, 2022 at 9:39:15 AM permalink
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She'll fit in well in Nye County.

Have you read about the newly elected Congressman from my old district in Long Island? It is reported he is a wanted criminal in Brazil; the two banks he claimed he worked for never heard of him, nor have the two Universities he claims he graduated from. He said his grandparents were Jews who fled two countries because of nazism, yet records show his grandmothers' parents arrived in Brazil in 1894. He says he has been openly gay for over a decade and happily married, but records show he divorced a woman three years ago, and no one can find his new marriage. He's been evicted from two apartments in the last few years, owns a non-existent charity that owes money to various people, and claimed he makes $750,000 a year in salary with a $1,000,000 bonus working for a company that doesn't seem to exist.
Believe it or not, the lies may be worse. He claimed to have four of his employees killed in the Pulse shooting but couldn't remember their names. His last legit job was VP of a company charged with running a pyramid scheme. Raised a Catholic, he recently started describing himself as a non-observant Jew and fundraising from Jewish Republicans.
He says everything will be explained in three days. Stay tuned.

This is something I believe is newsworthy and not political.
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I’ve been following this. He first ran in 2020 and lost. How is it possible his opponent then didn’t even do a cursory check into this guy? How is it possible they didn’t this time?

Now the poor Republicans have him on their side….. his lies, if they were true, would have made him a valuable asset. Now he’s worse than Boebert or MTG!
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December 25th, 2022 at 11:27:08 AM permalink
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Quote: odiousgambit

Quote: OnceDear


So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
link to original post

I only hope we are paying attention in the US and avoid some of the same mistakes. Well, I also hope things turn out OK for you in the UK as well. At one point I heard a claim extra deaths will occur in the UK resulting from high energy costs and inability of some to afford heating a home. I guess I have my doubts about that claim, but it was out there
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There was an article in the Arizona Republic( the state's #1 newspaper) about the tens of thousands of people in the state who had their electricity cut off. The electric companies couldn't cut you off during Covid but people couldn't pay the back bills so APS cut them off.
Imagine living in an apartment in Phoenix with no AC and no refrigerator when it is 120 degrees out. Heat-related deaths soared over the summer and the paper traced many deaths back to this, but nothing was done about it.
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Here in the Northeast, there are rules for when a utility can shut of services due to non-payment. They can, but only during certain months and there are added protections for households with small children or elderly, We're more concerned during the winter than the summer, though.
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December 25th, 2022 at 2:19:10 PM permalink
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There was an article in the Arizona Republic( the state's #1 newspaper) about the tens of thousands of people in the state who had their electricity cut off. The electric companies couldn't cut you off during Covid but people couldn't pay the back bills so APS cut them off.
Imagine living in an apartment in Phoenix with no AC and no refrigerator when it is 120 degrees out. Heat-related deaths soared over the summer and the paper traced many deaths back to this, but nothing was done about it.
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People have lived in deserts for 1000's of years with no electricity. People will adapt.
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December 25th, 2022 at 2:55:52 PM permalink
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There was an article in the Arizona Republic( the state's #1 newspaper) about the tens of thousands of people in the state who had their electricity cut off. The electric companies couldn't cut you off during Covid but people couldn't pay the back bills so APS cut them off.
Imagine living in an apartment in Phoenix with no AC and no refrigerator when it is 120 degrees out. Heat-related deaths soared over the summer and the paper traced many deaths back to this, but nothing was done about it.
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People have lived in deserts for 1000's of years with no electricity. People will adapt.
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Valley of the Sun. The Kings Road, from Mexico to California goes around it, not thru it. Letters sent back to Spain made it clear that no Europeans could ever live there.
Maricopa was formed by building canals for agriculture. Even its founders expected ted it to be farmland.
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December 25th, 2022 at 3:07:45 PM permalink
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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December 25th, 2022 at 3:34:23 PM permalink
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Says a guy who hyper analyzed for months to figure out how to have his dog avoid the emotional trauma of a plane ride! Why didn’t the dog just walk cross country? It would have been good exercise for you too!
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December 25th, 2022 at 3:40:52 PM permalink
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Many people in Bisbee agree with you. There is supposed to be a reasonably large population living in abandoned mines around here, and one guy wants to convert an abandoned shaft into a hotel/nightclub. There are lots of earthbag( body bag) housing being built locally.
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December 25th, 2022 at 4:01:05 PM permalink
Forgotten technologies.

You need a bâdgir in a desert climate.

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So. UK is pretty grim right now. It feels less like a crisis and more like an existential threat.
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I only hope we are paying attention in the US and avoid some of the same mistakes. Well, I also hope things turn out OK for you in the UK as well. At one point I heard a claim extra deaths will occur in the UK resulting from high energy costs and inability of some to afford heating a home. I guess I have my doubts about that claim, but it was out there
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There was an article in the Arizona Republic( the state's #1 newspaper) about the tens of thousands of people in the state who had their electricity cut off. The electric companies couldn't cut you off during Covid but people couldn't pay the back bills so APS cut them off.
Imagine living in an apartment in Phoenix with no AC and no refrigerator when it is 120 degrees out. Heat-related deaths soared over the summer and the paper traced many deaths back to this, but nothing was done about it.
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Says a guy who hyper analyzed for months to figure out how to have his dog avoid the emotional trauma of a plane ride! Why didn’t the dog just walk cross country? It would have been good exercise for you too!
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You are right, I know I am absolutely spoiled. My only point is people say ridiculous things like "people can not live under these conditions", where history shows us that people have lived for 1000's of years under those conditions. I think the more correct statement would be "people will not be comfortable living under those conditions.".
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Says a guy who hyper analyzed for months to figure out how to have his dog avoid the emotional trauma of a plane ride! Why didn’t the dog just walk cross country? It would have been good exercise for you too!
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You are right, I know I am absolutely spoiled. My only point is people say ridiculous things like "people can not live under these conditions", where history shows us that people have lived for 1000's of years under those conditions. I think the more correct statement would be "people will not be comfortable living under those conditions.".
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Who or where are the thousands of people who lived in the desert under these conditions? Where are the ruins of their houses? Their cities? What native tribes lived in Phoenix three hundred years ago? What tribe of superhumans lived where there was no water? Why is there no trace of them?
It's only thru modern technology that it is possible to live there. Technology built the canals that diverted water hundreds of miles, and technology allowed the air to be cooled indoors and for food to be delivered to places it can't grow. The Apache wouldn't let white men settle in their mountains but allowed them to settle in the valleys where no one with any sense would live. They only tolerated them because they used them as an early ATM. Let the white men do all the work and struggle and then the Apache would take whatever they wanted.
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December 26th, 2022 at 6:03:49 AM permalink
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Says a guy who hyper analyzed for months to figure out how to have his dog avoid the emotional trauma of a plane ride! Why didn’t the dog just walk cross country? It would have been good exercise for you too!
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You are right, I know I am absolutely spoiled. My only point is people say ridiculous things like "people can not live under these conditions", where history shows us that people have lived for 1000's of years under those conditions. I think the more correct statement would be "people will not be comfortable living under those conditions.".
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Who or where are the thousands of people who lived in the desert under these conditions? Where are the ruins of their houses? Their cities? What native tribes lived in Phoenix three hundred years ago? What tribe of superhumans lived where there was no water? Why is there no trace of them?
It's only thru modern technology that it is even possible to live there.
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Look at the many deserts of the world. People have definitely lived in them. Maybe you should read up on the Sahara desert.
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December 26th, 2022 at 6:16:16 AM permalink
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People weren't living in cement cities with little green space to absorb the heat. The concrete jungle multiplies the effect. The Apache and the Navajo lived in the mountains. Even the Spaniards knew to avoid the Phoenix area.
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I agree but see no reason people can't go back to living like that. I see no reason that can't find a hill somewhere to burrow into. We are just too spoiled.
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Says a guy who hyper analyzed for months to figure out how to have his dog avoid the emotional trauma of a plane ride! Why didn’t the dog just walk cross country? It would have been good exercise for you too!
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You are right, I know I am absolutely spoiled. My only point is people say ridiculous things like "people can not live under these conditions", where history shows us that people have lived for 1000's of years under those conditions. I think the more correct statement would be "people will not be comfortable living under those conditions.".
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Who or where are the thousands of people who lived in the desert under these conditions? Where are the ruins of their houses? Their cities? What native tribes lived in Phoenix three hundred years ago? What tribe of superhumans lived where there was no water? Why is there no trace of them?
It's only thru modern technology that it is even possible to live there.
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Look at the many deserts of the world. People have definitely lived in them. Maybe you should read up on the Sahara desert.
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Sure. Give me a list of the cities in the Sahara that I should compare and contrast. Phoenix is a city of three million but I'll be happy to compare it to any of the larger cities in the Sahara.
You are also ignoring what the early explorers figured out three hundred years ago. Europeans lack skin pigmentation to thrive in certain conditions. Why do you think they imported Africans to work in the southeast instead of using their own lower class?
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Sure. Give me a list of the cities in the Sahara that I should compare and contrast. Phoenix is a city of three million but I'll be happy to compare it to any of the larger cities in the Sahara.
You are also ignoring what the early explorers figured out three hundred years ago. Europeans lack skin pigmentation to thrive in certain conditions. Why do you think they imported Africans to work in the southeast instead of using their own lower class?
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People adapt. Dig a hole in the Arizona desert and live there. After 10 or 15 generations everyone will adapt.
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December 26th, 2022 at 7:26:12 AM permalink
Go back a few thousand years and neither Arizona nor the Sahara were deserts. The Sahara was a savannah, and Arizona was best described as a sub-tropical grassland.
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Has anyone seen the movie, Coco? I was on a web search when I saw a video of Benjamin Bratt singing a song I'd never heard- Remember Me. I dug a bit deeper and found a clip of him performing it live at the Hollywood Bowl during what appeared to be a Day of the Dead concert, which led me to the movie -Coco.
It's a Disney animated movie that was surprisingly complex, with incredible visuals.
A boy raised in a household with no music aspires to be a mariachi. He dreams he is the great-great-grandson of the most famous singer ever, and through a mishap, he crosses over just as the dead prepare for their annual visits. Plot twist after twist brings you incredibly highly entertaining music followed by tear-jerking lows. It turns out it is my seven-year-old grand-nephews favorite movie, so it works for all ages.
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the incredible success of Apple

they have a store in a mall very close to me and it's a pretty big store

if the mall is completely dead - that store is still packed

if the mall is packed - they're lining up outside the store to get in

my entire life - I've never seen anything like it with any other store


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December 27th, 2022 at 1:43:44 PM permalink
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She'll fit in well in Nye County.

Have you read about the newly elected Congressman from my old district in Long Island?

He says everything will be explained in three days. Stay tuned.

This is something I believe is newsworthy and not political.
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What sort of insane electoral system puts such people in any position of authority. Even if his party had total control of the district's voting system, he'd still have to rise within his party, surely. Are there NO checks and balances?
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So far, he had admitted he didn't work on Wall Street, didn't graduate from any college, isn't a landlord, and didn't have four employees killed in the Pulse shootings. He hasn't discussed the charges that may be pending in Brazil, his phony charity and most importantly- how does a guy with a string of evictions loan himself $700,000 to run the campaign. The media is saying he violated a number of laws by filling out false financial statements.
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December 27th, 2022 at 4:15:03 PM permalink
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Has anyone seen the movie, Coco? I was on a web search when I saw a video of Benjamin Bratt singing a song I'd never heard- Remember Me. I dug a bit deeper and found a clip of him performing it live at the Hollywood Bowl during what appeared to be a Day of the Dead concert, which led me to the movie -Coco.
It's a Disney animated movie that was surprisingly complex, with incredible visuals.
A boy raised in a household with no music aspires to be a mariachi. He dreams he is the great-great-grandson of the most famous singer ever, and through a mishap, he crosses over just as the dead prepare for their annual visits. Plot twist after twist brings you incredibly highly entertaining music followed by tear-jerking lows. It turns out it is my seven-year-old grand-nephews favorite movie, so it works for all ages.
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Yes saw it and really liked it. Given the ages of my kids, I end up seeing almost every animated feature film that comes out.
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December 27th, 2022 at 4:59:38 PM permalink
Of course, MTG embraces the guy, welcoming him into the republican fold...
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December 27th, 2022 at 5:05:52 PM permalink
After the story of his grandparents fleeing nazism, he now claims he never said he was Jewish. He says he is Jew-ish, as in there is some Jewish in his background. His literature says he is a proud American Jew, although he claims to be non-observant. This is a surprise to his Parish Priest, who knew George on a first-name basis and tells of how George sought to borrow money to help pay for his mother's funeral.
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