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DRich
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October 3rd, 2014 at 8:16:14 AM permalink
I would be interested in what some of the gaming developers that used to create pinball games thought of the concept.

Did Joe Kaminkow, Larry DeMar, or Eugene Jarvis comment on it?
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Boz
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October 3rd, 2014 at 8:42:55 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Quote: Ahigh



joe bet 5000 to win 50,000 and had upset victory!



Real money, or just play?



I think you know the answer. Its a gaming show, not a licensed casino.
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October 3rd, 2014 at 9:05:12 AM permalink
But there was a contest. Free iPad to the overall high scorer.
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Zcore13
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October 3rd, 2014 at 10:12:15 AM permalink
The game is very cool. The problem is it's 25 years too late for arcades that don't really exist anymore and it's not going to fly on casino floors. I'd play it in my game room at my house, but I don't see any chance that it makes it into more than a couple casinos just as a fun thing to try.


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Ayecarumba
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October 3rd, 2014 at 11:30:27 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

The game is very cool. The problem is it's 25 years too late for arcades that don't really exist anymore and it's not going to fly on casino floors. I'd play it in my game room at my house, but I don't see any chance that it makes it into more than a couple casinos just as a fun thing to try.


ZCore13



I can see the pinball being more successful as a bonus game, like spinning the wheel on "Wheel of Fortune", rather than the the main game. I think slot managers may be more open to an installation if the coin through was more traditional (i.e., faster).

A few questions:
-- Are the cabinet and buttons moisture proof? What if someone spills a drink, or slams their fist on it (which led to the demise of many pinball machines)?
-- Can it be played sitting down? Pinball is traditionally played standing, while most video slots are played while seated.
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Ahigh
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October 3rd, 2014 at 12:00:26 PM permalink
Yeah, Joe Kaminkow won the iPad on the third day. The $55,000 bankroll was a virtual currency on a cashless card-based system that was being demonstrated with the game.

You can check the facebook page for details.

http://www.facebook.com/vegas2047
EvenBob
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October 3rd, 2014 at 12:08:56 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

The game is very cool. The problem is it's 25 years too late for arcades that don't really exist anymore and it's not going to fly on casino floors.



+10

There's a huge difference between seeing
it at a show & goofing with it, and seeing it
in a casino and sticking a hundred bucks
into it's craw. You say 25 years and I say
40 years. In 1970 there was still pinball
in different parts of the country, but it was
majorly on it's way out. In the 50's it was
at roller rinks, barber shops, supermarkets,
drug stores, diners. By the 70's it was mostly
gone.
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Ahigh
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October 3rd, 2014 at 12:55:20 PM permalink
I love reading the posts on this forum. Such a variety of individuals with specialized knowledge.

I think this failed to post properly before. I was so busy at the show I did the code wrong.



Maximum player advantage was set to 20% on the final day when Joe Kaminkow won the iPad. He played pinball very well!

I think he had an 18% player advantage on his winning game.

We will be sharing some of the details of the play later, but for now I am taking a break. I've been working very hard to have to read some of the less than positive comments.
Ahigh
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October 3rd, 2014 at 1:14:47 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I would be interested in what some of the gaming developers that used to create pinball games thought of the concept.

Did Joe Kaminkow, Larry DeMar, or Eugene Jarvis comment on it?



Joe Kaminkow said it was the "best game at the show."

So did Wade Andrews.

So did "Professionalpoker" the forum administrator for 2+2 poker forums.

Steve Ritchie, Eugene Jarvis, George Gomez, and many other Stern folks and Raw Thrills folks are all very close personal friends that I talk to often.

I will let you know what they think, but they are all very close friends of mine, and I would be very surprised if they said anything negative at all, frankly.

Steve Ritchie and Gary Stern don't generally believe in video pinball. But we solved all the technical problems with previous iterations of video pinball. Most people just don't understand these things at all, and just assume it's impossible to do what we have done. But this is absolutely the most technically accurate pinball simulator that has ever been created.
rainman
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October 3rd, 2014 at 1:25:34 PM permalink
Can this be viable in a casino? I don't know, not really my area of expertise.
What do, I know? I know I would play this in a heartbeat but not at the
high limit room level.
I know this is the damn coolest thing I have seen since bubble craps.
I know this is way outside the box and I believe this is why Ahigh was
chosen to drive the bus.
Its guys like Ahigh that make the big innovations because they think outside the box.

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