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Ahigh
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October 1st, 2014 at 9:52:06 PM permalink
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October 1st, 2014 at 10:05:32 PM permalink
After seeing the video I am even more skeptical now about this concept.

Does anyone on here that has seen it believe it is a viable concept for casinos? I would assume because of the slow speed of game play that it would have to be a minimum $5 denom.
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October 1st, 2014 at 10:25:18 PM permalink
Seeing the EV numbers might scare ploppies. With that being said holy crap this game was fun to play. I forgot I was playing a slot machine the whole time.

I wasn't too clear on the wheel spin part but I'm sure it'll make sense if I check it out more thoroughly. Great job A high!
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October 1st, 2014 at 11:44:20 PM permalink
Way too slow, it will never catch on.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 3:44:24 AM permalink
This video does not do a good job explaining the game. There are more videos to come. I have just been too busy at the show.

I'll share more information soon. This was just the only video I had available to share because it was on my iPhone. The other videos are still waiting to be uploaded and are on other devices that are not with me at the moment.

I can tell you that with the settings we are demonstrating at the show, the game earns $5 per game from $100 to $500 ($100 being the minimum bet) and that it holds 1% at $500 and above. Average game time is about 30 seconds. $100 is a SMALL minimum bet for the concept being shown: it's a high limit table game, not a slot machine.

For a game like the Wizard's games, the game held about 15% for at least one of those two games (IIRC) on average. But, as he said, he sucks at pinball. If he had turned off the effect of player skill (which he should have done) it would have saved him about 14.5% of that average cost to play as there is a 0.5% added to the house edge to completely disable the effect of pinball skill on the EV of the bet resolution.

In the specific instance shown, the game held $10,000 in a couple of minutes from an expert like the Wizard giving him a terrible house edge. If he were really trying to win (EG: if it were his money), he would have asked if I could play pinball for his bet, for which I would have gladly obliged.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 4:23:29 AM permalink
I'm going to say one thing about my skepticism too. I'm skeptical that many folks on this forum care about me and my potential for success in my career in the slightest.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 4:50:49 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

Seeing the EV numbers might scare ploppies. With that being said holy crap this game was fun to play. I forgot I was playing a slot machine the whole time.

I wasn't too clear on the wheel spin part but I'm sure it'll make sense if I check it out more thoroughly. Great job A high!



Thanks for the complement. The wheel changed on the second day and I think it's more clear. Green means win, and red means lose now.

But also, this is a new game. You need to play it for an hour to really get it. As long as you're having fun, and hour goes by pretty damn quick!
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October 2nd, 2014 at 4:52:25 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Way too slow, it will never catch on.



I thought you might like it because it was designed to have a wheel similar to roulette, and like roulette the house edge does not change with your chance to win or your potential win multiple.

You should come to the show and try it out. Buzz was there, and he said that he liked it.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 5:14:24 AM permalink
There are also a third set of buttons that do some special things:

1) In the first three seconds of the game, if you hit both of the special buttons, the skill component of the game is disabled and the game instantly ends -- this gives you a 100% chance-only gambling experience without playing pinball at all and instead simply applying the operator selected hold amount
2) After the game is completed, these special buttons present a QR code for bragging rights. If you hit the special buttons for a no-skill game, your score will show up as zero.

Maybe some folks will try these features tomorrow. I didn't tell anyone about them in the first two days as I would prefer to see people play the pinball game instead of looking for a three-second gambling experience.
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October 2nd, 2014 at 6:08:29 AM permalink
Here's some stuff showing part of the build process from our security camera system.

Fun stuff.


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