Hot Blonde Challenge
I totally agree that I should stop at some point and then have the final weigh-in be somewhat of a surprise. At what point should I stop though, you think? I had said early on that I wanted to do this but the Wizard said that it was "implied" that I blog and give weekly updates throughout this challenge. I disagreed with that saying that there was no implication, that the challenge was pretty straight-forward: that I lose 90 pounds from Jan 9th - Oct 17th without the use of diuretics or weightloss surgery. The weekly blogs I had started on my own for fun but haven't kept with it firstly cuz I was having a negative experience in the forum and secondly it really does take up a lot of my time to write, host the pictures, set the whole thing up, etc. etc.Quote: Mission146Are you going to continue to post the lbs. eery Monday, HB. I fear that there will be no drama and suspense in Vegas when you are South of 155 by Mid-September!
But back to my question, should I stop reporting when I'm 2 months before my final weigh-in? That sounds like a good enough amount of time.
And I'm wanting to get an initial list on who plans on being present at the weigh-in that day. It seems like it's kind of up in the air who's going to be there. So far I know it'll be
Wizard
Switch
and not 100% sure who else will be there. Indicate in this thread who's planning on being there so I can get an initial list going. I'm still not sure where the weigh-in is going to take place, I'm guessing it'll be my hotel room. And for those who are betting against me who won't be present, I need to figure out how they're going to get their money to me on that date if not physically present.
And P.S., this question is for the Wizard, you mentioned you have $2,400 in this challenge, who did you bet the last $400 against?
Quote: HotBlonde?I'm still not sure where the weigh-in is going to take place
http://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_on_other_planets.htm
Haha, good idea! However it would be hard to get everyone on a different planet. But it's true, the rules didn't indicate that I had to be weighed in on Earth! ;-)Quote: rxwinehttp://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_on_other_planets.htm
Quote: HotBlondeAnd P.S., this question is for the Wizard, you mentioned you have $2,400 in this challenge, who did you bet the last $400 against?
I said I have a $2,400 swing. As I understand it, I either lose $2,000 or win $400, for a $2000+$400=$2400 swing.
Oh, gotcha, sorry. I still haven't bought your book yet. I didn't know what swing meant.Quote: WizardI said I have a $2,400 swing. As I understand it, I either lose $2,000 or win $400, for a $2000+$400=$2400 swing.
Quote: weaselmanI have (and always have had) insurance, and so do a lot of people I know. Yet I have never had a different experience trying to get a specialist appointment or heard of anyone else having a different experience.
I highly doubt that the problem is lack of insurance in this case either. It's just that most of these highly compensated physicians are used to short hours and long lunches (and I don't mean it as a bad thing about those doctors. If I could make $500 in ten minutes, I would not be exactly enthusiastic about working 40 hours per week either).
You are so wrong it is laughable! These highly compensated physicians, using neurosurgeons as an example, work longer hours than you could even dream of. The two who work in my trauma center probably work between 80 and 90 hours per week. We anesthesiologists average between 50 and 55. The orthopedic surgeons probably average 60 - 70. None of us take what you in cubicles would call a lunch break. Yes, we all make by any standard a good amount of money, but its not by not working long hours.
Quote: HotBlondeSOOPOO, since you are not going to be in Vegas until the evening of October 17th, would you like us to schedule the weigh-in for that evening? Originally I had planned to weigh in early that day so that I could indulge afterwards and not have to worry about not having to eat before the weigh in. Seeing as I just went 2 days without eating it wouldn't be hard for me to stave off food that day until the evening. As well since you had a big part to do with this challenge it would only make sense that you be there, regardless of whether you and I often butt heads. What do you think?
ABSOLUTELY! You know I want to be there! How about weighing in just outside the Heart Attack Grill at 7pm, then chowing down? I can't imagine you wont look great in front of that sign!
I guess that's a side thread... where's the best big-burger in Vegas...?
BTW, what do I win?
Well, I had put that originally just cuz I thought it would be a fun idea but not sure if I want my very first meal off the challenge to be there. I just thought it would be funny and ironic to do it there. To be honest their food doesn't look all that tasty. Plus since it'll be an evening in October the sun won't be out and it won't be as good of a photo opp. I may consider it if the restaurant wanted to comp our meals in exchange for publicity but I'm guessing they won't do that.Quote: SOOPOOHow about weighing in just outside the Heart Attack Grill at 7pm, then chowing down? I can't imagine you wont look great in front of that sign!
I'm not much of a burger person anyway.
Doing an evening weigh-in would be cool too cuz I can weigh in and then we can all hang out, get something to eat, go do some karaoke and gambling, and I definitely want to hit up a club that evening! I'm not a club-type person but you better believe I'm going to buy a nice tight dress and go strut my stuff that evening!
Quote: HotBlondeI totally agree that I should stop at some point and then have the final weigh-in be somewhat of a surprise. At what point should I stop though, you think? I had said early on that I wanted to do this but the Wizard said that it was "implied" that I blog and give weekly updates throughout this challenge. I disagreed with that saying that there was no implication, that the challenge was pretty straight-forward: that I lose 90 pounds from Jan 9th - Oct 17th without the use of diuretics or weightloss surgery. The weekly blogs I had started on my own for fun but haven't kept with it firstly cuz I was having a negative experience in the forum and secondly it really does take up a lot of my time to write, host the pictures, set the whole thing up, etc. etc.
But back to my question, should I stop reporting when I'm 2 months before my final weigh-in? That sounds like a good enough amount of time.
I would stop it more at a particular weight than at a certain date. I think that cutting everyone off at your first weigh-in under 175 would probably be good. Regardless of the amount of time on the clock, I think nearly fifteen pounds is going to be the kind of number that will leave doubt in the minds of many. Further, given the situation with your back, that would also leave a question mark in terms of whether or not you'll be able to drop that 15lbs.
If there is a question of obligation, and it turns out you are obligated to make a weekly post, then I would just continue to do that even though it will probably be over by September, barring a catastrophe.
I'm not sure yet. I'll figure something out. Are you attending the weigh-in?Quote: thecesspitBTW, what do I win?
Well I have 20 pounds left so maybe I should make today my last weight announcement. 15 pounds is cutting it too close, no?Quote: Mission146I think that cutting everyone off at your first weigh-in under 175 would probably be good...
If there is a question of obligation, and it turns out you are obligated to make a weekly post, then I would just continue to do that even though it will probably be over by September, barring a catastrophe.
And like I said there is no real obligation for me to post. And I've always liked the idea of keeping people in suspense. 20 pounds left and maybe this is where I can hold off till then.
Mission, are you attending the weigh in?
Quote: SOOPOOYou are so wrong it is laughable!
These highly compensated physicians, using neurosurgeons as an example, work longer hours than you could even dream of. The two who work in my trauma center probably work between 80 and 90 hours per week. We anesthesiologists average between 50 and 55. The orthopedic surgeons probably average 60 - 70. None of us take what you in cubicles would call a lunch break. Yes, we all make by any standard a good amount of money, but its not by not working long hours.
Don't be so condescending. Just because I don't have an MD, doesn't mean, I don't know any doctors or how they work.
The surgeons may be different, I'll give you that. But as long as you don't need an operation ...
My wife wanted to get an appointment with her OB/GYN back in June. She calls the office, and the guy is on vacation. Call back ... in September. I mean, yeah, there is somebody covering for him, but that's not the point.
When I was looking for a neurologist to get help with my back problems, everybody was booked for six months in advance. Getting desperate, I called some people and found a friend of a friend who agreed to skip her lunch to see me. She told me that I could come either on Tuesday or Thursday any time between noon and 3pm. I jokingly commented "that's a long lunch ...", and she explained, that she normally goes home to have lunch with her kids who come from school around that time, and it's a 40 minutes drive, so ... And on other days she could not see me at all, because she usually takes Fridays off, and Mondays and Wednesdays she has to be at the hospital from 9 till noon, and then home with kids, and it just does not make very much sense to drive to the office after that, because of traffic.
She is a nice woman, and a knowledgeable doctor. Just does not like working very hard, for which I can't really blame her, after all, who does? The difference between her and some accountant busting her ass off every day in the office 7 to 9 is that she can afford such leisurely working. Good for her ... bad for us.
My friend's wife is a (pretty good) gastroenterologist (or what the right term is?). If you are a new patient, it will take you between 8 and 10 months to get an appointment with her (if you are still alive to need it by then). She works three days a week 10am to 3pm.
This is just a few examples that came to mind first. I could go on ... and on (I do know something about doctors and their working conditions), but you get the drift.
I am sure there are some docs out there who love what they do and get a kick out of it, or perhaps, who are greedy, and want to get all the money they can get, or want to retire and move to Costa Rica in a few years, and meanwhile are putting in some crazy hours. But of the regular folks I see in doctor's offices are just like us, well ... regular folks. They only want to work as much as it is necessary to maintain their comfortable life style. And at their current compensation levels, that is not much work at all.
Quote: 24BingoIt sounds to me like your friends have special status because of their families,
Yeah ... all my friends (as well as just acquaintances and simply people I know, and all the doctors I go to, and those that friends see, and my wife and kids ... all of them) are special. That makes a lot of sense.
Quote:and likely on call much of the time you think they're free, and my guess would be regarding the OB/GYN that "vacation" is a euphemism.
Yeah, and they also lie to me and pretend they are not working when they really are to make me jealous. That must be it, you solved the mystery!.
Quote:I know enough doctors to know that 60-80 hour workweeks are absolutely expected.
There's a lot of night and weekend demand, too
You must be talking about residents. Those folks do work a lot. But only for a few years, before they complete their residency program.
The funny thing would be if, hypothetically, we did the weigh-in there we can all weigh ourselves before and after eating there and see how much weight we've gained from their food.Quote: NareedI think I've mentioned the Heart Attack Grill has a scale outside, never mind why, with a big LED display. So even if you don't the weigh-in there, you should do a photo op with the scale's display.
Quote: HotBlondeThe funny thing would be if, hypothetically, we did the weigh-in there we can all weigh ourselves before and after eating there and see how much weight we've gained from their food.
I'm sure that's not the kind of publicity they want :)
Quote: HotBlondewe can all weigh ourselves before and after eating there and see how much weight we've gained from their food.
Or you could just weigh the food ... or ask the waiter how much it weighs. A little easier.
Not as much fun. Boy, you're a spoilsport, aren't you?Quote: weaselmanOr you could just weigh the food ... or ask the waiter how much it weighs. A little easier.
Quote: HotBlondeI'm not sure yet. I'll figure something out. Are you attending the weigh-in?
Not unless my lottery numbers come in. Far too much work to do at the moment.
BMR= body weight / 2.2 X 24
Need to lose weight - eat less calories then your BMR and workout !! Create a deficit of 500-1000 calories a day -though diet and exercise.
I.E. Weight 200 lbs/2.2 X 24 =2181 calories to maintain current weight .
Eat 1500 calories per day and burn 500 cals through exercise, that is 1181 cal deficit each day !!
You do that, your on your way to reaching your goal , no gimmicks !!
Quote: DonPedroYou do that, your on your way to reaching your goal , no gimmicks !!
If you look at HB's blog you will see that she know's that. She carefully worked out her expected wieght loss based on BMR, and an eating limit combined with what she expects to lose via exercise.
Plus I think SOOPOO deserves at least partial credit for HB's success.
Quote: HotBlondeNot as much fun. Boy, you're a spoilsport, aren't you?
No, I am just saying that that if you weigh yourself immediately after you eat, your weight will be increased by exactly the amount you just ate (and drank). This increase has nothing to do with what you gained from that food though.
Quote: buzzpaffAin't often I cancel out of a winning bet, but somethings in life are more important than money. GO GIRL GO.
Plus I think SOOPOO deserves at least partial credit for HB's success.
You are correct Buzz... HB wanting to take MY MONEY (soon to be hers) I know has been a part of her motivation!
I've scheduled overtime the week prior to the weigh in.....
It's always easy to say that when it is someone else's money. LOL
Seriously, I feel like the least I could do was lighten your burden by $90.
I would even have contributed more , except all my funds are currently tied up
in non-durables : Food, clothing, rent !
I'm not motivated by taking YOUR MONEY, but the whole amount of $6,718, so it's nothing personal. I would still like to win the $9,000 that I set out to win, however at this point, unless NicksGamingStuff jumps in, I don't think anyone else would like to bet against me since I have been really successful. I'm still trying to hit that 9G goal because that was the actual motivation for me in the first place in taking this challenge.Quote: SOOPOOYou are correct Buzz... HB wanting to take MY MONEY (soon to be hers) I know has been a part of her motivation!
So it looks like there will only be Wizard, Switch, SOOPOO, myself and possibly a couple of my own personal friends who will be coming to my weigh in since nobody else has spoken up lately. I think there were a couple other people who said that they were wanting to come through PM but I don't remember who and no one has said anything in this thread.
Has anyone heard from lucyjr.? He bet $180 against me and didn't respond to my PM about whether or not he'll be coming to the weigh in. I have a sneaking suspicion he is not planning on paying me and has been purposely avoiding my PM and this thread. He better pay!!
4:1 is what the Wizard last told me. He thinks I only have a 25% chance of winning. Would you like to bet against me? I want to hit my $9,000 goal so I still need almost $2,300 more bets against me.Quote: texasplumrCurious, what kind of odds are being offered today since everybody is so certain you're going to make it?
Quote: HotBlonde4:1 is what the Wizard last told me. He thinks I only have a 25% chance of winning. Would you like to bet against me? I want to hit my $9,000 goal so I still need almost $2,300 more bets against me.
I got a spare $100.00 I can put up against you. That should help and maybe it'll get you even more action. OK?
Ok, the bet is on! So you're putting up $100 to win $25.Quote: texasplumrI got a spare $100.00 I can put up against you. That should help and maybe it'll get you even more action. OK?
Will you be able to attend the weigh-in October 17th?
Quote: HotBlondeSo it looks like there will only be Wizard, Switch, SOOPOO, myself and possibly a couple of my own personal friends who will be coming to my weigh in since nobody else has spoken up lately.
I wish I could go. I'd try to reach my weight goal around the same time, too. Alas, that's smack in the middle of our busiest time at the office. Not that you can really tell in advance, but it would be a good bet (more's the pity).
Take lots of pictures and post them here, please. That would be the next best thing to being there I can think of.
I'm pretty sure there will be pictures taken and updates written by forum members who will attend. I've already made room and dinner reservations, I'm excited!Quote: NareedI wish I could go. I'd try to reach my weight goal around the same time, too. Alas, that's smack in the middle of our busiest time at the office. Not that you can really tell in advance, but it would be a good bet (more's the pity).
Take lots of pictures and post them here, please. That would be the next best thing to being there I can think of.
| Handle | Bet | To Win |
|---|---|---|
| Wizard | $2,000 | $400 |
| SOOPOO | $1,350 | $150 |
| Switch | $900 | $100 |
| AcesAndEights | $550 | $150 |
| Golfbuddy | $450 | $50 |
| rdw4potus | $450 | $50 |
| LarsLarson | $180 | $20 |
| lucyjr | $180 | $20 |
| Sami B. | $143 | $0 |
| texasplumr | $100 | $25 |
| ConsultantDave | $100 | $0 |
| vegas | $100 | $0 |
| FrGamble | $90 | $10 |
| sunrise089 | $90 | $10 |
| SportingGoodsMike | $90 | $10 |
| Dad | $45 | $5 |
| TOTALS: | $6,818 | $1000 |
Quote: HotBlondeOk, the bet is on! So you're putting up $100 to win $25.
Will you be able to attend the weigh-in October 17th?
I won't make the weigh in. My wife will still be rehabbing a hip replacement at that time. I'll take the Wizards word for it either way.
Quote: HotBlonde4:1 is what the Wizard last told me. He thinks I only have a 25% chance of winning. Would you like to bet against me? I want to hit my $9,000 goal so I still need almost $2,300 more bets against me.
First, 4 to 1 would imply a fair chance of 20%. Second, I said that a long time ago. The odds have certainly changed since then.
It also didn't seem to me that texasplumr confirmed the bet, unless there are some PMs I don't know about. He would be a fool to agree to those odds, as I'm sure SOOPOO would give him at least even money, assuming trust to pay was not a problem.
Quote: WizardFirst, 4 to 1 would imply a fair chance of 20%. Second, I said that a long time ago. The odds have certainly changed since then.
It also didn't seem to me that texasplumr confirmed the bet, unless there are some PMs I don't know about. He would be a fool to agree to those odds, as I'm sure SOOPOO would give him at least even money, assuming trust to pay was not a problem.
I took it but it really isn't about winning the most money for me. I'm trying to generate more action since she needs more money. Adjusting the odds might help her too. I lost a bunch of weight and keep it off so I know how hard it is. I wish her well and will help reward her if she makes it. I'll even propose another bet on her keeping it off if she wins this one. But she has to win this one first.
When I last asked you you said +300 and I asked if that meant you only thought I had a 4 in 1 chance to win and you said yes. Correct me if I'm wrong.Quote: WizardFirst, 4 to 1 would imply a fair chance of 20%. Second, I said that a long time ago. The odds have certainly changed since then.
It also didn't seem to me that texasplumr confirmed the bet, unless there are some PMs I don't know about. He would be a fool to agree to those odds, as I'm sure SOOPOO would give him at least even money, assuming trust to pay was not a problem.
And why would he make a bet with SOOPOO? The whole point of this challenge is that people are supposed to bet against ME and with ME. The only reason we made this whole thing public was to get to the $9,000 that SOOPOO would not agree to.
texasplumr and I both talked through PM and the bet is set. If you'd like to change the odds at this point looking at my back situation and lack of exercise you may reset the odds but you haven't said anything in several weeks. If the odds are to change that's fine but I would be taking bets at the new FAIR odds from now on, but that would not include texasplumr's bet against me. Please, from now on, if you feel the odds have changed then you should say something. I'm not sure why you waited until now to say something.
October 17th HotBlonde Weight Loss Challenge Weigh-In:
| Attending | Maybe Attending | Not Yet Responded | Not Attending |
|---|---|---|---|
| HotBlonde | AcesandEights | lucyjr | LarsLarson |
| Wizard | Golfbuddy | vegas | Sami B. |
| SOOPOO | SOOPOO's lady friend | sunrise089 | texasplumr |
| Switch | Jennifer** | DJTeddyBear | ConsultantDave |
| rdw4potus* | Denise** | FrGamble | SportingGoodsMike |
| Catherine** | Dad | ||
| Avery** | Mission146 | ||
| Raquel** | thecesspit | ||
| Zerina** | Nareed | ||
| buzzpaff | |||
| teddys | |||
| pacomartin |
*October 17th is his birthday so it'll be a double celebration
**Personal friends/relatives of HotBlonde
Quote: HotBlondeWhen I last asked you you said +300 and I asked if that meant you only thought I had a 4 in 1 chance to win and you said yes. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That is correct. However you made texasplumr lay 4 to 1, when if you are going by my line he should have laid 3 to 1 only.
Quote:And why would he make a bet with SOOPOO? The whole point of this challenge is that people are supposed to bet against ME and with ME. The only reason we made this whole thing public was to get to the $9,000 that SOOPOO would not agree to.
There have been other wagers not involving you. It is a free market.
October 17th HotBlonde Weight Loss Challenge Weigh-In:
| Attending | Maybe Attending | Not Yet Responded | Not Attending |
|---|---|---|---|
| HotBlonde | AcesandEights | lucyjr | LarsLarson |
| Wizard | Golfbuddy | vegas | Sami B. |
| SOOPOO | SOOPOO's lady friend | sunrise089 | texasplumr |
| Switch | Jennifer** | FrGamble | ConsultantDave |
| rdw4potus* | Denise** | Catherine** | SportingGoodsMike | Avery** | Dad | Raquel** | Mission146 | Zerina** | thecesspit | Nareed | buzzpaff | teddys | pacomartin | DJTeddyBear |
*October 17th is his birthday so it'll be a double celebration
**Personal friends/relatives of HotBlonde
