Quote: EvenBobYou still have to lose the weight after the operation.
I see many blogs that say 1-2 pounds per week even after banding.
The Hospital Angeles in Tijuana is in a good location. I am sure it is safe. They are currently offering a discount, only $5000
I am not being sarcastic.
It's bad enough for a woman to be fat, but to then face the prospect of losing a very public bet and owing eight grand because of it: well, let's just say it would be a great time to go long on Hostess Bakery stock.
Quote: pacomartinThe Hospital Angeles in Tijuana is in a good location. I am sure it is safe. They are currently offering a discount, only $5000
FYI, Angeles is a high-end chain of hospitals across Mexico. They have state-of-the-art equipment, qualified doctors and staff, and nice acomodations. There is one not two miles from my appartment.
Mexican private hospitals tend to be very good. Many of the practicing physicians either studied or did residencies in the US. They are expensive, though.
Quote: NareedQuote: pacomartinThe Hospital Angeles in Tijuana is in a good location. I am sure it is safe. They are currently offering a discount, only $5000
FYI, Angeles is a high-end chain of hospitals across Mexico. They have state-of-the-art equipment, qualified doctors and staff, and nice acomodations. There is one not two miles from my appartment.
Mexican private hospitals tend to be very good. Many of the practicing physicians either studied or did residencies in the US. They are expensive, though.
I wouldn't go there. Those that did residencies in the US did so in the hope that they would land jobs in the US. The weaker residents were unable to do so, so they went back home. The better ones stay here.
As far as the bet, HB would be disqualified if she had the surgery.
Also, HB is only on the hook for around $1000, when October 17 rolls around I'll post an exact summary.
Quote: SOOPOOI wouldn't go there. Those that did residencies in the US did so in the hope that they would land jobs in the US. The weaker residents were unable to do so, so they went back home. The better ones stay here.
No doubt you know more about what goes on in US hospitals than I do, but you don't know all about private hospitals in Mexico. Many of the doctors who did residences in the US did stay on and practiced there for a few years before returning to Mexico, for example. Others did the same in Europe and Canada. The quality of care in hospitals like Angeles, the American British Hospital (that's the official name) and a few others is as good as what you'd find in America.
Long story short -- she is at the half way point and has lost exactly half the weight required. Here is the executive summary:
Part 1: Lost a lot of weight.
Part 2: Gained some of it back.
Part 3: Lost weight from part 2.
Quote: WizardFor those who don't normally pay attention to the blogs, HB decided to post her progress here after all. Here is her latest blog entry.
Long story short -- she is at the half way point and has lost exactly half the weight required. Here is the executive summary:
Part 1: Lost a lot of weight.
Part 2: Gained some of it back.
Part 3: Lost weight from part 2.
Most amazing is that despite Part 2, HB is still on track to win the bet! This is 7 days from the last weigh in, and hopefully HB will be posting again. I think when she finally breaks the 200lb barrier that might kickstart her into even more success.
On a sad note, Casino Chip of the Day will be the second thread to reach 1000......
Quote: SOOPOOOn a sad note, Casino Chip of the Day will be the second thread to reach 1000......
Perhaps not -- there is still time for another controversy to erupt here. :-)
See, I'll even make a post here for the benefit of the thread, though I will try to stay out of the bickering, just as I have not participated in the wagers.
Quote: JohnzimboMaybe we need some controversy in the Casino Chip of the Day thread
I have begged to avoid that, right from post #1.
(Second post from me today to boost your thread, SOOPOO!)
Quote: SOOPOOMike, is HB blogging somewhere else and you transferring it to this site? I'm wondering if she cracked 200....
No. She said she was going to do that but then she did that blog entry here. If she is blogging at another site I'm not aware of it.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: WizardFor those who don't normally pay attention to the blogs, HB decided to post her progress here after all. Here is her latest blog entry.
Long story short -- she is at the half way point and has lost exactly half the weight required. Here is the executive summary:
Part 1: Lost a lot of weight.
Part 2: Gained some of it back.
Part 3: Lost weight from part 2.
Most amazing is that despite Part 2, HB is still on track to win the bet! This is 7 days from the last weigh in, and hopefully HB will be posting again. I think when she finally breaks the 200lb barrier that might kickstart her into even more success.
On a sad note, Casino Chip of the Day will be the second thread to reach 1000......
I'm not sure if "on track" is really accurate, as losing the initial weight is always easiest. When the pounds were literally flying off at the beginning of the contest, I thought she had a chance since she was getting so far ahead, but still thought it would be an uphill battle once she got down around 200 or so. With the latest developments, I don't think she'll be able to do it, since it's not a linear process. Of course, I hope she can do it, just offering my prognosticating.
that she took a little break from her diet the night the kings lost to the devils.
Probably not a good idea given the difficulty the second half always entails.
Quote: SOOPOONo update this week, and Monday is 3 days ago. Probably not a good sign.
I suspect she's avoiding the hassle... there's her update on the Kings game, but I suspect you'll get very little, not very often.
your body. Its more likely to go into storage mode and hold
onto every calorie you eat because it doesn't know whats
going on. They're called plateaus and have been the downfall
of many diets. Your body holds onto the fat for weeks and weeks
sometimes and you don't lose anything, so most people give
up. Going off the diet and bingeing was a big mistake.
Quote: thecesspitI suspect she's avoiding the hassle... there's her update on the Kings game, but I suspect you'll get very little, not very often.
I went to look at that post. She looks NOTICEABLY thinner than when she was in Vegas. I still have my HB payout cash stashed away.... just in case...
Quote: FarFromVegasI wish you well in your quest.
Hey, welcome back!
Where have you been? We missed you!
Quote: NareedHey, welcome back!
Where have you been? We missed you!
I've been, well...Far From Vegas! It's no fun reading about the fun when you can't go, so I've stayed away for a bit.
I've dropped 20 lbs over the year, so I know how hard it is to win this challenge when exercise hurts. Size 4 ain't bad when you're pushing 50 with 4 kids, but it wasn't easy!
Quote: FarFromVegasI've been, well...Far From Vegas! It's no fun reading about the fun when you can't go, so I've stayed away for a bit.
I know the feeling. I had to endure a two-year Vegas drought myself... No it's not fun.
Quote:I've dropped 20 lbs over the year, so I know how hard it is to win this challenge when exercise hurts.
Or even when it doesn't? ;)
Quote:Size 4 ain't bad when you're pushing 50 with 4 kids, but it wasn't easy!
You're going to make me turn green. I thought of a size 12 as a great achievement for me (and it sort of is). My goal is 10. I'd kill for an 8, but it's not realistic and I wouldn't kill myself over it.
Seriously, well done. Losing 20 lbs is harder than losing 60. And it can take just as long.
Explain how losing 20 is harder than losing 60......Quote: NareedSeriously, well done. Losing 20 lbs is harder than losing 60. And it can take just as long.
Quote: SOOPOOExplain how losing 20 is harder than losing 60......
If you were at 5% body fat after losing the 60
: )
1. HB should be commended for undertaking this difficult task. Especially for an obese person, it is not easy to take pictures of your self in bathing suits and post them. I know first hand because I'm a normal weight person who turned fat in his adulthood and I don't like going to go to the beach or to take my shirt off except in front of my wife
2. HB is likely undgoing a serious possibly challenge ending slump in her journey right now. At the beginning she was enthusiastic and actively posting and bloggin and challenging everyone to bet against her. But now her last blog entry was in May and she hasn't said a word on this thread. Heck I'm not sure if she will even show up for the weigh-in! Unfortunately, this type of slump, is not uncommon in the battle against obesity and was even predicted by many to happen. Hopefully, come Oct., she will do the right thing and be there in Vegas and honor her bet either way, even if he has gained it all back.
3. HB still has time to turn it around and lose all the weight she that set out to by Oct. It is definately physically possible. Mentally, however, is a whole different story. If she can find the motivation to sprint to the finish line, she can do it. The odds are stacked agianst her. If I was reading this post in the early days, I would have taken the 9:1 odds. Heck, at some time there early on were talks about HB reaching the 130s and I would have taken 10:1 odds on that! I personally know the mental challenges of losing weight having been on the roller coaster many times and I know how hard it is. But the odds against her is what motivated her to begin with. She lost some serious weight before and she can do it again. This time it's not just for the looks or the money. You can truly inspire others if you acheive your goals. People like me will say- "if she could go through the ups and downs and make it, so can I."
4. In terms of my personal assessment of HB. There are times when she has seemed quite honest, forthcoming, introspective, and even inspirational. But there are other times when I want to yell at her. I did not like the whole part where she requested a postponement of the challenge through SOOPOO (which was a questionable request to begin with) and then denied that she requested a postonement. SOOPOO has her greatest supporter at times, especially early on, and was willing to vouch for her honesty with his own money. He tried to get people to invest into the challenge and has been supportive beyond what the average person would be. Anyway, after my own in depth pschoanalysis of HB, I came to the conclusion that she is human like the rest of us with her own set of flaws and ups and downs. She has been scrutanized excessively for her flaws and during her down times, which, ironically, we all have our own set of flaws and down times.
Anway, I'm getting too philosophical here. I'll shut up now. Basically, the people who bet against HB really did not do it for the money. They did it to motivate HB and to also be part of an underdog story. After all, who doesn't want to see someone succeed against the odds (literally!)_
Quote: SOOPOOExplain how losing 20 is harder than losing 60......
Have you ever tried to lose weight?
Quote: SOOPOOExplain how losing 20 is harder than losing 60......
If its your last 20 before you're 'there', it is indeed
excruciatingly hard to lose. If you have 60 to lose,
the first 30 will be easy. The next 30 could take a
year. Your body really fights it and I have nothing
but admiration people who do it and keep it off.
I can't do it and neither can Oprah. I heard her
say once that she has all the money in the world
and eats 1200 calories a day. It was heartbreaking
for her.
Quote: SOOPOOExplain how losing 20 is harder than losing 60......
I have to agree. Losing 20 is easy, I've done it many times. I lost 70 last year. Took me 12 months and I lost 19 the first month! I never deviated from my plan and I settled in to a pound or two a week after the first month. The nice thing about slow weight loss is I have found it easier to keep it off. I got used to eating what I am eating and don't crave the crap foods that used to be my staple. But if she doesn't make it a lifestyle change and starts celebrating when she's done, she'll put it right back on. Of course, that's just my humble opinion. And according to another thread, since I don't have a degree my opinion might not count.
Quote: QuadCore
4. In terms of my personal assessment of HB. There are times when she has seemed quite honest, forthcoming, introspective, and even inspirational. But there are other times when I want to yell at her. I did not like the whole part where she requested a postponement of the challenge through SOOPOO (which was a questionable request to begin with) and then denied that she requested a postonement. SOOPOO has her greatest supporter at times, especially early on, and was willing to vouch for her honesty with his own money. He tried to get people to invest into the challenge and has been supportive beyond what the average person would be. Anyway, after my own in depth pschoanalysis of HB, I came to the conclusion that she is human like the rest of us with her own set of flaws and ups and downs. She has been scrutanized excessively for her flaws and during her down times, which, ironically, we all have our own set of flaws and down times.
Anway, I'm getting too philosophical here. I'll shut up now. Basically, the people who bet against HB really did not do it for the money. They did it to motivate HB and to also be part of an underdog story. After all, who doesn't want to see someone succeed against the odds (literally!)_
Thank you for your kind words. Some of the people who bet against HB DID do it for the money. If you read the entire thread you can figure out which did.
Despite the issues between HB and me, I am still hoping to hand her $1800 in October (my $1350 and golfingbuddy's $450).
Quote: SOOPOOThank you for your kind words. Some of the people who bet against HB DID do it for the money. If you read the entire thread you can figure out which did.
Despite the issues between HB and me, I am still hoping to hand her $1800 in October (my $1350 and golfingbuddy's $450).
A man who says he understands women, will lie about other things too !
Quote: SOOPOOSome of the people who bet against HB DID do it for the money..
Why would you make a bet, if not for the money?
Quote: slytherWhy would you make a bet, if not for the money?
For the thrill.
Quote: WizardFor those who don't normally pay attention to the blogs, HB decided to post her progress here after all. Here is her latest blog entry.
Long story short -- she is at the half way point and has lost exactly half the weight required. Here is the executive summary:
Part 1: Lost a lot of weight.
Part 2: Gained some of it back.
Part 3: Lost weight from part 2.
HB was 205.6 on May 29. She has not posted about the challenge since then. She has posted about her Kings remarkable Stanley Cup run. Knowing HB I would surmise she was not on a strict diet during those celebratory times. If she was she would certainly be below the 200 pound mark by now, 3 weeks from her last post. Hopefully the Wiz can convince her to give the gambling public an update.
Quote: slytherWhy would you make a bet, if not for the money?
I offered 100 dollars if she makes her goal. I asked for nothing in return if she does not make it. Though I have no connection to HB, I did this for encouragement and to help her succeed.
I believed right from the start she would not make her target weight but am offering support in the chance this would motivate her
Quote: vegasI offered 100 dollars if she makes her goal. I asked for nothing in return if she does not make it. Though I have no connection to HB, I did this for encouragement and to help her succeed.
I believed right from the start she would not make her target weight but am offering support in the chance this would motivate her
It seems like your $100 will be staying with you. HB's last blog post was a full 4 weeks ago and she was at 205.6. If she kept on her diet she'd assuredly be below 200, a milestone any way you look at it. I'd find it hard to believe that she would not be letting the forum know about that....
Does anyone know if any sports books have picked this up? Or if any reporters are going to be sent to cover the final weigh-in?
Quote: FleaStiffDoes anyone know if any sports books have picked this up? Or if any reporters are going to be sent to cover the final weigh-in?
I don't think anybody outside of this forum, and SOOPOO's golfing buddy, knows or cares about it.
Quote: WizardI don't think anybody outside of this forum, and SOOPOO's golfing buddy, knows or cares about it.
Minus the golfing buddy, that's true of 99% of what goes on in the forum, no?
I have every confidence in her paying off her debts IF she fails to meet the goal by the target date, but thought the lack of current information might be moving the odds on the event's expectations. Bookies usually don't care who wins, they just move the line to accommodate whatever action is out there.Quote: P90You mean betting on weight or on whether she'll pay?
Quote: NareedMinus the golfing buddy, that's true of 99% of what goes on in the forum, no?
Amen!
(Are we allowed one-word posts here? If not, this should fix that. :P )
She has abandoned the forum- isn't that enough of a hint?
Quote: MakingBookDoes anybody really think a 250 pound woman is going to show up for a weigh-in, and bring hundreds of dollars to hand out to the winners?
She has abandoned the forum- isn't that enough of a hint?
I do. She is not anonymous. She has met the Wiz multiple times. She is friends with other forum members, too. I expect her to lose the challenge and pay all those that want to be paid.
Quote: SOOPOOI do. She is not anonymous. She has met the Wiz multiple times. She is friends with other forum members, too. I expect her to lose the challenge and pay all those that want to be paid.
I'm still rooting for her to win and collect! But the only person who can make that happen is HB herself.
I think most of the wagerers would just be happy attending the nude weigh-in and will bring the champagne or sour-grapes as the case may be.Quote: MakingBookDoes anybody really think a 250 pound woman is going to show up for a weigh-in, and bring hundreds of dollars to hand out to the winners?
to go before the weigh in. If she still has 40 pounds to go and loses 2.5
pounds per week, with no backsliding, she'll just make it. Its do-able.
If she waits another 2 weeks and has 40 to lose, thats 3 pounds a week
with no backsliding. I would say doing it is marginal at best. If she
has 40 to go and hasn't started in two weeks, its lost, she can forget it.
Not backsliding is the key, and she's shown that to be not her forte.