Covid vaccine poll
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Quote: AZDuffmanExcept it did work. Not 100%. You have to use it early. It is just that big pharma and others have no use for an off patent medicine.
Come on dude! Nobody is holding back the cure. Nobody is out to get you.
Quote: MDawgI got the vaccine shot yesterday, as part of a trial. 50-50 maybe I did, maybe I got saline.
Based on lack of certain symptoms at the moment of injection / and presence of certain symptoms after and today, it would seem that I got the real thing, but who knows - maybe placebo effect or just a coincidence that I woke up with a headache and experienced the other minor side effects. I will say that if I got the real thing the symptoms are quite mild, for this particular vaccine.
I believe there is a way for me to find out if I received the real thing, by having my own antibody blood test done in a month, besides the one that the trial will conduct, but, I'm not sure if I will go that route, because I think if I have the antibody test all that independent lab will do is call me up and say I am Coronavirus positive, right?
I wrote the above almost two months ago.
I still don't know if I got the real thing or placebo. The pharmaceutical company has taken my blood once to test for antibodies, and will again shortly. The study remains blinded.
I never had my own testing done.
Quote: kewljCome on dude! Nobody is holding back the cure. Nobody is out to get you.
But there was a holdback on something that worked. Matter of record.
If the vax works out or not we will see. Just let us all make our own risk/benefit decision please.
Do you have links?Quote: kewljNo good medical reason? How about hydroxychloroquine didn't work. LOL. Hydroxychloroquine was simply a drug for other medical conditions that early on when tried for Covid, looked like it might have possible benefits. The "medical establishment" tries the repurposing of medications all the time. Sometimes they are useful in treating something else, sometimes they aren't. Hydroxychloroquine showed early promise, but fizzled with more data.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt is just that big pharma and others have no use for an off patent medicine.
I thought the exact opposite of this was true. Any seller of anything almost always would love to have their products used for a wider range of things, rather than a narrower range. Pharmaceutical sellers are no different. Wellbutrin is approved to treat depression, every time a doctor prescribes it to someone quit smoking, the maker and seller earn profits (so long as the prescription gets filled). Same with hydroxychloroquine. Every time a a doctor prescribes it to for coronavirus, "big pharma" profits. If a doctor could only prescribe a drug for what it is approved for and not off label use, "big pharma" as we know it, could not exist.
I have a friend whose wife was given Thalidomide for cancer. Have you heard of that?Quote: SOOPOOThalidomide. The 'birth defect' pill. Was approved overseas but NOT by the FDA! The US system WORKED. (At least this is what I was taught in Med School!)
I totally support your right to refuse the vaccine, and your thinking is reasonable. Frankly, as we get better and better treatments, and approach herd immunity, the 'benefit' part of the risk benefit ratio keeps shrinking for any individual. To me at present, the benefit part still far outweighs the potential risk. I know I didn't get immunity the second I got the shot, but I had a 'free' feeling once I did. Unfortunately my wife does not qualify yet, so it is only half a victory....
Quote: petroglyphDo you have links?
https://www.recoverytrial.net/news/statement-from-the-chief-investigators-of-the-randomised-evaluation-of-covid-19-therapy-recovery-trial-on-hydroxychloroquine-5-june-2020-no-clinical-benefit-from-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-in-hospitalised-patients-with-covid-19
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/insane-many-scientists-lament-trump-s-embrace-risky-malaria-drugs-coronavirus
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53575964
Quote: TomGI thought the exact opposite of this was true. Any seller of anything almost always would love to have their products used for a wider range of things, rather than a narrower range. Pharmaceutical sellers are no different. Wellbutrin is approved to treat depression, every time a doctor prescribes it to someone quit smoking, the maker and seller earn profits (so long as the prescription gets filled). Same with hydroxychloroquine. Every time a a doctor prescribes it to for coronavirus, "big pharma" profits. If a doctor could only prescribe a drug for what it is approved for and not off label use, "big pharma" as we know it, could not exist.
What you are missing is there is little profit in a 70 year old off patent pill. Big Pharma wants to sell what has the high markup.
Quote: AZDuffman
If the vax works out or not we will see. Just let us all make our own risk/benefit decision please.
OF COURSE, everyone can and should make their own decision.
But unfortunately your decision effects me and others. If 50% think and choose as you do, the 50% getting the vaccine is useless. You probably need 75% to stop this virus. The vaccine is our way out, our way back to normalcy, so I am just hoping enough people get it right. :)
Quote: kewljThe vaccine is our way out, our way back to normalcy, so I am just hoping enough people get it right. :)
I’m pro mask and vaccine BUT, normalcy is never really coming back in the same way that privacy never really came back post 9-11.
