DRich
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November 22nd, 2020 at 1:20:54 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

If the choice is staying open with smoking ban and restaurants and bars closed, vs closing casinos entirely, they will accept the smoking ban short term.



That is my thought also. I am not saying that he will do that, but it would be the right way to go.
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November 22nd, 2020 at 5:53:05 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

If the choice is staying open with smoking ban and restaurants and bars closed, vs closing casinos entirely, they will accept the smoking ban short term.


The Seneca casinos in Western New York have been open since July 1 with no smoking and no alcohol being served.
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November 22nd, 2020 at 7:03:23 PM permalink
As expected, some melee mouth “new” restrictions that mean nothing and do nothing but destroy small business. The 25% will have no effect on the casino resort industry.

Now we need to make reservations to go eat at fast food restaurants. Brilliant, Governor, brilliant.
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November 22nd, 2020 at 7:41:20 PM permalink
Don’t worry, you can still have your mask off as long as you have a pack of smokes out.
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November 22nd, 2020 at 8:29:55 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

The 25% will have no effect on the casino resort industry.

Now we need to make reservations to go eat at fast food restaurants. Brilliant, Governor, brilliant.



I like it, now even less people in the Bingo room!
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November 22nd, 2020 at 9:42:59 PM permalink
Nevada: Casinos face 25% capacity restrictions over next three weeks to bring down COVID numbers
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/nevada-casinos-face-25-capacity-restrictions-over-next-three-weeks-to-bring-down-covid-numbers/

Updated: Strip casinos Mandalay Bay, The Mirage to close mid-week hotel operations through December
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/las-vegas-mandalay-bay-the-mirage-to-close-mid-week-hotel-operations-through-december/

Nevada: Nonprofit sends letter to Gov. Sisolak urging casinos to go smoke-free to prevent shutdown\
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/nevada-nonprofit-sends-letter-to-gov-sisolak-urging-casinos-to-go-smoke-free-to-prevent-shutdown/

Illinois casino operator on COVID-19 closure: ‘We do not have an anticipated reopening date’
https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/illinois-casino-operator-on-covid-19-closure-we-do-not-have-an-anticipated-reopening-date/
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November 23rd, 2020 at 12:05:16 AM permalink
They never really defined what 25% capacity actually means. My guess is this is ambiguous and amounts to nothing more than a casino “rearranging the deck chairs” to satisfy some 25% capacity number that they may not even be hitting since they re-opened.

No reporter has the cojones to ask this Governor how his mask edict fits into the idea of allowing people to remove it to smoke indoors, in the casino. Nice attempt on the non profit to urge no smoking. My guess is he tears it up without looking at it.
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November 23rd, 2020 at 12:15:53 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

They never really defined what 25% capacity actually means.



Every building as part of the fire code is told what the maximum capacity is. So it is defined.
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November 23rd, 2020 at 12:38:49 AM permalink
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Every building as part of the fire code is told what the maximum capacity is. So it is defined.


“Every building”...? I’ve seen capacity limit signs for the casino. Does that number also include hotel guests? Does it include those in the restaurants with separate entrances? The movie theaters? The bowling complex? These are all under one building. So when I see a sign that shows capacity....is this merely the amount of people that can be on the casino floor or is it inclusive of all aspects of the “building”.
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November 23rd, 2020 at 3:46:56 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

“Every building”...? I’ve seen capacity limit signs for the casino. Does that number also include hotel guests? Does it include those in the restaurants with separate entrances? The movie theaters? The bowling complex? These are all under one building. So when I see a sign that shows capacity....is this merely the amount of people that can be on the casino floor or is it inclusive of all aspects of the “building”.



Any sign I have seen are those fire department signs and I would imagine they mean the public room. IOW, the bowling alley will have a capacity as will each restaurant, etc.
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November 23rd, 2020 at 3:47:26 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Don’t worry, you can still have your mask off as long as you have a pack of smokes out.



Time to start smoking!
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November 24th, 2020 at 5:03:22 PM permalink
I heard the new virus rules in Nevada are 25% casino capacity
How do they judge?
I just walked into the Riverside Casino in Laughlin 30 min ago
The entrance I walked in, nobody.
Just walked in
Grocery stores are more secure with generally somebody checking for masks
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November 24th, 2020 at 5:41:08 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I heard the new virus rules in Nevada are 25% casino capacity
How do they judge?
I just walked into the Riverside Casino in Laughlin 30 min ago
The entrance I walked in, nobody.
Just walked in
Grocery stores are more secure with generally somebody checking for masks


I honestly think these edicts are just “feel good” words that offer no logical way to enforce. The locals casinos in Vegas have multiple entrances, bowling alleys attached, restaurants with exterior entrances emptying onto casino floor, hotel lobby’s on the casino floor, theaters, etc, etc.

If you see someone actually counting....I’d be amazed.

Grocery stores have gone to one entrance in, one entrance out. They have some means and method of counting.
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November 24th, 2020 at 7:47:36 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

I honestly think these edicts are just “feel good” words that offer no logical way to enforce. The locals casinos in Vegas have multiple entrances, bowling alleys attached, restaurants with exterior entrances emptying onto casino floor, hotel lobby’s on the casino floor, theaters, etc, etc.

If you see someone actually counting....I’d be amazed.

Grocery stores have gone to one entrance in, one entrance out. They have some means and method of counting.


I was a little concerned moving to NV for a week or longer due to new virus restrictions
Walked around the Riverside and the Aquarius in Laughlin.
Except for masks, seems business as usual.
Lots of food options :-)
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November 25th, 2020 at 6:49:59 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

I honestly think these edicts are just “feel good” words that offer no logical way to enforce. The locals casinos in Vegas have multiple entrances, bowling alleys attached, restaurants with exterior entrances emptying onto casino floor, hotel lobby’s on the casino floor, theaters, etc, etc.

If you see someone actually counting....I’d be amazed.

Grocery stores have gone to one entrance in, one entrance out. They have some means and method of counting.



Casinos here in MN/WI/IA have also gone to one entrance here, one out. (two, I guess, if you count the hall from the hotel, which is also now manned.) Even the very large properties like Mystic Lake and the architecturally complex properties like Grand Hinckley and Treasure Island are down to one entrance. That means that only a portion of the parking lot(s) makes any sense to use, which probably has at least a small deterring effect with respect to the capacity limits. Like, at Grand, it'd be a 10ish minute walk from the south parking lot to the west-facing door that is open. If I couldn't park in the west lot, I'd at least consider visiting Black Bear or St. Croix Danbury instead of parking on the "wrong" side of Grand. In each case, there is a temperature check at the door along with a security guard handing out masks and tracking the entries/exits to track occupancy. I don't know how they track the net-count between the parking lot door and the door leading to the hotel.

I'm sure all of that is harder in Vegas. How do Bally's and Paris handle their shared retail space? Same with Wynncore, Venetian, etc. Plus there are the places where entrances don't actually have working doors at all, like downtown. I guess I did assume that the locals casinos that are open were doing things the same way as the similarly sized casinos here in the midwest. But maybe that's not the case - maybe that would put them at even more of a disadvantage over the strip and downtown.
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