Quote: gordonm888Roberta's Flack big song "Killing Me Softly (With Your Song)" wAs once voted as the best song of all time, #1 , by one of those groups that does such listings. She did a tremendous job on the vocals of that song.
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Until yesterday, I thought Carly Simon was the original artist of that song.
Quote: WizardQuote: gordonm888Roberta's Flack big song "Killing Me Softly (With Your Song)" wAs once voted as the best song of all time, #1 , by one of those groups that does such listings. She did a tremendous job on the vocals of that song.
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Until yesterday, I thought Carly Simon was the original artist of that song.
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Sounds a little like Carly. But I was surprised it wasn't a Bacharach song. All those catchy, popular songs from the 60s and early 70s, you might have heard them on your parents' or grandparents' radio and still remember them, half of them were written by a guy we only actually heard in a commercial for Martini & Rossi with Angie Dickinson.

Quote: darkozWe will need to wait for coroner report but she recently had a liver transplant. The medical theory for now is her body may have rejected the new liver.
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39 is kind of young for a new liver. I hope it wasn't due to Hollywood excess but an inherited or unavoidable infection.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: darkozWe will need to wait for coroner report but she recently had a liver transplant. The medical theory for now is her body may have rejected the new liver.
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39 is kind of young for a new liver. I hope it wasn't due to Hollywood excess but an inherited or unavoidable infection.
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That can be a result of hepatitis C, which is transmitted by some behaviors associated with Hollywood. Particularly West Hollywood.
No answers yet but sounds like carbon monoxide.
Quote: darkozWe will need to wait for coroner report but she recently had a liver transplant. The medical theory for now is her body may have rejected the new liver.
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That's how Shelby from Steel Magnolias died. Her Mother donated her kidney to her and her body rejected her Mother's kidney and Shelby fell into a coma and Shelby's Husband signed the paperwork to take Shelby off of life support after Shelby's doctors and nurses told Shelby's family she was permanently brain dead. Shelby was only about 22 and had a Son who was only about a year and a half old. At least Michelle was about 17 years older than Shelby and didn't have any offspring.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyGene Hackman found dead at home, along with wife and dog.
No answers yet but sounds like carbon monoxide.
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I can't even think of a movie Gene Hackman was bad in. He was one of those actors who was good even if the movie wasn't that great.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyGene Hackman found dead at home, along with wife and dog.
No answers yet but sounds like carbon monoxide.
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Wow, I know who that is (Coach Dale). I rarely know the celebrities mentioned in this thread
Quote: rxwineQuote: AutomaticMonkeyGene Hackman found dead at home, along with wife and dog.
No answers yet but sounds like carbon monoxide.
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I can't even think of a movie Gene Hackman was bad in. He was one of those actors who was good even if the movie wasn't that great.
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One of my favorite scenes from Mississippi Burning.
Quote: gordonm888Gene Hackman didn't have movie star looks, but wow, was he a good actor. I agree with a previous post - he was outstanding in every role in every movie.
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Funny you say that, for YEARS I thought he was Frank Lopez in Scarface and thought "WOW, Gene is really laying on the Cuban accent and got a great tan to commit to this role!"
Then I found out it was Tom Hanks' boss in BIG and was dumbfounded!
Anyway, hope this was just an accident and not something crazy like Jon Voight and his NSA crew finishing the job they started in 1998!
Quote: gordonm888Gene Hackman didn't have movie star looks, but wow, was he a good actor. I agree with a previous post - he was outstanding in every role in every movie.
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By coincidence, I recently have been obsessing over a deleted scene in Superman II in which Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) grovels to Superman for a partnership rather than get hauled away by the U.S. Arctic Patrol. It's a scene that definitely did not belong in the theatrical release but was included in television broadcasts to lengthen the runtime.
In that deleted scene you see the three baddies get arrested and taken away, rather than what I've assumed all these years: that they fell to their deaths.
Quote: rxwineNow they're saying Hackman's death is suspicious.
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Isn't Gene Hackman's cause of death carbon monoxide? 💡 Carbon Monoxide is the cause of death for many deaths. 💡 Especially in the colder weather like February when people are using heat items to warm up like heaters. 💡
Quote: NathanQuote: rxwineNow they're saying Hackman's death is suspicious.
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Isn't Gene Hackman's cause of death carbon monoxide? 💡 Carbon Monoxide is the cause of death for many deaths. 💡 Especially in the colder weather like February when people are using heat items to warm up like heaters. 💡
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The news reports I've seen said that they were unable to confirm carbon monoxide or natural gas at this time.
I'm just some guy making guesses on the internet, but it doesn't sound like carbon monoxide to me.
Quote: DieterQuote: NathanQuote: rxwineNow they're saying Hackman's death is suspicious.
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Isn't Gene Hackman's cause of death carbon monoxide? 💡 Carbon Monoxide is the cause of death for many deaths. 💡 Especially in the colder weather like February when people are using heat items to warm up like heaters. 💡
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The news reports I've seen said that they were unable to confirm carbon monoxide or natural gas at this time.
I'm just some guy making guesses on the internet, but it doesn't sound like carbon monoxide to me.
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Hmm. MINUTES after Gene's death was reported, I saw a news report saying he died from carbon monoxide. 💡 Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be a Murder Suicide like what happened when Chris Benoit Murdered his Wife, their Son, and then committed Suicide. ☣️
Quote: NathanQuote: DieterQuote: NathanQuote: rxwineNow they're saying Hackman's death is suspicious.
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Isn't Gene Hackman's cause of death carbon monoxide? 💡 Carbon Monoxide is the cause of death for many deaths. 💡 Especially in the colder weather like February when people are using heat items to warm up like heaters. 💡
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The news reports I've seen said that they were unable to confirm carbon monoxide or natural gas at this time.
I'm just some guy making guesses on the internet, but it doesn't sound like carbon monoxide to me.
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Hmm. MINUTES after Gene's death was reported, I saw a news report saying he died from carbon monoxide. 💡 Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be a Murder Suicide like what happened when Chris Benoit Murdered his Wife, their Son, and then committed Suicide. ☣️
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Wife could have been looking for medication for a bad headache. Which might point to gas poisoning. They said, they've been dead for a while so gas might have completely cleared by the time they were found. Seems strange she would spill medication on the floor, unless she was trying to take more, thinking she hadn't taken enough to kill herself.
All kinds of possible scenarios until they rule out most of it or find the cause.
Update: they had 3 dogs, only 1 dead.
Quote: NathanQuote: DieterQuote: NathanQuote: rxwineNow they're saying Hackman's death is suspicious.
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Isn't Gene Hackman's cause of death carbon monoxide? 💡 Carbon Monoxide is the cause of death for many deaths. 💡 Especially in the colder weather like February when people are using heat items to warm up like heaters. 💡
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The news reports I've seen said that they were unable to confirm carbon monoxide or natural gas at this time.
I'm just some guy making guesses on the internet, but it doesn't sound like carbon monoxide to me.
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Hmm. MINUTES after Gene's death was reported, I saw a news report saying he died from carbon monoxide. 💡 Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be a Murder Suicide like what happened when Chris Benoit Murdered his Wife, their Son, and then committed Suicide. ☣️
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Hopefully we'll know more in a few weeks when the investigation report is complete.
And now he's cold cold cold...
https://abc13.com/post/david-buster-poindexter-johansen-singer-punk-band-new-york-dolls-dies-75/15966487/
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyDavid Johansen / Buster Poindexter
And now he's cold cold cold...
https://abc13.com/post/david-buster-poindexter-johansen-singer-punk-band-new-york-dolls-dies-75/15966487/
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In 1973, the NY Dolls played a Homecoming concert for my high school. I'd never heard of them, but the Seniors obviously thought they were putting something over on the facility. From what I was told, the band arrived dressed normally but switched into drag in the locker room. It was a Catholic school and the Brother in charge wouldn't let them on stage. When it turned out they had been paid in advance they were finally allowed to play two or three songs before it was shut down. Johnny Thunders was swigging vodka from a bottle and offering us swigs. Johansen was hitting on every hs girl in sight.
Years later, Buster Poindexter played a club I worked in, and I brought up the show. He didn't remember it but said Thunders was most likely drinking water and just being a dick.
I know that Johansen took many musicians under his wing and went out of his way to promote charity events he believed in.
Rest in Peace, My Brother.
Quote: gordonm888Carbon Monoxide ruled out in death of Hackman and Arakawa and their dog. V mysterious.
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This is VERY alarming and suspicious. On top of this, my local news source that it was Gene's SISTER who said she THOUGHT that the cause of Gene and Gene's Wife's death was Carbon Monoxide. The day of Gene and his Wife's deaths, Carbon Monoxide was IMMEDIATELY said to be the cause of their death. It being revealed that Gene's Sister SAID she thought the cause of Gene and his Wife's deaths death was Carbon Monoxide raised red flags. I wonder if Gene's SISTER murdered him and his Wife for Insurance money. ☣️😵💫
Quote: NathanQuote: gordonm888Carbon Monoxide ruled out in death of Hackman and Arakawa and their dog. V mysterious.
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This is VERY alarming and suspicious. On top of this, my local news source that it was Gene's SISTER who said she THOUGHT that the cause of Gene and Gene's Wife's death was Carbon Monoxide. The day of Gene and his Wife's deaths, Carbon Monoxide was IMMEDIATELY said to be the cause of their death. It being revealed that Gene's Sister SAID she thought the cause of Gene and his Wife's deaths death was Carbon Monoxide raised red flags. I wonder if Gene's SISTER murdered him and his Wife for Insurance money. ☣️😵💫
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The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,).
Anyway I read her interview and she says she "understood" the cause might be carbon monoxide so it sounded to me she was relaying what she heard.
This high profile a case a lot of people will express their thoughts. Let the authorities figure it out.
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: gordonm888Carbon Monoxide ruled out in death of Hackman and Arakawa and their dog. V mysterious.
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This is VERY alarming and suspicious. On top of this, my local news source that it was Gene's SISTER who said she THOUGHT that the cause of Gene and Gene's Wife's death was Carbon Monoxide. The day of Gene and his Wife's deaths, Carbon Monoxide was IMMEDIATELY said to be the cause of their death. It being revealed that Gene's Sister SAID she thought the cause of Gene and his Wife's deaths death was Carbon Monoxide raised red flags. I wonder if Gene's SISTER murdered him and his Wife for Insurance money. ☣️😵💫
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The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,).
Anyway I read her interview and she says she "understood" the cause might be carbon monoxide so it sounded to me she was relaying what she heard.
This high profile a case a lot of people will express their thoughts. Let the authorities figure it out.
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Speaking of Authorities QUICKLY finding out when "grieving," People are ACTUALLY the Murderers, a guy Murdered his Mother, Father, and Sister in a house fire for insurance money and was told they died. He went on the news saying something like,"Buh, buh, buh, buh," trying to SOUND like he was REALLY sad his Family died in the house fire, but came across as VERY fake. He was arrested and charged with triple Murder and intentional Arson like two days later. This isn't say 1930 where he could have EASILY gotten away with this. We are lucky to live in the 21st Century and not roughly 95 years ago. 💡
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The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,).
Anyway I read her interview and she says she "understood" the cause might be carbon monoxide so it sounded to me she was relaying what she heard.
This high profile a case a lot of people will express their thoughts. Let the authorities figure it out.
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My first suspicion would be CO also if I showed up on a scene with two dead people and a dead dog with no visible signs of trauma.
Quote: DRichQuote: darkoz
The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,).
Anyway I read her interview and she says she "understood" the cause might be carbon monoxide so it sounded to me she was relaying what she heard.
This high profile a case a lot of people will express their thoughts. Let the authorities figure it out.
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My first suspicion would be CO also if I showed up on a scene with two dead people and a dead dog with no visible signs of trauma.
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I keep reading the dog was in a closet. I fear the dog starved to death. Awful.
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: gordonm888Carbon Monoxide ruled out in death of Hackman and Arakawa and their dog. V mysterious.
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This is VERY alarming and suspicious. On top of this, my local news source that it was Gene's SISTER who said she THOUGHT that the cause of Gene and Gene's Wife's death was Carbon Monoxide. The day of Gene and his Wife's deaths, Carbon Monoxide was IMMEDIATELY said to be the cause of their death. It being revealed that Gene's Sister SAID she thought the cause of Gene and his Wife's deaths death was Carbon Monoxide raised red flags. I wonder if Gene's SISTER murdered him and his Wife for Insurance money. ☣️😵💫
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The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,)....
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The trick to deceiving police is not to give them false information, but to cause them to find false information on their own, and then let cop ego defend the falseness because it makes the cop feel like a genius in front of his friends. That's what led him to be a detective to begin with, he wants to be Ellery Queen. So let him.
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The trick to deceiving police is not to give them false information, but to cause them to find false information on their own, and then let cop ego defend the falseness because it makes the cop feel like a genius in front of his friends. That's what led him to be a detective to begin with, he wants to be Ellery Queen. So let him.
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkey
The trick to deceiving police is not to give them false information, but to cause them to find false information on their own, and then let cop ego defend the falseness because it makes the cop feel like a genius in front of his friends. That's what led him to be a detective to begin with, he wants to be Ellery Queen. So let him.
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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If you called a cop Ellery Queen he probably would take offence for calling him a homosexual
Quote: darkozQuote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkey
The trick to deceiving police is not to give them false information, but to cause them to find false information on their own, and then let cop ego defend the falseness because it makes the cop feel like a genius in front of his friends. That's what led him to be a detective to begin with, he wants to be Ellery Queen. So let him.
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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If you called a cop Ellery Queen he probably would take offence for calling him a homosexual
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I don't know, these days that might get him a promotion.
Quote: unJonQuote: DRichQuote: darkoz
The days of Agatha Christie whodunnit murders are over.
90 years ago a family member trying to throw authorities off the track with "look over here" comments made sense. Today such a ridiculous tactic would be uncovered within (hmm about two days just like has already passed,).
Anyway I read her interview and she says she "understood" the cause might be carbon monoxide so it sounded to me she was relaying what she heard.
This high profile a case a lot of people will express their thoughts. Let the authorities figure it out.
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My first suspicion would be CO also if I showed up on a scene with two dead people and a dead dog with no visible signs of trauma.
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I keep reading the dog was in a closet. I fear the dog starved to death. Awful.
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Most dogs can't go 48 hours without water.
The other dogs evidently were loose and able to scavage food and water, thus no Marie Proverst ending.
Quote: DRichQuote: AutomaticMonkey
The trick to deceiving police is not to give them false information, but to cause them to find false information on their own, and then let cop ego defend the falseness because it makes the cop feel like a genius in front of his friends. That's what led him to be a detective to begin with, he wants to be Ellery Queen. So let him.
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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Cops generally are not the smartest people you'll ever meet. People think they're like the cops on TV and they're not. Good police work usually means they had a snitch and somebody did 90% of their work for them. Cops have no incentive to do much real work, that's why so many of them are morbidly obese now. I watch a lot of cop videos on YouTube and the number of fat cops out there is truly incredible. Some of them are circus weight. They are not Columbo and Danny Reagan when it comes to solving crimes. They do as little as possible and cram donuts down their pie holes whenever possible.
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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One of the prompts on The Match Game was "[blank] Queen." The desired response was "Celery Queen," but only a couple people on the 1970s panel got it. (I recall Marcia Wallace was one of them.)
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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One of the prompts on The Match Game was "[blank] Queen." The desired response was "Celery Queen," but only a couple people on the 1970s panel got it. (I recall Marcia Wallace was one of them.)
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Was Ellery Queen ever a cop? Wasn't he a mystery writer who often showed the cops up?
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I doubt very many cops even know who Ellery Queen was.
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One of the prompts on The Match Game was "[blank] Queen." The desired response was "Celery Queen," but only a couple people on the 1970s panel got it. (I recall Marcia Wallace was one of them.)
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Was Ellery Queen ever a cop? Wasn't he a mystery writer who often showed the cops up?
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Unusually, Ellery Queen was the authorial pseudonym of the two writers that co-wrote the detective novels and stories, which also starred the fictional sleuth named Ellery Queen. So, yeah, its confusing.
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Was Ellery Queen ever a cop? Wasn't he a mystery writer who often showed the cops up?
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He was different things. First he was just a pen name for some mystery writers, then they hired the name out so that anyone could pay a royalty and publish their story as "Ellery Queen." Then he became a character in his own right, and he was the annoying son of a police detective in those stories.
As a character he was kind of touchy and eccentric. I think he was the inspiration for Klugman's "Quincy, M.E." character, who was also an eccentric bachelor who solves murders.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryan
Was Ellery Queen ever a cop? Wasn't he a mystery writer who often showed the cops up?
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He was different things. First he was just a pen name for some mystery writers, then they hired the name out so that anyone could pay a royalty and publish their story as "Ellery Queen." Then he became a character in his own right, and he was the annoying son of a police detective in those stories.
As a character he was kind of touchy and eccentric. I think he was the inspiration for Klugman's "Quincy, M.E." character, who was also an eccentric bachelor who solves murders.
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Speaking of a Son of a Police Detective, Encyclopedia Brown was the Police Detective's 10 year old Son in the Encyclopedia Brown Series and was the one who REALLY solved the town's mysteries. 🤣 Notable Characters are drop out Willie who was a 17 year old Scammer who got little kids to give them their money so he could "invest," it for them, but what he REALLY did was steal their money, not too far off from what is happening TODAY and Encyclopedia Brown Series was written in around 1970! ☣️🤐 Sally was Encyclopedia Brown's Best Friend and JUST his Friend. Donald Sobol, the Writer didn't have them have any romantic feelings towards each other. 💡😉 Sally was a tough Tomboy. 🤣🤭
Dolly Parton husband.
Stayed pretty much invisible.
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Speaking of a Son of a Police Detective, Encyclopedia Brown was the Police Detective's 10 year old Son in the Encyclopedia Brown Series and was the one who REALLY solved the town's mysteries. 🤣 Notable Characters are drop out Willie who was a 17 year old Scammer who got little kids to give them their money so he could "invest," it for them, but what he REALLY did was steal their money, not too far off from what is happening TODAY and Encyclopedia Brown Series was written in around 1970! ☣️🤐 Sally was Encyclopedia Brown's Best Friend and JUST his Friend. Donald Sobol, the Writer didn't have them have any romantic feelings towards each other. 💡😉 Sally was a tough Tomboy. 🤣🤭
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I am absolutely shocked!! I would have never guessed that Nathan and I had anything in common. I read Encyclopedia Brown as a child.
Quote: JohnzimboThe only Encyclopedia Brown story I can recall was one where a scammer painted a brick with gold paint and claimed it was solid gold. EB knew it was a scam when the scammer kid raised it above his head with one hand
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Yep, drop out Willie the Scammer. 💡😀😉🤭
There, covered all the bases.
Pills were found scattered near the wife.
Being Gene was 95 and frail as seen two weeks before his death it was probably his wife beating him which maybe led to him dying from heart failure.
The dog came to his rescue but was confused as they both were his master. The wife locked the dog in the closet where it died later
The wife took pills as a suicide after what happened
That's a theory of mine based on the limited evidence and may be completely off base.
Quote: darkozI'm going to hazard a guess then that it was domestic abuse
Pills were found scattered near the wife.
Being Gene was 95 and frail as seen two weeks before his death it was probably his wife beating him which maybe led to him dying from heart failure.
The dog came to his rescue but was confused as they both were his master. The wife locked the dog in the closet where it died later
The wife took pills as a suicide after what happened
That's a theory of mine based on the limited evidence and may be completely off base.
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Without any evidence, you decide to accuse his wife of domestic abuse. That is pathetic, although not surprising.
(one of the few things I've garnered from crime solving shows, is attempts to make things look like an accident but then then the scene doesn't match the pattern of the way someone was positioned at the time)
Of course, to me, pill position sounds like dice control. Can you really narrow it down, unless it's really obvious something is wrong.
Quote: billryanQuote: darkozI'm going to hazard a guess then that it was domestic abuse
Pills were found scattered near the wife.
Being Gene was 95 and frail as seen two weeks before his death it was probably his wife beating him which maybe led to him dying from heart failure.
The dog came to his rescue but was confused as they both were his master. The wife locked the dog in the closet where it died later
The wife took pills as a suicide after what happened
That's a theory of mine based on the limited evidence and may be completely off base.
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Without any evidence, you decide to accuse his wife of domestic abuse. That is pathetic, although not surprising.
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Why is it pathetic and why is it not surprising?