Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: RonCI read up on this a bit after someone declared it as fact. The statements that some Dems involved made at the time seemed to stop shy of saying the knew he lied some "thought that he may have lied"...While I am sure Schiff is happy to get the information to the prosecutor, gloating may not be in order quite yet.
How would Congress know for sure he lied? They didn't have what Mueller has, and Mueller didn't have.what they had..Until today. So I don't see any Congress person of any persuasion saying on camera anything for sure. And Mueller doesn't indict on rumors and heresay. But those are out there, and there does seem to be something to them.
It will be nice for all the facts to be centralized so things can either be dispelled or confirmed.
Quote: EvenBobSpeaking of Mueller, Rush said something
interesting yesterday. He's heard from so
many inside sources that Mueller long ago
turned over the investigation to Weisman,
that he's starting to believe it. After Mueller
realized there was no 'there' there, he got
bored and handed off the ball.
It wasn't a story Rush did, it was just an
interesting aside at the end of a segment.
But for Rush to even mention it means
there's probably a lot of the truth there.
Rumor, innuendo, and spin. That's what Rush offers. Facts are few and far between with him.
I'll wait for Mueller's report.
Quote: ams288Because Don Jr. lied to Congress, and the GOP refused to send the transcripts of his testimony to Mueller. Today that changed. Thanks, Dems.
He should have just did what HRC did and pretend not to know anything about anything
Quote: beachbumbabsRumor, innuendo, and spin. That's what Rush offers.
Actually, no. Having listened to him
since 89, he's very careful in what
he says. Think the opposite of CNN/MS.
He can be wrong occasionally, but the
times he's right are overwhelming. It's
why we listen. Who wants to tune in to
constant wrong info. Besides CNN/MS
viewers, that is.
What's striking is, nobody ever listens
to Rush every day for a month and says
he's full of crap. They have the opposite
reaction. This is why he terrifies the Left.
Quote: aceofspadesHe should have just did what HRC did and pretend not to know anything about anything
She testified before congress and told the truth
She isn't as stupid as Donald Jr who probably lied
1000 pages.
Quote: jackmagic777Hillary told the truth is the joke of the day. LOL
You win the internet.
Quote: jackmagic777Hillary told the truth is the joke of the day. LOL
Are you promoting fake news or do you have proof she lied to congress?
If she lied, republicans would be on her like white on rice charging her with breaking the law
This is a Vegas board
I'm betting on jackmagic777 pushing fake news
Cmon jack, how about posting some facts for once
Quote: EvenBobActually, no. Having listened to him
since 89, he's very careful in what
he says. Think the opposite of CNN/MS.
He can be wrong occasionally, but the
times he's right are overwhelming. It's
why we listen. Who wants to tune in to
constant wrong info. Besides CNN/MS
viewers, that is.
What's striking is, nobody ever listens
to Rush every day for a month and says
he's full of crap. They have the opposite
reaction. This is why he terrifies the Left.
I watch CNN. I kinda have this thing about getting my news from people that aren't addicted to drugs.
Quote: SteverinosI watch CNN. I kinda have this thing about getting my news from people that aren't addicted to drugs.
I get my news from the internet
https://news.google.com
I've listened to Rush, he's full of crap
It doesn't happen often, but I agree with EvenBob.Quote: EvenBobImagine how this played across America.
The Dem women in white applauding
and going nuts after Trump said something.
Big mistake on their part.
It's like they were being robbed at gunpoint and when they opened their purses, they found a winning lottery ticket and started whooping and cheering. There's a few words I could use to describe those Democrat Ladies, but I'd have to ban myself. Henceforth, to be called a 'New female Democrat member of congress' will be considered a strong personal insult $;o)
Quote: SteverinosYou win the internet.
How many decades from now will it be when people stop bringing her up? It's just over and over.
Quote: OnceDearIt doesn't happen often, but I agree with EvenBob.Quote: EvenBobImagine how this played across America.
The Dem women in white applauding
and going nuts after Trump said something.
Big mistake on their part.
It's like their Daddy Trump gave them
permission to go to Vegas for the
weekend. If you truly hate the man
as much as you claim, you do not
give this kind of reaction to ANY
thing he says.
Again, I almost fully agree, certainly about the bit where they reacted as though trumpy owned them.Quote: EvenBobIt's like their Daddy Trump gave them
permission to go to Vegas for the
weekend. If you truly hate the man
as much as you claim, you do not
give this kind of reaction to ANY
thing he says.
But I don't agree about it being about personal hatred. It was just tactically wrong on so many levels. It gave encouragement to their adversary. It will have emboldened him and fueled and encouraged him to KNOW that he could manipulate them. It showed them to be fools who he'll now chip away at and try to bring further and further under his control. It surely sent the same messages to the Dem voters and donors that put their faith in these women and would probably weaken their standing with their own supporters.
They may have been trying to cheer at their own victories, but they gave that cheer to trumps speech. That's oxygen to the master showman.
Kudos to trumpy's speech writers. Clearly not him, because it was oh so measured. I think clearly not Miller either. I wonder if he got the writers of some PR company or some soap opera to write it. Maybe even faxed direct from the Russian embassy. He read it well, IMHO. I doubt he cared or even knew what was in it.
Quote: OnceDearIt will have emboldened him and fueled and encouraged him to KNOW that he could manipulate them.
This is Trump's brilliance. He's the master
puppeteer and manipulator. The minute
he named Jeb 'low energy', Jeb was done.
Same with this thing with the women. He
knew he could trick them with something
they just couldn't resist.
With Trump you never know what he'll
do next to move the agenda in his
direction.
Dammit EB. Agreeing with you 3 times in one day is just too much to bear. See ya in 24 hours+Quote: EvenBobThis is Trump's brilliance. He's the master
puppeteer and manipulator. The minute
he named Jeb 'low energy', Jeb was done.
Same with this thing with the women. He
knew he could trick them with something
they just couldn't resist.
With Trump you never know what he'll
do next to move the agenda in his
direction.
Quote: terapinedAre you promoting fake news or do you have proof she lied to congress?
If she lied, republicans would be on her like white on rice charging her with breaking the law
This is a Vegas board
I'm betting on jackmagic777 pushing fake news
Cmon jack, how about posting some facts for once
I said she is a LIAR. You brought Congress and fake new up as a sad defense. Maybe she is suffering from PTSD from landing under sniper fire in Bosnia ??? Then running with her head down to escape in waiting vehicles. 100 news sources that covered her trip never mentioned it. All right wings papers I assume.
and these 2 right wing newspapers too
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/23/recalling-hillary-clintons-claim-of-landing-under-sniper-fire-in-bosnia/?utm_term=.547d4625fba6
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/
Your turn now to throw mud at Trump, that will cleans poor Hillary lies and make you feel better.
Quote: jackmagic777Your turn now to throw mud at Trump, that will cleans poor Hillary lies and make you feel better
lol, you just did the exact same thing
I'm glad to see you value Politifact as a source. Let's compare:
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
70% of Trump's statements fall under Mostly False, False, or Pants on Fire compared to 26% for Hillary.
Quote: Steverinosl70% of Trump's statements fall under Mostly False, False, or Pants on Fire compared to 26% for Hillary.
I was watching a Republican pundit make a point about Elizabeth Warren, "But she lied!" and sounding so outraged about her ruined character. Almost bust a gut laughing at the irony.
Quote: jackmagic777I said she is a LIAR.
ROTFL
All politicians lie. Even Trump
Did she lie to congress like Jr probably did? Of course not. She is not dumb like JR
Quote: rxwineI was watching a Republican pundit make a point about Elizabeth Warren, "But she lied!" and sounding so outraged about her ruined character. Almost bust a gut laughing at the irony.
Is their a politician that has not lied :-)
Of course not
Quote: terapinedIs their a politician that has not lied :-)
Of course not
It's the lie itself that's important. She
lied about her heritage for decades
to get jobs, to get more benefits,
to get promoted, to get elected.
She's a joke now, if she continues
to run it will ruin her. Did she really
think we would buy her 'maw-maw
told me we were Indian' story would
fly? How dumb is this woman..
Quote: EvenBobIt's the lie itself that's important. She
lied about her heritage for decades
to get jobs, to get more benefits,
to get promoted, to get elected.
.
Trump lied plenty to get ahead. Trump University. Payed women off to keep quiet so he didn't have to reveal it to America. I hate to think how many things he's done that are tied to lying and getting ahead.
I think his business problems are eventually going to go beyond lying about things. Were that were the worst of it. You have to be really naïve to believe otherwise.
Quote: EvenBobIt's the lie itself that's important. She
lied about her heritage for decades
to get jobs, to get more benefits,
to get promoted, to get elected.
She's a joke now, if she continues
to run it will ruin her. Did she really
think we would buy her 'maw-maw
told me we were Indian' story would
fly? How dumb is this woman..
Is saying you are an Indian considered an advantage in Oklahoma or Texas? The people who hired her have all stated her ethnicity had nothing to do with her getting the job. Do you think she was elected Senator because voters were fooled into voting for the Native American?
I don't usually bother responding to your foolishness, but I'd love to see how your thought process works. Where did she benefit by her claiming to be a NA?
Quote: billryanIs saying you are an Indian considered an advantage in Oklahoma or Texas? The people who hired her have all stated her ethnicity had nothing to do with her getting the job. Do you think she was elected Senator because voters were fooled into voting for the Native American?
I don't usually bother responding to your foolishness, but I'd love to see how your thought process works. Where did she benefit by her claiming to be a NA?
In Texas in 1986, I'd be surprised it helped her at all. May have even hurt her.
I have been told by my mother that I have a bit of American Indian ancestry. But ive never claimed it on a form either. Considering i'm pasty white, the percentage surely can't be very much.
Quote: tringlomaneIn Texas in 1986, I'd be surprised it helped her at all. May have even hurt her.
I have been told by my mother that I have a bit of American Indian ancestry. But ive never claimed it on a form either. Considering i'm pasty white, the percentage surely can't be very much.
The father of my nieces and nephew was 1/4 Cherokee. It seemed evident to some extent.
None of them look the slightest bit Cherokee in terms of features or skin color. But they are indisputably 1/8 by heritage.
I don't know why it matters to anyone, in the end. Except those to whom it did brought on themselves the affirmative action regulations that make it matter now, I guess.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe father of my nieces and nephew was 1/4 Cherokee. It seemed evident to some extent.
None of them look the slightest bit Cherokee in terms of features or skin color. But they are indisputably 1/8 by heritage.
I don't know why it matters to anyone, in the end. Except those to whom it did brought on themselves the affirmative action regulations that make it matter now, I guess.
I thought about throwing this in my original post too, but changed my mind. Now your post changed my mind again. There was a girl in my high school that said she was 1/16th Cherokee, but definitely looks like what most people would consider as "white".
Ironically, she is one of the last people I've seen from my high school. Completely random meeting outside of a JCPenney's earlier this decade.
The Vegas trip that I met the Wizard, I intentionally met up with another guy from my HS on the trip who was in town at the same time. And then I randomly bumped into a guy I taught in grad school in the same trip! Crazy!
Quote: EvenBobI keep forgetting that Rush has had
the number one radio show for
30 years because he lies so much.
And his cretin listeners have never
caught on. Shhhh, they're such
idiots. lol
American Idol was also the number one
television show for a decade. Just because
a show is rated highly doesn't make it good.
It just is popular.
Katy Perry has the most Twitter followers.
Kim Kardashian has 126,000,000 followers on Instagram.
Rush and his ilk are listened to the fourth most (behind
2 NPR news shows) because of his network.
Just like 20,000+ posts on a forum doesn't
mean equate to anything except that you've
posted here a lot.
Quantity <> Quality
Ratings <> Truth
Drones tune in to Rush because they want
to hear what to think.
Quote: rxwineI think his business problems
UhHuh. Libs thought he wouldn't even
be sworn in, then he wouldn't last
a month, 3 months, etc.
Now he's in the 3rd year of his
presidency and you're still playing
the same tired song. He obviously
isn't going anywhere.
Quote: boymimboAmerican Idol was also the number one
For 30 years? Get back to me
when it's 30 years. We listen
to Rush because he ties it
all together so well, it's why
he lives in the medias mind
and it's not even rent free.
The media has been obsessed
with him for decades and are
still blaming him for everything.
It's amazing the power he has
over them.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe father of my nieces and nephew was 1/4 Cherokee. It seemed evident to some extent.
None of them look the slightest bit Cherokee in terms of features or skin color. But they are indisputably 1/8 by heritage.
I don't know why it matters to anyone, in the end. Except those to whom it did brought on themselves the affirmative action regulations that make it matter now, I guess.
Nonetheless of course it matters. Certainly Pocohantas thought she was getting an advantage by putting the extreme minority on the form, and it will factor in greatly to her run. "Integrity" and political correctness will run rampant in a democratic campaign and this is one mortal wound. Just like franken had to resign for grabbing a boob before he was a senator, Warren will not get the nomination because of this. Context of party matters. You can't equate GOP actions to Dem actions because the standards are different.
Bringing it back to Trump, the SOTU was fine. My best hope for him is that he does things that turn out to be populist, like getting DACA done (for his border fence) and that he fulfills the parental leave statement. Quite honestly 5.7B is nothing. Hopefully they get to a point where both sides can claim "victory" for their base.
Quote: tringlomaneIn Texas in 1986, I'd be surprised it helped her at all. .
She must have thought it would or she
wouldn't have done it. She knew she
was as white as they come and put
Native American on the form because
she knew it would benefit her in some
way.
Quote: EvenBobFor 30 years? Get back to me
when it's 30 years. We listen
to Rush because he ties it
all together so well, it's why
he lives in the medias mind
and it's not even rent free.
The media has been obsessed
with him for decades and are
still blaming him for everything.
It's amazing the power he has
over them.
He certainly has a loyal base, I'll give ya that much.
Quote: EvenBobShe must have thought it would or she
wouldn't have done it. She knew she
was as white as they come and put
Native American on the form because
she knew it would benefit her in some
way.
She probably thought it would. But I personally don't think 1986 Texas gave a crap.
Quote: billryanI don't usually bother responding to your foolishness, ...
Personal insult, three-day suspension.
Quote: WizardPersonal insult, three-day suspension.
Sigh.
Number of times EvenBob is suspended = 1
Number of times other members are suspended due to EvenBob's general frustration >>> 1.
I took a 3+ year hiatus on starting threads partly thanks to EvenBob. It ended just 2 days ago. It's my very first thread that cannot be possibly classified as a "trip report".
Quote: tringlomaneShe probably thought it would. But I personally don't think 1986 Texas gave a crap.
I'm sure she was thinking far beyond
Texas, she was already laying the
groundwork to get a job at Harvard.
I'm sure they saw her law license
application with Native American
on it. They would also know, like
Ace said, lying it is a crime in most
places, so it must be true that she
really is Native American.
Quote: billryanIs saying you are an Indian considered an advantage in Oklahoma or Texas?
Who cares, she moved on to Harvard where
it very much mattered. She told everybody
about her heritage and even contributed to a
Native American cookbook with recipes
she stole from an expensive NYC restaurant.
Her and Joe Biden, stealing from others and
calling it their own.
"Warren concocted her claims of Cherokee heritage to achieve minority status to help her get faculty jobs through university diversity hiring policies. Like her Sixties campus forbears, she figured out in early adulthood that kinship with oppressed minorities is the antidote to white guilt and the ticket to a perpetual state of self-righteousness and victimization."
Quote: EvenBobWho cares, she moved on to Harvard where
it very much mattered. She told everybody
about her heritage and even contributed to a
Native American cookbook with recipes
she stole from an expensive NYC restaurant.
Her and Joe Biden, stealing from others and
calling it their own.
"Warren concocted her claims of Cherokee heritage to achieve minority status to help her get faculty jobs through university diversity hiring policies. Like her Sixties campus forbears, she figured out in early adulthood that kinship with oppressed minorities is the antidote to white guilt and the ticket to a perpetual state of self-righteousness and victimization."
Who are you quoting, EB? David Duke, I guess, since you can't be bothered to name your sources. Or maybe Ann Coulter or some other nasty and twisted opinion writer?
Quote: beachbumbabs
Who are you quoting, EB?
I rarely post sources here, I learned
my lesson. They scream SOURCE and
then laugh and mock it every time.
Screw that.
Does anybody for one minute think
she went the Indian route for any
other reason than to get things
she didn't deserve? Today she hinted
there might be 'other documents' where
she claimed Indian heritage. Ya think?
Quote: EvenBobI rarely post sources here, I learned
my lesson. They scream SOURCE and
then laugh and mock it every time.
Screw that.
Maybe if you could find some decent sources you wouldn’t have this little “problem.”
Quote: ams288Maybe if you could find some decent sources you wouldn’t have this little “problem.”
It's not me that has the 'problem'. You'll
mock any source if you disagree with
the content. What's the point of naming
a source.
Quote: EvenBobDoes anybody for one minute think
she went the Indian route for any
other reason than to get things
she didn't deserve? Today she hinted
there might be 'other documents' where
she claimed Indian heritage. Ya think?
I can't figure out why anybody would want
the faux Indian to be president. She's
disliked in the Senate by both sides because
she has a caustic big mouth. She hasn't
been in the Senate long enough to do anything,
and before that she lied her way into a
Harvard job. Big whoop, this makes her
presidential material? At least Trump had
a huge number of real accomplishments.
(big whoop is Indian lingo)
And she'll be 70 in a few months, and looks
every year of it. She looks old and tired. She'll
be 72 the year she would be president, oh boy.
