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February 8th, 2019 at 11:19:44 AM permalink
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Is saying you are an Indian considered an advantage in Oklahoma or Texas? The people who hired her have all stated her ethnicity had nothing to do with her getting the job. Do you think she was elected Senator because voters were fooled into voting for the Native American?
I don't usually bother responding to your foolishness, but I'd love to see how your thought process works. Where did she benefit by her claiming to be a NA?



Whether she gained or did not gain - it is the fact that she lied
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February 8th, 2019 at 11:42:59 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Whether she gained or did not gain - it is the fact that she lied



She lied and should be held accountable. The ironic thing about this is that the same people screaming for accountablity for her are not only ignoring the pathological lying con man we have in office today, but they are supporting him!
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February 8th, 2019 at 12:00:17 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: EvenBob

Who cares, she moved on to Harvard where
it very much mattered. She told everybody
about her heritage and even contributed to a
Native American cookbook with recipes
she stole from an expensive NYC restaurant.
Her and Joe Biden, stealing from others and
calling it their own.

"Warren concocted her claims of Cherokee heritage to achieve minority status to help her get faculty jobs through university diversity hiring policies. Like her Sixties campus forbears, she figured out in early adulthood that kinship with oppressed minorities is the antidote to white guilt and the ticket to a perpetual state of self-righteousness and victimization."



Who are you quoting, EB? David Duke, I guess, since you can't be bothered to name your sources. Or maybe Ann Coulter or some other nasty and twisted opinion writer?



https://ethicsalarms.com/2012/05/19/the-significance-of-pow-wow-chow/
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February 8th, 2019 at 12:21:44 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

She lied and should be held accountable. The ironic thing about this is that the same people screaming for accountablity for her are not only ignoring the pathological lying con man we have in office today, but they are supporting him!



I agree
Its a poor decision to lie and I condemn her for it
The real problem is that conservatives cant condemn a liar or sexual assaulter until they know the politics of the offender
I don't need to know the politics of somebody to condemn a liar or sexual assaulter.
If somebody lies or breaks the law, who care what the politics of the offender is. Unfortunately conservatives care
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 8th, 2019 at 2:03:26 PM permalink
Condemn first, try to verify after, then ignore the reality last. At least that’s how the Dems want us to treat people accused of sexual assault. Dems are going ham over Kavanaugh right now. Lololol
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February 8th, 2019 at 2:41:18 PM permalink
This was wonderful today, the AG
replying to questions just like the
Dems do. Hemming and haw-ing
and giving slow non answers.
He's not going to let himself get
caught in a perjury trap.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 8th, 2019 at 2:58:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This was wonderful today, the AG
replying to questions just like the
Dems do. Hemming and haw-ing
and giving slow non answers.



I don’t think he was doing it purposely, he just seems.... slow.

He will be gone in like a week. Good riddance.
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February 8th, 2019 at 3:08:29 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Condemn first, try to verify after, then ignore the reality last. At least that’s how the Dems want us to treat people accused of sexual assault. Dems are going ham over Kavanaugh right now. Lololol




Nope, check out the evidence 1st and see if it passes the smells guilty test
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 8th, 2019 at 3:10:53 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I don’t think he was doing it purposely, he just seems.... slow.



Are you kidding me? Did you even watch 20min
of it? The guy is super smart, and congress
knows it. They can't pin him down, they can't
get him to say what they want, he's in total
control and it drives them nuts. Like one of
the congressmen says to Nadler, have you
forgotten when we were grilling Holder? He
did the exact same thing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 8th, 2019 at 3:18:52 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Nope, check out the evidence 1st and see if it passes the smells guilty test


“Evidence”


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February 8th, 2019 at 4:34:22 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-calls-to-abolish-ice-says-latinos-must-be-exempt-from-immigration-laws-because-they-are-native-to-us



You guys have every right to be obsessed with her. She's challenging the status quo and it's about damn time. Republicans THOUGHT that's what they were getting with Trump but that turned out to be empty.

This is what somebody that TRULY wants to drain the swamp sounds like:



Greed is good.
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:38:52 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

You guys have every right to be obsessed with her.



I'm super obsessed with her, lol. Every
time she opens her big mouth she
entertains with her idiocy. I just hope
Pelosi takes her time in reining her
in. Rumor is she's already fed up and
about to take drastic action. The voters
give us this gift of the perfect Leftie
Daffadoodle and Pelosi wants to ruin
everything.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:45:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I'm super obsessed with her



I know. But let's be fair. You're super obsessed with all of the women with a D next to their name. It's all you've talked about this week.
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:51:19 PM permalink
Quote: RS

“Evidence”


sure
Its either that or conservatives giving a pass to all Republican criminals simply due to politics
I prefer to ignore politics when criminals are exposed and examine the evidence
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:55:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Are you kidding me? Did you even watch 20min
of it?



Yes I did. He looked like a dope.

And intelligence aside, he’s super weird looking. Looks like a white, less muscular/powerful version of Thanos from The Avengers.
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February 8th, 2019 at 5:00:41 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Yes I did. He looked like a dope.

And intelligence aside, he’s super weird looking. Looks like a white, less muscular/powerful version of Thanos from The Avengers.



They'd be trying to keep the guy in the AG position, if he was really smart.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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February 8th, 2019 at 6:23:42 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

They'd be trying to keep the guy in the AG position, if he was really smart.



I don't think he's right for it yet. He'll
get another job in DoJ, maybe in that
office.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 8th, 2019 at 6:32:35 PM permalink
Trump has something in common with
DaVinci, Napoleon, Edison, Churchill,
Jefferson, Einstein, Newton, Tesla,
Thatcher, Marie Currie, Dickins. They
all slept 3-4 hours a night and all
had high energy and accomplished
a lot. Like Trump.

I look at PowWow Warren and wonder
where she'll get the strength to be
president, let alone run. She looks
exhausted already. Her and I are
the same age and I'm tired a lot
more than I used to be. Trump is
the rare guy who has boundless
energy, I do not.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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February 8th, 2019 at 6:40:33 PM permalink
Quote: Steverinos

You guys have every right to be obsessed with her. She's challenging the status quo and it's about damn time.



Guess Pelosi didn't tell her about the liberal billionaires, Banks, PACs, Corporations, Universities, and Unions who contributed hundreds of millions of dollars to the Dem party in the mid-term elections.

Billionaire Contributors

Top Organization Contributors

Commercial Bank Contributions

They own the dem party, and they expect something in return.

Insider trading would put us in jail. Not them: Stock Trading

This is a good article about Dark Money, written by Joe Biden and Michael Carpenter, and published by Politico in November. No one in the Ministry of Propaganda or Fox mentioned it or interviewed him after the article was published.

"And while super PACs are required to file financial disclosure reports, non-profit 501(c) organizations (for example, the National Rifle Association or the U.S. Chamber of Commerce) are not. So if a foreign entity transfers money to a 501(c), that organization can in turn contribute funds to a super PAC without disclosing the foreign origin of the money."
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February 8th, 2019 at 6:43:48 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I can't figure out why anybody would want
the faux Indian to be president. She's
disliked in the Senate by both sides because
she has a caustic big mouth. She hasn't
been in the Senate long enough to do anything,
and before that she lied her way into a
Harvard job. Big whoop, this makes her
presidential material? At least Trump had
a huge number of real accomplishments.
(big whoop is Indian lingo)

And she'll be 70 in a few months, and looks
every year of it. She looks old and tired. She'll
be 72 the year she would be president, oh boy.




Trump is the oldest elected president, so I don't know why her age would be relevant here. On the flip side, I do think at a certain age it may be worthwhile to bar access to the presidency as an individual may become out of touch with society's problems. That might sound insensitive, but I don't think many 70+ individuals are suited to lead a nation.
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February 8th, 2019 at 8:03:01 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

Trump is the oldest elected president, so I don't know why her age would be relevant here.



Because she ain't Trump. He has endless
energy, she just looks and acts old. Like
Hillary, who took and still takes constant
long naps every day just to male it to
dinnertime.
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February 9th, 2019 at 2:32:42 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Because she ain't Trump. He has endless
energy, she just looks and acts old. Like
Hillary, who took and still takes constant
long naps every day just to male it to
dinnertime.



You make the faulty comparison of lack of sleep = boundless energy.
Everyone in the know knows that naps and good rest are excellent for cognizant retention. Would you want a pilot, or doctor with that "boundless energy"?

And you also equate his long list of things that he did as positive accomplishments. He did do alot. He accomplished many women. He accomplished many bankruptcies. He accomplished many cons. He accomplished many tweets. Just because he accomplished something doesn't mean it's a good thing.

I wish Trump would take more naps, instead of watching FoxNews in his executive time. Or even read/listen/heed his intelligence team who know far more than he does.

You've harped on women looking old / ugly before and their ability to become president. Of course that's inherently sexist. But it flies under the radar here, because apparently it's okay to equate what a woman looks like to her ability to lead.
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February 9th, 2019 at 4:09:20 AM permalink
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He accomplished many bankruptcies.



The Trump Organization owns approximately 500 business entities.

He only declared bankruptcy six times. Five of those were his AC properties, brought down mostly by the introduction and expansion of casinos in neighboring states.

Six out of 500 is an excellent success rate.

Mitt Romney, who criticized Trump for these bankruptcies has a much higher rate of failure.

“One study of 68 deals that Bain Capital made during Romney's time there found that the firm lost money or broke even on 33 of them.[66] Another study that looked at the eight-year period following 77 deals during Romney's time found that in 17 cases the company went bankrupt or out of business, and in 6 cases Bain Capital lost all its investment.”

The Queen of Dementia never had to worry about bankruptcies, because she used insider trading.

“The fact is, if you sit on a healthcare committee and you know that Medicare, for example, is — is considering not reimbursing for a certain drug that’s market moving information. And if you can trade stock on — off of that information and do so legally, that’s a great profit making opportunity. And that sort of behavior goes on.” -Peter Schweitzer

"In 2012, Congress passed the STOCK Act (Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge), which was aimed at stopping insider trading among members of Congress. House Republicans pushed for an amendment to restrict members of Congress from receiving special access to initial public offerings, and they referred to that as the “Pelosi provision,”
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February 9th, 2019 at 5:31:07 AM permalink
Not every failed business ends in bankruptcy.
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February 9th, 2019 at 7:26:00 AM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

Not every failed business ends in bankruptcy.




Not every bankruptcy means a business failed
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February 9th, 2019 at 7:35:00 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

The Trump Organization owns approximately 500 business entities.

He only declared bankruptcy six times. Five of those were his AC properties, brought down mostly by the introduction and expansion of casinos in neighboring states.

Six out of 500 is an excellent success rate



Quality <> Quantity. Those individual bankruptcies were huge. He in fact was brilliant in that he used junk bonds and making those casinos public to shield the rest of his ventures from bankruptcy. His casinos were brought down due to his own undoing , not due to competition. Bogota opened and thrived while Trump languished and ruined the prosperity of contractors and other creditors who worked for free or got pennies on the dollar at Trump properties.

We can talk about the success of Trump Steaks, Trump water, Trump University,, Trump Mortgage, Trump Vodka, Trump Air, Trump Magazine, the US Pro Golf Tour, 11 different properties and of course The Trump Foundation.

And yeah insider trading by government officials is disgusting and a terrible way to earn wealth. The practice should never have been legal.
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February 9th, 2019 at 7:36:33 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Quote: Tanko

The Trump Organization owns approximately 500 business entities.

He only declared bankruptcy six times. Five of those were his AC properties, brought down mostly by the introduction and expansion of casinos in neighboring states.

Six out of 500 is an excellent success rate



Quality <> Quantity. Those individual bankruptcies were huge. He in fact was brilliant in that he used junk bonds and making those casinos public to shield the rest of his ventures from bankruptcy. His casinos were brought down due to his own undoing , not due to competition. Bogota opened and thrived while Trump languished and ruined the prosperity of contractors and other creditors who worked for free or got pennies on the dollar at Trump properties.

We can talk about the success of Trump Steaks, Trump water, Trump University,, Trump Mortgage, Trump Vodka, Trump Air, Trump Magazine, the US Pro Golf Tour, 11 different properties and of course The Trump Foundation.

And yeah insider trading by government officials is disgusting and a terrible way to earn wealth. The practice should never have been legal.




You have to break a few eggs
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February 9th, 2019 at 9:15:52 AM permalink
Apparently you also have to break a few contracts.
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February 9th, 2019 at 9:58:36 AM permalink
The Dems in the House are furious they
couldn't get AG Whitaker to admit he
somehow interfered with Mueller. They
know Mueller has nothing so they were
hoping to declare the whole thing null
and void because of Trump interference.
Fat ass Nadler threatened to call Whitaker
back before he leaves his post next week.
Nadler loves punishment, I guess.
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February 9th, 2019 at 10:08:08 AM permalink
Did you see AG tell aDem his 5 minutes was up!
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February 9th, 2019 at 10:08:10 AM permalink
Did you see AG tell aDem his 5 minutes was up!
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February 9th, 2019 at 10:21:49 AM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

Did you see AG tell aDem his 5 minutes was up!



That was hilarious. AG Whitacker was in
total charge of the hearing and it drove
the Dems crazy. They were drooling all
over themselves that they were going
nail him, and he nailed them instead.
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February 9th, 2019 at 3:54:29 PM permalink
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I don't usually bother responding to your foolishness, ...



Quote: Wizard

Personal insult, three-day suspension.



Gotta give BillRyan props for avoiding the martingale. What is that, like 7 suspensions so far in the past year with like 4 or 5 in the past 6 months?
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February 10th, 2019 at 10:49:52 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Gotta give BillRyan props for avoiding the martingale. What is that, like 7 suspensions so far in the past year with like 4 or 5 in the past 6 months?



You should have posted this in the "Discussion II about the Suspension List" thread.
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February 11th, 2019 at 4:42:11 AM permalink
The leaks continue. Someone gave Axios Donald's schedules from last week.

https://www.axios.com/trump-schedule-leaks-4840f751-e663-49c0-b288-2dd39bde9c79.html

The lazy fat ass spent 50% of his working hours in "Executive Time."
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:38:31 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

The leaks continue. Someone gave Axios Donald's schedules from last week.

https://www.axios.com/trump-schedule-leaks-4840f751-e663-49c0-b288-2dd39bde9c79.html

The lazy fat ass spent 50% of his working hours in "Executive Time."



Once again, there are so many legitimate beefs with DJT. When you bring up something this stupid it just makes you look stupid. There can't be a job with less defined work hours than President of the USA. Exactly what percent of the time is ok with you to call 'executive time'? There are so many flaws that DJT has. Lazy is NOT one of them.
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February 11th, 2019 at 5:46:42 AM permalink
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Once again, there are so many legitimate beefs with DJT. When you bring up something this stupid it just makes you look stupid. There can't be a job with less defined work hours than President of the USA. Exactly what percent of the time is ok with you to call 'executive time'? There are so many flaws that DJT has. Lazy is NOT one of them.



You would think that his constant detractors would want him to add more "Executive Time" since he is so "lazy"...
Last edited by: RonC on Feb 11, 2019
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:10:16 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Once again, there are so many legitimate beefs with DJT. When you bring up something this stupid it just makes you look stupid.



Usually you know better than to resort to personal insults...
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:21:02 AM permalink
At 7:40am this morning they were actually talking about the new schedule leaks on Morning Joe and they mentioned how lazy Donald is (yes, righties: he is lazy. Sorry that fact triggers you!). Three minutes later he fired off this tweet:



Guess he got an early start at Executive Time this morning.
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:30:11 AM permalink
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Usually you know better than to resort to personal insults...



He could have worded it better but I don't think a personal insult was intended...he was insulting what you posted.

Why would you bring it up unless you wanted him suspended?
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:39:34 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

At 7:40am this morning they were actually talking about the new schedule leaks on Morning Joe and they mentioned how lazy Donald is (yes, righties: he is lazy. Sorry that fact triggers you!). Three minutes later he fired off this tweet:



Guess he got an early start at Executive Time this morning.



It is obvious to ANY observer who can look at things without their own bias added that MSLSD, CNN, and others will ALWAYS have something negative to say about President Trump when they have the opportunity. I am not sure that it is news to anyone here that Fox will almost always find the opportunity to say something positive.

It doesn't trigger me at all, but you did bring it up so you don't get to just do that and say people are "triggered" trying to toss an insult at those who would criticize your post. You bring something into a discussion and there may be some discussion.

I have always contended that the President is on duty all the time and they each run their schedule the way they see fit. They can do stuff at bad times, which warrants criticism, but the daily schedule is not a matter of concern.
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:49:17 AM permalink
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Why would you bring it up unless you wanted him suspended?



He calls for me to be suspended all the time, just returning the favor!
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February 11th, 2019 at 7:59:44 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

He calls for me to be suspended all the time, just returning the favor!



Has he had any luck?

JK...
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February 11th, 2019 at 9:20:39 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

He calls for me to be suspended all the time, just returning the favor!

You can probably demand to become a moderator and save time.
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February 11th, 2019 at 11:29:36 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

He calls for me to be suspended all the time, just returning the favor!



Not true. I find you one of the most important and interesting posters here. I need someone like you to keep me on my toes! You are the lefty equivalent of EB, always approaching that fine line. I believe you have merited suspension many times, but your point of view is valuable here so I’m happy you are still around.
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February 11th, 2019 at 2:45:06 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

He calls for me to be suspended all the time, just returning the favor!



Quote: SOOPOO

Not true. I find you one of the most important and interesting posters here. I need someone like you to keep me on my toes! You are the lefty equivalent of EB, always approaching that fine line. I believe you have merited suspension many times, but your point of view is valuable here so I’m happy you are still around.



Interesting. Which of these posts is true?
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February 11th, 2019 at 3:25:23 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

Interesting. Which of these posts is true?



Well I certainly do not call for him to be suspended "all the time"! I likely have in the past pointed to one of his thousands of posts as being suspension worthy, but of that I am not actually sure! As opposed to EB, I don't post to edify myself. I post to get responses. If there wasn't back and forth here, I wouldn't be here. Would you?
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February 11th, 2019 at 3:38:26 PM permalink
And yet you were most likely to get a response from EB he was here. Of course if he agreed with everyone he would be welcomed with open arms.
Essentially, it is the duty of the moderator to manage the day-to-day affairs of a forum or board as it applies to the stream of user contributions and interactions. The relative effectiveness of this user management directly impacts the quality of a forum in general, its appeal, and its usefulness as a community of interrelated users.
I would start a thread with a poll aboout the quality of moderators here, but that might lead to too many suspensions.
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February 11th, 2019 at 3:47:50 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

And yet you were most likely to get a response from EB he was here. Of course if he agreed with everyone he would be welcomed with open arms.
Essentially, it is the duty of the moderator to manage the day-to-day affairs of a forum or board as it applies to the stream of user contributions and interactions. The relative effectiveness of this user management directly impacts the quality of a forum in general, its appeal, and its usefulness as a community of interrelated users.
I would start a thread with a poll aboout the quality of moderators here, but that might lead to too many suspensions.



Jack, if you don't like the quality of the moderators here... You don't have to be here! I disagree frequently with the mods here... but come on... They are volunteers all trying there best. There is a trip report thread by PG that many look forward to reading. EB continued to spill vitriol all over it. A single post or two would not have bothered anyone, but the incessant harping on how he doesn't like to travel got old real fast. I made a personal request for EB to just stop posting there, but he got suspended shortly thereafter.
You got this one all wrong.
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