Trump's Second and Third year in office
I rejected racism against President Obama and called it out every time I heard it in "real life"--and I reject it now. For the people that support the folks that use the term "racist" all the time to describe the current President, I find it strange that the language of race is best they can do to talk about Kanye West.
Quote: lilredroosterKanye is not 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐛𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧. He is a person who has done and said outrageous things and is mentally unbalanced
one of his quotes:
"God has chosen me to be the voice and the connector"
I guarantee you if Hilary had embraced this person she would have been mocked mercilessly by Faux News and others and liberals who supported her would try to convince her not to have a political relationship with this person.
𝐆𝐔𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐍-𝐃𝐀𝐌𝐍-𝐓𝐄𝐄𝐃
https://www.ranker.com/list/most-insane-kanye-west-quotes/joswo
Of course she would be mocked mercilessly by Fox News and others. But I don't buy for one second that liberals (as a whole, not just a few) would try to dissuade her from having a political relationship with that person. It would be all about acceptance, equality, see-no-race, and coming togetherness, while anyone who said anything bad about the relationship would be called every word from racist to bigot to patriarchalmansplaining-nongenderqueerism or whatever the hot word of the day is. Hell, they wouldn't even have to call the person a negro or use any derogatory(?) terms and they'd still get labeled as being a racist and whatnot because the person is black.
I don't really care much for Kanye West in general or any time a celebrity like that starts going into and talking about politics. At least the way I see it, there are millions of people who practically worship these celebrities and those people may be much more likely to just follow along with what their favorite celebrity said, just because that celebrity said it, or they think it has any more credence due to their celebrity status.
It’s pretty funny that anyone on Fox News is saying how great his speech was. They should just say it was nice for Trump to have invited him, and that’s all.
Quote: ams288How Fox News covered Kanye West’s White House visit compared to rappers during the Obama years
I’ve hated Kayne West forever. I’m glad the righties are claiming him now. They can have him....
How many times did Fox call Rick Ross, Jay Z, Kanye West, or Kendrick Lamar negroes?
Quote: RSHow many times did Fox call Rick Ross, Jay Z, Kanye West, or Kendrick Lamar negroes?
Dunno. I wouldn’t watch Fox if you paid me.
Quote: rxwineKayne West, Charlie Sheen, Gary Bussey, Randy Quaid-- normal rules don't apply when they're off their rocker.
So now we are allowed to call those who have mental issues names?
These darn rules change so fast!
Quote: RonCSo now we are allowed to call those who have mental issues names?
These darn rules change so fast!
We’ve always been allowed to, it’s a free country.
I guess you’re just objecting now because one of them seems to agree with your politics.
Quote: RS“Listen, black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft, okay. They’ve had it with him. He’s an attention whore, like the president. He’s all of a sudden now the the the model spokesperson. He’s he’s the token negro of the Trump administration. This is ridiculous and no one should be taking Kanye West seriously. He’s clearly has issues....” -the black woman on CNN who was *NOT* rejecting nor labeling Kanye.
I 100% guarantee if any of those comments were made by white people on Fox about some black person supporting Hillary Clinton in the same way, you’d have every liberal extremely upset about it, the white dude would be getting death threats, and all this other nonsense. Guaranteed.
#Warren2020
#LockHimUp
#HRC4prez
The most IMPORTANT part of your post is that the comments were made by the BLACK woman on CNN
IDK why you feel people of the same race dont have privilege insulting their own race. Thats the way it is
Jewish people mock Jewish people all the time (my own mom was pretty vicious about it but dont let a goy say anything and she'd be offended)
White crackers can spout all they want about white crackers and Asians talk all types of crap about Asians
And Black folk talk all types of crap about black folk (even using That N-word that you cant)
Its only really upsetting and non-pc when white folk talk about black folk or vice versa or either talk about Asians or vice versa
So you are upset a black person said things about another black person and wasnt taken to task for it?
Did they ever say Ben Carson was a token negro?
He’s been silent ever since he was caught trying to spend $30k in taxpayer money on silverware.
I thought all the righties on here said Trump was going to drain the swamp of this garbage.
Quote: RonCHowever, the free ride many of you are willing to give people who described him in racial terms that you would reject if they described someone you support is interesting.
Other than whining about how much we hate it on an internet chatroom, what should we be doing about people who say stupid things like this? What are you doing about it?
Quote: TomGOther than whining about how much we hate it on an internet chatroom, what should we be doing about people who say stupid things like this? What are you doing about it?
I already said that I say something when race comes into the conversation in any derogatory way.
I think that people employed by major cable news networks should be able to describe people they disagree with based on their disagreements with them and not their skin color.
What are you doing about it?
Quote: RonCI already said that I say something when race comes into the conversation in any derogatory way.
I think that people employed by major cable news networks should be able to describe people they disagree with based on their disagreements with them and not their skin color.
What are you doing about it?
Im watching CNN and MSNBC
Quote: RSOf course she would be mocked mercilessly by Fox News and others. But I don't buy for one second that liberals (as a whole, not just a few) would try to dissuade her from having a political relationship with that person. It would be all about acceptance, equality, see-no-race, and coming togetherness, while anyone who said anything bad about the relationship would be called every word from racist to bigot to patriarchalmansplaining-nongenderqueerism or whatever the hot word of the day is. Hell, they wouldn't even have to call the person a negro or use any derogatory(?) terms and they'd still get labeled as being a racist and whatnot because the person is black.
Naw. Crazy is crazy.
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Total nonsense
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I don't really care much for Kanye West in general or any time a celebrity like that starts going into and talking about politics. At least the way I see it, there are millions of people who practically worship these celebrities and those people may be much more likely to just follow along with what their favorite celebrity said, just because that celebrity said it, or they think it has any more credence due to their celebrity status.
Gee, that would be Trump, wouldn't it? Thought so. Completely correct on this, from shooting people on 5th Avenue down. And yet you take his words as gospel. What's he up to, around 6,000 documented factual lies? But that's okay with you, I guess, because he's a celebrity.
Quote: beachbumbabsAnd yet you take his words as gospel.
I don't speak for RS but, from my point of view, this is the silly narrative people continue to spew about folks that are on the right and support the President. "Supporting the President" does not mean that every word he speaks is correct, proper, or even true--the support that is given is for the things that he promised and is getting done. I don't care for his silly and divisive Twitter crap and I don't live my days thinking he is something more than a flawed person elected to high office in an election that featured two highly flawed individuals.
When I think he is wrong, I say that I think that he is wrong. I'm not going to change sides just because I don't think he is the best thing since sliced bread...he still has the ability to get things done, we do have a valid system of checks and balances on executive power, and I know that he will only be in office for a maximum of six more years.
I hope those on the left don't live by every word of Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the leadership on that side. Well, maybe I do...politically...but not among people here that I think are smarter than that.
Quote: RS“Listen, black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft, okay. They’ve had it with him. He’s an attention whore, like the president. He’s all of a sudden now the the the model spokesperson. He’s he’s the token negro of the Trump administration. This is ridiculous and no one should be taking Kanye West seriously. He’s clearly has issues....” -the black woman on CNN who was *NOT* rejecting nor labeling Kanye.
I 100% guarantee if any of those comments were made by white people on Fox about some black person supporting Hillary Clinton in the same way, you’d have every liberal extremely upset about it, the white dude would be getting death threats, and all this other nonsense. Guaranteed.
#Warren2020
#LockHimUp
#HRC4prez
I'm going to have to side with RS on this one. As soon as I turned on the clip, I thought, "It's not going to be the white dude that says it." I love the Chappelle Show reference.
I'm also kind of a freedom of speech guy and really don't think anyone from either side should get unnecessarily riled up over something like that in most any context. There was no incitement to violence or any general derogatory racial slurs. No blacks, whites, latinos, Germans, Rastas, Hawaiians, Chinese, Jews, Russians, Native Antarticans, Women, Children, Transexuals, Mid-America Farmers or Victims of Gang-Related Violence were harmed in the making of that joke.
Quote: RonCI already said that I say something when race comes into the conversation in any derogatory way.Quote: TomGOther than whining about how much we hate it on an internet chatroom, what should we be doing about people who say stupid things like this? What are you doing about it?
I think that people employed by major cable news networks should be able to describe people they disagree with based on their disagreements with them and not their skin color.
What are you doing about it?
I am doing exactly the same thing as everyone else here: whining about it on the internet
Quote: ams288Dunno. I wouldn’t watch Fox if you paid me.
I would. I've heard George Soros pays people to stay home and watch it.
I once worked in a disco. Getting paid to watch Faux would be a walk in the park.
Quote: darkozThe most IMPORTANT part of your post is that the comments were made by the BLACK woman on CNN
IDK why you feel people of the same race dont have privilege insulting their own race. Thats the way it is
Jewish people mock Jewish people all the time (my own mom was pretty vicious about it but dont let a goy say anything and she'd be offended)
White crackers can spout all they want about white crackers and Asians talk all types of crap about Asians
And Black folk talk all types of crap about black folk (even using That N-word that you cant)
Its only really upsetting and non-pc when white folk talk about black folk or vice versa or either talk about Asians or vice versa
So you are upset a black person said things about another black person and wasnt taken to task for it?
I guess I am going have to educate you, Darkoz. A significant part of the civil rights movement was about people of color making racist cracks against themselves. That's what most of the marches were about,
People don't realize the extent of racism practiced by people against their own especially since whites were the ones who knew the real shortcomings of black people. Having never lived in their skin, this made whites experts on blacks.
So now maybe you understand why some whites get upset when they can't participate at least equally with criticizing blacks with other blacks. It's very logical.
Quote: beachbumbabsGee, that would be Trump, wouldn't it? Thought so. Completely correct on this, from shooting people on 5th Avenue down. And yet you take his words as gospel. What's he up to, around 6,000 documented factual lies? But that's okay with you, I guess, because he's a celebrity.
Not sure when, if ever, I've given anyone the impression that I take Trump's words as gospel. If that's your interpretation, then that's your interpretation, but don't confuse supporting someone with taking their words as gospel.
I didn't really "look up" to Donald Trump (pre-2016 election/campaign) because I knew very little about him, other than him being a rich businessman and whatnot. Didn't even know he was the host of The Apprentice. I support/supported Trump because many of the things he said resonated with me and made sense -- it wasn't the usual "political talk" that every other politician seems/seemed to do.
Quote: darkozThe most IMPORTANT part of your post is that the comments were made by the BLACK woman on CNN
IDK why you feel people of the same race dont have privilege insulting their own race. Thats the way it is
Jewish people mock Jewish people all the time (my own mom was pretty vicious about it but dont let a goy say anything and she'd be offended)
White crackers can spout all they want about white crackers and Asians talk all types of crap about Asians
And Black folk talk all types of crap about black folk (even using That N-word that you cant)
Its only really upsetting and non-pc when white folk talk about black folk or vice versa or either talk about Asians or vice versa
So you are upset a black person said things about another black person and wasnt taken to task for it?
No, the most important part is that the people who always get bent out of shape for anything that might almost sound racist, right now all you hear is crickets from them, at least when it comes saying "that's not okay". I mean, hell, your own post seems to be supporting NPCNN's racist comments.
I don't really care who makes what comments, I just find it highly hypocritical the people who get all hot and bothered when anything seemingly racist happens are nowhere to be found opposing those comments.
I thought you said black folk can use the N-word. I'm part black though. But you say I can't use it? Huh????
Quote: RSNo, the most important part is that the people who always get bent out of shape for anything that might almost sound racist, right now all you hear is crickets from them, at least when it comes saying "that's not okay". I mean, hell, your own post seems to be supporting NPCNN's racist comments.
I don't really care who makes what comments, I just find it highly hypocritical the people who get all hot and bothered when anything seemingly racist happens are nowhere to be found opposing those comments.
I thought you said black folk can use the N-word. I'm part black though. But you say I can't use it? Huh????
If u r mixed go right ahead and use it
From your avatar all I see is white with black face (the kitty kat you chose lol)
Quote:prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Quote: darkozQuote: RSI thought you said black folk can use the N-word. I'm part black though. But you say I can't use it? Huh????
If u r mixed go right ahead and use it
What is the lowest possible percentage of "black" required before it is acceptable to use the word? I defer to your expertise.
Quote: PuckerbuttWhat is the lowest possible percentage of "black" required before it is acceptable to use the word? I defer to your expertise.
Unfortunately the percentage allowable is not so black and white
Pun intended
EDIT: I would say there are also exceptions
For the most part the black community gives Quentin Tarantino a pass when he says it (with only Spike Lee being vocally against)
I would say if you are white and Samuel L. Jackson or Pam Grier doesnt mind you using it around them then its okay
You are considered an honorary black man
Quote: darkozFor the most part the black community gives Quentin Tarantino a pass when he says it (with only Spike Lee being vocally against)
We are getting waaaay off topic, but if characters in his movies say it, does that equal QT saying it?
Quote: ams288We are getting waaaay off topic, but if characters in his movies say it, does that equal QT saying it?
Only when he is playing characters in his movies
DOWN WITH TRUMP!
#TRAGA
Trump Raping Any Girl Around
EDIT: I cleaned the post up a bit
Has anyone asked for her opinion yet? OMG, what does Kim think?
Quote: rxwineAccording to my understanding of racism, a black commentator CAN'T be a racist against a black man
Quote:prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
All due respect, but what I think RS is trying to say is that the comment should generally NOT be considered a racist one regardless of who it comes from.
Quote: Mission146
All due respect, but what I think RS is trying to say is that the comment should generally NOT be considered a racist one regardless of who it comes from.
if this was the clarification,, i'd have to judge otherwise /see permalink
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/728/#post678968
I was just saying that out of context it had a different meaning. And it does, as to who's saying it and what they're implying.
Quote: rxwineif this was the clarification,, i'd have to judge otherwise /see permalink
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/728/#post678968
Sarcasm. I only believe that because that’s how I speak. When he says, “Almost sounds racist,” and, “Seemingly racist,” those are the kinds of terms I would use if I didn’t believe it was racist at all. That’s my brand of sarcasm.
When I say "seemingly racist" or "almost sounds racist", I'm talking about things that are NOT racist, but people twist it around to fit their narrative that "bad orange man" is a racist -- EG: Trump's comment about MS-13 being animals. Or when someone says they want a strong border and not have illegal immigrants, it gets spun into hating Mexicans or some such nonsense like that.
But overall, the off-the-charts hypocrisy shown by the left, at least from what I've seen on here and some other social media, where they're somewhere between dead silent and "well it's okay because the commentators are black and Kanye is stupid and doesn't read so the commentators are factually accurate". To be fair, ams288 made a comment about how the commentators should be fired if they did say those things (IIRC). But, as a whole, I don't think the left really cares as much about minorities/equality as they make it seem....otherwise there'd be riots in the streets (sorry, peaceful protests* where looting, threats of violence, lighting cars on fire, and other crimes occur) calling for Don Lemon's and that one woman's head.
I took an acquaintance to an auction today as he wanted some outdoor furniture.
When we got there, one of the items was what was listed as a previously unknown Hitler photograph. It's he and some of his inner circle posing at a wedding and supposedly it's the only known copy. He goes nuts, insisting he has to have it and passed up buying the furniture in case he might need that cash. I left him there.
Quote: RSwell it's okay because the commentators are black
IT IS OKAY!
i'm a white person who has said some terrible things about white people and will forever laugh in the face of anyone who calls me a racist for it. ALL white people should die, How's that? IS there anything worse I can say about white people as a white person? OTHER white people who are offended by my comments are obviously more stupid than the average white person.
Yes you can talk smack about your own race, The accusation about it being racist is ludicrous because it's nothing like real racism as it is somewhat similar to comparing a fight between two different people, to calling punching your own face a fight.. There's no there, there. I'm not saying it's smart or correct , or even a good idea, just that it is permissible.
okay, here's a challenge for you, and Mission. Is this song a parody of racism or racist? What race is the person who made the song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isgHhRST0g
"A man (Trump) who's really doing well, if you believe in polls. I believe in polls, only the ones that have us up, cuz those are the only really honest ones
Lol just smh
Pure comedy
Truth he only believes polls if they are in his favor
Lies only the ones in his favor tell the truth
Quote: rxwineIT IS OKAY!
i'm a white person who has said some terrible things about white people and will forever laugh in the face of anyone who calls me a racist for it. ALL white people should die, How's that? IS there anything worse I can say about white people as a white person? OTHER white people who are offended by my comments are obviously more stupid than the average white person.
Yes you can talk smack about your own race, The accusation about it being racist is ludicrous because it's nothing like real racism as it is somewhat similar to comparing a fight between two different people, to calling punching your own face a fight.. There's no there, there. I'm not saying it's smart or correct , or even a good idea, just that it is permissible.
okay, here's a challenge for you, and Mission. Is this song a parody of racism or racist? What race is the person who made the song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isgHhRST0g
I’d day it’s racist but funny as hell. But it doesn’t seem like you’re interested in having an honest discussion.
“ALL white people should die,” -rxwine
Quote: rxwine
okay, here's a challenge for you, and Mission. Is this song a parody of racism or racist? What race is the person who made the song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isgHhRST0g
It's both racist AND a parody of racism. The person who made this song has to be black.
I lost the try not to laugh challenge, twice. The first time was at Family - Guy, but I think I lost it there because of the reaction of the gentleman reviewing the song. The second time I lost it was when he said, "Porchmonkey," just because I think it's a really funny sounding word. You could say that word absent any context whatsoever and I'd probably chortle.
Quote:Mr. Trump said it was possible that “rogue killers” were behind the disappearance of the journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.
Good grief. Rogue killers running amuck in the Saudi Embassy. Head explodes.
MLK used the term Negro 13 times in his I Have a Dream speech.
As a white person, I don't get to decide what is offensive to other races. If two black people are referring to themselves in that language, who am I to cry racism unless I'm on Fox News trying to divide people and stir up s**t? And just for clarification, I'm not offended when I have to check the Caucasian box on official government forms.
By the way, Tara Setmeyer is a REAL conservative republican woman. She has been in the trenches fighting for conservative causes for years. She is authentic.
The guy is a complete douche.
Quote: SteverinosIt's absolutely hilarious that Elizabeth Warren took a DNA test and now Trump is going back on his word that he would donate 1 million to her charity of choice if she did.
The guy is a complete douche.
Speaking of hilarious. ..
Everybody remember Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney who did all the porn girl payoffs and then got thrown under the bus?
Over the weekend, he registered to vote as a Democrat.
Quote: beachbumbabsOver the weekend, he registered to vote as a Democrat.
According to Wikipedia, he's been a registered Democrat his entire life except for 2002-2004 and 2017-now.
So, that's not really shocking news.
Quote: TigerWuAccording to Wikipedia, he's been a registered Democrat his entire life except for 2002-2004 and 2017-now.
Probably correlates with Trump's pattern as well. Pretending to be conservative during Obama's presidency was big business.
Quote: TigerWuAccording to Wikipedia, he's been a registered Democrat his entire life except for 2002-2004 and 2017-now.
So, that's not really shocking news.
Kind of like trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-15/trump-s-first-annual-budget-deficit-climbs-to-a-six-year-high?srnd=premium
There is no mention of this on the Fox News website this morning. I did a couple searches and didn't find anything. Ironically, however, there is a headline in the middle of their front page that reads, "HYPOCRISY DOESN'T END".
Yeah, I can't think of a more hypocritical bunch than the current class of GOP voters and their representatives. Where are the real conservatives that were saying the deficit was going to destroy America? Where are those people? Why isn't Fox covering this? Do you honestly think that it would NOT have been front page material if Barack Obama was president? When have republicans EVER shrunk the deficit? When have they EVER been fiscally conservative with OUR money?
They are right about ONE thing, the hypocrisy doesn't end.
