Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: Maverick17YOUR PRESIDENT is commonly referred to the Leader of the free world.
It really doesn't matter where you pillow your head, President Trump is YOUR PRESIDENT.
If that's the case, then you should be saying OUR PRESIDENT.
Quote: ams288Finally, some good news!
The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’
Don't believe it. It's a marketing stunt designed to pull in more money/members. The NRA is playing its base like a fiddle.
DACA remains unchanged and reinstated
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/08/04/judge-rules-that-obama-era-daca-program-will-stand/23495873/
Quote: darkozTrump loses!
DACA remains unchanged and reinstated
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/08/04/judge-rules-that-obama-era-daca-program-will-stand/23495873/
Sure, but now the judge in Tejas will rule against it and you are back at square one.
his parents trained him to hate very well
Quote: lilredrooster𝐋𝐎𝐂𝐊 𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐔𝐏 - 𝐋𝐎𝐂𝐊 𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐔𝐏 - he screams
his parents trained him to hate very well
Scary. Reminds me of that movie Jesus Camp.
I remember once in high school when Clinton was President I overheard some girl in my class say how much she hated Clinton and wished someone would assassinate him.
I just thought to myself, "Girl, you don't know a f***ing thing about politics. Shut the hell up. You're just parroting what your parents are saying, and they sound like idiots, too."
Yea to russians
Boo to americans
What a disgrace
United Soviet States of America
Quote: darkozTrump rally
Why is he still having rallies? He knows he won the election, right? Like almost two f***ing years ago?
Moscow
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Governing
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Quote: TigerWuWhy is he still having rallies? He knows he won the election, right? Like almost two f***ing years ago?
Moscow
Agent
Governing
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Supposedly had a meeting to discuss the russian election interference - first meeting about it with his security staff in the 2 years since it became headline news
That lasted less than an hour
Then he went for an up to 2 week vacation at his golf course
Quote: darkoz
Supposedly had a meeting to discuss the russian election interference - first meeting about it with his security staff in the 2 years since it became headline news
That lasted less than an hour
That long? For a man who radically changes topics of discussion LITERALLY WITHIN THE SAME SENTENCE, I'm surprised he can focus on a meeting that lasts more than 4 or 5 minutes.
Quote:Then he went for an up to 2 week vacation at his golf course
Good. The more he's out golfing, the less damage he does.
I'm sorry, but how can OUR President make such an immature statement? There is policy and humanity, and both are important. You can argue about his policies, but I want my President to not behave like an immature high schooler. I don't care about Stormy. I believe Russia, Russia, Russia is nothing. I'm not sure about tariffs. But I want my President to not act like a petulant child.
PLEASE DEMS...... nominate a moderate who can beat him..... and move the country back to its happy center.....
Quote: SOOPOO. I believe Russia, Russia, Russia is nothing.
If the Russia probe was nothing, or a minor thing, then Trump really made a miscalculation not addressing it properly earlier, because Mueller is essentially rummaging through Trump's stuff, and anything illegal goes to another investigation by whatever agency would address such things. If you have other things to hide clear the air on minor stuff, or they may find everything else while investigating next to nothing.
Tariffs are disruptive and shifts jobs. By targeting tariffs at steel and aluminum he gives key demos job growth. The damage is that countertariffs depress the stock market (uncertainty) and destroy American jobs as customers overseas buy goods from other countries. All economists believe the same thing and it is not fake news. It makes common sense. There is no evidence that the tariffs are creating net jobs nor does it make sense that it would.
But this happens. It's cyclical. The same thing happened this summer in Ontario where we voted in a premier who is very much like Donald Trump, because the population was tired of the Liberals in office and broken promises that every government makes. Be patient.
Quote: boymimbo
Tariffs are disruptive and shifts jobs. By targeting tariffs at steel and aluminum he gives key demos job growth. The damage is that countertariffs depress the stock market (uncertainty) and destroy American jobs as customers overseas buy goods from other countries. All economists believe the same thing and it is not fake news. It makes common sense. There is no evidence that the tariffs are creating net jobs nor does it make sense that it would.
But this happens. It's cyclical. The same thing happened this summer in Ontario where we voted in a premier who is very much like Donald Trump, because the population was tired of the Liberals in office and broken promises that every government makes. Be patient.
I understand your tariff explanation, let's say we change the word tariff to tax. It is just another way for the government to get money to do the stuff it does. The oppressively high tax corporations paid under BHO had many biggies becoming Irish or Monaco or (name any country with lower corporation taxes). Tariffs are placed on American exports by other countries. And other countries sometimes subsidize industries to give an unfair advantage over American countries. And other countries will pay 10% of what we pay to a bottom level worker. Tariffs are a piece of the puzzle. My feeling is that if a more sane politician had proposed and implemented them, the "they are bad because Trump proposed them" thought would take a back seat to "there are good and bad things" about them.
Most economists believe that trade defictss are not bad things especially when currency valauton is the main driver behind the imbalance. For many voters the words "deficit" is seen as a bad thing when it is not. Running a deficit temporarily in order to grow is not a bad thing.
As for the havens of course it is still going on. You can see on the treasury reports that corporate tax revenue is way down because companies are choosing to offshore. Put it this way. If you had a million bucks of revenue that was taxable at 25% at home but you were paying 8% tax in Bermuda and the you hear that the 25% tax was now 18% , why would you bring that money home? And as a more direct example say your PA state tax was 6% and our went to the trouble of setting yourself up to avoid paying 18% state tax in NY. Ty out enjoy that for a few years, and then NYS declares that is is reducing its tax rate to 12%. What would you do?
But hey thats totally legal (like why werent you just admitting it before if thats the case)
His latest tweet:
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!
8:35 AM - Aug 5, 2018
Notice his last sentence - I did not know about it
Wow. So if it turns out collusion (synonym - conspiracy) is a crime Daddy makes sure only son knew so daddy doesn't go to jail
Throws his own son under the bus (just confessed for him) with spurious legal argument while still shielding himself
What type of coward does that to his own child?
And righties actually think hes fighting for them? Lol when he wont even fight for his own son?
Quote: darkozWell OUR PRESIDENT has now proclaimed there was collusion between his son Donald and the Russians
But hey thats totally legal (like why werent you just admitting it before if thats the case)
His latest tweet:
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!
8:35 AM - Aug 5, 2018
Notice his last sentence - I did not know about it
Wow. So if it turns out collusion (synonym - conspiracy) is a crime Daddy makes sure only son knew so daddy doesn't go to jail
Throws his own son under the bus (just confessed for him) with spurious legal argument while still shielding himself
What type of coward does that to his own child?
And righties actually think hes fighting for them? Lol when he wont even fight for his own son?
To be fair, many fathers would have disowned trumpy jr a long time ago, cut their losses.
Quote: SOOPOOPLEASE DEMS...... nominate a moderate who can beat him..... and move the country back to its happy center.....
The Democrats should nominate the candidate who would be the best leader, best represent our country, provide the best vision for our country, and work for America, not against us. This should be done regardless of the ability to persuade delusional voters. We're in this mess because the Republicans decided it was best to ignore those values and put winning an election above their own country
Quote: mcallister3200False, we are mostly here because the dems were arrogant enough to put up Hillary and a socialist.
And that explains why you chose Trump over 16 other republican candidates with better values
Because of Hillary
Right!!!
Keep up the excuses
Quote: darkozWell OUR PRESIDENT has now proclaimed there was collusion between his son Donald and the Russians
But hey thats totally legal (like why werent you just admitting it before if thats the case)
His latest tweet:
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!
8:35 AM - Aug 5, 2018
Notice his last sentence - I did not know about it
Wow. So if it turns out collusion (synonym - conspiracy) is a crime Daddy makes sure only son knew so daddy doesn't go to jail
Throws his own son under the bus (just confessed for him) with spurious legal argument while still shielding himself
What type of coward does that to his own child?
And righties actually think hes fighting for them? Lol when he wont even fight for his own son?
A Narcissist’s Prayer
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did…
You deserved it.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/08/06/trump-accuses-california-of-causing-wildfires-by-diverting-water-to-pacific/23496606/
Quote: darkozWonderful to wake up to this genius logic
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/08/06/trump-accuses-california-of-causing-wildfires-by-diverting-water-to-pacific/23496606/
I 'think' what he is trying to say...... California has laws in place that limit how much water can be used from any source for any particular purpose. Thus limiting availability to firefighters. (Article states it's untrue anyway). And he means that the water not used for the firefighting from a river does eventually flow into the Pacific. His use of the word 'diverted' is an error.
I try and rephrase Trumpisms to reflect his policy ideas if he wasn't a doofus. Here goes
I feel bad for all the residents of California affected by the wildfires. There are some laws in California with regards to water management that may be contributing to the difficulty in fighting these fires. As well, there could've been some trees cleared at the boundaries of these fires that may have been able to limit the extent of the fires, but there are laws in California that prevented these trees from being cleared. Citizens of California need to carefully consider the impact that some well-meaning laws have on public safety.
Quote: SOOPOOPLEASE DEMS...... nominate a moderate who can beat him..... and move the country back to its happy center.....
I’m just curious who you would consider to be a moderate Dem that could satisfy your wish?
Quote: ams288I’m just curious who you would consider to be a moderate Dem that could satisfy your wish?
I'm not Soopoo, but take a look at Amy Klobuchar. She's not a socialist. Joe Biden is another moderate.
Quote: SOOPOOI 'think' what he is trying to say...... California has laws in place that limit how much water can be used from any source for any particular purpose. Thus limiting availability to firefighters. (Article states it's untrue anyway). And he means that the water not used for the firefighting from a river does eventually flow into the Pacific. His use of the word 'diverted' is an error.
I try and rephrase Trumpisms to reflect his policy ideas if he wasn't a doofus. Here goes
I feel bad for all the residents of California affected by the wildfires. There are some laws in California with regards to water management that may be contributing to the difficulty in fighting these fires. As well, there could've been some trees cleared at the boundaries of these fires that may have been able to limit the extent of the fires, but there are laws in California that prevented these trees from being cleared. Citizens of California need to carefully consider the impact that some well-meaning laws have on public safety.
Well intentioned stupidity (in our nations leader) is dangerous
Trump rarely seems well intentioned though
Quote: darkozWell OUR PRESIDENT has now proclaimed there was collusion between his son Donald and the Russians
Yep. The President of the United States has public admitted that his campaign colluded with a foreign nation to beat an opponent in an election.
That was the whole point of his constant proclamation that "collusion is not a crime!" He was trying to brainwash his believers into thinking he did nothing wrong.
But this merely raises the question, if collusion is not a crime, why have you been lying about meeting with Russia for a year and a half and saying "No collusion! No collusion!"?
Who the f*** still believes a word this man says?
Quote: SOOPOO
I'm sorry, but how can OUR President make such an immature statement? There is policy and humanity, and both are important. You can argue about his policies, but I want my President to not behave like an immature high schooler. I don't care about Stormy. I believe Russia, Russia, Russia is nothing. I'm not sure about tariffs. But I want my President to not act like a petulant child.
I've been saying that for over a year now, but his base doesn't care. They only care that he "pisses off the libs."
Quote: TomGWe're in this mess because the Republicans decided it was best to ignore those values and put winning an election above their own country
Mess?
Is that the latest crap from the masters? Because the facts don’t support it.
3.9 million jobs created in the past 19 months.
6.6 million more jobs than there are people to fill them. A historic event when it first occurred. Now even more historic at four months in a row.
Unemployment rate down to 3.9%.
80% of corporations in the S&P reported Q2 earnings above estimates. That is the highest percentage of corporations reporting positive earnings surprise since the metric was first tracked in 2008.
Wage growth slightly higher than inflation. Worker pay rate hits highest level since 2008.
More people with disabilities getting jobs due to the tight labor market.
Unemployment in every demographic, except females, down to historic lowest levels ever. Females have the lowest unemployment level in 65 years.
Quote: TankoMess?
Is that the latest crap from the masters? Because the facts don’t support it.
So the S&P is up and unemployment is down. That's been the trend for almost a decade now. Unemployment dropped every year that Obama was President. The markets were up even higher, percentage-wise, under Obama than they are under Trump. These numbers are nothing new or surprising.
And there's more to life than just unemployment numbers, so I don't know why you've focused almost entirely on that one little piece of the puzzle to make your point.
Quote: ams288Finally, some good news!
The NRA Says It’s in Deep Financial Trouble, May Be ‘Unable to Exist’
I'm starting to really understand why a bunch of middle age right wingers are being driven bats*** crazy by an 18-year-old kid from Florida, because he's getting results!
What's the over/under on the size of the check the NY DFS is going to have to write to the NRA in settlement of this lawsuit?
If only that were true....
https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/06/technology/facebook-infowars-alex-jones/index.html
This is good news and long overdue. Trump said he deserves a Pulitzer, lol.
“Collusion with Russia was very real. Hillary Clinton and her team 100% colluded with the Russians, and so did Adam Schiff who is on tape trying to collude with what he thought was Russians to obtain compromising material on DJT. We also know that Hillary Clinton paid through....a law firm, eventually Kremlin connected sources, to gather info on Donald Trump. Collusion is very real with Russia, but only with Hillary and the Democrats, and we should demand a full investigation.” Dan Bongino on @foxandfriends Looking forward to the new IG Report!
WTF is going on in this man's brain...
He literally admits on Twitter that his campaign colluded with Russia but yet it's totally legal and normal, and then hours later starts talking about how his campaign DIDN'T collude with Russia, but Clinton's did, so she should be investigated?
How has he not been diagnosed with a mental illness yet?
Similar to when Sarah Palin said "I'm thinking about running for president, so donate to me!" then she kept all the donations and didn't run....Quote: TigerWu...Don't believe it. It's a marketing stunt designed to pull in more money/members. The NRA is playing its base like a fiddle.
This is so sad... and pathetic, and why I say america is itself a sh&thole country.Quote: lilredrooster𝐋𝐎𝐂𝐊 𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐔𝐏 - 𝐋𝐎𝐂𝐊 𝐇𝐄𝐑 𝐔𝐏 - he screams
his parents trained him to hate very well
"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering..." - Yoda
Yeah, but trump doesn't know when to dump a bad investment... he just runs it in to the ground and files bankruptcy. I wonder if he thinks that's really what happens with his children too...Quote: mcallister3200To be fair, many fathers would have disowned trumpy jr a long time ago, cut their losses.
These two look like they have half a brain between them.
Quote:WASHINGTON — The Trump administration could potentially waste billions of dollars on a border wall because it failed to fully account for factors like varying terrain and land ownership along the Southwest border, according to a new report.
The report, conducted by the Government Accountability Office, found that Customs and Border Protection, the agency responsible for construction of the wall, did not consider the cost of building along each segment of the border, which can vary depending on factors such as topography and land ownership.
The report also found that the agency selected locations for barriers without fully assessing where they were needed to prevent illegal border crossings.
“Without assessing costs, consistent with leading practices for capital decision making, C.B.P. does not have complete information for prioritizing locations to use its resources in the most cost-effective manner,” the report said.
It added that the Department of Homeland Security “faces an increased risk that the Border Wall System Program will cost more than projected, take longer than planned or not fully perform as expected.”
MAGA
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump’s-border-wall-could-waste-billions-of-dollars-report-says/ar-BBLA8vS?ocid=spartanntp
Quote: rxwineMAGA
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump’s-border-wall-could-waste-billions-of-dollars-report-says/ar-BBLA8vS?ocid=spartanntp
When are we getting the money from Mexico to pay for it?
I'm still waiting for Iraq to send us a check for blowing there country all to Hell.Quote: TigerWuWhen are we getting the money from Mexico to pay for it?
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm not Soopoo, but take a look at Amy Klobuchar. She's not a socialist. Joe Biden is another moderate.
I've mentioned Klobuchar in a previous post as an example. To be fair to ams, there are only a few. Biden doesn't fit my bill because he is just too old. Most of my problems with HRC were that she was handed everything, did little of note other than being a famous wife, and did not succeed at her political few jobs that were essentially handed to her. But I think HRC would be looked upon as a moderate now.
Quote: SOOPOOI've mentioned Klobuchar in a previous post as an example. To be fair to ams, there are only a few. Biden doesn't fit my bill because he is just too old. Most of my problems with HRC were that she was handed everything, did little of note other than being a famous wife, and did not succeed at her political few jobs that were essentially handed to her. But I think HRC would be looked upon as a moderate now.
Strange views
Trump - born into money. Avoids vietnam. Handed a million dollars (in 1970s) Handed millions after multiple bankruptcies. Never held political office
HRC - graduates law school, makes her money thru speeches and books, is elected NYS senator and holds secretary of state position for number of years
And you feel it was HRC thst wasnt qualified because everything was handed to her
Quote: billryanThe flap in NY seems to be over the NRA wanting to offer insurance that would protect members in the event a member is charged with illegal activities involving a gun. NY prevents insurance to cover illegal acts.
Not quite...Here is an article since you didn't read the court filing: Is New York Using Bank Regulation to Suppress Speech?
NY DFS is telling banks in NY not to open checking accounts for the NRA...unless they want to feel the wrath of additional investigation/regulatory inquiries. This will be ugly for NY DFS it if gets in front of a jury. You can't threaten/restrict banks and other financial institutions from conducting lawful business...and that is clearly what NY DFS has done. Cuomo is off the rails here...wait for big settlement check to be issued to NRA. They have the $$ and wherewithal to fight and what Cuomo doesn't realize is that there will be a portion of the ant-gunner side of the spectrum that will agree this type of government intervention isn't OK...even if they hate guns & the NRA.
Quote: ParadigmNot quite...Here is an article since you didn't read the court filing: Is New York Using Bank Regulation to Suppress Speech?
NY DFS is telling banks in NY not to open checking accounts for the NRA...unless they want to feel the wrath of additional investigation/regulatory inquiries. This will be ugly for NY DFS it if gets in front of a jury. You can't threaten/restrict banks and other financial institutions from conducting lawful business...and that is clearly what NY DFS has done. Cuomo is off the rails here...wait for big settlement check to be issued to NRA. They have the $$ and wherewithal to fight and what Cuomo doesn't realize is that there will be a portion of the ant-gunner side of the spectrum that will agree this type of government intervention isn't OK...even if they hate guns & the NRA.
Okay Dokey. Pull another string or two and I'm sure a naked George Soros will be revealed.
Quote: SOOPOOI've mentioned Klobuchar in a previous post as an example. To be fair to ams, there are only a few. Biden doesn't fit my bill because he is just too old. Most of my problems with HRC were that she was handed everything, did little of note other than being a famous wife, and did not succeed at her political few jobs that were essentially handed to her. But I think HRC would be looked upon as a moderate now.
She's totally a moderate. So was WJC. They both did a lot of work with Republican ideas and Republicans who were willing to find compromises and evolve legislation rather than stand in their respective corners, middle fingers raised.
In fact, if you go back and look at a lot of the 90s, Gingrich and the other Republicans were pissed because Clinton agreed with and put Presidential weight behind many of their best ideas. They wanted opposition, they got co-opted and confounded.
I agree that Joe us old. Too old, though, IDK. He has a way of living young. He would have won in 2016, too, because he is authentic and working-class loves him.
He would win in 2020 unless his health deteriorated sharply before then, unless he chose a totally poison-pill VP.
Two choices, commit perjury or throw his son under the bus instead.
Quote: billryanQuote: ParadigmNot quite...Here is an article since you didn't read the court filing: Is New York Using Bank Regulation to Suppress Speech?
NY DFS is telling banks in NY not to open checking accounts for the NRA...unless they want to feel the wrath of additional investigation/regulatory inquiries. This will be ugly for NY DFS it if gets in front of a jury. You can't threaten/restrict banks and other financial institutions from conducting lawful business...and that is clearly what NY DFS has done. Cuomo is off the rails here...wait for big settlement check to be issued to NRA. They have the $$ and wherewithal to fight and what Cuomo doesn't realize is that there will be a portion of the ant-gunner side of the spectrum that will agree this type of government intervention isn't OK...even if they hate guns & the NRA.
Okay Dokey. Pull another string or two and I'm sure a naked George Soros will be revealed.
Wow BR...nice intellectual response...I realize this is your best effort based on what you’re working with and understanding facts is hard sometimes...carry on.
here comes 𝐐𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐧
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/what-is-qanon.html
Prosecutor: "Did you commit crimes and conspire to commit crimes with Paul Manafort"
Rick Gates: "Yes"
Further testimony disclosed:
Falsifying tax returns
Money laundering
Arranging for payments to be made to Russian oligarchs that Manafort owed millions too
Lots of juicy stuff
Quote: TigerWuSo the S&P is up and unemployment is down. That's been the trend for almost a decade now. Unemployment dropped every year that Obama was President. The markets were up even higher, percentage-wise, under Obama than they are under Trump. These numbers are nothing new or surprising.
And there's more to life than just unemployment numbers, so I don't know why you've focused almost entirely on that one little piece of the puzzle to make your point.
You missed the point. My response was not a comparison of administrations.
The point is, there is no ‘mess’.
What you refer to as ‘ a little piece of the puzzle’, is the most important piece of all. The economy.
As far as the recovery, those numbers you mention followed one of the worst recessions in history. They had nowhere else to go, but up. They always do. Especially when the recovery was debt driven, where they borrowed $4.5 trillion to spend $4.5 trillion.
GDP growth was down in 2015, and down again in 2016, to 1.84%. In the first quarter of 2017, GDP only increased at an annual rate of 0.7%. Which could have led to three years of declining GDP growth. So, no, the numbers were not impressive.
But, we can focus on other things.
Trump is the first president since Eisenhower who hasn’t gotten us involved in a new war.
The Nobel peace prize winner bombed seven countries during his administration.
He caused the rise of Isis in Iraq, and got us involved in civil wars in Libya, Ukraine and Syria, with disastrous results.
Thanks to his mistakes, Russia annexed Crimea, and has a permanent naval base in Syria.
