Trump's Second and Third year in office
Yes I know, you guys were practically holding hands by the end.Quote: billryanThe game just wasn't developing. I gave it a few rounds and lost interest. Nothing to do with Max. We recently ended up playing side by side for an extended period and it was fine.
I just like giving people with 2 first names a hard time. Someone once told me you have to carefully watch the 2 first name guy. ;-)
obama had a 45% at the exact same time in that first term.
10% better if you like your percentages by percentage.
Keep your head in the sand if you want to, but it's just gonna be dark for the next 10.5 years.
Quote: Maverick17YOUR PRESIDENT has a 50% approval rating from likely voters via a liberal thinktank Rasmussen Report.
obama had a 45% at the exact same time in that first term.
10% better if you like your percentages by percentage.
Keep your head in the sand if you want to, but it's just gonna be dark for the next 10.5 years.
Was Obama YOUR PRESIDENT too?
If you believe census data, 17% of America is Hispanic. Certainly all Hispanics don't vote, but if 1/3 do vote (roughly the average for the population of America) that is over a million and a half voters who will not only be voting FOR YOUR PRESIDENT, but not voting for a 3 time loser in #lockherup and whoever else runs in 2024 vs YOUR PRESIDENT.
3m person swing. And it has not even been 2 years.
Can you imagine if the press was only 75% against YOUR PRESIDENT vs the current 90% what the results would be?
Can you imagine if the press spoke fairly in general about YOUR PRESIDENT? It could be the first time in the history of statistics the margin of error would be the opposition view?
Quote: Maverick17YOUR PRESIDENT has a 50% approval rating from likely voters via a liberal thinktank Rasmussen Report.
Did you seriously just call Rasmussen a liberal think tank?
Who do you think you’re fooling?
Quote: Maverick17Hispanics, according to a recent Harvard (another liberal pollster) poll have shifted their views on YOUR PRESIDENT, citing a 10% uptick in support.
If you believe census data, 17% of America is Hispanic. Certainly all Hispanics don't vote, but if 1/3 do vote (roughly the average for the population of America) that is over a million and a half voters who will not only be voting FOR YOUR PRESIDENT, but not voting for a 3 time loser in #lockherup and whoever else runs in 2024 vs YOUR PRESIDENT.
3m person swing. And it has not even been 2 years.
Can you imagine if the press was only 75% against YOUR PRESIDENT vs the current 90% what the results would be?
Can you imagine if the press spoke fairly in general about YOUR PRESIDENT? It could be the first time in the history of statistics the margin of error would be the opposition view?
Like your tag, you're apparently willing to be deceptive. Rasmussen is not a "liberal think tank". Clinton is not running. 3m swing towards Trump is a fantasy, which i don't know where you even get that .
The media is not 90% against Trump. He's the easiest idiot ever to cover: all he does is open his mouth and lies and contradictions come out. They just point a camera and a microphone and let the circus clown dance.
Hispanics HATE Trump with the scorn of proud people against a bigot and a bully. No idea what you're quoting or how the questions were asked, but I hope he DOES have to rely on them to get re-elected; he will fail even worse than he expects.
Quote: beachbumbabsLike your tag, you're apparently willing to be deceptive. Rasmussen is not a "liberal think tank". Clinton is not running. 3m swing towards Trump is a fantasy, which i don't know where you even get that .
The media is not 90% against Trump. He's the easiest idiot ever to cover: all he does is open his mouth and lies and contradictions come out. They just point a camera and a microphone and let the circus clown dance.
Hispanics HATE Trump with the scorn of proud people against a bigot and a bully. No idea what you're quoting or how the questions were asked, but I hope he DOES have to rely on them to get re-elected; he will fail even worse than he expects.
Maverick is not wrong about support for YOUR PRESIDENT being higher than it should be. Voters are suffering from news fatigue and are getting used to the daily Presidential gaff-fest and accepting the new normal.
But it doesn't matter. Americans will vote with their pocketbooks and ignore their conscious. The economy is doing more than well. No one in the middle cares enough about the deficit, climate change, foreign policy, or immigration to swing their vote. Evangelicals will vote from him, and the left will need to come up with someone more appetising than Hillary and that person has not materialised yet.
Quote: boymimboMaverick is not wrong about support for YOUR PRESIDENT being higher than it should be. Voters are suffering from news fatigue and are getting used to the daily Presidential gaff-fest and accepting the new normal.
From Russia?
LOL, Do you have a President, I think not due to your comment. YOUR LEADER Is Putin right?
Anyway, with your logic. The Orange moron is 10 points higher then he should be due to the foxnews lovefest
By the way, were you alright with Hannity saying not my President when Obama was President?
Quote: boymimboneed to come up with someone more appetising than Hillary and that person has not materialised yet. [/q
lol
Quote: RS
Hey man, I think it's a felony to have a sig line that long. {that's what she said)
Quote: rxwineHey man, I think it's a felony to have a sig line that long. {that's what she said)
I think it's okay, but needs more exclamation points!
Quote: RSI worked with a Hispanic guy and you couldn’t get him to stop talking about Trump, build the wall, and all that good stuff.
So you know ONE Hispanic guy who likes Trump?
Arent we on a forum where everyone touts that one anomaly isnt enough to draw any conclusions on?
Quote: Maverick17YOUR PRESIDENT has a 50% approval rating from likely voters via a liberal thinktank Rasmussen Report.
Rasmussen is one of the least accurate major polls, and is well-known for having a conservative bias.
YOUR PRESIDENT currently has an aggregate approval rating of barely 41%, which makes him one of the most unpopular Presidents since WWII.
Quote: RS
I worked with a Hispanic guy and you couldn’t get him to stop talking about Trump, build the wall, and all that good stuff.
Quote: darkozSo you know ONE Hispanic guy who likes Trump?
Arent we on a forum where everyone touts that one anomaly isnt enough to draw any conclusions on?
I also don't get the point of RS's post
I know a southern redneck that hates Trump
Overall as meaningless as RS's Hispanic lol
Quote: TigerWuRasmussen is one of the least accurate major polls, and is well-known for having a conservative bias.
YOUR PRESIDENT currently has an aggregate approval rating of barely 41%, which makes him one of the most unpopular Presidents since WWII.
HMM
The way Maverick posts, I don't think Trump is his president
Hey Maverick, what is YOUR LEADER PUTIN telling Trump what to do
Quote: terapinedHMM
The way Maverick posts, I don't think Trump is his president
Hey Maverick, what is YOUR LEADER PUTIN telling Trump what to do
We should look and see if Maverick has done any trip reports to Russian casinos....
Quote: RSI worked with a Hispanic guy and you couldn’t get him to stop talking about Trump, build the wall, and all that good stuff.
Come on RS, post the video
Just like jackpots on this forum
No video or pic then its probably a fake Hispanic lol
Quote: TigerWuWe should look and see if Maverick has done any trip reports to Russian casinos....
I don't understand why he doesn't insist we refer to congress as YOUR CONGRESS. Lots of people don't respect them either, but they are still YOUR CONGRESS.
Quote: darkozSo you know ONE Hispanic guy who likes Trump?
Arent we on a forum where everyone touts that one anomaly isnt enough to draw any conclusions on?
I’m not drawing any conclusions, but weren’t people talking about Hispanics voting for Trump and how they supposedly hate Trump? This sounds like early 2016 again with people saying “he has no chance”.
Quote: terapinedCome on RS, post the video
Just like jackpots on this forum
No video or pic then its probably a fake Hispanic lol
I said I worked with the guy. You know, like real life? Not some YouTuber or internet persona.
Quote: boymimboMaverick is not wrong about support for YOUR PRESIDENT being higher than it should be. Voters are suffering from news fatigue and are getting used to the daily Presidential gaff-fest and accepting the new normal.
But it doesn't matter. Americans will vote with their pocketbooks and ignore their conscious. The economy is doing more than well. No one in the middle cares enough about the deficit, climate change, foreign policy, or immigration to swing their vote. Evangelicals will vote from him, and the left will need to come up with someone more appetising than Hillary and that person has not materialised yet.
Ding Ding Ding...Boymimbo speaks the truth here.
Acosta and the rest of the left leaning media just can't get out of their own way with cries of lies, falsehoods & outrage...NEWFLASH: everyone has figured out that Trump says/tweets ridiculousness. The fact that the ridiculousness rarely turns into actionable policy that is unpopular is a bit of an inconvenient truth for the media...but Jim & Co can't see that forest through the trees and have lost all credibility by getting down in the mud with this Administration using their own exaggerated claims of malfeasance & hyperbole. Hey Jim, swing voters aren't listening to you/CNN/MSNBC because you all come off just as tainted of a source as the President's Twitter account...how the hell did you let that happen?
The Mueller investigation has come up with nothing on Trump directly in the 15 months of investigation. The swing vote doesn't care about Manafort, Cohen, paying off porn star bed partners or 12 Russians, I mean I get the outrage on this thread, but swing voter doesn't care. Those Americans go to work each day, are making more than they used to make, their home values are going up, they see a booming economy with other work opportunities available if they want a change jobs...you know the stupid stuff that impacts their daily lives. Not this important stuff like how many idiots listened to their Russian fed FB feeds to decide how to vote.
The delay of getting something concrete on Trump out of the Mueller investigation only hurts the chances that anything revealed will be taken seriously. It took Ken Starr 4 years to release a report on the Clintons and by then America didn't care despite the gnashing of teeth and hand wringing of the conservative media outlets, they were ignored then and Jim & Co will be ignored now. I mean I get it, everyone here will be glued...but you all are irrelevant when it comes to predicting election outcomes or the mindset of average Americans.
The tariffs are a horrible economic end game, but politically a brilliant move to firm up votes in Michigan/Ohio/PA and the rest of the rust belt. Trump can take the damage to middle American farmers...do you really think that middle America is going to flip Blue based on falling ag prices? The states may be more pink than red if the economic damage is severe enough, but Blue won't pick up any electoral college votes. The tariffs are transitory in duration and will be a distant memory come 2020. The end game will be new trade deals that will be subjectively judged as better or worse for America, depending on who you ask. Trump will triumphantly Tweet the new trade deals as part of his pathway to MAGA and the Dems/Acosta/Left biased media will once again come out looking like opposing tainted sources of information. No one with a brain will believe either Trump's Tweets or CNN's bashing of how the new deals accomplished nothing in the end but damage to farmers, the American consumer in higher prices, etc.
But I know your work here is important....500+ pages on this thread just scratches the surface of the task at hand...America is listening so carry on.
Quote: RSI’m not drawing any conclusions, but weren’t people talking about Hispanics voting for Trump and how they supposedly hate Trump? This sounds like early 2016 again with people saying “he has no chance”.
Yeah, I’m with ya. He definitely has a real chance which signifies something that’s disappointing:
That Americans could possibly accept this horrific human being as our POTUS, somebody who mocks disabled, brags about his cock in a presidential debate, sympathizes with racists, and while maybe possibly could be not sure racist himself?, he is most definitevly a racist OPPORTUNIST, which is even more dangerous than actual racism because it pits people biases vs each other and DIVIDES us even further, somebody who pays off porn stars, somebody who STIFFS the small business guy, the people that he said he was lmao fighting for in the campaign, somebody who is a complete f**king douche bag on Twitter and acts like a child, somebody who is OBVIOUSLY hiding something from the American public with regards to taxes (and he’s the guy you want making decisions on YOUR taxes?), somebody who is so dishonest and sleazy that he calls up magazines and pretends to be his own publicist, somebody who moves on married women like bitches (if our POTUS can say it so can I), somebody who calls other countries with thousands of years of culture and great people shitholes, somebody who lies on a secondly basis, somebody who disparages a real American war hero while claiming bone spurs when it was his turn to serve his country, somebody who disparages Gold Star families, somebody who disrespects our own intelligence agencies on foreign soil in front of a “competitor”, the same competitor who directly ordered the cyber attacks that divided our country, and really, this has to be said, I mean seriously,
Who grabs a p**sy anyway?
So when the press reports on all this, Donald trump seriously has almost half the country believing that HE, AND ONLY HE, is the truth teller. HALF. LOL HALF??? And everything the press is reporting is FAKE! HALF???
Does he have a chance to win re-election? Oh man, absolutely.
Dude is very good at what he does.
It may not reflect the people on this forum. But Trump knows that 2020 lays again with the samea path as 2016. And those people whom voted for him now are getting their promises. Those people in OH, MI, WI, MN, IN and NC dont care about immigraion, foreign relations, ormclimate change. They want jobs and rising wages and Trump's targeted tariffs makes it appear that these states are being looked after. The states that do care about these issues are blue already with no chance of going red. And with voter suppression out there the black urban vote gets minimized in Detroit and Cleveland.
Yes the main stream media is actually right to come up with all of those trump stories and they are likely factually correct in content and probably importance too. But for the voters in the middle thet just don't care enough or have turned out. And that is by trump's brilliant design, to deflect and distract, just like his comrades at Fox does.
The only thing that will turn the tide against Trump is a collusion charge, but far more damaging is a downturn in the economy. But given nobody is caring about the meaning of the word deficit and public debt (which should be a top issue given rising interest rates is costing the government 25% more in debt servicing every time it raises its rate a quarter point) Trump will just keep spending his way through 2020 and delay the downturn until someone decides to reduce spending. The GOP isn't doing that and the Dems can't do that unless they pick up a majority in at least one house.
I am not siding with the Donald here. But the left needs to face some cold hard facts which is that if the narrative doesn't change Trump will win in 2020. And the lamestream media, too distracted by the all caps twitterstorms in the wee hours of the morning drowning out the stories and analysis that really should matter but most Americans don't care about.
Quote: RSI’m not drawing any conclusions, but weren’t people talking about Hispanics voting for Trump and how they supposedly hate Trump? This sounds like early 2016 again with people saying “he has no chance”.
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People were talking about a majority of Hispanics against Trump
Nobody said 100%.
No doubt Trump has thousands of Hispanic supporters just as he has thousands of Black supporters
come on RS
Common sense
Had a deadhead friend that proudly wore his "Bring back Nixon" button to Grateful Dead shows.
Different strokes for different folks
Quote: Steverinos
Dude is very good at what he does.
I kind of disagree.
He's not good at anything. He's just lucky. I mean, everyone can see what an incompetent buffoon he is just by looking at his twitter feed alone.
He's a once in a century fluke of a man, a slightly-below-average person who lucked his way into the Presidency of the United States.
Being born a wealthy elitist gives someone a huge lead in the luck department.
If he wasn't born rich, if the Trumps were never a wealthy family, he would be working middle management at a department store in Iowa somewhere, or selling crappy insurance and annuities to vulnerable senior citizens.
He's not a success story. He's just a perfect example of how money can take anyone far in life.
Quote: beachbumbabs
Hispanics HATE Trump with the scorn of proud people against a bigot and a bully. No idea what you're quoting or how the questions were asked, but I hope he DOES have to rely on them to get re-elected; he will fail even worse than he expects.
This rhetoric is why one of the most liberal universities in the world say an additional 10% of Hispanics LOVE YOUR PRESIDENT.
So out of touch with minorities in this country. Unable to see the forest for the trees. Millions and Millions of trees. and the rotted out carcass of the #lockherup stump is all those eyes can see.
Quote: TigerWuRasmussen is one of the least accurate major polls, and is well-known for having a conservative bias.
YOUR PRESIDENT currently has an aggregate approval rating of barely 41%, which makes him one of the most unpopular Presidents since WWII.
a link to a dopey website that says YOUR PRESIDENT has never *been* approved of is obviously valid.
Because YOUR PRESIDENT really didn't win, did He? {I need the emoji that slams her hand on the table as she is uncontrollably laughing HERE}
Quote: Maverick17a link to a dopey website that says YOUR PRESIDENT has never approved of is obviously valid.
Because YOUR PRESIDENT really didn't win, did He? {I need the emoji that slams her hand on the table as she is uncontrollably laughing HERE}
Hey, comrade, might want to double-check your Russian-to-English translation software. You're not making any sense.
how is your liberal "hero" Steph Clifford doing?
Remember when I was fake suspended for calling her, amongst other whores, out for being exactly what she is, a money grabbing hooker?
Turns out, your good buddy Mav was right yet again.
When 10.5 more years of YOUR PRESIDENT is written in these hallowed threads, it's not a joke.
YOUR PRESIDENT may be the luckiest man ever in the history of the universe (He is not btw, He's just smart and willing to outwork His competition), so why not another decade plus of a Man who is already a top 5 President in US History!
MAGA
Quote: TigerWuHey, comrade, might want to double-check your Russian-to-English translation software. You're not making any sense.
added a single missed word for you.
Can I ask if you need translation software? or would that imply you are stupid, and therefore be an insult?
Or is it okay for you to insult because you think you are funny when you when you insult people?
Or is it okay because green names get to do the same thing you do, and there is no recourse?
Just wondering out loud
How is Trump going to be President for 10 1/2 more years? Not only is that Constitutionally impossible, he'll be lucky if he doesn't drop dead of a heart attack before his first term is up.
You crack me up, Comrade Maverick.
Quote: Steverinos
Does he have a chance to win re-election? Oh man, absolutely.
Dude is very good at what he does.
One has to figure out what Trump is really weak at as a person, and an opposing candidate has to willingly accept and embody it in order to disarm Trump.
In other words, you don't need a candidate to call Trump a liar, you need a candidate that is quick to admit he or she has also lied, and is repentant and tries to do better every day.
When Trump greatly exaggerates a claim, you need a candidate to stress that his/her claim is real world and show that it is not going to be exaggerated and even show the possible faults, and a corollary to this when Trump brags about himself accomplishing this or that, you need a candidate who brags about what other people accomplished even leaving him/herself out of it.
When Trump sides with Dictators and strong men, you need a candidate seeking out peacemakers and people fighting for democracy in resistance or even jailed democracy advocates and talking about them instead.
When Trump talks about open borders, stealing jobs, the opposing candidate doesn't attack him but is meeting the successful DACA kids personally and every positive effect they have done. Show the positive side of the situation. It always has one.
And if Trump is talking about the economy, if it is good at the time, don't make false claims. but go higher, not lower. Do like Kennedy. Go higher. In the vein of "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." and similar aspirations. Life is more than work.
...and so forth. That's how you take down this Trump, IMO. You certainly don't play his game unless you know you are better at it.
Quote: Maverick17added a single missed word for you.
Can I ask if you need translation software?
I would if I wasn't speaking English.
Quote:or would that imply you are stupid, and therefore be an insult?
No, it wouldn't mean I was stupid. It would just mean I didn't have a firm grasp of the language I was trying to speak.
Quote:Or is it okay for you to insult because you think you are funny when you when you insult people?
Who am I, Don Rickles?
Quote:Or is it okay because green names get to do the same thing you do, and there is no recourse?
What "green names" do is no concern of mine.
Quote: terapined???????????????????????
People were talking about a majority of Hispanics against Trump
Nobody said 100%.
No doubt Trump has thousands of Hispanic supporters just as he has thousands of Black supporters
come on RS
Common sense
Had a deadhead friend that proudly wore his "Bring back Nixon" button to Grateful Dead shows.
Different strokes for different folks
Sorry for writing "people talking about Hispanics" when I
should have written "people talking about a MAJORITY of Hispanics".
Ya got me there, terapined.
Well done! rofl
yawn :)
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When did I say anything about 100%? How about reading what I write instead of just reading what you want?
Quote: rxwineOne has to figure out what Trump is really weak at as a person, and an opposing candidate has to willingly accept and embody it in order to disarm Trump.
In other words, you don't need a candidate to call Trump a liar, you need a candidate that is quick to admit he or she has also lied, and is repentant and tries to do better every day.
When Trump greatly exaggerates a claim, you need a candidate to stress that his/her claim is real world and show that it is not going to be exaggerated and even show the possible faults, and a corollary to this when Trump brags about himself accomplishing this or that, you need a candidate who brags about what other people accomplished even leaving him/herself out of it.
When Trump sides with Dictators and strong men, you need a candidate seeking out peacemakers and people fighting for democracy in resistance or even jailed democracy advocates and talking about them instead.
When Trump talks about open borders, stealing jobs, the opposing candidate doesn't attack him but is meeting the successful DACA kids personally and every positive effect they have done. Show the positive side of the situation. It always has one.
And if Trump is talking about the economy, if it is good at the time, don't make false claims. but go higher, not lower. Do like Kennedy. Go higher. In the vein of "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." and similar aspirations. Life is more than work.
...and so forth. That's how you take down this Trump, IMO. You certainly don't play his game unless you know you are better at it.
This could work...just not sure DNC is smart enuf...not when they believe a 28 year old former bartender/socialist is the future direction of the party
Quote: TigerWuMaverick, if you just say the words that you are not Russian and speak English as a primary language, then I will owe you a public apology for accusing you of such.
I know essentially nothing about anyone on this board.
You are saying I can say anything I want about anyone on this board, (as long as I don't already know it isn't true) and I merely have to apologize if and when that person says it does not apply to them?
Pretty sure that's not the rules
Quote: Maverick17I know essentially nothing about anyone on this board.
You are saying I can say anything I want about anyone on this board, (as long as I don't already know it isn't true) and I merely have to apologize if and when that person says it does not apply to them?
Pretty sure that's not the rules
Well, here's what I know:
You're not American, otherwise you would be saying things like OUR PRESIDENT instead of YOUR PRESIDENT. You've been asked about and called out on this point multiple times and you haven't disputed it (as far as I know).
Secondly, some of your posts are barely coherent, and don't follow logically with what you're responding to. Hence my accusation that English is not your first language.
However, from this point forward I will cease any theorizing about you personally, and only respond specifically to points made in your posts.
Quote: Maverick17I know essentially nothing about anyone on this board.
If that's the case
Why do you use the term "Your President" for an international membership
There is no planetary President
I think Zuga, one of the admins and I think owner or works for the owner, lives in Eastern Europe
Not everybody on this forum lives in the USA
It really doesn't matter where you pillow your head, President Trump is YOUR PRESIDENT.
Quote: Maverick17YOUR PRESIDENT is commonly referred to the Leader of the free world.
It really doesn't matter where you pillow your head, President Trump is YOUR PRESIDENT.
But is he YOUR PRESIDENT?
To be more clear so you dont fudge the answer
Is Donald Trump the President of the WOV member known with the screenname Maverick?
Quote: darkozBut is he YOUR PRESIDENT?
To be more clear so you dont fudge the answer
Is Donald Trump the President of the WOV member known with the screenname Maverick?
So close yet so far away.
Trump is my president.
#MAGA
Quote: Dalex64I thought Angela Merkel was the leader of the free world.
There is no free world now that everyone has to pay tariffs
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