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April 16th, 2018 at 12:33:38 PM permalink
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Crap I can't find a youtube vid or a gif of Jeremy Jamm on Parks and Rec...

So your research for that clip... got jammed?
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April 16th, 2018 at 12:47:14 PM permalink
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Coffee and tea is good for flavor, and those are basically just water, too.

Heck no! Dozens of complex anti-oxidants in each. Catechins and Epicatechins in Green Tea are not only relaxing but they stimulate fat burning.
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April 16th, 2018 at 1:02:57 PM permalink
Coffee also prevents liver problems, they think. Even decaf. But you have to drink a lot.

Good news for those of us with mis- spent yoots.
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April 16th, 2018 at 3:41:46 PM permalink
I agree with almost everything that has been posted in the past week or so (exception: ZK)

- dried fruit is a great high-energy snack for hiking, etc. Just like candy and nuts. But its not a good food to gorge on as if it is one of the five food groups.

- cooling eggs after boiling them makes them easier to peel. It is because of differential thermal expansion/contraction. I.e., upon quenching in cold water the egg shell does not contract as much as the egg such that the albumen shrinks and 'parts' from the egg shell. However if the egg is allowed to slowly cool, the albumen does not part from the shell.

- eating healthy does indeed require a decision to live differently.

However, just want to say this: fructose has a chemical effect on the brain that dextrose and sucrose do not. Fructose makes you want to eat more, whereas other sugars do not. Eat a chocolate bar and after awhile it is easy to stop. Eat processed foods that have high-fructose corn syrup as a component and you want to eat and eat and eat. There is an obvious commercial incentive for fast food chains and processed food providers (like Kraft) to use fructose syrup as a sweetener. But they are partially responsible for the obesity epidemic in the United States.
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April 17th, 2018 at 4:52:53 AM permalink
Today's news item:
Coffee as bad and linked to unusual cardiac rthyms acknowledged to be ultraconservative guff utterly unsupported by the evidence.
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April 17th, 2018 at 7:46:25 AM permalink
Any other opinions on the low/no carbs and no sugar diets which seem to be everywhere?(online) I just discovered yet another distant friend was also on the no carb deal and in his case, only eating once a day at 5pm. The claim was your body starts burning fat while you sleep(that night) and all the next day? He's lost 15 kilos in four weeks doing nothing else.(no exercise, was/is obese)

Other than Romes recently, I don't recall anyone else saying anything really "bad" about the no carb, no sugar...diets or "weight loss diet"...I think? it was once called the "Atkins Diet" and now "Keto..something" and of course "Butter Bob's" youtube presentations....

So thanks...A discussion of BP meds and statins might be in order here?
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April 17th, 2018 at 7:59:30 AM permalink
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...A discussion of BP meds and statins might be in order here?

Statins are substances that make you die with better numbers in your medical file, but they have not been shown to increase life span or quality of life in any way, you just die with better numbers.

also statins are thought to cross the blood brain barrier so those who have had a diabetic crisis should probably not be on statins.

BP meds? Are you referring to saffron, hibiscus tea, passion flower petals, turmeric, parsley?
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April 17th, 2018 at 8:21:43 AM permalink
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Any other opinions on the low/no carbs and no sugar diets which seem to be everywhere?(online) I just discovered yet another distant friend was also on the no carb deal and in his case, only eating once a day at 5pm. The claim was your body starts burning fat while you sleep(that night) and all the next day? He's lost 15 kilos in four weeks doing nothing else.(no exercise, was/is obese)



There's nothing wrong with carbs. You need them for energy. The vast majority of the time when people talk about how they cut out carbs and lost weight, it's because they cut those foods out of their diet and haven't replaced them with anything else. I.e., they've simply cut calories. It has nothing to do with the fact that they've specifically cut carbs. By the same token, though, carb-y foods CAN be calorie dense, so if you're trying to lose weight, and you normally eat a slice or two of toast in the morning, by cutting out those carbs you can save up to a couple of hundred calories a day, which can lead to sustained weight loss.

15kg sounds like a lot to lose in four weeks, though. I'd be worried that your friend, by losing so much so quickly, completely cutting out carbs, and only eating once a day, is not setting himself up for a sustainable healthy lifestyle. He might be able to do it in the short term, and lose weight, but can he do it for 5, 10, 50 years and keep that weight off?

Sugar should be avoided as much as possible, though.

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Heck no! Dozens of complex anti-oxidants in each. Catechins and Epicatechins in Green Tea are not only relaxing but they stimulate fat burning.



I meant they're "basically just water" in that it's like 99% of the composition. Nothing like soda which has a ton of added crap in it.
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April 17th, 2018 at 2:18:13 PM permalink
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Any other opinions on the low/no carbs and no sugar diets which seem to be everywhere?(online) I just discovered yet another distant friend was also on the no carb deal and in his case, only eating once a day at 5pm. The claim was your body starts burning fat while you sleep(that night) and all the next day? He's lost 15 kilos in four weeks doing nothing else.(no exercise, was/is obese)

Other than Romes recently, I don't recall anyone else saying anything really "bad" about the no carb, no sugar...diets or "weight loss diet"...I think? it was once called the "Atkins Diet" and now "Keto..something" and of course "Butter Bob's" youtube presentations....

So thanks...A discussion of BP meds and statins might be in order here?



Before I met him, my ex-husband lost about 150 lbs on something called the Carbohydrate Addicts.Diet. It totally goes against most eating advice, but it worked for him.

The basic thing was, IIRC, you ate nothing with any carbs in it 23 hours a day. Water, black coffee, tea, sugar-free gum, whatever you could find ultra-low carbs. For 1 hour a day, the same hour every day (think it was dinnertime), you could eat anything you wanted regardless of fat, sugar, carb content. Might even have been recommended to high-carb your meals to get the diet to work.

Supposedly, it kept your body from starvation mode, which causes it to hoard fat cells, but it would.work overtime to burn the calories when it finally got some. I think.there was some guidance about vitamins and mineral ingestion as well. But the timing 23/1 was the key.
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April 17th, 2018 at 2:20:23 PM permalink
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Before I met him, my ex-husband lost about 150 lbs on something called the Carbohydrate Addicts.Diet. It totally goes against most eating advice, but it worked for him.

The basic thing was, IIRC, you ate nothing with any carbs in it 23 hours a day. Water, black coffee, tea, sugar-free gum, whatever you could find ultra-low carbs. For 1 hour a day, the same hour every day (think it was dinnertime), you could eat anything you wanted regardless of fat, sugar, carb content. Might even have been recommended to high-carb your meals to get the diet to work.

Supposedly, it kept your body from starvation mode, which causes it to hoard fat cells, but it would.work overtime to burn the calories when it finally got some. I think.there was some guidance about vitamins and mineral ingestion as well. But the timing 23/1 was the key.



Seems like a fasting regimen, specifically an intermittent fasting regimen, not really a 'diet'. Diets dont work. Lifestyle changes work. Hopefully he managed to implement that into his lifestyle.

Oh by the way, 'starvation mode' doesnt exist. Glad i could clear up the misinformation once again.
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