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May 22nd, 2017 at 11:21:25 AM permalink
Out of curiosity, are there betting lines on who goes to prison first? Clinton or Trump.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 1:34:54 PM permalink
If it is a race, they ought to get around to appointing that special prosecutor to go after Clinton.

Quote: Kellyanne Conway

[Trump] doesn't wish to pursue these charges.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1345/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-hillary-cli/
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May 22nd, 2017 at 2:35:07 PM permalink
I just saw the tape with Trump in front of Netanyahou saying "I never used the word Israel" in his sharing secrets with the Russians.
Trump is soooo dumb.....so embarrassing. I'm with Stone, Trump makes me want to puke.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 3:09:31 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Out of curiosity, are there betting lines on who goes to prison first? Clinton or Trump.


-150 on Trump

Hard for the GOP to continue a witch hunt when a real criminal investigation on Trump is picking up so much speed.

Here's Bovada's current lines:
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May 22nd, 2017 at 3:36:08 PM permalink
Trumps trying to talk peace in Israel. If you want peace there, the Israelis need to leave that land they stole because they are not wanted there.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 5:18:18 PM permalink
Anywhere to bet the NO on a Trump impeachment?
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May 22nd, 2017 at 5:25:47 PM permalink
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Anywhere to bet the NO on a Trump impeachment?


"exits 2020 or later" or "completes full term" on bovada and I'm sure others, unless you want to bet on a resignation rather than impeachment
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:41:40 PM permalink
He can also be removed from office without an impeachment. I absolutely don't expect that to happen, but it is possible.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:44:59 PM permalink
He can be removed without being impeached. I don't expect that to happen, but it can. @5th Amendment
Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 7:07:31 PM permalink
Life was so much simpler when the President was getting blown, coming on a blue dress and shoving a cigar in a slightly overweight intern. It's only got worse since then. Every POTUS has divided us.

Does anyone think we will ever have a President who unites us? Are we to far past that point? Or will it take a national tragedy?
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Does anyone think we will ever have a President who unites us? Are we to far past that point? Or will it take a national tragedy?

It will take a huge dose of civility, respect for different opinions, and the ability to discuss those differing opinions calmly and logically without resulting in junior high school name-calling.

So yeah, I am aftraid we are past that point.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 8:22:18 PM permalink
Might take Aliens establishing a base on the moon and destroying Japan in a flash.
Or a guy elected under false pretenses who uses his clueless base to further his stealth agenda until even the sleepiest of the sheep realize they are being sheared.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 9:02:45 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Anywhere to bet the NO on a Trump impeachment?



On PaddyPower a person can bet yes for even money on a Trump impeachment. Funny that they do not offer the NO. I wonder WHY? I need to start a political betting site and offer impossible to win one sided bets. The Hillary supporters would throw their money at me in order to vent their frustrations.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 9:42:51 PM permalink
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Anywhere to bet the NO on a Trump impeachment?



I thought Axel would book anything for a price.

Actually, don't we already have a string of bets on this exact topic? I recall djatc didn't like the odds I gave him, but we weren't the only ones booking a bet.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 9:46:11 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

It will take a huge dose of civility, respect for different opinions, and the ability to discuss those differing opinions calmly and logically without resulting in junior high school name-calling.

So yeah, I am aftraid we are past that point.



It can be done.

It was how we worked until the Reagan administration. And some things ,still, during his and GHWB. The wheels didn't really come off until 1992, and it's only gotten worse.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 10:02:00 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: RS

Anywhere to bet the NO on a Trump impeachment?



I thought Axel would book anything for a price.

Actually, don't we already have a string of bets on this exact topic? I recall djatc didn't like the odds I gave him, but we weren't the only ones booking a bet.

I would probably take the NO on the Gracious, sexiest, Romantic and gamechanger Trump. So it's doubtful he would give me the right price.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 10:02:58 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Life was so much simpler when the President was getting blown, coming on a blue dress and shoving a cigar in a slightly overweight intern. It's only got worse since then. Every POTUS has divided us.

Does anyone think we will ever have a President who unites us? Are we to far past that point? Or will it take a national tragedy?



Probably not. The only selling point of either party is how horrible the other one is and they are both right. There are massive efforts to keep us divided and they won't stop anytime soon.

I think that, to a great degree, politics is a game that has been solved. Divide and conquer works, uniting would be stupid.

A well intentioned individual might give it a go, but they'd be submarined by their own party.

Even if some disaster does unite us in some sense, like 9/11, it will just be used as leverage against the general population, like 9/11.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 10:37:46 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

It can be done.

It was how we worked until the Reagan administration. And some things ,still, during his and GHWB. The wheels didn't really come off until 1992, and it's only gotten worse.



Are mom you one of those people who remember the sixties as a blur?
Kennedy was hated for being a dupe of the Vatican. LBJ was hated, seemingly for just being LBJ. Tricky Dick? Ford and Carter might have gotten passes, as did George Herbert Bush, but Reagan was hated by a large minority since his days as Gov. Ray Gun.
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May 24th, 2017 at 4:11:17 AM permalink
Apparently they got confused and thought they were going to the Vatican to attend the pope's funeral...

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May 24th, 2017 at 6:07:19 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Apparently they got confused and thought they were going to the Vatican to attend the pope's funeral...



No, that is the appropriate attire to wear to visit the Pope. I love the look on the Pope's face, though.
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May 24th, 2017 at 6:09:18 AM permalink
Trump saves his worst insults for terrorists.
He called them losers
Hmm
I can think of worse insults but of course with Trimps limited vocabulary, this is his worse insult
No wonder Trump can't deal with LOSING the popular vote.
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May 24th, 2017 at 6:42:57 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

No, that is the appropriate attire to wear to visit the Pope. I love the look on the Pope's face, though.



I know. It's just a funny picture. Looks like there was a death in the family..

Apparently the Pope made a joke about Melania feeding Donald too much "potizza" (which is a pastry).
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May 24th, 2017 at 7:21:30 AM permalink
So the women will cover their heads for the pope but not the Saudis?

That could be construed as an act of favoritism, or disrespect, among others.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:05:53 AM permalink
I've seen happier hostages than Mrs T. In that photo.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:12:28 AM permalink
Not Trump-related, but still funny.

Al Franken recounts Amy Klobuchar trying to get Ted Cruz's approval for a joke:

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May 25th, 2017 at 3:29:40 AM permalink
'Thatís all he wanted': Spicer, a devout Catholic, was snubbed from Trump's big meeting with the Pope

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/wanted-spicer-devout-catholic-snubbed-212945622.html

Wow, what a petty, childish, immature jerk. And no, I'm not referring to the Pope or Sean Spicer here. Spicer should quit before he lets the trumpster embarass him any further.

"Trump was reportedly mulling a massive staff shake-up at the White House earlier this month after his communications staff, led by Spicer, failed to contain the fallout from Trump's ouster of former FBI Director James Comey."

And how was ANYONE supposed to accomplish that, considering that it was a horrible, stupid idea in the first place, the fact that trump announced it with virtually no planning or internal communication, and trump's own contradictory statements to Lester Holt ? ?

The problem with the trump administration is trump.
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May 25th, 2017 at 4:53:58 AM permalink
Interesting article about trump ethics violations

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lobbyist-ban-cabinet-waiver-oge-2017-5
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May 25th, 2017 at 7:11:39 AM permalink
I've been voting mostly Republican for all of my life. I have never voted a straight party ticket, but have always leaned Republican.
For lesser races, if in doubt about the candidates, I would always choose the Republican.
So what I am about to state is somewhat (not terribly, but somewhat) difficult. Every friggin' Republican who has not stood up and criticized Trump and his Lilliputians for what they have done, and are doing, needs to get voted out of office. They're a disgrace to this Great Country. As a matter of fact, dissolving the Republican party would be a breath of fresh air......followed by the dissolution of the Democratic party. They are all gutless wonders................
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May 25th, 2017 at 8:20:05 AM permalink
We sadly lost nearly 3,000 people at the hands of extremist Islamists on 9-11. Those were despicable human beings who committed those acts.

Just as despicable are the Trump people in the WH. Those who are traitors. Those treacherous A-Holes who can cost our country 30,000 or 40,000 or more of our fine military people. They really need to be rooted out and taken out of office.
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May 25th, 2017 at 8:21:52 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

We sadly lost nearly 3,000 people at the hands of George Bush and Dick Cheney on 9-11. Those were despicable human beings who committed those acts.

Just as despicable are the Trump people in the WH. Those who are traitors. Those treacherous A-Holes who can cost our country 30,000 or 40,000 or more of our fine military people. They really need to be rooted out and taken out of office.


Fixed that for you.
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May 25th, 2017 at 8:25:44 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: steeldco

We sadly lost nearly 3,000 people at the hands of George Bush and Dick Cheney on 9-11. Those were despicable human beings who committed those acts.

Just as despicable are the Trump people in the WH. Those who are traitors. Those treacherous A-Holes who can cost our country 30,000 or 40,000 or more of our fine military people. They really need to be rooted out and taken out of office.


Fixed that for you.



The world is just full of...............count yourself in.
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May 25th, 2017 at 11:07:23 AM permalink
Federal appeals court has once again upheld the block on trumps travel ban

Travel ban cannot go into effect as of now

They cited trump and his associates words about banning Muslims. His past rhetoric comes to haunt him
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May 25th, 2017 at 12:12:06 PM permalink
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Crooked Hillary Clinton and her team "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Not fit!

China, Russia and Iran are laughing at us. We have weak leaders who are threatening our national security. Dangerous times.

Hillary Clinton should not be given national security briefings in that she is a lose cannon with extraordinarily bad judgement & insticts.



http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-blurts-out-classified-info-again-worrying-pentagon-officials
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May 25th, 2017 at 1:03:33 PM permalink
Quote: steeldco

I've been voting mostly Republican for all of my life. I have never voted a straight party ticket, but have always leaned Republican.
For lesser races, if in doubt about the candidates, I would always choose the Republican.
So what I am about to state is somewhat (not terribly, but somewhat) difficult. Every friggin' Republican who has not stood up and criticized Trump and his Lilliputians for what they have done, and are doing, needs to get voted out of office. They're a disgrace to this Great Country. As a matter of fact, dissolving the Republican party would be a breath of fresh air......followed by the dissolution of the Democratic party. They are all gutless wonders................



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May 25th, 2017 at 3:26:11 PM permalink
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Thanks for the only smile all day.

FACE: You may like this one:

trump appears to shove nato leader

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-appears-shove-nato-leader-171707687.html

Hey donald - the problem with the trump administration is trump. (TM)
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May 25th, 2017 at 5:13:36 PM permalink
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FACE: You may like this one:



I don't. It puts my entire life's philosophy in a tail spin. On one hand, never cause injury to another. On the other, sometimes a man needs a good punch in the face. I am purposely avoiding saturation of politics, so have no Earthly idea of Trump outside of this forum's comments, but I can tell with 100% assurance that that right there is a man in desperate need of a f#$%ing face punch.

Politics, news, spin, media bias, diplomacy, all that stuff is beyond me. But I know an a$$#$%^ when I see one.

What I DO like are comments like steeldco's. Folks who aren't scared to break from party and say "That's f#$%ed up". Folks with conviction who will stand with self and not with group. Folks who aren't so tied to the Us v Them theme that's been engendered since before my time and will act on their beliefs, not the beliefs of others. There's also guys like Boz, who doesn't give a rat's ass about your silly games, because he's too busy making it his way. These comments and stances give me hope, whereas the current situation has offered none.

All's I know is the Dems took a solid rocking between the Bern suppression and the loss to a mentally defective TV huckster, and the GOP is shattered not knowing whether to tow a ridiculous party or ridiculous pres. I feel we look like dips#$%s to most of the world and wonder if we didn't somehow go from the young, powerful upstart of a country to the senile ol' fool seemingly overnight. The UK shutting down an intel connection is about as bad as your grandma shutting down ice cream money. I have no idea how one could f#$% up that badly.

All of .gov is consumed by fire suppression. Every time they get one out, three more pop up. Soon they will tire, and it's all gonna burn. Just as prophesied ;)
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May 25th, 2017 at 5:24:14 PM permalink
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I feel we look like dips#$%s to most of the world

Hey we do agree on at least one thing. Peace, out.
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May 26th, 2017 at 7:48:35 AM permalink
Apparently the quotient of Gullibles in Montana was just too high to overcome.................
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May 26th, 2017 at 8:40:16 AM permalink
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Has Krugman ever been right about anything? Heís terrible, yet heís the economist of choice for main stream media and their news for dummies.

Rejected By His Peers - Forbes

Here he is describing only five big things he got wrong. Business Insider

Heís been wrong about the European Union, the demise of the Euro, economic growth after the recession, effect of the stimulus on unemployment, and more.

Apocalypse Fairly Soon- NYT 2012

9/11 attacks could be good for the economy -NYT 2001.

He predicted global economic recession Ďwith no end in sightí if Trump was elected. Then the Dow gained 2,000 points, and the global economy remains strong.

The Economic Fallout - NYT 2016

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Krugman Gets it Wrong Again - Forbes



From Paul Krugman:
"So many of the people who voted for Donald Trump were the victims of an epic scam by a man who has built his life around scamming."

Read more here:

Itís All About Trumpís Contempt
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May 26th, 2017 at 9:25:13 AM permalink
Quote: steeldco

Apparently the quotient of Gullibles in Montana was just too high to overcome.................



It may be that too many early voted.
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May 26th, 2017 at 9:53:55 AM permalink
37% voted early.
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May 26th, 2017 at 1:41:19 PM permalink
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37% voted early.

And/or that the inhabitants of the great state of Montana are more on the Nut-job side of the spectrum.
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May 26th, 2017 at 2:15:34 PM permalink
I think Trump is going to make it four years, but here's MY prediction.... he will NOT run for re-election. I don't know how, but I think he's going to be a one-term President. He's going to say something like, "I've accomplished everything I set out to do in one term, so there's no reason to run for a second." I think it's clear he hates being President, so he's going to get out of it any way he can while still saving face for his massive ego.

So get comfy, guys... we've got 3 1/2 more years of Trump!
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May 26th, 2017 at 2:18:42 PM permalink
37% early voting is a real number from a news article.

As for the rest, I heard an interview with one state resident who was doubting if it even really happened.

Another was happy, saying that a man willing to physically fight had strong convictions and would fight for us or something like that, and haven't we all done something like that?
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May 26th, 2017 at 2:22:54 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

37% early voting is a real number from a news article.

As for the rest, I heard an interview with one state resident who was doubting if it even really happened.

Another was happy, saying that a man willing to physically fight had strong convictions and would fight for us or something like that, and haven't we all done something like that?



The early voting shouldn't have mattered. This should have been a done deal going the other way, without the body slam. The people in Montana apparently like to be spat upon by Trump and his Lilliputians.
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May 26th, 2017 at 2:35:23 PM permalink
BTW, the only way that the swamp gets drained is by we, the people. Stop voting along party lines. Stop voting for these old farts. Listen to the candidates and choose those who will treat you the way you deserve to be treated. Nobody deserves to be BS'd continually under the guise of the politician claiming that he/she is just trying to do what they think is best for you. Stop being dupes. Stop being willing punching bags. Stand Up! Don't be a Gullible because if you are then you're really no better than the domestically abused partner who doesn't know enough to get out of the bad relationship.
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May 26th, 2017 at 4:11:15 PM permalink
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

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May 26th, 2017 at 4:17:52 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

37% early voting is a real number from a news article.

As for the rest, I heard an interview with one state resident who was doubting if it even really happened.

Another was happy, saying that a man willing to physically fight had strong convictions and would fight for us or something like that, and haven't we all done something like that?



You are misreading the article. 37% of eligible voters voted early. That's not 37% of the votes cast. Early voting was over 70% of the actual votes cast. Almost half the eligible voters didn't vote.
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May 26th, 2017 at 4:24:42 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

You are misreading the article. 37% of eligible voters voted early. That's not 37% of the votes cast. Early voting was over 70% of the actual votes cast. Almost half the eligible voters didn't vote.


Local election always have terrible turnout, which is a shame because in reality they have way more bearing on our day to day life than a presidential election.
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billryan
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May 26th, 2017 at 4:35:51 PM permalink
I was surprised to see there were that many Democrats in Montana.
Anyways, now we have another Party of God member in Washington who denies science and spent ten million dollars of his own money funding an anti-evolution museum that teaches Dinosaur bones were put in the ground by Satan to confuse people and the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
Unfortunately, it seems we are getting the government we deserve. Ecuador is looking better and better.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.

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