Hunterhill
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:31:28 PM permalink
Yesterday at Caesars Ac a player was playing Mississippi stud.He bet the $5 progressive side bet.
He is deal a 5 card Straight flush, His initial two cards are 2 and 4 of diamonds, he asks the dealer if he folds is he still in the Progressive, dealer says yes.
Dealer tucks his cards under 3cp side bet.
Dealer reveals community cards ,the players is hi fiveing everyone,he is told he just won 25k.
The shift manager takes his info then takes him to cage to collect his check.5 minutes later he comes back screaming WTF.
They refused to pay him saying he folded his hand, so it doesn't qualify for progressive.
NO where on the table is it posted. He called DGE,of course they don't work weekends, so they said someone will contact him on Monday.

Also previously another player had folded and the floor told him you still qualify and they paid him for a Straight.

It will be interesting to see how this will be resolved.

Also the Progressive meter as of a day later hadn't been reset to the 25k range.
Seems like another problem waiting to happen.
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Boz
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:37:49 PM permalink
Many issues here but I hope Gaming is willing to find and interview the others at the table. Even if the dealer said he was OK, they may rule against him.

Only fault I would have is the player even risking it and asking. Just play it out.
tringlomane
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:46:29 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Many issues here but I hope Gaming is willing to find and interview the others at the table. Even if the dealer said he was OK, they may rule against him.

Only fault I would have is the player even risking it and asking. Just play it out.



They shouldn't be offering a side bet with a giant house edge that forces you to play the main game sub-optimally to get paid. I personally hope they make them pay, but not holding my breath.
Wizardofnothing
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:46:30 PM permalink
I'd be shocked if they pay him- I've had dealers make numerous verbal mistakes and you are basically screwed for the most part. Had dealer advise me the wrong way to set a hand in tiles when I first was learning
But if they allowed verbal I could see it open a huge Pandora's box
Hopefully they pay him but a verbal is extremely hard
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Hunterhill
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:58:10 PM permalink
They have a sign on the table saying the 3cp side bet is in action even if u fold your hand, however no mention of the Progressive.
Also the fact that they paid the previous player on the straight.
They took a few players names and numbers for witnesses.
After all this you would think they would have put a temporary sign on the table,saying folded hands are out of the Progressive, but as of tonight nothing.
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Wizardofnothing
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:59:54 PM permalink
I'm sure you know how poorly most casinos are run- Tropicana still has stickers on machines that say not eligible for a loss rebate they haven't had in 5 years
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Deucekies
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September 18th, 2016 at 10:00:20 PM permalink
Didn't the shift manager know that the player folded? If he was aware of this, and he approved the win, who at the cage is overruling him?
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RS
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September 19th, 2016 at 4:54:10 AM permalink
Hopefully someone else hits a dealt SF for $25k before gaming forces the casino to pay (the first guy) $25k. That way they both get paid $25k for the casino's stupidity for not paying when they should have.

But yes, quite the snafu, indubitably.
Ibeatyouraces
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September 19th, 2016 at 5:30:13 AM permalink
He folded BEFORE the community cards were revealed. Therefore he DID NOT make a straight flush and does not deserve the pay off. No different than in a live poker game where if you fold pocket 4's to pocket A's and have the board read 46A4A. You don't win the bad beat jackpot either.
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Hunterhill
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September 19th, 2016 at 5:47:22 AM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

Didn't the shift manager know that the player folded? If he was aware of this, and he approved the win, who at the cage is overruling him?


The shift manager came to the table and turned the key for the Progressive, so not sure who realized that he folded.
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