Romes
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January 9th, 2015 at 11:35:34 AM permalink
Quote: Avincow

Romes, you probably don't look as young as Gandler and I look. When I went to Vegas I got carded 90% of the time when I say down at the table and 50% of the time when I cashed out. Hell, I even got carded when I ordered water from the bar! The first time it happened to me, I thought the bartender was joking. I was laughing and making fun of the request for about 30 seconds until I realized he was dead serious and wasn't going to give me water until I showed my card.

I haves never been carded so many times, except in Vegas. Usually I show my card at the door, and that is the only time I am carded.


That doesn't have to do with looking young (at least not entirely)...

1) I look very young when I shave.
2) When I was actually 21 and went to vegas my first few times, I NEVER got ID'd anywhere, for anything, because they didn't care as much back then. They obviously got a ton of fines/etc because when I go to vegas now, nearly a decade later, I get ID'd going from table to table that are right next to each other.

I thought it was in context but I could see how it could be taken differently... I was referring to I've NEVER been ID'd once at a casino cage, which is the truth.
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Venthus
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January 9th, 2015 at 12:00:49 PM permalink
A few trips back, I was offered a kid's menu.

I get ID'd all over the place; on entry, sitting down, by the floor, ordering non-alcoholic drinks, at the cage... about the only place that I haven't gotten ID'd was picking up voucher'd drinks at a bar. And once, at Silverton, I was surrounded by security and told to leave because it was a 21+ area.

My getting carded at the cage is probably mostly due to the amount/denoms, but I was also told on a few occasions that it was explicitly for age verification.
Gandler
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January 9th, 2015 at 1:16:18 PM permalink
Quote: Venthus



My getting carded at the cage is probably mostly due to the amount/denoms, but I was also told on a few occasions that it was explicitly for age verification.



Its likely both. Depending what you mean by large amounts, if its over 10k in a single transaction they have to for reporting purposes. But they also have to verify your age if you are young.
sc15
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January 9th, 2015 at 1:23:40 PM permalink
I'm 27 and I've cashed out 50K in flags without them asking for ID. They just need a player's card for the CTRC.
Gandler
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January 9th, 2015 at 1:26:14 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

I'm 27 and I've cashed out 50K in flags without them asking for ID. They just need a player's card for the CTRC.



That's because your PC already has all the info scanned from your ID...

If this guy was using a PC it would not be an issue, but he wasn't and refused to show it at cage.
Dieter
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January 9th, 2015 at 1:42:28 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Anything under $10,000 isn't subject to a CTR, and thus doesn't require an ID/information.



$10k/day. They're required to aggregate the transactions.

IMO, any transaction over $3k is reasonable to request ID on, so they don't get burned if someone does it 4 times and they fail to submit the CTR.
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Beardgoat
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January 9th, 2015 at 2:00:52 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

$10k/day. They're required to aggregate the transactions.

IMO, any transaction over $3k is reasonable to request ID on, so they don't get burned if someone does it 4 times and they fail to submit the CTR.



I've stated many times on this forum that I was a cashier at a Caesars casino. This was 8-10 years ago. However, we were instructed to request ID for any transactions over $2,500. This was done precisely for the reason stated above to keep track of a customers running cash out total. Chips, coupons, slot tickets, cashing checks, and credit card advances were all tracked and a CTR ( I think it was called CTR) was filled out by a manager once the cumulative total went over $10k... I definitely refused to cash in chips if a player would not show ID, but I have never confiscated or seen anyone else confiscate chips
tringlomane
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January 9th, 2015 at 2:01:16 PM permalink
Quote: Avincow

Hell, I even got carded when I ordered water from the bar! The first time it happened to me, I thought the bartender was joking

I have never been carded so many times, except in Vegas. Usually I show my card at the door anywhere else in the country and that is the end of it.



I got carded at the Casino Royale Outback at 33 for ordering a water in Sept. 2013, g/f was with me and just turned 29 at the time and also ordered water. Bartender said anyone under 21 in Nevada is not allowed to even sit at a bar even when not buying alcohol. I was shocked as well.

Also have been getting carded in Vegas/Tunica more lately than say 2011. One day I was running so hot last year that I got asked for ID at Sam's Town Tunica while wearing a Sam's Town Tunica T-Shirt...

It's a bit "nice" to be carded like this now...but I feel bad for the 21-year olds today, I got carded 9 times in 3 days in 2001 when I was 21 in Vegas. If I was 21 now, I probably would up that to 30 or 50.
darkoz
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January 9th, 2015 at 3:00:23 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

If you were purchasing cigarettes or booze or lotto yes....



Seriously? So the clerk can keep your money because you were trying to buy booze underage?

Sorry, that's considered theft. Now he is breaking the law.

As for why he went up to the cashier, if he is in Vegas from New Jersey he probably doesn't know anyone who can cash out his chips later. Once I knew a casino was looking to trespass me, I would want my money returned.

Skipping the cashier is only really good for players with team members or who live nearby and can return a month or two later.
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Gandler
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January 9th, 2015 at 3:08:08 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Seriously? So the clerk can keep your money because you were trying to buy booze underage?

Sorry, that's considered theft. Now he is breaking the law.

As for why he went up to the cashier, if he is in Vegas from New Jersey he probably doesn't know anyone who can cash out his chips later. Once I knew a casino was looking to trespass me, I would want my money returned.

Skipping the cashier is only really good for players with team members or who live nearby and can return a month or two later.



He obviously had a beef with CET. He knew they didn't like him. And he didn't like them.

He chose to knowingly go into their casino, play, and cash out. He then refused to show the cashier his ID and made a scene. I don't feel bad for him...

There are many other casinos he could have gone to if he feels so abused by CET in past experiences as he claims....

Why would he go to Vegas where there are endless amounts of casino options and choose a casino he has a beef with? he obviously had something to prove.

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