Hunterhill
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January 9th, 2015 at 9:30:54 AM permalink
Article in LVRJ
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/card-counter-sues-planet-hollywood-over-detention-confiscated-casino-chips
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January 9th, 2015 at 9:52:07 AM permalink
How much will he get? Six figures? Maybe between $100k and $200k?
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Hunterhill
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January 9th, 2015 at 9:55:03 AM permalink
Unless he was hoping to cause a problem he should not have gone to the cashier.He said he noticed the attention, he should have left asap and cashed out some other day.Also suing new jersey casinos.
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January 9th, 2015 at 9:56:37 AM permalink
He's got a good lawyer.
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:13:56 AM permalink
Their restrooms are clean. No other reason to visit these damn places.
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:23:45 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

How much will he get? Six figures? Maybe between $100k and $200k?


With the fact that they did nothing other than demand his ID wrongfully, claim he was counting (which is legal) then handcuff and hold him for taking a picture, oh my that seems like a pretty solid case... I would think he'll get 6 figures, especially with a great attorney =).

See now I'm torn lol. Pro's an experienced players always say when you get heat to just leave and not worry about cashing out. But at the same time if this will result in a 6 figure settlement, then by golly why not give them the opportunity to do something stupid/illegal to you.

I really wish this would blow up and get a ton more media attention. There's really no difference than if this happened in a casino or a 7-11. Say he paid with a $100 for a candy bar and the cashier owned him money back... then for no reason the cashier demands his ID, which he can rightfully refuse to provide. Then the cashier handcuffs him, holds him in the backroom, and calls the police. Replace casino with convenient store and suddenly this becomes a very serious violation of human rights! These damn casino's don't write the laws and they aren't above them. I'd LOVE to see a judge make an example of them and award millions to him.

Edit: This is also just STUPID management by the casino. I mean, how much money were you trying to save ID'ing a guy whom was probably playing $50/hand? If he's a real pro they're just one shop in his rotation and don't get anywhere near his undivided play. So how much damage was he really going to do to them? Their court costs at this point are already going to match that, let alone when they LOSE for doing ILLEGAL things. What a moronic business decision.
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:34:13 AM permalink
Requesting ID for cash out is allowed and pretty standard if you are young ( article says he is 28). I don't understand why he just didn't show ID to avoid the shenagagins...

I could be wrong (perhaps a lawyer here can clarify, also NV may be different), but if you refuse to Prove your identity for win it is then subject to forfeiture or at least seizure until ID is confirmed.

People who look under 35 are subject to be IDd by the casino for age security. He should have just done the right thing and shown his ID instead of making a scene. I don't understand what he is trying to prove...
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Hunterhill
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:39:59 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Requesting ID for cash out is allowed and pretty standard if you are young ( article says he is 28). I don't understand why he just didn't show ID to avoid the shenagagins...

I could be wrong (perhaps a lawyer here can clarify, also NV may be different), but if you refuse to Prove your identity for win it is then subject to forfeiture or at least seizure until ID is confirmed.

People who look under 35 are subject to be IDd by the casino for age security. He should have just done the right thing and shown his ID instead of making a scene. I don't understand what he is trying to prove...


If they thought he was under age they should have id him when he was playing.

He did the right thing to not show id but he should not have cashed out Unless this was his intention to get a lawsuit.
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mcallister3200
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:42:25 AM permalink
Sounds like a Caesars property. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Caesar's has a reputation of playing a bit rough and going straight for a trespass on a first offense per company policy. The fact that he was charged for disorderly conduct not once but twice in A.C., and that he tried to cash out when he knew he had heat, suggests that he handles these situations in an unprofessional and disruptive manner and that there's more to the story. Mr N taking the case suggests he has a solid case, probably entirely revolving around the withholding of chips without receipt and not contacting gaming, the latter part of which is probably he said/she said.
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January 9th, 2015 at 10:46:40 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

If they thought he was under age they should have id him when he was playing.

He did the right thing to not show id but he should not have cashed out Unless this was his intention to get a lawsuit.



its pretty standard, and in some states even required to demand ID for people under 35 for certain transactions.

I am young (younger than him) and I always get IDd on cash out, again it's normal, and likely required, if not by that state law then by casino policy...
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