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December 24th, 2024 at 12:53:24 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.
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Every hot dog you eat takes 39 minutes off your life. If I remember right a burger like the one in the picture is about 55 minutes off the end of your life. Doesn't sound like much but it adds up to years eventually.
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Why would I want to live another 55 minutes if I can't have a burger?

FYI: Fatburger is a different chain.
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December 24th, 2024 at 1:19:54 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.



Is there a chain restaurant that does it better? I haven't been to Wisconsin in over 10 years.
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December 24th, 2024 at 1:21:04 PM permalink
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Why would I want to live another 55 minutes if I can't have a burger?

FYI: Fatburger is a different chain.
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That is my thought too. Why live longer if you can't have what you desire.
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December 24th, 2024 at 2:05:58 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.



Is there a chain restaurant that does it better? I haven't been to Wisconsin in over 10 years.
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I'm not sure it is still on the menu, but Jack in The Box had an astonishingly good butterburger. Right now, they have a smashed burger superior to the Big Three Chains. I prefer their custard to their burgers but I can't eat both in one seating.
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December 24th, 2024 at 2:48:36 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.



Is there a chain restaurant that does it better? I haven't been to Wisconsin in over 10 years.
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Preference is subjective. I know I used to get SuperSonic Double Cheeseburgers, and thought they were preferable. I don't think those are butterburgers.

These days, I generally get a Wendy's biggie bag, if it has to be fast food.
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December 24th, 2024 at 3:13:07 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.



Is there a chain restaurant that does it better? I haven't been to Wisconsin in over 10 years.
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Preference is subjective. I know I used to get SuperSonic Double Cheeseburgers, and thought they were preferable. I don't think those are butterburgers.

These days, I generally get a Wendy's biggie bag, if it has to be fast food.
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Sorry, I was referring to butterburgers. I thought maybe Wisconsin had a few chains that did them.
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December 24th, 2024 at 4:10:00 PM permalink
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I'm a Sconnie. I've eaten at the original Culver's location many times.
Good burger, but I believe the general consensus is that Culver's is not the pinnacle of the butterburger style.
I am pretty sure I am not allowed to eat there anymore.



Is there a chain restaurant that does it better? I haven't been to Wisconsin in over 10 years.
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Preference is subjective. I know I used to get SuperSonic Double Cheeseburgers, and thought they were preferable. I don't think those are butterburgers.

These days, I generally get a Wendy's biggie bag, if it has to be fast food.
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Sorry, I was referring to butterburgers. I thought maybe Wisconsin had a few chains that did them.
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The superior butterburgers are not from chains.

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December 24th, 2024 at 5:08:26 PM permalink
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The superior butterburgers are not from chains.



Of course not, I don't think any superior food comes from chain restaurants.

On second thought, McDonald's French Fries may be as good as any French Fry when you get a good batch.
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December 24th, 2024 at 5:46:22 PM permalink
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The superior butterburgers are not from chains.



Of course not, I don't think any superior food comes from chain restaurants.

On second thought, McDonald's French Fries may be as good as any French Fry when you get a good batch.
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I found a hair in my McDonald's fries and informed the manager. He gave me a new order of fries that somehow tasted Worse than the first order with hair in it. Perhaps THAT was/is the secret ingredient??
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December 24th, 2024 at 6:57:24 PM permalink
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The superior butterburgers are not from chains.



Of course not, I don't think any superior food comes from chain restaurants.

On second thought, McDonald's French Fries may be as good as any French Fry when you get a good batch.
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I found a hair in my McDonald's fries and informed the manager. He gave me a new order of fries that somehow tasted Worse than the first order with hair in it. Perhaps THAT was/is the secret ingredient??
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Interesting. I have noticed a lot of bald people working at McDonald's lately
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December 24th, 2024 at 8:20:21 PM permalink
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The superior butterburgers are not from chains.



Of course not, I don't think any superior food comes from chain restaurants.

On second thought, McDonald's French Fries may be as good as any French Fry when you get a good batch.
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I found a hair in my McDonald's fries and informed the manager. He gave me a new order of fries that somehow tasted Worse than the first order with hair in it. Perhaps THAT was/is the secret ingredient??
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Interesting. I have noticed a lot of bald people working at McDonald's lately
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Not where I live, mostly teenagers and barely English speaking employees with acne all over their faces. I asked to sub out the Soda for a Coffee w/ cream and splenda and it took the drive thru worker 3 tries to figure it out!
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December 24th, 2024 at 9:34:06 PM permalink
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Not where I live, mostly teenagers and barely English speaking employees with acne all over their faces. I asked to sub out the Soda for a Coffee w/ cream and splenda and it took the drive thru worker 3 tries to figure it out!
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Don't get sick, eat at the Chick! The thing I like the most about Chick-Fil-A, after the chicken, is the way the employees are all taught to communicate and present themselves. Perfect English even if they are from some other background, clean and in uniform, no mumbling or shoegazing.

After mastering that, then they are all candidates for better jobs than fast food.
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December 25th, 2024 at 12:21:54 AM permalink
Walmarts vary
+ One near me has covered parking!
- One has lots of items locked in cabinets that they have to open and walk to the checkout! For socks!
+ One has brand new carts
- One has parking so gravelly that everything falls out of your cart
- None have 24 hrs anymore
- None open Christmas anymore
- One has all self-checkout with 90% closed because they won't hire people to watch over them for problems
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December 25th, 2024 at 3:26:32 AM permalink
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Not where I live, mostly teenagers and barely English speaking employees with acne all over their faces. I asked to sub out the Soda for a Coffee w/ cream and splenda and it took the drive thru worker 3 tries to figure it out!
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Don't get sick, eat at the Chick! The thing I like the most about Chick-Fil-A, after the chicken, is the way the employees are all taught to communicate and present themselves. Perfect English even if they are from some other background, clean and in uniform, no mumbling or shoegazing.

After mastering that, then they are all candidates for better jobs than fast food.
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And that is why the average Chick-Fil-A unit does twice the business of the average MCD despite being open only 6/7 of the time and Chick-Fil-A not having near the breakfast business MCD does. They decline like 98% of applicants for Operator positions. Think about that! Harvard and West Point probably have a higher acceptance rate.
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December 25th, 2024 at 1:47:18 PM permalink
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And that is why the average Chick-Fil-A unit does twice the business of the average MCD despite being open only 6/7 of the time and Chick-Fil-A not having near the breakfast business MCD does. They decline like 98% of applicants for Operator positions. Think about that! Harvard and West Point probably have a higher acceptance rate.
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Is that how they do it, with selection and they pick people who are like that coming in the door? I assumed it was training, where they teach you these habits that you are not likely to learn anywhere else in the present day.
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December 25th, 2024 at 4:04:55 PM permalink
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And that is why the average Chick-Fil-A unit does twice the business of the average MCD despite being open only 6/7 of the time and Chick-Fil-A not having near the breakfast business MCD does. They decline like 98% of applicants for Operator positions. Think about that! Harvard and West Point probably have a higher acceptance rate.
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Is that how they do it, with selection and they pick people who are like that coming in the door? I assumed it was training, where they teach you these habits that you are not likely to learn anywhere else in the present day.
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I think "Operator" may mean "Franchisee". (Happy to hear otherwise.)
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December 26th, 2024 at 2:53:08 AM permalink
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And that is why the average Chick-Fil-A unit does twice the business of the average MCD despite being open only 6/7 of the time and Chick-Fil-A not having near the breakfast business MCD does. They decline like 98% of applicants for Operator positions. Think about that! Harvard and West Point probably have a higher acceptance rate.
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Is that how they do it, with selection and they pick people who are like that coming in the door? I assumed it was training, where they teach you these habits that you are not likely to learn anywhere else in the present day.
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I think "Operator" may mean "Franchisee". (Happy to hear otherwise.)
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Sort of. They do not own the store so they are not a franchisee. They are more than a GM as they spit the year's profits 50/50 and do put in investment but low 5 figures not mid 6 like a franchise. Thus it is a hybrid called "operator."
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December 26th, 2024 at 3:13:01 AM permalink
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And that is why the average Chick-Fil-A unit does twice the business of the average MCD despite being open only 6/7 of the time and Chick-Fil-A not having near the breakfast business MCD does. They decline like 98% of applicants for Operator positions. Think about that! Harvard and West Point probably have a higher acceptance rate.
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Is that how they do it, with selection and they pick people who are like that coming in the door? I assumed it was training, where they teach you these habits that you are not likely to learn anywhere else in the present day.
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I think "Operator" may mean "Franchisee". (Happy to hear otherwise.)
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Sort of. They do not own the store so they are not a franchisee. They are more than a GM as they spit the year's profits 50/50 and do put in investment but low 5 figures not mid 6 like a franchise. Thus it is a hybrid called "operator."
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That makes sense.
There seemed to be confusion about the difference for in-store position hiring vs selection for "Operator", "Owner Operator", or "Franchisee". (Their website seems to mix the terms a bit non-specifically.)

I haven't heard anything about a 98% rejection rate for fry-cook candidates, for example.
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December 26th, 2024 at 6:52:14 AM permalink
When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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December 26th, 2024 at 8:34:06 AM permalink
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When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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My guess is they did hire a bunch of locals but two weeks later most of them were gone. I remember when Four Winds Casino opened in 2007 and 100% of their valet crew was local minorities. A month later it was almost 100% White women. I asked what happened and the manager told me the original people they hired only came in two or three times a week and they caught a bunch of them stealing stuff out of the cars they parked and that was that. If you're going to hire local minorities you have to keep hiring and keep hiring and keep hiring until you eventually somewhere down the road get a bunch of them that're going to come in every day and not steal from you. Just a fact of life.
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December 26th, 2024 at 1:10:28 PM permalink
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When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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My guess is they did hire a bunch of locals but two weeks later most of them were gone. I remember when Four Winds Casino opened in 2007 and 100% of their valet crew was local minorities. A month later it was almost 100% White women. I asked what happened and the manager told me the original people they hired only came in two or three times a week and they caught a bunch of them stealing stuff out of the cars they parked and that was that. If you're going to hire local minorities you have to keep hiring and keep hiring and keep hiring until you eventually somewhere down the road get a bunch of them that're going to come in every day and not steal from you. Just a fact of life.
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They might just have not been qualified for even these kinds of positions. I was hiring for an office position once and had tons of applicants. It was far above "fry cook" but half of them I would hesitate to hire for that. The woman I did hire was a former Burger King manager. She told me how some people you got in there could not even handle sending the burgers and buns down the fryer and toaster. All one had to do was send a few more burgers than buns to account for doubles. Alas so many could not even grasp that. I had one dummy who got chemicals in his eye because he was filling the sprayer in a blowing wind looking right into it. We lost like half the customers on his route within months.

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December 26th, 2024 at 4:52:32 PM permalink
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When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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My guess is they did hire a bunch of locals but two weeks later most of them were gone. I remember when Four Winds Casino opened in 2007 and 100% of their valet crew was local minorities. A month later it was almost 100% White women. I asked what happened and the manager told me the original people they hired only came in two or three times a week and they caught a bunch of them stealing stuff out of the cars they parked and that was that. If you're going to hire local minorities you have to keep hiring and keep hiring and keep hiring until you eventually somewhere down the road get a bunch of them that're going to come in every day and not steal from you. Just a fact of life.
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They might just have not been qualified for even these kinds of positions. I was hiring for an office position once and had tons of applicants. It was far above "fry cook" but half of them I would hesitate to hire for that. The woman I did hire was a former Burger King manager. She told me how some people you got in there could not even handle sending the burgers and buns down the fryer and toaster. All one had to do was send a few more burgers than buns to account for doubles. Alas so many could not even grasp that. I had one dummy who got chemicals in his eye because he was filling the sprayer in a blowing wind looking right into it. We lost like half the customers on his route within months.

And we wonder why we have to tell people not to eat Tide Pods(r).
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I knew somebody years ago who worked in what was then called Personnel Department, it's called something else now. Human Resources maybe. She said by far their biggest problem was getting people to come in every day. There was always people calling in sick or having some other excuse and it was always the same group of people. They generally worked an average of three days a week when they're supposed to work 5. 90% of them were women and they would have every excuse in the book short of they got kidnapped by aliens. Biggest headache job she ever had she hated it. It's the truth that 80% of society has always been dragged along by the 20% who are extremely productive.
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December 26th, 2024 at 5:32:20 PM permalink
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When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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My guess is they did hire a bunch of locals but two weeks later most of them were gone. I remember when Four Winds Casino opened in 2007 and 100% of their valet crew was local minorities. A month later it was almost 100% White women. I asked what happened and the manager told me the original people they hired only came in two or three times a week and they caught a bunch of them stealing stuff out of the cars they parked and that was that. If you're going to hire local minorities you have to keep hiring and keep hiring and keep hiring until you eventually somewhere down the road get a bunch of them that're going to come in every day and not steal from you. Just a fact of life.
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They might just have not been qualified for even these kinds of positions. I was hiring for an office position once and had tons of applicants. It was far above "fry cook" but half of them I would hesitate to hire for that. The woman I did hire was a former Burger King manager. She told me how some people you got in there could not even handle sending the burgers and buns down the fryer and toaster. All one had to do was send a few more burgers than buns to account for doubles. Alas so many could not even grasp that. I had one dummy who got chemicals in his eye because he was filling the sprayer in a blowing wind looking right into it. We lost like half the customers on his route within months.

And we wonder why we have to tell people not to eat Tide Pods(r).
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I knew somebody years ago who worked in what was then called Personnel Department, it's called something else now. Human Resources maybe. She said by far their biggest problem was getting people to come in every day. There was always people calling in sick or having some other excuse and it was always the same group of people. They generally worked an average of three days a week when they're supposed to work 5. 90% of them were women and they would have every excuse in the book short of they got kidnapped by aliens. Biggest headache job she ever had she hated it. It's the truth that 80% of society has always been dragged along by the 20% who are extremely productive.
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Do you consider yourself in the 20% that are extremely productive?
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December 26th, 2024 at 8:44:21 PM permalink
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Do you consider yourself in the 20% that are extremely productive?
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I worked just about every day of my life because I'm self-employed and I even work every day in retirement. I worked for hours today, just as I will tomorrow. I even made money for an hour which I don't consider work but it definitely is. I make money everyday at an online casino. I consider people who don't work at something everyday to be fairly useless and a burden on society.
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December 27th, 2024 at 2:19:50 AM permalink
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Do you consider yourself in the 20% that are extremely productive?
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I worked just about every day of my life because I'm self-employed and I even work every day in retirement. I worked for hours today, just as I will tomorrow. I even made money for an hour which I don't consider work but it definitely is. I make money everyday at an online casino. I consider people who don't work at something everyday to be fairly useless and a burden on society.
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But someone who sits around all day playing roulette online is a productive member of society? As opposed to the guy who sits around playing video games while his Bitcoin investment quadruples.
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December 27th, 2024 at 2:38:01 AM permalink
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When I loved in Henderson, a new In and Out was opening in a rough section of the East Side, almost near the Boulder Highway strip.
I drove by one time and saw a long line of applicants as they were holding a job fair. I'd estimate the line was 80% minority, but two weeks or so later, on my first visit, the workers were over 90% white. It's the only I&O I know of in a rough neighborhood, and it was apparent they didn't hire locals.
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My guess is they did hire a bunch of locals but two weeks later most of them were gone. I remember when Four Winds Casino opened in 2007 and 100% of their valet crew was local minorities. A month later it was almost 100% White women. I asked what happened and the manager told me the original people they hired only came in two or three times a week and they caught a bunch of them stealing stuff out of the cars they parked and that was that. If you're going to hire local minorities you have to keep hiring and keep hiring and keep hiring until you eventually somewhere down the road get a bunch of them that're going to come in every day and not steal from you. Just a fact of life.
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They might just have not been qualified for even these kinds of positions. I was hiring for an office position once and had tons of applicants. It was far above "fry cook" but half of them I would hesitate to hire for that. The woman I did hire was a former Burger King manager. She told me how some people you got in there could not even handle sending the burgers and buns down the fryer and toaster. All one had to do was send a few more burgers than buns to account for doubles. Alas so many could not even grasp that. I had one dummy who got chemicals in his eye because he was filling the sprayer in a blowing wind looking right into it. We lost like half the customers on his route within months.

And we wonder why we have to tell people not to eat Tide Pods(r).
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I knew somebody years ago who worked in what was then called Personnel Department, it's called something else now. Human Resources maybe. She said by far their biggest problem was getting people to come in every day. There was always people calling in sick or having some other excuse and it was always the same group of people. They generally worked an average of three days a week when they're supposed to work 5. 90% of them were women and they would have every excuse in the book short of they got kidnapped by aliens. Biggest headache job she ever had she hated it. It's the truth that 80% of society has always been dragged along by the 20% who are extremely productive.
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That's why I never really tried to get back into management. It drains you. Once I was on a crew with a woman who said 12 days PTO a year was not enough. I told her that meant she was calling off once a month, and how would she like it if one day a month she got to work but was sent home without pay. That was years ago but meanwhile I have to burn almost 50 hours PTO the next 6 weeks so I don't lose it. Some guy used to see me in the hall and said, "Bo, you are ALWAYS here." I was like, uh, I have a full time job so yeah.
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December 27th, 2024 at 4:59:37 AM permalink
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That's why I never really tried to get back into management. It drains you. Once I was on a crew with a woman who said 12 days PTO a year was not enough. I told her that meant she was calling off once a month, and how would she like it if one day a month she got to work but was sent home without pay. That was years ago but meanwhile I have to burn almost 50 hours PTO the next 6 weeks so I don't lose it. Some guy used to see me in the hall and said, "Bo, you are ALWAYS here." I was like, uh, I have a full time job so yeah.
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At my last job in Vegas I was getting six weeks paid vacation. I don't think I ever used more than two weeks in a year. Just didn't have time as there was always things that needed to get done. I probably lost over six months of vacation in my career because I wouldn't just take random days off. I only used it when I had an actual vacation scheduled with the family.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:01:51 AM permalink
I ordered a set of two bathroom mats, the uj-shaped ones that fit around the toilet, a jug of Arm and Hammer detergent, and two dozen pairs of socks. They were expected yesterday.
I woke up to a box on my steps that felt empty. Rather than sending them in the envelope type of package, it was sent in a 12X24X6 box with one bath mat, not two. I called Walmart, and after a ten-minute wait, they promised to send one more unit immediately.
A Fed Ex truck shows up and drops off the two dozen socks. Around 2 PM, I got a notice that my laundry detergent had been dropped off, but the picture shows it was dropped at a location that was not my own. I made another phone call to Walmart, and after a short delay, the CSR told me the photo of the dropoff didn't match the photos for other dropoffs so that they would ship another. I'm a bit disturbed, so I told her I ordered it today because I have laundry to do. 5 PM, a Walmart delivery driver brings me my bath mat, again in an oversized box. The driver asked if I ordered an empty box as it was light.
At 7:15ish, another driver brings me my jug of laundry powder.
9PM, the guard at the front gate called me to tell me a non-resident had just dropped a package from Walmat off at the gate, saying it was delivered by accident.
Losing money on every sale but making it up with volume is not conducive to maintaining a profitable business.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:02:26 AM permalink
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Do you consider yourself in the 20% that are extremely productive?
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I worked just about every day of my life because I'm self-employed and I even work every day in retirement. I worked for hours today, just as I will tomorrow. I even made money for an hour which I don't consider work but it definitely is. I make money everyday at an online casino. I consider people who don't work at something everyday to be fairly useless and a burden on society.
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But someone who sits around all day playing roulette online is a productive member of society? As opposed to the guy who sits around playing video games while his Bitcoin investment quadruples.
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I don't know anybody who does that. I'm at the online casino for probably 20 minutes a day total, sometimes it's much shorter than that. Depends on how long it takes me to make my goal. Anybody who would have to play all day has no idea what they're doing. Yes if you're making money in a legitimate fashion you are considered a productive member of society. If you have to wait for somebody to give you a handout, like all your good buddies there across the street from you waiting for there new socks and for you to bring them their bagged lunch, you are not a productive member of society you are a drag on it.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:14:06 AM permalink
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I ordered a set of two bathroom mats, the uj-shaped ones that fit around the toilet, a jug of Arm and Hammer detergent, and two dozen pairs of socks. They were expected yesterday.
I woke up to a box on my steps that felt empty. Rather than sending them in the envelope type of package, it was sent in a 12X24X6 box with one bath mat, not two. I called Walmart, and after a ten-minute wait, they promised to send one more unit immediately.
A Fed Ex truck shows up and drops off the two dozen socks. Around 2 PM, I got a notice that my laundry detergent had been dropped off, but the picture shows it was dropped at a location that was not my own. I made another phone call to Walmart, and after a short delay, the CSR told me the photo of the dropoff didn't match the photos for other dropoffs so that they would ship another. I'm a bit disturbed, so I told her I ordered it today because I have laundry to do. 5 PM, a Walmart delivery driver brings me my bath mat, again in an oversized box. The driver asked if I ordered an empty box as it was light.
At 7:15ish, another driver brings me my jug of laundry powder.
9PM, the guard at the front gate called me to tell me a non-resident had just dropped a package from Walmat off at the gate, saying it was delivered by accident.
Losing money on every sale but making it up with volume is not conducive to maintaining a profitable business.
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Lesson learned, never wait till you're almost out of anything to order it if you are depending on delivery. I always stock up on everything. I have six bags of cat food. I have 6 weeks worth of canned cat food. I have 200 lb of cat litter. I have four bottles of spray cleaner. Kleenex was recently on sale for a buck-a-box and I bought 35 of them. On and on, I have multiples of everything that I use on a regular basis. I have at least a year's worth of canned food for myself. I have two chest freezers in the basement and a stand-up freezer upstairs with enough frozen food for God knows how long. Everything is a game and you have to stay a couple steps ahead of it at all times.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:22:37 AM permalink
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I ordered a set of two bathroom mats, the uj-shaped ones that fit around the toilet, a jug of Arm and Hammer detergent, and two dozen pairs of socks. They were expected yesterday.
I woke up to a box on my steps that felt empty. Rather than sending them in the envelope type of package, it was sent in a 12X24X6 box with one bath mat, not two. I called Walmart, and after a ten-minute wait, they promised to send one more unit immediately.
A Fed Ex truck shows up and drops off the two dozen socks. Around 2 PM, I got a notice that my laundry detergent had been dropped off, but the picture shows it was dropped at a location that was not my own. I made another phone call to Walmart, and after a short delay, the CSR told me the photo of the dropoff didn't match the photos for other dropoffs so that they would ship another. I'm a bit disturbed, so I told her I ordered it today because I have laundry to do. 5 PM, a Walmart delivery driver brings me my bath mat, again in an oversized box. The driver asked if I ordered an empty box as it was light.
At 7:15ish, another driver brings me my jug of laundry powder.
9PM, the guard at the front gate called me to tell me a non-resident had just dropped a package from Walmat off at the gate, saying it was delivered by accident.
Losing money on every sale but making it up with volume is not conducive to maintaining a profitable business.
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Lesson learned, never wait till you're almost out of anything to order it if you are depending on delivery. I always stock up on everything. I have six bags of cat food. I have 6 weeks worth of canned cat food. I have 200 lb of cat litter. I have four bottles of spray cleaner. Kleenex was recently on sale for a buck-a-box and I bought 35 of them. On and on, I have multiples of everything that I use on a regular basis. I have at least a year's worth of canned food for myself. I have two chest freezers in the basement and a stand-up freezer upstairs with enough frozen food for God knows how long. Everything is a game and you have to stay a couple steps ahead of it at all times.
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Even when I don't rely on delivery, I don't like to wait until the cupboard is out of toilet roll to go get more.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:24:56 AM permalink
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Even when I don't rely on delivery, I don't like to wait until the cupboard is out of toilet roll to go get more.
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I have at least a year's worth of toilet paper. Probably 2 years worth of baby wipes. How did I ever live before I discovered those things. LOL
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:28:22 AM permalink
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Even when I don't rely on delivery, I don't like to wait until the cupboard is out of toilet roll to go get more.
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I have at least a year's worth of toilet paper. Probably 2 years worth of baby wipes. How did I ever live before I discovered those things. LOL
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There is a great contrivance for moistening a bit of toilet roll, so that you can easily have a moist cleansing wipe without worrying about clogging the plumbing.

I have figured out that I can just get a drip from the tub faucet most of the time. This cuts down on baby wipe usage.
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December 27th, 2024 at 7:46:44 AM permalink
I use the JIT method. What I'll consume this week I order this week, unless I find something on a ridiculous sale.
Over the weekend, I made a list of meals for the week and ordered them for delivery tomorrow. For toilet paper, I buy six to twelve rolls at a time and order one case as I open the next. I buy wet wipes by the case, so I always have that option.
I bought a case of Oche De Lupo recently., but that's only because it is hard to find in the West.
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We might be taking one job back from the machines.

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At a Supercenter in Shrewsbury, Missouri, Walmart abruptly removed all self-checkout machines—permanently.

The decision came after years of frequent police calls tied to theft at the store, which local law enforcement says dropped dramatically after the kiosks were removed.


According to the Webster-Kirkwood Times, the Shrewsbury Police Department responded to 509 calls from the Walmart location between January and May of last year. During the same period this year, after the self-checkouts were removed, those calls dropped to just 183. Arrests fell by more than half, from 108 to just 49.

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At a Supercenter in Shrewsbury, Missouri, Walmart abruptly removed all self-checkout machines—permanently.

The decision came after years of frequent police calls tied to theft at the store, which local law enforcement says dropped dramatically after the kiosks were removed.


According to the Webster-Kirkwood Times, the Shrewsbury Police Department responded to 509 calls from the Walmart location between January and May of last year. During the same period this year, after the self-checkouts were removed, those calls dropped to just 183. Arrests fell by more than half, from 108 to just 49.


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If they are going to continue with self checkout it makes sense to bring back the receipt checkers after checkout for those that used the self checkout.
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June 20th, 2025 at 10:56:35 AM permalink
The technology exists to do away with cashiers and checkouts entirely.
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The technology exists to do away with cashiers and checkouts entirely. I have not set foot in a grocery store( grocery is an old term that seems to mean different types of food in a single bag) for at least three years. Both Walmart and Albertsons offer me substantial discounts for allowing them to deliver my groceries( that is an obscure term that means multiple bags of different things).
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June 20th, 2025 at 11:51:02 AM permalink
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If they are going to continue with self checkout it makes sense to bring back the receipt checkers after checkout for those that used the self checkout.
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Oh no, I consider that a dreadful practice. It is offensive to the normal customers, it is ineffective against motivated shoplifters, and it is unacceptably dangerous to the employee and bystanders if they encounter organized retail thieves, who are felons and sometimes armed.

No one but a cop or someone with particular, advanced security training is qualified to confront such people. But Walmart often (and admirably) hires those with mental disabilities for these public facing roles, and they absolutely should not be exposed to any kind of criminal danger. Unethical and exploitative.

It reminds me of flying late in 2001, and you would see the little girl behind the ticket counter come out and start searching people for weapons. And I'm thinking "What is going to happen if she finds a terrorist with a weapon?" Around then was when the term "security theater" was coined because you had people looking like they were doing something they weren't doing and could not really do if they needed to.
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At a Supercenter in Shrewsbury, Missouri, Walmart abruptly removed all self-checkout machines—permanently.

The decision came after years of frequent police calls tied to theft at the store, which local law enforcement says dropped dramatically after the kiosks were removed.


According to the Webster-Kirkwood Times, the Shrewsbury Police Department responded to 509 calls from the Walmart location between January and May of last year. During the same period this year, after the self-checkouts were removed, those calls dropped to just 183. Arrests fell by more than half, from 108 to just 49.


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I watch a lot of police body cam videos and there are tons of them making arrests at Walmart for people not swiping stuff during checkout. And it's never just a package of hot dogs it's usually hundreds of dollars worth of stuff. And them having to catch you in the store is BS, they can arrest you in the parking lot if you're getting into your car they can even chase you and arrest you. They not only have cameras built into the checkout now the cameras above you are so incredibly high tech. Sometimes the cops go into the surveillance room and Walmart has a bank of huge monitors and they can zoom in on anything in the store. If you're wearing a watch they could zoom in on your watch and see what time it is that's how good these cameras are. And yes of course they profile. You've got a certain demographic of people that do 90% of the shoplifting who are you going to watch when they come in the store, the 10% that never shoplifts?
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June 20th, 2025 at 3:50:02 PM permalink
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If they are going to continue with self checkout it makes sense to bring back the receipt checkers after checkout for those that used the self checkout.
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Oh no, I consider that a dreadful practice. It is offensive to the normal customers, it is ineffective against motivated shoplifters, and it is unacceptably dangerous to the employee and bystanders if they encounter organized retail thieves, who are felons and sometimes armed.



That is why I am suggesting it just for those that use the self checkout, that gives people the option of going through the regular checkout line.
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If they are going to continue with self checkout it makes sense to bring back the receipt checkers after checkout for those that used the self checkout.
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Oh no, I consider that a dreadful practice. It is offensive to the normal customers, it is ineffective against motivated shoplifters, and it is unacceptably dangerous to the employee and bystanders if they encounter organized retail thieves, who are felons and sometimes armed.
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It's ineffective against the shoplifter who crams stuff down his pants or in his jacket or in his backpack but it's very effective against people who don't scan items and and that's where a tremendous amount of shrinkage comes from at Walmart and every place else. You see it all the time in the police bodycam videos people not scanning $150 worth of steaks. By the way in the grocery department at Walmart and in every grocery store meat is the most stolen item. Even more than cosmetics which are usually locked up if they have any value. I would not even attempt shoplifting in today's climate the technology is way too sophisticated in the stores. Back in the 80s and 90s it was shoplifters paradise because there were no cameras. I've heard Walmart employees say every square foot of that store is covered by a camera, even the break room and the entire storage area in the back of the store. Only the restrooms don't have cameras. And I don't believe that, I think they have cameras in the bathroom and if they see somebody committing a crime they'll just follow them around and they won't use the footage or even tell anybody they have it.
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June 20th, 2025 at 7:09:09 PM permalink
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Costco has been doing this as long as I can remember. I've not seen any customers huffily object, "I'll have you know I'm a member in good standing!"

In Walmart I've seen people stopped by receipt checkers. The only ones acting offended were stealing something.
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Costco has been doing this as long as I can remember. I've not seen any customers huffily object, "I'll have you know I'm a member in good standing!"

In Walmart I've seen people stopped by receipt checkers. The only ones acting offended were stealing something.
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I have never consented to being searched, and only a couple of times I have had to repeat myself to an employee at the door.

I've told them "I do not consent to any searches. Am I being detained?" Most recognize those statements, their origin and their implications. And I walk right past them.

Why? You might think that's being a jerk, or creating unnecessary conflict. But I have a reason: rights that aren't periodically asserted tend to be eventually lost. Who the hell are they to detain me on their property without suspicion of a crime? And why must I consent to a search of my property (my parcels, which I have already paid for) as a condition of physical freedom of my person? If they think I've stolen something, have they called the police? Why not? Will they call the police if I walk right past them without being searched? If whatever they think is going on here isn't a big enough deal to call the police for, why is it a big enough deal to detain and search me for?

Until they can answer all of those questions reasonably, this practice does not stand up to logical scrutiny and should be reconsidered. The right to leave is an important and cherished one, and I don't want to see not having that right ever accepted by Americans who are neither enlisted nor lawfully incarcerated, and the requirement for "exit visa" is only imposed by the governments of countries where I would rather not be.

We may need to consider what is going on with us psychologically when we accept such an imposition. Notice it is done at large and powerful institutions, Walmart and Costco, companies with budgets bigger than those of some countries. But let's say a little guy tried that. An old man who owns a convenience store, and he wants to detain you and search your bags, or else you can't leave. Wouldn't that be very creepy? Wouldn't you think this is abnormal, and something bad might be about to happen to you? Why does it seem different when a Costco employee does it? Because on a subconscious we are confusing this large company with a governmental authority and its employee with a policeman, and we have been trained to comply with those institutions, unlike the man in the convenience store who we may see as a peer or inferior, with no organization backing up his claim of a right to search and detain you.

Somebody has to do it! I'm not afraid to and I know how (and why) so I volunteered. Just a few years ago, I was going around conspicuously breaking all kinds of rules that were imposed on us without any kind of a vote. For without resistance, where does it end?
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June 21st, 2025 at 4:07:47 AM permalink
You have to be a member at Costco so they can require you to show your receipt as part of the membership agreement.
You don’t like it then don’t become a member.
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You have to be a member at Costco so they can require you to show your receipt as part of the membership agreement.
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There is probably some sneak-around, like a gift card, where they let you purchase without a membership. (I let my membership lapse years ago, as it was neither more convenient nor a price savings for me.)

That said, if you're going to check receipts, make it about customer service. "Sometimes the cashiers accidentally double scan an item, and we want to make sure you're getting both the televisions you paid for."
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June 21st, 2025 at 5:47:59 AM permalink
You offer door prizes, but only on those receipts that are scanned in by the " prize patrol." stationed near each exit. Let a third of the receipts win a small prize- a BOGO coupon, but have a quarterly prize of $5,000. Enough to incentivize participation but not enough to affect the bottom line.
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You offer door prizes, but only on those receipts that are scanned in by the " prize patrol." stationed near each exit. Let a third of the receipts win a small prize- a BOGO coupon, but have a quarterly prize of $5,000. Enough to incentivize participation but not enough to affect the bottom line.
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They'll probably tie it to the app, so only subscribers benefit.

Still, a 1 in 3 chance of store credit of approximately 3% of the receipt total isn't nothin'.
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June 21st, 2025 at 8:48:54 AM permalink
I'm a dinosaur when it comes to modern marketing, but physically handing someone a BOGO coupon for future use seems much better than tieing it to the app. People like getting gifts, even if is trivial, and a paper coupon should have a smaller response than an app coupon. You generate better goodwill and have fewer redemptions. Win-Win.
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Back before covid I rented a lot of cars on weekends for a couple years to go to the casinos because Michigan didn't have online gaming yet. With the Costco membership renting cars was extremely cheap, sometimes I could rent a car for 3 days for under $40. I think I went into Costco twice and it was on a Tuesday or Wednesday in the middle of the day and the place was absolutely jammed with people. Had to drive around looking for a parking space. And stuff isn't that much cheaper than any place else, in fact Walmart was cheaper on almost everything. Yet people were in there loading up on all kinds of crap. I walked around and could not find one single thing I wanted to buy. My brother is a member now because Costco gas is so much cheaper and he says the same thing about going in the store, it's a huge waste of time.
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