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February 27th, 2023 at 2:27:13 PM permalink
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You forgot drug overdoses and auto deaths have likely shot way up as time goes on.
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Driving is the by far the most dangerous activity for most Americans. However, even with 40,000 deaths annually, that’s still only about 1/100th of one percent of the population. Very small effect on life expectancy
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February 27th, 2023 at 2:30:17 PM permalink
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You forgot drug overdoses and auto deaths have likely shot way up as time goes on.
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Auto deaths peaked in the late 70s at around 50,000 a year and have declined since. DWI enforcement, raising the drinking age, airbags, better road and car design, and young drivers honing their skills on video games are all given credit.
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Don’t confuse my narrative with your facts Bill.
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February 27th, 2023 at 2:50:43 PM permalink
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The FDA just determined that companies can call things like "Almond Milk" as milk as long as they disclose there is no dairy.
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February 27th, 2023 at 3:07:09 PM permalink
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Combined life expectancy in Japan is 85 and 88 for females

It’s gotta be due to all the processed food they eat


I'm going to refer you to EB on that one - he's an expert on Japanese eating habits - I'm sure you can imagine how health conscious the 7-eleven factories are in Japan

if men are averaging 85 in Japan there must be quite a few living to be around 92 or 93

I can't wait until I'm 93 - I'm gonna be lots of fun_________!!!!


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Not in Japan. 7-Eleven in Japan has really great food and people go there all the time to eat and buy takeout. They especially make great sandwiches and sushi all pre-made at the 7-Eleven Factory in Japan.





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February 27th, 2023 at 3:33:42 PM permalink
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Combined life expectancy in Japan is 85 and 88 for females

It’s gotta be due to all the processed food they eat


I'm going to refer you to EB on that one - he's an expert on Japanese eating habits - I'm sure you can imagine how health conscious the 7-eleven factories are in Japan

if men are averaging 85 in Japan there must be quite a few living to be around 92 or 93

I can't wait until I'm 93 - I'm gonna be lots of fun_________!!!!


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Not in Japan. 7-Eleven in Japan has really great food and people go there all the time to eat and buy takeout. They especially make great sandwiches and sushi all pre-made at the 7-Eleven Factory in Japan.





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I wonder how infalted the prices are? I didn't notice any drug dealers, crackheads, or panhandlers camped outside.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 27th, 2023 at 4:51:11 PM permalink
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I can't wait until I'm 93 - I'm gonna be lots of fun_________!!!!




Wow, living to 63 scares me.
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February 28th, 2023 at 1:53:08 PM permalink
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I can't wait until I'm 93 - I'm gonna be lots of fun_________!!!!




Wow, living to 63 scares me.
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My expiration date is when I turn 82.

I know this because an insurance company told me.

When I retired, I received a pension. Shortly after I retired the company was bought by new owners. Instead of dealing with monthly pension payments, the new owners offered you a lump sum distribution based on your life expectancy instead of a monthly pension check. According to the life insurance charts, I would live to the age of 82.
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March 4th, 2023 at 4:31:54 PM permalink
Remember the "Dry" Beer craze of the 1990s? Followed by the Ice Beer craze. Lately I keep thinking I'd like to see the drys make a comeback.
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March 5th, 2023 at 11:51:23 AM permalink
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Remember the "Dry" Beer craze of the 1990s? Followed by the Ice Beer craze. Lately I keep thinking I'd like to see the drys make a comeback.
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"With the introduction of Bud Ice in 1994, Bud Dry was bumped from the top three beers in terms of marketing. It declined in mainstream popularity and was discontinued in December 2010."

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March 5th, 2023 at 5:53:16 PM permalink
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"With the introduction of Bud Ice in 1994, Bud Dry was bumped from the top three beers in terms of marketing. It declined in mainstream popularity and was discontinued in December 2010."

1994 AD or 1994 EBC (EvenBob calendar, so 1991 to everyone else ) ?
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March 14th, 2023 at 7:42:10 AM permalink
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original gangstas - one of the greatest movies of all time imho

at 7:03 the cop says a very dirty word - the movie is from '61 - I didn't think they ever used language like that in the movies at that time






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March 18th, 2023 at 1:05:12 PM permalink
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the popular Dick Van Dyke show had to show separate twin beds for husband and wife

the censors would not allow the filming of husband and wife in the same bed on TV






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March 18th, 2023 at 1:13:19 PM permalink
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the popular Dick Van Dyke show had to show separate twin beds for husband and wife

the censors would not allow the filming of husband and wife in the same bed on TV






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My wife and I always get two beds when we stay at a hotel. It is a treat to have a bed to myself as usually it is shared with at least one wife and two large dogs.
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March 18th, 2023 at 1:14:56 PM permalink
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the popular Dick Van Dyke show had to show separate twin beds for husband and wife

the censors would not allow the filming of husband and wife in the same bed on TV






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I knew my family was poor since my parents could only afford to sleep in one bed. The Ricardos were married in real life but slept in two beds on their show. The Mertzs were not married in real life, but slept in the same bed in at least one episode.
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March 18th, 2023 at 5:40:04 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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the popular Dick Van Dyke show had to show separate twin beds for husband and wife

the censors would not allow the filming of husband and wife in the same bed on TV






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As someone who is kicked in the kidneys until dawn by ferocious daughters (when they're in range), this is highly appealing.
I often go off to one of their beds when they invade.

Not a problem when I'm travelling. Blissful solitude, and no reading light left on.
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March 18th, 2023 at 6:37:06 PM permalink
Just seen on trivia,the Nevada prison system had a casino from 1932-1967. Anyone remember this or know anything about?
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March 19th, 2023 at 9:17:55 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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original gangstas - one of the greatest movies of all time imho

at 7:03 the cop says a very dirty word - the movie is from '61 - I didn't think they ever used language like that in the movies at that time






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I hear "you punks", what do you hear?
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March 19th, 2023 at 10:23:53 AM permalink
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Quote: lilredrooster

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original gangstas - one of the greatest movies of all time imho

at 7:03 the cop says a very dirty word - the movie is from '61 - I didn't think they ever used language like that in the movies at that time






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I hear "you punks", what do you hear?
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don't want to say what I actually hear because my understanding is I can get suspended for "masking" even if I don't write it exactly
I'll just let it go

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March 19th, 2023 at 10:35:13 AM permalink
I recall when gas cost 1/15th of what it does today, and full size candy bars were a nickel.

Remember when your folks went into a car dealer, sat down with a salesman and ordered the specific options for their new car?

The order was sent to Detroit and it was spec built to their exact specifications.

These days that doesn't seem to be the norm: heck, is it even possible, or must you at best settle for option packages?
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March 19th, 2023 at 11:01:30 AM permalink
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I recall when gas cost 1/15th of what it does today, and full size candy bars were a nickel.

Remember when your folks went into a car dealer, sat down with a salesman and ordered the specific options for their new car?

The order was sent to Detroit and it was spec built to their exact specifications.

These days that doesn't seem to be the norm: heck, is it even possible, or must you at best settle for option packages?
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Depends on the model. Pickup trucks still somewhat common to spec order since there are so many options and buyers may have particular needs. Cars like Corvette same deal same reason.

More common cars? I was pricing Tucsons once. You put I. Your specs snd it looked to see if what you wanted was available so call that a hybrid of special order and buy from stock.

There are YouTube videos on how to special order so it goes still happen.
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March 19th, 2023 at 11:14:02 AM permalink
Good to know.

When we bought our new Mazda neither the dealer nor his brochures mentioned the possibility of "build to order," and I've not seen it mentioned in the car magazines I subscribe to.
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March 19th, 2023 at 11:28:23 AM permalink
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Good to know.

When we bought our new Mazda neither the dealer nor his brochures mentioned the possibility of "build to order," and I've not seen it mentioned in the car magazines I subscribe to.
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In 2015, I wanted a red Mazda Six. I was told they had no control over what models or features they may get. The next red Six might be a sports model, a touring model or the premium model costing several thousand more. I had to give a deposit to get my color. As it turned out, the next red one was the touring model I wanted.

Two of my friends ordered custom Chevys in 1978. One ordered a Nova Rally SS and was told it would be 8-10 months. It was never built and it took forever to get his money back.
The other orddered a Camaro that showed up six months later with the wrong trim package and unwanted t-tops.
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March 19th, 2023 at 2:36:29 PM permalink
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Just seen on trivia,the Nevada prison system had a casino from 1932-1967. Anyone remember this or know anything about?
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There was a thread here about it a while back.

Gaming tokens will pop up on ebay every now and then.
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March 19th, 2023 at 2:58:34 PM permalink
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Remember when your folks went into a car dealer, sat down with a salesman and ordered the specific options for their new car?



I still do that with a lot of my cars. When I buy German cars it is about a 10 week lead time.
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March 19th, 2023 at 3:01:20 PM permalink
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When I buy German cars it is about a 10 week lead time.
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Almost as impressive as the Brioni suits!
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March 19th, 2023 at 3:02:54 PM permalink
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When I buy German cars it is about a 10 week lead time.
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Almost as impressive as the Brioni suits!
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One Brioni suit and I usually just buy small BMW convertibles. Nothing fancy.
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March 19th, 2023 at 3:03:28 PM permalink
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Just seen on trivia,the Nevada prison system had a casino from 1932-1967. Anyone remember this or know anything about?
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There was a thread here about it a while back.

Gaming tokens will pop up on ebay every now and then.
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thank you.did not realize that
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March 19th, 2023 at 3:10:53 PM permalink
I have been wanting to buy one of these but $235 is a little more than I want to spend. This is an actual circulated note. The $100 million dollar note is only $11 so I might settle for that.

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March 19th, 2023 at 3:16:51 PM permalink
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I have been wanting to buy one of these but $235 is a little more than I want to spend. This is an actual circulated note. The $100 million dollar note is only $11 so I might settle for that.


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I think the peak of opportunity was 2010-2012.
I saw prices getting stupid after that.

I used a $100 Billion note next to a picture of Dr. Evil as cubicle decor for a while, and there were a few $1 Millions sitting in the junk drawer when I moved.
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March 19th, 2023 at 6:02:46 PM permalink
Ironic that a 100 trillion Zimbabwean note, literally not worth the paper it’s printed on, is now selling for $235
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March 19th, 2023 at 6:36:07 PM permalink
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Ironic that a 100 trillion Zimbabwean note, literally not worth the paper it’s printed on, is now selling for $235
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The artwork of the uh... stack of rocks must be worth something.
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March 20th, 2023 at 8:30:15 AM permalink
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Ironic that a 100 trillion Zimbabwean note, literally not worth the paper it’s printed on, is now selling for $235
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The artwork of the uh... stack of rocks must be worth something.
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Thanks for that little rabbit hole...

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/balancing-rocks-of-the-zimbabwe-dollar

Apparently, the rock formation's main claim to fame is that it was featured on the money, and now it is called "The Money Rock".
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March 20th, 2023 at 9:31:17 AM permalink
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Ironic that a 100 trillion Zimbabwean note, literally not worth the paper it’s printed on, is now selling for $235
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The artwork of the uh... stack of rocks must be worth something.
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Thanks for that little rabbit hole...

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/balancing-rocks-of-the-zimbabwe-dollar

Apparently, the rock formation's main claim to fame is that it was featured on the money, and now it is called "The Money Rock".
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I was hoping it wasn't a picture of the founders.
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March 21st, 2023 at 1:16:17 PM permalink
Remember when "data processing" was considered a job title? Back in the day you never really knew what "date processing" meant or what they did all day. It for some reason the other day I was thinking my job is probably "data processing" in many ways. I guess back in the 80s and early 90s it made office workers feel more important.
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March 21st, 2023 at 1:31:23 PM permalink
I went to take a computer course around 1984, and it was nothing like a home Apple computer. It was this.
1964 IBM 029 Keypunch Card Punching Demonstration - YouTube
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March 21st, 2023 at 1:32:34 PM permalink
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I went to take a computer course around 1984, and it was nothing like a home Apple computer. It was this.
1964 IBM 029 Keypunch Card Punching Demonstration - YouTube


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1984? That was the PC age?
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March 21st, 2023 at 1:34:32 PM permalink
I remember people who said they worked in "data processing" but, yeah, never thought about what it was. I think I thought it might involve punch cards or something because it sounded like something where a machine was used.
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March 21st, 2023 at 2:36:27 PM permalink
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I went to take a computer course around 1984, and it was nothing like a home Apple computer. It was this.
1964 IBM 029 Keypunch Card Punching Demonstration - YouTube


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That is the machine I started on in the 1980's. The computers had no keyboards and no monitors. All input was via punch card, and all output was via a line printer.

My first checkers game I wrote you had to run to the card punch and make a card for every move (eg. A1 B2), then run to the card reader and feed it in. The printer then printed a whole new board with every move.
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March 21st, 2023 at 3:21:23 PM permalink
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I went to take a computer course around 1984, and it was nothing like a home Apple computer. It was this.
1964 IBM 029 Keypunch Card Punching Demonstration - YouTube


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That is the machine I started on in the 1980's. The computers had no keyboards and no monitors. All input was via punch card, and all output was via a line printer.

My first checkers game I wrote you had to run to the card punch and make a card for every move (eg. A1 B2), then run to the card reader and feed it in. The printer then printed a whole new board with every move.
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Are you sure you do not mean the 60s or 70s? Punch cards would have been gone by the 80s. The IBM PC would have been used after 1981,
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March 21st, 2023 at 3:45:59 PM permalink
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I went to take a computer course around 1984, and it was nothing like a home Apple computer. It was this.
1964 IBM 029 Keypunch Card Punching Demonstration - YouTube


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That is the machine I started on in the 1980's. The computers had no keyboards and no monitors. All input was via punch card, and all output was via a line printer.

My first checkers game I wrote you had to run to the card punch and make a card for every move (eg. A1 B2), then run to the card reader and feed it in. The printer then printed a whole new board with every move.
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Are you sure you do not mean the 60s or 70s? Punch cards would have been gone by the 80s. The IBM PC would have been used after 1981,
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Punch cards lasted a surprisingly long time. Think public schools and government systems. My university taught FORTRAN using punch cards into the late 80's.
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March 21st, 2023 at 5:24:56 PM permalink
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Are you sure you do not mean the 60s or 70s? Punch cards would have been gone by the 80s. The IBM PC would have been used after 1981,
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Nope started programming in 1981 and worked on the IBM-360/30 until 1984. I started programming in Fortran 66 on that machine and then learned COBOL on it. I bought an Apple ][e in 1984 and programmed professionally on that until about 1987.

In 1984 I got a 300 baud acoustic modem for my terminal and I was then one of the "cool" kids (read that as Nerd). The display on that terminal was 24 lines by 80 characters. Everytime you scrolled down one line it had to redraw the whole screen. It would take over one minute just to scroll down one line.

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March 21st, 2023 at 6:31:22 PM permalink
Like the Timex Sinclair 1000 sneaking into the frame.
About 1984 I obtained a Hayes SmartModem 300 and immediately racked up a huge phone bill calling BBSes around the country. Then I ponied up for a CompUServe acct. with a local access number and kept that account for about a dozen years. Even had a CompUServe branded credit card that had my ID embossed on the front.
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March 21st, 2023 at 6:54:09 PM permalink
What was the computer in electronic magazines? It was more like an electronic kit. I don't know that it did much more than a calculator. I can't find a picture that looks like anything I remember. Probably in the 70's?
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March 21st, 2023 at 7:53:28 PM permalink
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What was the computer in electronic magazines? It was more like an electronic kit. I don't know that it did much more than a calculator. I can't find a picture that looks like anything I remember. Probably in the 70's?
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Practicaly every home computer before 1977 was sold as a kit in electronics mags.

https://oldcomputers.net/
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March 21st, 2023 at 9:40:33 PM permalink
According to Steve Wozniak, the early Apple III had "100 percent hardware failures".

1987: March - Apple Computer makes its 1 millionth Macintosh personal computer.
1987: Apple Computer begins shipping the Macintosh II.

The Macintosh II is a personal computer designed, manufactured, and sold by Apple Computer from March 1987 to January 1990. Based on the Motorola 68020 32-bit CPU, it is the first Macintosh supporting color graphics. When introduced, a basic system with monitor and 20 MB hard drive cost US $5,498. - Yeah, I didn't have that kind of money

The Motorola 68020 accessed memory 32 bits at a time. The Intel Pentium Pro is also a 32 bit cpu, but some versions had 36 bits of addressing, that required using address translation schemes.
Reference: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/8-bit-32-bit-64-bit-processors.536630/
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March 21st, 2023 at 9:59:44 PM permalink
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According to Steve Wozniak, the early Apple III had "100 percent hardware failures".
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(trimmed)

I believe one of the factory recommended repair techniques was to pick the computer up about 5 inches and drop it.
Heat cycling would cause some chips to rise up out of their sockets; dropping the computer would tend to push them back in and make it start working.

Percussive maintenance is (was?) real.
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March 21st, 2023 at 10:54:03 PM permalink
In the Fall of 1976, one of my fraternity brothers got his father to buy him a computer for a business he wanted to start. The project was supposed to cost around $15,000 but was closer to $25,000 and took almost a year to complete. It took up most of a room and needed its own air conditioner. Gary's business failed, but he hooked up with some other guys from a start-up called Computer Associates and did very well for himself.
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March 22nd, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM permalink
Remember layaway?

A few stores still have it. But I think it's dying. I think what substitutes for it is like what Best Buy uses. You pay no interest on a credit card purchase, and if the product is paid for before that date it is interest free. Miss it, and an exorbitant interest fee kicks in. One difference, is the product doesn't sit in a back room until paid off.

I don't remember what fee layaway had for penalties. I assume it was minor until companies figured out how many ways to Sunday, they could hack out new fees on top of actual selling price.
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March 22nd, 2023 at 6:45:44 AM permalink
I too think layaway is mostly gone, with installment payment services like klarna and afterpay trying to fill the niche.

I seem to remember a big kerfuffle when a store went out of business (possibly bankrupt) and customers could not get the layaway items nor their money back. (No, I don't remember the specifics.)
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March 22nd, 2023 at 7:18:52 AM permalink
Layaway was more about limited run items or sale items. Clothing was one of the biggest things, more women's than men's. Also could lock in the sale price of an item.

It was also before Capitol One would give your dog a credit card.

Stores probably liked it because you had to keep coming back in to make the payments, maybe buy something else.
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