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July 18th, 2021 at 4:43:20 AM permalink
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Have you been to Ellis Island lately?

Oh, sure, luxury-wise itís near the back of the back, but certainly not last.

And theyíve been fixing it up in recent years. It canít come close to the places already discussed, but itís kinda nice.



Casinos shouldn't be, "Kind of nice," the big ones should basically be dumps. Some small ones can be, "Kind of nice." "Really nice," gets you Triple-Zero Roulette, which started at The Venetian.

The Venetian doesn't even look like a casino; it looks like a museum, and not in a good way.

Not that there's anything to appreciate, but who really appreciates being at The Venetian, anyway? A not insignificant percentage of the visitors will be just as drunk or high as they would have gotten anywhere else...they'll just generally lose more money to do it. Or, if not with a high enough expected loss to be comped, will pay more money outright to do it.

Why gamble at The Venetian? Because it's classy? That way, when a person is barely hanging on to the rail of the $25 Minimum Craps Table to remain upright, glassy-eyed, making inappropriate comments to the cocktail waitress, slurring speech and then losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars and passing out in bed for fifteen hours only after regurgitating into the $400 toilet three times when they finally do make it up to the room---they can at least say they did it in a classy way?

The Venetian is a joke and it's one of the punchlines in the greater comedy that is called, "The Las Vegas Strip." It should be mourned, not celebrated. It was born on the day that real gambling was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
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July 18th, 2021 at 6:23:07 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Have you been to Ellis Island lately?

Oh, sure, luxury-wise itís near the back of the back, but certainly not last.

And theyíve been fixing it up in recent years. It canít come close to the places already discussed, but itís kinda nice.

Actually I have, it is my go-to place for breakfast at least a couple of times a week when I am in Vegas.

Yes, they have been investing there, Nice tiled floor now instead of concrete, and they have "The Yard" open now (saw it, but didn't go in). We were going to do Karaoke one night, but the guy at the door said it would be a $ 20 drink minimum. I thought that was out of character for EI. Oh well.

The drink service there was also hit or miss in early July. Sign of the times as well ?
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July 18th, 2021 at 6:30:42 AM permalink
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Why gamble at The Venetian? Because it's classy? That way, when a person is barely hanging on to the rail of the $25 Minimum Craps Table to remain upright, glassy-eyed, making inappropriate comments to the cocktail waitress, slurring speech and then losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars and passing out in bed for fifteen hours only after regurgitating into the $400 toilet three times when they finally do make it up to the room---they can at least say they did it in a classy way?

OK, Couldn't this train of thought be applied to all of Vegas ?

I know I have multiple gambling options much, much closer to home and easy to drive to. IF Caesars continues to water-down the perks for reaching DIAMOND, then Vegas will lose its appeal, at least to me. DIAMOND addressed some of the things I disliked about Vegas, ie:

- Resort Fees
- Standing in Long Lines to Check-in
- Standing in Long Lines for a Buffet
- High Prices for Show Tickets ( just High Roller and Bodies the Exhibit available in April / June / July )
- Busy / Overpriced Bars ( Diamond Lounges are closed and now, but require even more TC's to get into )
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July 18th, 2021 at 6:37:41 AM permalink
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I'm the opposite. I care far more for my room than what the lobby looks like. Different strokes and all of that.



I could agree if we were just comparing the cheapest room at each property, but one person was already mentioning high roller suites that would not be practical for 99.9% of the population.
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July 18th, 2021 at 6:39:35 AM permalink
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Actually I have, it is my go-to place for breakfast at least a couple of times a week when I am in Vegas.

Yes, they have been investing there, Nice tiled floor now instead of concrete, and they have "The Yard" open now (saw it, but didn't go in). We were going to do Karaoke one night, but the guy at the door said it would be a $ 20 drink minimum. I thought that was out of character for EI. Oh well.

The drink service there was also hit or miss in early July. Sign of the times as well ?



Tile instead of concrete? What kind of pretentious (remainder of post omitted to avoid profanity suspension).
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July 18th, 2021 at 6:51:48 AM permalink
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OK, Couldn't this train of thought be applied to all of Vegas ?

I know I have multiple gambling options much, much closer to home and easy to drive to. IF Caesars continues to water-down the perks for reaching DIAMOND, then Vegas will lose its appeal, at least to me. DIAMOND addressed some of the things I disliked about Vegas, ie:

- Resort Fees
- Standing in Long Lines to Check-in
- Standing in Long Lines for a Buffet
- High Prices for Show Tickets ( just High Roller and Bodies the Exhibit available in April / June / July )
- Busy / Overpriced Bars ( Diamond Lounges are closed and now, but require even more TC's to get into )



No, because many jurisdictions do not allow for free drinks and/or the casinos choose not to offer them for all players.

Some Vegas casinos are good for staying/playing and drinking for next to nothing if you play your (Video Poker or Tables) cards right, so Vegas at least has that, for now.

Of course, I no longer drink, so I have no use for Las Vegas. Thereís nothing else in the entire city that appeals to me. You can find great restaurants in any major city and everything else about Vegas is just a second-rate version of what it is elsewhere, except the physical properties of the casinos. Most other cities with casinos have second-rate casinos, in that aspect and sometimes others.

But, if I were to go to Vegas, it wouldnít be to marvel in wide-eyed wonder at a bunch of stupid columns, chandeliers and artÖit would be to gambleÖand the number of places to do that at justifiable value continues to decrease. Even if that did have any real value, like a helium high, you come down off of it in seconds.

I guess the Video Poker is still pretty good some places, so thereís that.

Provided you trust the software, if you want a decent bet, the easiest place to find it these days is online.

Another aspect of visiting other cities compared to L.V. Strip is that you pay money and get something of non-zero value for it, unlike Resort Fees, which get you exactly what you would have received before the fees were created.

Please provide me a list of what this fee gets me. Oh, so do I still have to pay it if I am not going to use any of these things? I do? Why? That doesnít seem fair.

I couldnít imagine staying on the Strip and actually paying for a room with cash money. $35 Resort Fee that gets you what Best Westerns include with the price of the room, not to mention many even lower economy hotels.

Hereís a refrigerator where we will charge you if you accidentally so much as breathe on anything. Thatís wonderful. I prefer my hotel refrigerators empty, thank you.
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July 18th, 2021 at 7:20:09 AM permalink
How would someone even plan a Vegas trip? There will probably be three new fees introduced just in the time between your takeoff and your landing.
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July 18th, 2021 at 7:53:07 AM permalink
Landing fee.
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July 18th, 2021 at 8:05:09 AM permalink
I mean, am I the @$$4O!3 on this one? The Roulette has three zeroes:

(18/39) - (21/39) = 7.69231% House Edge

We're talking about some bets that are Even Money or 2-To-1 bets.

What would be more efficient is just to rob them at gunpoint when they walk in the door. It's a bloodbath.

The only difference with armed robbery is the perverse adrenaline rush that would come with being robbed at gunpoint would likely be much stronger, also, you'd at least have an interesting story that you could tell people for the rest of your life.

Hey, I have an idea! Let's have Craps, except CO Seven is a Push on the DP and a point established on the PL results in either having to Surrender or add half to your Pass Line bet. Wouldn't that be fun?

"Blank Card Blackjack," is a brand new game guaranteed to result in thrilling excitement. In order to build suspense, ten cards in each deck have been selected to be blank cards. When a player draws a blank card, it counts as zero and the player can take no further action that hand. Blank cards for the dealer are ignored.

https://www.venetian.com/casino/table-games/roulette-basic-rules.html

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We also offer an exciting new version, Sands Roulette, where an additional betting option is added.



See, it's an, "Additional Betting Option."

If the numbers don't get to where they like them, then there may be further, "Additional betting options."

"Three-Way Roulette," is an exciting new game with almost endless betting options! Bet against green like you never have before by picking BOTH red and black at the same time. This exciting new variation offers an easy way to win $5, by betting on both red and black at the same time! You are twice as likely to win as lose with 36 spots that win and eighteen that don't. Winning $5 has never been easier! (Table Minimum: $15)
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July 18th, 2021 at 8:05:40 AM permalink
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Landing fee.



"But, sir, I'm the pilot."
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