What are the most luxurious properties on the Strip?
What other properties are *at least* as good (not merely a close fourth)?
Do any of Area, Caesars, Cosmo, or Mandalay Bay make the cut?
I'm thinking of Palazzo as a step below Venetian, and Encore as a step below Wynn, because without the parent properly, the sister property wouldn't be nearly as special.
I've heard fantastic things about the MGM Mansions but never been there myself.
I prefer PARIS.
Although, when you factor in price, you can get something pretty nice at BALLY's for less than the others, and I may try to stay there again next time. Separate His/Her Closets, Separate His/Her Sinks, and a big jetted garden tub, view of about 2/3rds of the Bellagio Fountain Show. This was in an "Executive Suite".
So, is the question, ROOMS or COMMON AREAS ? And sorry to complicate things ! But who doesn't love a good debate ?
And in 99th place, Ellis Island.
Quote: DRichI agree, the common areas of Venetian are probably the nicest in town. Every resort has nice high roller suites but I discount those and would only consider the common areas.
I'm the opposite. I care far more for my room than what the lobby looks like. Different strokes and all of that.
Quote: MichaelBluejayWell, I haven't stayed at any of them, except Wynn and Encore. I'm kind of going by the luxury of the common areas. This shot of the Venetian lobby is why it's top-tier to me. It's a slightly different experience than, say, Slot-A-Fun.
Yeah, but Slots-A-Fun is a casino, so it’s not really fair to compare the two.
(Yes, I know Venetian is a casino.)
((Watch them come out of the woodwork to say, “Mission didn’t even know The Venetian was a casino,” otherwise.))
Have you been to Ellis Island lately?Quote: JohnnyQ… And in 99th place, Ellis Island.
Oh, sure, luxury-wise it’s near the back of the back, but certainly not last.
And they’ve been fixing it up in recent years. It can’t come close to the places already discussed, but it’s kinda nice.
Quote: DJTeddyBearHave you been to Ellis Island lately?
Oh, sure, luxury-wise it’s near the back of the back, but certainly not last.
And they’ve been fixing it up in recent years. It can’t come close to the places already discussed, but it’s kinda nice.
Casinos shouldn't be, "Kind of nice," the big ones should basically be dumps. Some small ones can be, "Kind of nice." "Really nice," gets you Triple-Zero Roulette, which started at The Venetian.
The Venetian doesn't even look like a casino; it looks like a museum, and not in a good way.
Not that there's anything to appreciate, but who really appreciates being at The Venetian, anyway? A not insignificant percentage of the visitors will be just as drunk or high as they would have gotten anywhere else...they'll just generally lose more money to do it. Or, if not with a high enough expected loss to be comped, will pay more money outright to do it.
Why gamble at The Venetian? Because it's classy? That way, when a person is barely hanging on to the rail of the $25 Minimum Craps Table to remain upright, glassy-eyed, making inappropriate comments to the cocktail waitress, slurring speech and then losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars and passing out in bed for fifteen hours only after regurgitating into the $400 toilet three times when they finally do make it up to the room---they can at least say they did it in a classy way?
The Venetian is a joke and it's one of the punchlines in the greater comedy that is called, "The Las Vegas Strip." It should be mourned, not celebrated. It was born on the day that real gambling was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
Actually I have, it is my go-to place for breakfast at least a couple of times a week when I am in Vegas.Quote: DJTeddyBearHave you been to Ellis Island lately?
Oh, sure, luxury-wise it’s near the back of the back, but certainly not last.
And they’ve been fixing it up in recent years. It can’t come close to the places already discussed, but it’s kinda nice.
Yes, they have been investing there, Nice tiled floor now instead of concrete, and they have "The Yard" open now (saw it, but didn't go in). We were going to do Karaoke one night, but the guy at the door said it would be a $ 20 drink minimum. I thought that was out of character for EI. Oh well.
The drink service there was also hit or miss in early July. Sign of the times as well ?
OK, Couldn't this train of thought be applied to all of Vegas ?Quote: Mission146Why gamble at The Venetian? Because it's classy? That way, when a person is barely hanging on to the rail of the $25 Minimum Craps Table to remain upright, glassy-eyed, making inappropriate comments to the cocktail waitress, slurring speech and then losing thousands or tens of thousands of dollars and passing out in bed for fifteen hours only after regurgitating into the $400 toilet three times when they finally do make it up to the room---they can at least say they did it in a classy way?
I know I have multiple gambling options much, much closer to home and easy to drive to. IF Caesars continues to water-down the perks for reaching DIAMOND, then Vegas will lose its appeal, at least to me. DIAMOND addressed some of the things I disliked about Vegas, ie:
- Resort Fees
- Standing in Long Lines to Check-in
- Standing in Long Lines for a Buffet
- High Prices for Show Tickets ( just High Roller and Bodies the Exhibit available in April / June / July )
- Busy / Overpriced Bars ( Diamond Lounges are closed and now, but require even more TC's to get into )
Quote: billryanI'm the opposite. I care far more for my room than what the lobby looks like. Different strokes and all of that.
I could agree if we were just comparing the cheapest room at each property, but one person was already mentioning high roller suites that would not be practical for 99.9% of the population.
Quote: JohnnyQActually I have, it is my go-to place for breakfast at least a couple of times a week when I am in Vegas.
Yes, they have been investing there, Nice tiled floor now instead of concrete, and they have "The Yard" open now (saw it, but didn't go in). We were going to do Karaoke one night, but the guy at the door said it would be a $ 20 drink minimum. I thought that was out of character for EI. Oh well.
The drink service there was also hit or miss in early July. Sign of the times as well ?
Tile instead of concrete? What kind of pretentious (remainder of post omitted to avoid profanity suspension).
Quote: JohnnyQOK, Couldn't this train of thought be applied to all of Vegas ?
I know I have multiple gambling options much, much closer to home and easy to drive to. IF Caesars continues to water-down the perks for reaching DIAMOND, then Vegas will lose its appeal, at least to me. DIAMOND addressed some of the things I disliked about Vegas, ie:
- Resort Fees
- Standing in Long Lines to Check-in
- Standing in Long Lines for a Buffet
- High Prices for Show Tickets ( just High Roller and Bodies the Exhibit available in April / June / July )
- Busy / Overpriced Bars ( Diamond Lounges are closed and now, but require even more TC's to get into )
No, because many jurisdictions do not allow for free drinks and/or the casinos choose not to offer them for all players.
Some Vegas casinos are good for staying/playing and drinking for next to nothing if you play your (Video Poker or Tables) cards right, so Vegas at least has that, for now.
Of course, I no longer drink, so I have no use for Las Vegas. There’s nothing else in the entire city that appeals to me. You can find great restaurants in any major city and everything else about Vegas is just a second-rate version of what it is elsewhere, except the physical properties of the casinos. Most other cities with casinos have second-rate casinos, in that aspect and sometimes others.
But, if I were to go to Vegas, it wouldn’t be to marvel in wide-eyed wonder at a bunch of stupid columns, chandeliers and art…it would be to gamble…and the number of places to do that at justifiable value continues to decrease. Even if that did have any real value, like a helium high, you come down off of it in seconds.
I guess the Video Poker is still pretty good some places, so there’s that.
Provided you trust the software, if you want a decent bet, the easiest place to find it these days is online.
Another aspect of visiting other cities compared to L.V. Strip is that you pay money and get something of non-zero value for it, unlike Resort Fees, which get you exactly what you would have received before the fees were created.
Please provide me a list of what this fee gets me. Oh, so do I still have to pay it if I am not going to use any of these things? I do? Why? That doesn’t seem fair.
I couldn’t imagine staying on the Strip and actually paying for a room with cash money. $35 Resort Fee that gets you what Best Westerns include with the price of the room, not to mention many even lower economy hotels.
Here’s a refrigerator where we will charge you if you accidentally so much as breathe on anything. That’s wonderful. I prefer my hotel refrigerators empty, thank you.
(18/39) - (21/39) = 7.69231% House Edge
We're talking about some bets that are Even Money or 2-To-1 bets.
What would be more efficient is just to rob them at gunpoint when they walk in the door. It's a bloodbath.
The only difference with armed robbery is the perverse adrenaline rush that would come with being robbed at gunpoint would likely be much stronger, also, you'd at least have an interesting story that you could tell people for the rest of your life.
Hey, I have an idea! Let's have Craps, except CO Seven is a Push on the DP and a point established on the PL results in either having to Surrender or add half to your Pass Line bet. Wouldn't that be fun?
"Blank Card Blackjack," is a brand new game guaranteed to result in thrilling excitement. In order to build suspense, ten cards in each deck have been selected to be blank cards. When a player draws a blank card, it counts as zero and the player can take no further action that hand. Blank cards for the dealer are ignored.
https://www.venetian.com/casino/table-games/roulette-basic-rules.html
Quote:We also offer an exciting new version, Sands Roulette, where an additional betting option is added.
See, it's an, "Additional Betting Option."
If the numbers don't get to where they like them, then there may be further, "Additional betting options."
"Three-Way Roulette," is an exciting new game with almost endless betting options! Bet against green like you never have before by picking BOTH red and black at the same time. This exciting new variation offers an easy way to win $5, by betting on both red and black at the same time! You are twice as likely to win as lose with 36 spots that win and eighteen that don't. Winning $5 has never been easier! (Table Minimum: $15)
Quote: MichaelBluejayLanding fee.
"But, sir, I'm the pilot."
Quote: Mission146
What would be more efficient is just to rob them at gunpoint when they walk in the door. It's a bloodbath.
Returning players club members at select preferred tier levels will only have 80% robbed.
It's like a loss rebate.
Quote: DieterReturning players club members at select preferred tier levels will only have 80% robbed.
It's like a loss rebate.
Yeah, but they can only get to that level by having at least twice as much on them to be robbed in the first place.
Quote: Mission146If the numbers don't get to where they like them, then there may be further, "Additional betting options."
"Three-Way Roulette," is an exciting new game with almost endless betting options! Bet against green like you never have before by picking BOTH red and black at the same time. This exciting new variation offers an easy way to win $5, by betting on both red and black at the same time! You are twice as likely to win as lose with 36 spots that win and eighteen that don't. Winning $5 has never been easier! (Table Minimum: $15)
I understood that part, until I got to the part in bold. They should call it the Tom Hanks Bet - "as seen on TV as performed by multiple Oscar winner Tom Hanks!" (and he did, too, in an episode of Bosom Buddies where they spend an elevator accident settlement on a trip to Monte Carlo and invent the TV Trope of betting half of your entire bankroll on red and the other half on blank - and the wheel comes up green). Anyway, how do you come up with "36 spots that win and 18 that don't"?
Venetian, Wynn, Bellagio in some order has to be the answer.
Quote: Mission146Yeah, but they can only get to that level by having at least twice as much on them to be robbed in the first place.
Of course, I meant "well qualified returning players club members at select preferred tier levels".
My mistake.
Once they hit 18 zeroes, odds on big six are gonna look pretty good.
Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: Mission146If the numbers don't get to where they like them, then there may be further, "Additional betting options."
"Three-Way Roulette," is an exciting new game with almost endless betting options! Bet against green like you never have before by picking BOTH red and black at the same time. This exciting new variation offers an easy way to win $5, by betting on both red and black at the same time! You are twice as likely to win as lose with 36 spots that win and eighteen that don't. Winning $5 has never been easier! (Table Minimum: $15)
I understood that part, until I got to the part in bold. They should call it the Tom Hanks Bet - "as seen on TV as performed by multiple Oscar winner Tom Hanks!" (and he did, too, in an episode of Bosom Buddies where they spend an elevator accident settlement on a trip to Monte Carlo and invent the TV Trope of betting half of your entire bankroll on red and the other half on blank - and the wheel comes up green). Anyway, how do you come up with "36 spots that win and 18 that don't"?
You could also call the game, "Eighteen-Zero," Roulette.
Quote: DRichI could agree if we were just comparing the cheapest room at each property, but one person was already mentioning high roller suites that would not be practical for 99.9% of the population.
It's an opinion survey. all responses are valid, even if they are wrong.
I was crazy for the Venetian, the first time I stayed there in 2001. Loved everything about the place. When I stayed there around 2012, it had started to age and lose its edge. I visited friends who were staying there two years ago and was disappointed to see it had not changed much.
Other's opinions will vary. I'm sure first-time visitors will still be awed by it.
Quote: MichaelBluejayOff the top of my head, I'm thinking Bellagio, Venetian, and Wynn as the top three.
What other properties are *at least* as good (not merely a close fourth)?
Do any of Area, Caesars, Cosmo, or Mandalay Bay make the cut?.
The first time I walked through Aria I was wowed. It was the most stunning property I had ever seen. I’d still put it at #1. I really like the high ceilings.
I think Aria is far nicer than Bellagio. Bellagio is a bit overrated for what it actually is.
I haven’t been to Venetian in several years but I thought it was just fine.
Caesars looks dated to me. And like it’s trying too hard. I dislike the faux columns and statues. I strongly prefer non-descript modern look (like Wynn) over a fake aesthetic. Plus, unless I’m missing something, there’s no real main entrance.
Haven’t been to Wynn in maybe 10 years but I remember I liked it a lot, but the table games were high. I won a ton at poker, which may have contributed to my like of the property.
Quote: Mission146
You could also call the game, "Eighteen-Zero," Roulette.
Make it French and it will sell better: Dix-huit zéro roulette. Sounds more exotic.
Quote: DRichMake it French and it will sell better: Dix-huit zéro roulette. Sounds more exotic.
Le joueur est mort dans n'importe quelle langue.
Quote: Mission146
You could also call the game, "Eighteen-Zero," Roulette.
No Zero Roulette will be more popular.
Red/Black and Even/Odd are gone, the dozens now pay 1 to 1, and single numbers inside pay 25 to 1.
Zero Zero will be a trademarked variant incorporating some bizarre side bets, and possibly bringing back the Red/Black with color zones marked with lights on the tub, instead of the rotor. 45/45/10 odds, of course, and yellow pays 5 to 1.
Quote: DieterNo Zero Roulette will be more popular.
Red/Black and Even/Odd are gone, the dozens now pay 1 to 1, and single numbers inside pay 25 to 1.
Zero Zero will be a trademarked variant incorporating some bizarre side bets, and possibly bringing back the Red/Black with color zones marked with lights on the tub, instead of the rotor. 45/45/10 odds, of course, and yellow pays 5 to 1.
Even Money bets have a 10% Commission paid upfront (win or lose) and the Table Minimum is $10.
Quote: Mission146Even Money bets have a 10% Commission paid upfront (win or lose) and the Table Minimum is $10.
Have you considered a career in the lucrative world of carnival game design?
Quote: DieterHave you considered a career in the lucrative world of carnival game design?
Yeah, but I think I will first try my hand in dietary supplements.
Venetian does have really good connections for special events seating / tickets.
It is true that the crowd at Venetian has gone downhill of late, but ensconced in a huge suite, it doesn’t feel that way.
Not sure whether your disdain is for supplements or the way they're marketed, but for the former, thousands of studies show clear benefits from supplements, and as for the latter, marketing claims are highly regulated and so deception is the exception and not the rule, because those making unsubstantiated claims do get fined.Quote: Mission146Yeah, but I think I will first try my hand in dietary supplements.
We all knew about Venetian's triple-zero roulette, but this is the first I heard that they tried to spin that as a benefit to the player. That deception makes them the third addition to my Casino Hall of Shame.
So, now can we get back to discussing which casinos have the most luxurious common areas?
Quote: MichaelBluejayNot sure whether your disdain is for supplements or the way they're marketed, but for the former, thousands of studies show clear benefits from supplements, and as for the latter, marketing claims are highly regulated and so deception is the exception and not the rule, because those making unsubstantiated claims do get fined.
We all knew about Venetian's triple-zero roulette, but this is the first I heard that they tried to spin that as a benefit to the player. That deception makes them the third addition to my Casino Hall of Shame.
So, now can we get back to discussing which casinos have the most luxurious common areas?
It’s amazing how things work when you believe they will work. Placebo effect.
Equally amazing is how well dietary supplements work with a strict regimen of diet and exercise…or you could just diet and exercise.
Oh, no, not fines! Please don’t take away 0.5% of my massive revenues! Whatever shall I do?
Casinos with luxurious common areas are generally those that generally don’t offer gamblers much in the way of value, and therefore, are not worth visiting. Often have to pay to park anyway.
Next, we should discuss which credit card companies’ corporate headquarters have the nicest common areas.
Okay, I’ve made my point. I apologize. I’ll just hit my thank you button in this thread henceforward.
THANK YOU for putting The Venetian in your Hall of Shame!!!
Oh good lord, you've never heard of double-blind studies?!Quote: Mission146It’s amazing how things work when you believe they will work. Placebo effect.
It's a bold claim that no supplement has a positive effect on people who eat healthy and exercise. It would be meaningful if there were evidence to back it up.Quote: Mission146Equally amazing is how well dietary supplements work with a strict regimen of diet and exercise…or you could just diet and exercise.
Nice straw man. Most supplement makers aren't corporate titans, and the fines represent a non-trivial percentage of their income. Look it up.Quote: Mission146Oh, no, not fines! Please don’t take away 0.5% of my massive revenues! Whatever shall I do?
You mean they're not worth *playing at*. If your point is to visit a luxurious casino to marvel at the splendor, then yeah, it matters.Quote: Mission146Casinos with luxurious common areas are generally those that generally don’t offer gamblers much in the way of value, and therefore, are not worth visiting.
Yes, yes we can.Quote: MichaelBluejaySo, now can we get back to discussing which casinos have the most luxurious common areas?
So in terms of common areas:
1) VENETIAN takes the #1 spot of places I have been to.
2) BELLAGIO based on the Conservatory.
3) WYNN, based on the Flower Carousel and the Waterfall thingie.
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.Quote: Mission146Tile instead of concrete? What kind of pretentious (remainder of post omitted to avoid profanity suspension).
Yes, Ellis Island used to have plain poured concrete floors. And the walls were pretty drab too. They fixed it up a lot in the last few years, as well as adding the Front Yard and the tiki bar, etc.
Quote: DJTeddyBearI can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
Yes, Ellis Island used to have plain poured concrete floors. And the walls were pretty drab too. They fixed it up a lot in the last few years, as well as adding the Front Yard and the tiki bar, etc.
Me either. I did like the concrete, though. Feels like a casino should.
Quote: Mission146Feels like a casino should.
Gambling hall, maybe.
Sure is annoying out here in the sticks when a tribe takes their perfectly reasonable pole barn gambling hall and tries to make it too swanky, tho.
Quote: DieterNo Zero Roulette will be more popular.
Red/Black and Even/Odd are gone, the dozens now pay 1 to 1, and single numbers inside pay 25 to 1.
Zero Zero will be a trademarked variant incorporating some bizarre side bets, and possibly bringing back the Red/Black with color zones marked with lights on the tub, instead of the rotor. 45/45/10 odds, of course, and yellow pays 5 to 1.
30 to 1 and still a zero tho:
Quote: Torghatten30 to 1 and still a zero tho:
Yeah, removing the zero means they have to further revise the.payoffs.
Quote: MichaelBluejayThere seems to be consensus that Wynn, Venetian, and Bellagio have the nicest common areas. Does any other casino make the cut? TinMan suggested Aria, who agrees or disagrees? Does Cosmo's chandelier lounge get it into the same class as the Wynn, Venetian, Bellagio?
The Wynn is nice? I’ve been in there. I remember it is very red.
Quote: Mission146
THANK YOU for putting The Venetian in your Hall of Shame!!!
It feels like the Wizard may be a little biased against Venetian. I still want to hear your story some day.
oops, my bad. I thought the Wizard wrote that post.
Quote: MichaelBluejaySo now that Sands sold the Venetian to Apollo, what symbol are they using for the triple zero? It used to be the stylized "S" for Sands.
The stylized S could still be for, “Sucker,” because anyone playing this game at the Venetian is a sucker who likely thinks they have style.
