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Who is Nathan?
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September 27th, 2021 at 4:22:39 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

My feeling is that all discipline should be handled privately, not publicly.

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    I take it you're not a fan of public caning either.
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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    September 27th, 2021 at 4:24:58 PM permalink
    Quote: Marcusclark66

    Who is Nathan?

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    Exactly.
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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    September 27th, 2021 at 4:27:10 PM permalink
    Can anybody define trolling for me ? I thought it was someone posted something for not other reason than to prompt someone to reply ? That didn’t appear to be the case with Billryan. To be perfectly honest I had thought about posting The daily suspensions will continue until morale improves. But my first thought was that is might not be construed as sarcasm or a feeble attempt at humor, but trolling. Can anyone define trolling in someway other than I know it when I see it ,
    This is an honest post and not an attempt to slide the daily suspensions past any and all moderators.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 4:46:06 PM permalink
    Quote: AxelWolf

    Are you serious? How is this trolling?



    It's not just that post. He has been a chronic complainer and critic for months, perhaps years.

    As I have said before, you're allowed to disagree with management decisions, but if you do it over and over and over, for months or years, it becomes trolling.

    I predict he will do it again within days of his return and I will be ready to respond.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 5:36:23 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    It's not just that post. He has been a chronic complainer and critic for months, perhaps years.

    As I have said before, you're allowed to disagree with management decisions, but if you do it over and over and over, for months or years, it becomes trolling.

    I predict he will do it again within days of his return and I will be ready to respond.

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    That's a fair and acceptable explanation.
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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    September 27th, 2021 at 5:43:50 PM permalink
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    That's a fair and acceptable explanation.

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    Thank you.

    I prefer that grievances be taken to me or another moderator privately. I also think this is the gentlemanly thing to do.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 6:30:54 PM permalink
    Sidebar to the Wizard : at 9:14 pm tonight on the Chris cuomo show on CNN. Chris has just finished a live interview with a congressman. He then said he would be discussing certain changes that the Biden plan will cause with and I quote “ The Wizard of Odds “. After a few commercials and Chris going over the infrastructure bill, Chris then said he to discuss public support for these bills is the Wizard of Odds Harry Enters .not sure of last name but that is what it sounded like
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    September 27th, 2021 at 6:34:29 PM permalink
    Looks like his name is Harry Enten. After 5minutes of talking Chris said That is why you are The Wizards of Odds. Thank you Harry Enten.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 7:33:37 PM permalink
    Quote: FastEddie

    Sidebar to the Wizard : at 9:14 pm tonight on the Chris cuomo show on CNN. Chris has just finished a live interview with a congressman. He then said he would be discussing certain changes that the Biden plan will cause with and I quote “ The Wizard of Odds “. After a few commercials and Chris going over the infrastructure bill, Chris then said he to discuss public support for these bills is the Wizard of Odds Harry Enters .not sure of last name but that is what it sounded like

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    I've looked over several of your posts and don't believe you're a real person. Nuke.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 7:33:59 PM permalink
    What did FastEddie do to get a suspension?

    ETA: never mind, cross post with Wizard.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 7:52:49 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: FastEddie

    Sidebar to the Wizard : at 9:14 pm tonight on the Chris cuomo show on CNN. Chris has just finished a live interview with a congressman. He then said he would be discussing certain changes that the Biden plan will cause with and I quote “ The Wizard of Odds “. After a few commercials and Chris going over the infrastructure bill, Chris then said he to discuss public support for these bills is the Wizard of Odds Harry Enters .not sure of last name but that is what it sounded like

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    I've looked over several of your posts and don't believe you're a real person. Nuke.
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    I KNEW IT! i think if its an AI its one of the best ive seen on here so far
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    September 27th, 2021 at 8:41:53 PM permalink
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    I KNEW IT! i think if its an AI its one of the best ive seen on here so far

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    Me too. I still don't understand the motive of whoever is behind these bots.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 8:46:16 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: heatmap

    I KNEW IT! i think if its an AI its one of the best ive seen on here so far

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    Me too. I still don't understand the motive of whoever is behind these bots.
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    I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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    September 27th, 2021 at 8:48:06 PM permalink
    Quote: AxelWolf

    ]I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    Hmmm. Given evidence that you're right, I'll reverse the nuke.
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    September 27th, 2021 at 8:59:34 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: AxelWolf

    ]I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    Hmmm. Given evidence that you're right, I'll reverse the nuke.
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    Would an AI bot be so specific with posts? Below is one post that is highly suspect that a bot isn't being used imo. This is a response to the OP looking for surveillance video to help him find who stole his car.

    Seems too spot on and direct to be an AI bot. He mentioned the voucher being found and the fact the thief was given up by a cohort already in jail. If that's an AI bot then my knowledge of the technology is way behind.


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    September 27th, 2021 at 9:01:51 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: AxelWolf

    ]I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    Hmmm. Given evidence that you're right, I'll reverse the nuke.
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    Unfortunately, I can't give you that information as it would break privacy rules. You could simply reverse the nuke and send him a private message and see how they respond.

    I'll just say that... in my opinion, this person is actually an asset to the forum and the gaming community.
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    September 28th, 2021 at 12:58:15 AM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: AxelWolf

    ]I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    Hmmm. Given evidence that you're right, I'll reverse the nuke.
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    Wizard,
    I've read all of FastEddie's posts. At times I suspected that he was a sock of an ex-member, but his posts were generally on topic or on par with posts from other members. Yes, he was somewhat sarcastic and borderline critical of some topics.
    No way in Hades was the account an AI Bot. The sophistication of his posts was just far too great.
    I also accept that if AxelWolf testifies that he has strong evidence that FastEddie is not a bot, but that confidentiality stops him presenting it, then I'm inclined to believe him. Though I suggest that AW could present such evidence to you or me in ABSOLUTE confidence that it would go no further.
    Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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    September 28th, 2021 at 4:23:52 AM permalink
    Quote: AxelWolf

    I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    I am going to take you at your word and un-nuke him. I hope to see some more substantive and on-topic posts from him.

    The one day served I'll file under hijacking.
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    September 28th, 2021 at 6:09:56 AM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    Quote: AxelWolf

    ]I can tell you for 100% certain it's not a bot.

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    Hmmm. Given evidence that you're right, I'll reverse the nuke.
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    He's playing in the WoV Picks Game?
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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    September 28th, 2021 at 6:15:46 AM permalink
    What's going on these last few days, anyway? The way this seems to be going, people are going to start getting banned on the grounds of not being banned yet.

    Just don't ban me, because I have to run the Picks Game. I think I'll just play it safe and not post for the next fifteen weeks other than linking to my articles. Oh, and the necessary posts in the Picks Game threads, of course.
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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    September 28th, 2021 at 6:55:02 AM permalink
    Quote: Mission146

    What's going on these last few days, anyway? The way this seems to be going, people are going to start getting banned on the grounds of not being banned yet.

    Just don't ban me, because I have to run the Picks Game. I think I'll just play it safe and not post for the next fifteen weeks other than linking to my articles. Oh, and the necessary posts in the Picks Game threads, of course.

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    This site will be lesser for it, without your posts.
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    September 28th, 2021 at 6:58:27 AM permalink
    My first thought was, "There is a bot playing Mission's picks game?"?????

    That was super strange to me. AS I can see what Wiz was thinking, his posts are weird, but it's even weirder a bot would sign up and participate in the picks game. LoL
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    September 28th, 2021 at 7:09:49 AM permalink
    Quote: mwalz9

    My first thought was, "There is a bot playing Mission's picks game?"?????

    That was super strange to me. AS I can see what Wiz was thinking, his posts are weird, but it's even weirder a bot would sign up and participate in the picks game. LoL

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    Especially with how nitty I am about the way in which the Picks are formatted. It would take a highly sophisticated bot to get that right!
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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    September 28th, 2021 at 7:16:38 AM permalink
    Quote: unJon

    Quote: Mission146

    What's going on these last few days, anyway? The way this seems to be going, people are going to start getting banned on the grounds of not being banned yet.

    Just don't ban me, because I have to run the Picks Game. I think I'll just play it safe and not post for the next fifteen weeks other than linking to my articles. Oh, and the necessary posts in the Picks Game threads, of course.

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    This site will be lesser for it, without your posts.
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    I appreciate you saying so, but I have very little in the way of highly improbable stories. And, some of the ones that I do have, I wouldn't post unless I had someone to corroborate them, anyway. Either way, these would all be for low stakes and would be uninteresting, to most.
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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    September 28th, 2021 at 7:22:14 AM permalink
    I will just chime in and point out that FastEddie is a participant in the WOV NFL Pick'em Contest. He has been submitting picks and is currently ahead of both Mission and I in the rankings.

    So, if he is an AI bot, then its pretty impressive.
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    September 28th, 2021 at 7:26:00 AM permalink
    Quote: Mission146

    Quote: unJon

    Quote: Mission146

    What's going on these last few days, anyway? The way this seems to be going, people are going to start getting banned on the grounds of not being banned yet.

    Just don't ban me, because I have to run the Picks Game. I think I'll just play it safe and not post for the next fifteen weeks other than linking to my articles. Oh, and the necessary posts in the Picks Game threads, of course.

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    This site will be lesser for it, without your posts.
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    I appreciate you saying so, but I have very little in the way of highly improbable stories. And, some of the ones that I do have, I wouldn't post unless I had someone to corroborate them, anyway. Either way, these would all be for low stakes and would be uninteresting, to most.
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    Don't sell yourself short, Mission. You make some of the most thoughtful and well-reasoned posts here. You are Must See TV, so to speak!
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    September 28th, 2021 at 7:29:56 AM permalink
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    Don't sell yourself short, Mission. You make some of the most thoughtful and well-reasoned posts here. You are Must See TV, so to speak!

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    Thank you for saying so! Just so you know, I get an E-Mail anytime there is an article comment and try to respond to all of them. I really need to get back to 2-3 articles per week, here, but I have a really big project that I've been working on for one of our other sites.
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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    September 29th, 2021 at 12:05:00 PM permalink
    Quote: Mission146

    I think I'll just play it safe and not post for the next fifteen weeks other than linking to my articles. Oh, and the necessary posts in the Picks Game threads, of course.

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    I'm willing to make an exception for you that if you do get banned, either I'll make an exception and let you post only on the contest or I'll administer it myself while you're away.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 2:17:27 PM permalink
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    [

    I'm willing to make an exception for you that if you do get banned, either I'll make an exception and let you post only on the contest or I'll administer it myself while you're away.

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    I actually appreciate that quite much, thank you! I must admit that I have a bit of a quick trigger sometimes when Administration duties don't require me to keep myself under tight control.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 3:16:35 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    I'm willing to make an exception for you that if you do get banned, either I'll make an exception and let you post only on the contest or I'll administer it myself while you're away.

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    MISSION: YOU GOT A FREE PASS ! USE IT WISELY.

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    September 29th, 2021 at 3:41:20 PM permalink
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    . Possibly the Only Active Member who hasn't been Suspended, YET



    Not true :-)
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    September 29th, 2021 at 4:22:01 PM permalink
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    Not true :-)

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    I am recommending rsactuary be suspended for implying JohnnyQ is a liar. And recommending JohnnyQ be suspended for trolling rsactuary.

    I think I’ve been suspended 3 times, but maybe it’s 4.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 4:27:19 PM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO

    Quote: rsactuary

    Not true :-)

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    I am recommending rsactuary be suspended for implying JohnnyQ is a liar. And recommending JohnnyQ be suspended for trolling rsactuary.

    I think I’ve been suspended 3 times, but maybe it’s 4.
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    Wiz said he was going to suspend me once, but he forgot to turn me red. I decided I would voluntarily not post for three days. So was I ever really suspended?
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    September 29th, 2021 at 4:27:41 PM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO

    Quote: rsactuary

    Not true :-)

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    I am recommending rsactuary be suspended for implying JohnnyQ is a liar. And recommending JohnnyQ be suspended for trolling rsactuary.

    I think I’ve been suspended 3 times, but maybe it’s 4.
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    You could also face suspension for accusing JohnnyQ of being a troll..?
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    September 29th, 2021 at 6:18:28 PM permalink
    Quote: TwelveOr21

    Quote: SOOPOO

    Quote: rsactuary

    Not true :-)

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    I am recommending rsactuary be suspended for implying JohnnyQ is a liar. And recommending JohnnyQ be suspended for trolling rsactuary.

    I think I’ve been suspended 3 times, but maybe it’s 4.
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    You could also face suspension for accusing JohnnyQ of being a troll..?
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    Nah…. I just felt bad for JohnnyQ and rsactuary. Imagine the shame of never having been edgy enough to get suspended!
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    September 29th, 2021 at 7:02:40 PM permalink
    I see Johnzimbo is the only player ahead of me. What can I suspend him for? ;-)
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    September 29th, 2021 at 7:04:46 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    I see Johnzimbo is the only player ahead of me. What can I suspend him for? ;-)

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    LOL.
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    September 29th, 2021 at 7:36:30 PM permalink
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    Not true :-)

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    12 years for me. No suspensions. I did get a warning once…
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    September 29th, 2021 at 8:12:40 PM permalink
    I've never had a suspension either.

    Of course if you call me a liar that's against the rules :)
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    September 30th, 2021 at 11:37:57 AM permalink
    No suspensions here.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 11:46:26 AM permalink
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    September 30th, 2021 at 2:53:34 PM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    I see Johnzimbo is the only player ahead of me. What can I suspend him for? ;-)

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    Obviously, he is an AIBot, with that record of picks.
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    September 30th, 2021 at 3:27:22 PM permalink
    I am zagging rather than zigging with my picks this week...so a suspension might benefit me 😁
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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:12:56 AM permalink
    Mods, rather than negotiate what the meaning of an insult is and worry that I might cross a line, can you give me a sentence I can write and not get suspended, word for word please, when I believe someone is a liar, scammer, fraud or delusional bragger?

    Please, just one allowable sentence.

    If you just provide the words we can say, then I will use them, and maybe others will too. And we will have your blessing that this language is okay and pre-approved.

    There are liars, scammers, frauds and delusional braggers posting on this site today. I look forward to knowing how to respond to them.
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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:22:55 AM permalink
    Quote: teliot


    Please, just one allowable sentence.

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    My current favorite is technically two sentences, "Fantastic! That's incredible!"

    At least one moderator has suggested that habitually "following" another member and replying to every dubious claim with that will get me in some trouble under bullying/thumbtacking/duplicate post rules, but occasional use should be appropriate.

    Perhaps you can adapt the sentiment?
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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:28:00 AM permalink
    Quote: teliot

    Mods, rather than negotiate what the meaning of an insult is and worry that I might cross a line, can you give me a sentence I can write and not get suspended, word for word please, when I believe someone is a liar, scammer, fraud or delusional bragger?

    Please, just one allowable sentence.

    If you just provide the words we can say, then I will use them, and maybe others will too. And we will have your blessing that this language is okay and pre-approved.

    There are liars, scammers, frauds and delusional braggers posting on this site today. I look forward to knowing how to respond to them.

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    Just call them a liar, scammer, fraud or delusional bragger and take your three days.
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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:28:18 AM permalink
    Quote: teliot

    Mods, rather than negotiate what the meaning of an insult is and worry that I might cross a line, can you give me a sentence I can write and not get suspended, word for word please, when I believe someone is a liar, scammer, fraud or delusional bragger?

    Please, just one allowable sentence.



    You may say, "I don't believe you."

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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:42:33 AM permalink
    Quote: Wizard

    You may say, "I don't believe you."



    Dear Pondering In Vegas:

    How about using the phrase "I can't believe that happened"? That phrase can be viewed as astonishment rather than challenging someone's credibility.

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    October 2nd, 2021 at 6:43:47 AM permalink
    Quote: teliot

    Mods, rather than negotiate what the meaning of an insult is and worry that I might cross a line, can you give me a sentence I can write and not get suspended, word for word please, when I believe someone is a liar, scammer, fraud or delusional bragger?

    Please, just one allowable sentence.

    If you just provide the words we can say, then I will use them, and maybe others will too. And we will have your blessing that this language is okay and pre-approved.

    There are liars, scammers, frauds and delusional braggers posting on this site today. I look forward to knowing how to respond to them.

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    I read this post and had to check and see if this was a sock of mine. Crazy morning.
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