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October 3rd, 2021 at 10:01:59 AM permalink
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I think the rest of the world didn't interpret Alan's statement that way and neither did I.

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    October 3rd, 2021 at 10:04:13 AM permalink
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    Someone should start a new thread having to do with the general credibility of gambling stories, but it's not going to be me.

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    Me either. If there's more to say than "I played a game; money changed hands," perhaps someone will start a thread.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 10:12:32 AM permalink
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    Quote: darkoz

    I think the rest of the world didn't interpret Alan's statement that way and neither did I.

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    ... you'd interpret Alan's statement that way but the rest of the world is certain Alan didn't intend that bizarre slant.

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    Hey MDawg, Touche.
    Is there a latin legal term that means "DarkOz's use of the prefix 'I Think' was redundant, but I saw fit not to use that prefix because I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it" ?
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 10:15:16 AM permalink
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 10:26:53 AM permalink
    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: MDawg

    Quote: darkoz

    I think the rest of the world didn't interpret Alan's statement that way and neither did I.

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    Quote: MDawg

    ... you'd interpret Alan's statement that way but the rest of the world is certain Alan didn't intend that bizarre slant.

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    Hey MDawg, Touche.
    Is there a latin legal term that means "DarkOz's use of the prefix 'I Think' was redundant, but I saw fit not to use that prefix because I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it" ?
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 10:42:10 AM permalink
    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 11:17:14 AM permalink
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    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!

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    Interesting. Thank you. I was not familiar with the word 'apositive'.
    I recall that I once had a teacher who discouraged starting a sentence with the term 'I think', because he said it was redundant.
    Maybe it's a facet of your legal training that stops you writing 'I think'?


    So. My teacher would tell me not to write...
    I think I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (i)
    Better to just write.
    I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (ii)

    I think he was wrong.
    I think (i) would get me criticised as somewhat unreliable where (ii) would get me justifiably called delusional or a liar.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 11:53:48 AM permalink
    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: MDawg

    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!

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    Interesting. Thank you. I was not familiar with the word 'apositive'.
    I recall that I once had a teacher who discouraged starting a sentence with the term 'I think', because he said it was redundant.
    Maybe it's a facet of your legal training that stops you writing 'I think'?


    So. My teacher would tell me not to write...
    I think I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (i)
    Better to just write.
    I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (ii)

    I think he was wrong.
    I think (i) would get me criticised as somewhat unreliable where (ii) would get me justifiably called delusional or a liar.
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    I'm always of the opinion that usage of "I think" is a polite way of stating something is your personal opinion and you aren't trying to force that onto someone else.

    "Flying is the best way to travel"

    Well that's kind of forcing that statement on others. There are plenty of people who don't feel flying is the best way to travel..

    "I think flying is the best way to travel". Now my opinion is personalized. I think it recognizing you may not.

    "I feel flying is the best way to travel" would be another way of saying it.

    Of course, there is also the eyewitness aspect as in "I think I saw the defendant stab the victim.". That's when "I think" brings into question your certainty on an issue.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 1:00:32 PM permalink
    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: MDawg

    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!

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    Interesting. Thank you. I was not familiar with the word 'apositive'.
    I recall that I once had a teacher who discouraged starting a sentence with the term 'I think', because he said it was redundant.
    Maybe it's a facet of your legal training that stops you writing 'I think'?


    So. My teacher would tell me not to write...
    I think I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (i)
    Better to just write.
    I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (ii)

    I think he was wrong.
    I think (i) would get me criticised as somewhat unreliable where (ii) would get me justifiably called delusional or a liar.
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    I agree in your thinking that he was wrong. I was taught that one should use, "I think," when expressing opinions on matters that one is not completely sure about as a failure to do so when expressing a matter of opinion could be seen as dogmatic.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 1:31:01 PM permalink
    Quote: MDawg

    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!

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    In fifth grade we were taught never to write I think or my opinion because if you write it it's automatically your thought or your opinion.

    This is why I've never used the Internet shorthand IMHO because what I write is my opinion.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 1:32:39 PM permalink
    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: MDawg

    You'd see a lot of "I think" appositives in olde British legal opinions. The judge (or Lord) would say something, comma I think comma , and then go on with the opinion. This fell out of favor in the United States where judges write what they think without saying, I think!

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    Interesting. Thank you. I was not familiar with the word 'apositive'.
    I recall that I once had a teacher who discouraged starting a sentence with the term 'I think', because he said it was redundant.
    Maybe it's a facet of your legal training that stops you writing 'I think'?


    So. My teacher would tell me not to write...
    I think I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (i)
    Better to just write.
    I just saw Elvis riding a unicorn. (ii)

    I think he was wrong.
    I think (i) would get me criticised as somewhat unreliable where (ii) would get me justifiably called delusional or a liar.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 2:12:36 PM permalink
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    In fifth grade we were taught never to write I think or my opinion because if you write it it's automatically your thought or your opinion.

    This is why I've never used the Internet shorthand IMHO because what I write is my opinion.

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    So. It's not just my teacher then. Maybe it's a generational thing.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 2:25:13 PM permalink
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    In fifth grade we were taught never to write I think or my opinion because if you write it it's automatically your thought or your opinion.

    This is why I've never used the Internet shorthand IMHO because what I write is my opinion.

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    So. It's not just my teacher then. Maybe it's a generational thing.
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    I think it's an educational "thing" and not generational. Language and writing are supposed to be succinct and exact. As you mentioned phrases like "I think" take away the requirement of succinct and they limit the requirement of being exact.

    Of course language changes. Today instead of saying "you're welcome" to a "thank you" many say "no problem."

    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 2:44:24 PM permalink
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    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."

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    I'm going to guess we had different teachers, although mine was definitely teaching around that time.

    Stickler on "Please", "Thank you", "You're welcome", never start a sentence with "Because" when speaking, beginning of class was "Good Morning Miss ____" (NOT Mrs... that's my mother), "Excuse me", and "May I" (not can).

    It is October, so she would be pleased to hear any of her former students come around and recite "October's Bright Blue Weather."


    As for the "I think" vs not... there are enough experts around here that it is useful to have a distinction between a statement of formal authority and statements of opinion.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 2:48:35 PM permalink
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    In fifth grade we were taught never to write I think or my opinion because if you write it it's automatically your thought or your opinion.

    This is why I've never used the Internet shorthand IMHO because what I write is my opinion.

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    So. It's not just my teacher then. Maybe it's a generational thing.
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    I think it's an educational "thing" and not generational. Language and writing are supposed to be succinct and exact. As you mentioned phrases like "I think" take away the requirement of succinct and they limit the requirement of being exact.

    Of course language changes. Today instead of saying "you're welcome" to a "thank you" many say "no problem."

    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."
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    Two plus two equals four.

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    October 3rd, 2021 at 2:50:22 PM permalink
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    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."

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    I'm going to guess we had different teachers, although mine was definitely teaching around that time.

    Stickler on "Please", "Thank you", "You're welcome", never start a sentence with "Because" when speaking, beginning of class was "Good Morning Miss ____" (NOT Mrs... that's my mother), "Excuse me", and "May I" (not can).

    It is October, so she would be pleased to hear any of her former students come around and recite "October's Bright Blue Weather."


    As for the "I think" vs not... there are enough experts around here that it is useful to have a distinction between a statement of formal authority and statements of opinion.
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    I think, 'Because,' can start a sentence as long as the sentence states a conditional proposition that was resolved affirmatively.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 3:19:54 PM permalink
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    Quote: Dieter

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    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."

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    I'm going to guess we had different teachers, although mine was definitely teaching around that time.

    Stickler on "Please", "Thank you", "You're welcome", never start a sentence with "Because" when speaking, beginning of class was "Good Morning Miss ____" (NOT Mrs... that's my mother), "Excuse me", and "May I" (not can).

    It is October, so she would be pleased to hear any of her former students come around and recite "October's Bright Blue Weather."


    As for the "I think" vs not... there are enough experts around here that it is useful to have a distinction between a statement of formal authority and statements of opinion.
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    I think, 'Because,' can start a sentence as long as the sentence states a conditional proposition that was resolved affirmatively.
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    It was assumed that we mere public school fifth grade students would not be thinking that far into sentence construction when speaking in class.

    A few of us did get the extra credit for properly using it in our written work.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 3:26:12 PM permalink
    Quote: Dieter

    Quote: Mission146

    Quote: Dieter

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    My 5th grade teacher is probably turning over in her grave because of "no problem."

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    I'm going to guess we had different teachers, although mine was definitely teaching around that time.

    Stickler on "Please", "Thank you", "You're welcome", never start a sentence with "Because" when speaking, beginning of class was "Good Morning Miss ____" (NOT Mrs... that's my mother), "Excuse me", and "May I" (not can).

    It is October, so she would be pleased to hear any of her former students come around and recite "October's Bright Blue Weather."


    As for the "I think" vs not... there are enough experts around here that it is useful to have a distinction between a statement of formal authority and statements of opinion.
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    I think, 'Because,' can start a sentence as long as the sentence states a conditional proposition that was resolved affirmatively.
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    It was assumed that we mere public school fifth grade students would not be thinking that far into sentence construction when speaking in class.

    A few of us did get the extra credit for properly using it in our written work.
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    If you believe writing "I think" is okay, you might also say "no problem" when someone says "thank you."

    Language changes.

    Write what you choose. It's not a problem for me because I'm not your editor or your teacher and you harm no one.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 4:15:14 PM permalink
    I stopped listening to my English teachers once it was clear they didn't understand their own rules.

    My favorite was "I before E except after C"

    Man, that was drilled into me by every English teacher I had.

    Try correctly spelling "species" without putting the I before the E after that C.

    Or try spelling "seizure" by putting the I before the e after that letter that isn't C.

    Yes, English teachers really preach a lot of BS.

    ("Weird", "forfeit" "glacier", I mean if your English teachers were unaware of these words they really should not have been English teachers).
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 4:39:05 PM permalink
    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 4:46:59 PM permalink
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    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.

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    Not this thread.

    I think you are referring to the suspension thread II.

    This one is III.

    We don't talk about suspensions in this one. Too many people getting suspended for talking about suspensions.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 6:09:54 PM permalink
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 6:16:14 PM permalink
    Quote: EvenBob

    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.

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    It's really supposed to be about suspensions, and incidental discussions about forum rules.

    Anything else is supposed to go in the miscellaneous thread.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 6:32:41 PM permalink
    Quote: EvenBob

    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.

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    This must be super irritating for you, you come here for some good old-fashioned Schadenfreude to brighten up the rest of your day and you end up getting nothing but outdated etiquette lessons from decades ago.
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 6:32:56 PM permalink
    Quote: Dieter

    Quote: EvenBob

    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.

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    It's really supposed to be about suspensions, and incidental discussions about forum rules.

    Anything else is supposed to go in the miscellaneous thread.
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    We should just rename this the miscellaneous thread about suspensions
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 6:36:13 PM permalink
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    But don't you take stock advice from someone claiming 60 in a row among many other outrageous claims?
    ♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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    October 3rd, 2021 at 7:00:08 PM permalink
    Quote: darkoz

    Quote: Dieter

    Quote: EvenBob

    Remember way back in the day when this suspension thread was about suspensions? When did it turn into the miscellaneous thread were you can discuss anything under the sun.

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    It's really supposed to be about suspensions, and incidental discussions about forum rules.

    Anything else is supposed to go in the miscellaneous thread.
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    We should just rename this the miscellaneous thread about suspensions
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    Or, you know, chit chat elsewhere, and discuss only relevant matters here.
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    October 4th, 2021 at 5:31:30 AM permalink
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

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    October 4th, 2021 at 6:00:34 AM permalink
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

    https://www.nj.com/news/2009/05/craps_player_sets_record_roll.html
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    I wish I was there! I’ll let someone better at math compare 18 yo’s in a row with the 154 roll streak. My hunch is the 154 roll streak is at least billions of times more likely than an 18 yo streak.

    Virtually any reported set of results can be so unlikely….

    I turned over 7 cards…. AS, 4H, QC, QH, 9D, 3S, 6H
    The odds of that happening are 674 billion to one against. Do you think my claim of turning over that sequence of cards is outrageous? Any claim must be taken in context.
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

    http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901663,00.html

    https://www.nj.com/news/2009/05/craps_player_sets_record_roll.html
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    That's just a one in 1.56 Trillion probability, if all was fair. We can temper that by noting that such an event brought a lot of 'free' publicity to the Borgata, so I tend not to rule out corporate publicity stunt (exaggeration or fix)
    That craps event is 2.5 BILLION times more likely than the 18 Yos claimed event and is actually quite reasonable.
    Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

    http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901663,00.html

    https://www.nj.com/news/2009/05/craps_player_sets_record_roll.html
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    That's just a one in 1.56 Trillion probability, if all was fair. We can temper that by noting that such an event brought a lot of 'free' publicity to the Borgata, so I tend not to rule out corporate publicity stunt (exaggeration or fix)
    That craps event is 2.5 BILLION times more likely than the 18 Yos claimed event and is actually quite reasonable.
    Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: Marcusclark66

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    Quote: OnceDear

    Quote: AlanMendelson


    Of all the little, insignificant things to judge someone by... this is it. It takes a little person to set the bar this low for picking friends.

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    Somewhat insulting, Alan. Looks like a pretty direct personal attack on SooPoo.
    No penalty this time. Soopoo had come close to making an implied insult himself.
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    Of course don’t suspend Alan for his comment. It’s just his opinion.
    Who did I ‘implied insult’? No one to my knowledge on WoV has ever mentioned seeing 19 yo’s in a row. I SPECIFICALLY picked a scenario EIGHTEEN times as unlikely as the one Alan mentioned.

    As far as ‘the bar’ I set for choosing friends, I guess I can honestly say I have never had a friend claim anything as patently ridiculous as you have claimed. So if and when a friend ever says something that ludicrous, I’ll evaluate our friendship at that time.
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

    http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901663,00.html

    https://www.nj.com/news/2009/05/craps_player_sets_record_roll.html
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    That's just a one in 1.56 Trillion probability, if all was fair. We can temper that by noting that such an event brought a lot of 'free' publicity to the Borgata, so I tend not to rule out corporate publicity stunt (exaggeration or fix)
    That craps event is 2.5 BILLION times more likely than the 18 Yos claimed event and is actually quite reasonable.
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    My point being is if you’re around a casino long enough, anything can happen at least once. I’ve seen baccarat streaks where there was an excess of 25 plus for one side and there were 10 naturals in a back to back out of those 25 plus. I’ve seen blackjack streaks where the player had at least six black jacks in a row back to back. On and on.

    Other things happen as well. Such as a female stripping down to her underwear and bra attempting to continue playing at a table game. There’s all sorts of stuff that happens at a casino where if you told somebody they would accuse you of making it up, If they didn’t see it
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    October 4th, 2021 at 6:21:32 AM permalink
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    My point being is if you’re around a casino long enough, anything can happen at least once. I’ve seen baccarat streaks where there was an excess of 25 plus for one side and there were 10 naturals in a back to back out of those 25 plus. I’ve seen blackjack streaks where the player had at least six black jacks in a row back to back. On and on.

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    Let me use the permitted terminology....
    .... I cannot and do not believe the assertion that you made in that paragraph.
    Incidentally 6 blackjacks in a row, roughly a 1 in 89 million event. Not unbelievable in itself, but you said 'streaks' plural.
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    October 4th, 2021 at 6:29:23 AM permalink
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    My point being is if you’re around a casino long enough, anything can happen at least once. I’ve seen baccarat streaks where there was an excess of 25 plus for one side and there were 10 naturals in a back to back out of those 25 plus. I’ve seen blackjack streaks where the player had at least six black jacks in a row back to back. On and on.

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    Let me use the permitted terminology....
    .... I cannot and do not believe the assertion that you made in that paragraph.
    Incidentally 6 blackjacks in a row, roughly a 1 in 89 million event. Not unbelievable in itself, but you said 'streaks' plural.
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    One time on the 6 iback to back blackjacks. Streaks in general of various types.
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    October 4th, 2021 at 7:39:39 AM permalink
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    What if someone said 154 rolls and hanging on to the dice for 4 hours and 18 minutes???

    http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1901663,00.html

    https://www.nj.com/news/2009/05/craps_player_sets_record_roll.html

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    So we have corroborated claims of a higher probability event?
    May the cards fall in your favor.
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    I love this place!
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
    May the cards fall in your favor.
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
    The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
    May the cards fall in your favor.
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Of course not!

    I would say a safe majority of the overall population can make the same claim.
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Are you calling Dieter a liar? $:o)
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    I love this place!

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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Oh, to be sure, I used to lose, before I discovered the secret to not losing.
    May the cards fall in your favor.
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    I get free bed stuff from Mardi Gras this Thursday!

    It's a memory foam pillow this week.

    I hope it helps me remember exactly how many days in a row I have profited on FanDuel. Its 180 some. If I'm right???
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Are you calling Dieter a liar? $:o)
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    No I’m not, merely asking a question.
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Never? Not one hand?
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    Are you calling Dieter a liar? $:o)
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    No I’m not, merely asking a question.
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    The details are all clearly laid out in my ebook, "Tired of losing at blackjack? Play slots instead!"

    $19.95 if you want the secret sauce recipe.
    May the cards fall in your favor.
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    October 4th, 2021 at 10:13:28 AM permalink
    Perhaps he is saying that he has never played blackjack in a casino. And hence never lost.

    Ah okay, he has edited to saying "in years" or perhaps I didn't catch that qualifier.

    I think there are more than a few ardent posters here who do not play in casinos at all, at least not for years.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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    Fantastic! That's incredible!
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    I don’t believe you.
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    60 some!
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    Disbelieve me if you wish, but I haven't lost a hand of blackjack in a casino in years.
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    Secret Sauce? What is that?

    Never? Not one hand?
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    Are you calling Dieter a liar? $:o)
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    No I’m not, merely asking a question.
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    The details are all clearly laid out in my ebook, "Tired of losing at blackjack? Play slots instead!"

    $19.95 if you want the secret sauce recipe.
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    October 4th, 2021 at 10:23:05 AM permalink
    The record roll of 4 hours and 18 minutes was BROKEN at Caesars Palace. But Caesars did not publicize it.

    Around the same time a player won $1-million+ in one craps session at Caesars. Caesars also chose not to publicize it.

    When I asked Caesars execs why they weren't publicized I was told big wins happen all the time.

    In the case of the record long roll, there were two players at the $10 table making minimal bets. They rarely made more than a couple of place bets and didnt press. The floor man said it was early on a Saturday afternoon when the casino was not busy and these two guys had the table to themselves. He estimated the roll was in excess of four and a half hours.

    I wouldn't be surprised if other "so called records" are broken but the casinos dont publicize.
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