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April 10th, 2021 at 10:41:11 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Wouldn't the correct answer be "I never beat my wife" (assuming you don't and are being truthful)



It you answer "No" then you admit you are still beating her; "Yes" is an admission that you used to beat her, but stopped.

Either answer sucks you into admitting that you have beaten your wife, which for some of us, anyway, simply is not the case.

CB is running a variation on that, as if I chose either of his choices it woudl be an admission that I am a phony.
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April 10th, 2021 at 10:48:13 PM permalink
I do not believe that I am a phony; CB has overlooked the concept of "alter ego," i.e. the personality or schtick I choose to employ while posting on gambling forums.

Sometimes my alter ego channels and reflects beliefs which are otherwise kept at bay, but hey, that's what a playground is for.
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April 10th, 2021 at 10:58:12 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

I do not believe that I am a phony; CB has overlooked the concept of "alter ego," i.e. the personality or schtick I choose to employ while posting on gambling forums.

Sometimes my alter ego channels and reflects beliefs which are otherwise kept at bay, but hey, that's what a playground is for.



Wizard has said truthfulness isn't an excuse for insults.

For example calling someone who weighs 300 pounds a fat person is still insulting.

Calling someone a phony is an insult imo and especially since you feel you aren't. Just an alter ego
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April 10th, 2021 at 11:32:20 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Calling someone a phony is an insult imo and especially since you feel you aren't. Just an alter ego



What's your point?

That someone who adopts an alter ego isn't a phony,
if they feel they aren't a phony?

Like a gender identity thing?
It's not what you are, it's what you think you are?

What a world.
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April 11th, 2021 at 12:11:50 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Wizard has said truthfulness isn't an excuse for insults.



By far I have the most posts on this form, yet I am one of the least suspended members. Why do you suppose that's true. Because I think about how I'm saying something before I say it. You can say almost anything you want, including insults, by being clever about it. It used to drive Babs crazy because she's so smart she could see what I was doing yet she could do nothing about it. lol
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April 11th, 2021 at 12:20:20 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

By far I have the most posts on this form, yet I am one of the least suspended members. Why do you suppose that's true. Because I think about how I'm saying something before I say it. You can say almost anything you want, including insults, by being clever about it. It used to drive Babs crazy because she's so smart she could see what I was doing yet she could do nothing about it. lol



Here's a link...buy yourself a trophy.

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April 11th, 2021 at 2:42:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

By far I have the most posts on this form, yet I am one of the least suspended members. Why do you suppose that's true. Because I think about how I'm saying something before I say it. You can say almost anything you want, including insults, by being clever about it. It used to drive Babs crazy because she's so smart she could see what I was doing yet she could do nothing about it. lol



You actually have fooled no one and that's why most posters don't like you.

If this was my forum you would have been permanently banned back in 2012

But that's a statement about the forum rules and leadership.

To me your statement above is the most direct admission that you purposely do what is defined as trolling.

I'm not saying you are a troll. I'm saying that's what a definition of a troll is.
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April 11th, 2021 at 8:31:15 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You actually have fooled no one and that's why most posters don't like you.

If this was my forum you would have been permanently banned back in 2012

But that's a statement about the forum rules and leadership.

To me your statement above is the most direct admission that you purposely do what is defined as trolling.

I'm not saying you are a troll. I'm saying that's what a definition of a troll is.



Who cares?
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April 11th, 2021 at 8:45:00 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You actually have fooled no one
.



Thank God.. For a minute there I was worried.
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April 11th, 2021 at 8:46:34 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Here's a link...buy yourself a trophy.



Talk about irony, his name is in red yet again. LOL
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:15:09 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Thank God.

LOL@ That.
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:18:12 AM permalink
old:
Quote: EvenBob

Thank God..



new: "Thanks, mod,,"

FYP
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:35:00 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You actually have fooled no one and that's why most posters don't like you.

If this was my forum you would have been permanently banned back in 2012

But that's a statement about the forum rules and leadership.

To me your statement above is the most direct admission that you purposely do what is defined as trolling.

I'm not saying you are a troll. I'm saying that's what a definition of a troll is.



I'd take 100 Bob's over members that:

Think they control the dice
Think they have a winning betting system
Think shufflers have a "Beast Mode"
Think furry video games are table games
Think cards are clumped or sorted to make players lose

I've never met EB in person, but he I've never had an issue with him or his posts.


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April 11th, 2021 at 9:42:37 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

I do not believe that I am a phony; CB has overlooked the concept of "alter ego," i.e. the personality or schtick I choose to employ while posting on gambling forums.

Sometimes my alter ego channels and reflects beliefs which are otherwise kept at bay, but hey, that's what a playground is for.



So your observations, criticisms, praises and comments are meaningless fiction and for show?

Are you expecting an Internet Oscar for best performance?
Last edited by: AlanMendelson on Apr 11, 2021
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:44:10 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

I'd take 100 Bob's over members that:

Think they control the dice
Think they have a winning betting system
Think shufflers have a "Beast Mode"
Think furry video games are table games
Think cards are clumped or sorted to make players lose

I've never met EB in person, but he I've never had an issue with him or his posts.


ZCore13



So you prefer people with winning systems in roulette over those with winning systems on craps.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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April 11th, 2021 at 9:57:06 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

So you prefer people with winning systems in roulette over those with winning systems on craps.



Winning systems (card counting, hole carding, wheel clocking, etc) are provable and more than possible possible. Controlling dice legally thrown against a diamond pattern back wall is not.


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April 11th, 2021 at 10:11:56 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Winning systems (card counting, hole carding, wheel clocking, etc) are provable and more than possible possible. Controlling dice legally thrown against a diamond pattern back wall is not.


ZCore13




To change the subject, have you seen Yonkers Joe? It's about a small group of low-rent scammers who figure out a way to introduce their own die to the table. I saw it ten years ago and thought it was great. It's finally on Amazon Prime and rewatching it was disappointing. A fascinating look into the lives and methods of low rent sleazes but it didn't hook me like the first time I saw it.
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April 11th, 2021 at 10:16:46 AM permalink
Just a quick catch-up
MarcusClark66 7 days for Insult to AxelWolf
Coachbelly 3 days for just generally trolling. (this was originally a 7 day suspension by another moderator, which i've reduced to 3days as a gesture of leniency)
MrV 3 days for Personal Insult, originally 7 days, but mitigated because he did try to unpost it... just not in time.

What a busy week! Thanks guys.
Stay safe.
OD
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April 11th, 2021 at 12:52:40 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Just a quick catch-up
MarcusClark66 7 days for Insult to AxelWolf
Coachbelly 3 days for just generally trolling. (this was originally a 7 day suspension by another moderator, which i've reduced to 3days as a gesture of leniency)
MrV 3 days for Personal Insult, originally 7 days, but mitigated because he did try to unpost it... just not in time.

What a busy week! Thanks guys.
Stay safe.
OD

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April 11th, 2021 at 1:08:32 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Just a quick catch-up
MarcusClark66 7 days for Insult to AxelWolf
Coachbelly 3 days for just generally trolling. (this was originally a 7 day suspension by another moderator, which i've reduced to 3days as a gesture of leniency)
MrV 3 days for Personal Insult, originally 7 days, but mitigated because he did try to unpost it... just not in time.

What a busy week! Thanks guys.
Stay safe.
OD



When the mods " accidentally" forget to release people after they've done their time, I think they should get credit for their next sentence.
It will make the spinning wheel of justice run quicker.
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April 11th, 2021 at 1:38:38 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

To change the subject, have you seen Yonkers Joe? It's about a small group of low-rent scammers who figure out a way to introduce their own die to the table. I saw it ten years ago and thought it was great. It's finally on Amazon Prime and rewatching it was disappointing. A fascinating look into the lives and methods of low rent sleazes but it didn't hook me like the first time I saw it.



Never seen it. Rounders and Vegas Vacation are the only gambling movies that I would watch again if I came across them flipping the channels. Most of the other gambling movies bore me. But then so do casinos now that I've been working in them so long.


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April 11th, 2021 at 2:05:02 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Never seen it. Rounders and Vegas Vacation are the only gambling movies that I would watch again if I came across them flipping the channels. Most of the other gambling movies bore me. But then so do casinos now that I've been working in them so long.


ZCore13



I am with you, most casino & gambling movies barely move the bar for me. Like you, I have spent the last 20 years dealing with casinos and gambling almost every day of my life.

I can't think of a gambling movie that I would watch again in its entirety. I will watch 15 minutes or so of Vegas Vacation if I see it on.
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April 11th, 2021 at 2:39:35 PM permalink
In the movie, the grifters come up with a way to switch dice seemingly in mid-air. A confederate on the other side of the table would drop a die while the shooter palmed one and tossed only one. They'd repeat it twice and then they would have their own die Six to eight points and then remove the loaded dice the same way.
What I liked was you get to see some of the methods casino security goes thru, and it is filmed in the old Vegas Club and the Plaza, and you see the early days of The Fremont Experience.
It's also got a huge human interest side story which detracts from the gambling scenes.
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April 12th, 2021 at 12:42:05 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Just a quick catch-up
MrV 3 days for Personal Insult, originally 7 days, but mitigated because he did try to unpost it... just not in time.

OD

so if mr v said his username (mdawg) instead of doofdawg, he would have been ok?
also, how do you unpost something?

edit:
thought unposting meant deleting your post
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Apr 12, 2021
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April 12th, 2021 at 12:44:11 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

so if mr v said his username (mdawg) instead of doofdawg, he would have been ok?
also, how do you unpost something?



Re unposting: just click edit before it locks down & change your post to be anything other than what you just wrote.
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April 12th, 2021 at 1:07:03 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Re unposting: just click edit before it locks down & change your post to be anything other than what you just wrote.

ahh.. thought unposting meant deleting his post.

so you can edit your post while you are banned?
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April 12th, 2021 at 2:19:16 PM permalink
Not going to post much here anymore.
No big deal. I've taken long breaks from this place
Forum has become infested with liars and trolls
I'd rather post about my travels on FB for friends
I still post some photos of my travels over at DT.
DT used to be pretty aggressive with politics allowed.
But
It dont hold a candle to this place anymore.
Kind of weird. Politics allowed at DT but no suspensions
No politics allowed here yet one thread is suspension city. The whole thread is a troll on the forum.
In some ways, I'm surprised this forum has not brought back politics
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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April 12th, 2021 at 2:37:44 PM permalink
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April 12th, 2021 at 4:05:38 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Not going to post much here anymore.
No big deal. I've taken long breaks from this place
Forum has become infested with liars and trolls
I'd rather post about my travels on FB for friends
I still post some photos of my travels over at DT.
DT used to be pretty aggressive with politics allowed.
But
It dont hold a candle to this place anymore.
Kind of weird. Politics allowed at DT but no suspensions
No politics allowed here yet one thread is suspension city. The whole thread is a troll on the forum.
In some ways, I'm surprised this forum has not brought back politics



Who cares if half the people here may be a-holes. Just ignore them. F.I.D.O.
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April 12th, 2021 at 4:15:21 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Who cares if half the people here may be a-holes. Just ignore them. F.I.D.O.


Yep. What he said. Ignore and participate. Be a warrior...
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April 15th, 2021 at 3:10:47 PM permalink
Why is Wellbush in red?
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April 15th, 2021 at 3:18:02 PM permalink
Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?



He said he blocked a bunch of losers.

So maybe insulting blocked forum members
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April 16th, 2021 at 10:24:34 AM permalink
I advocate for the reinstatement of Wellbush. If sabre, who has multiple prior suspensions is able to get off with a warning, why not also Wellbush, who has no priors.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:17:41 AM permalink
Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?

Personal insult to a subset of the forum collectively. That got him suspended.I might restore him when I get convinced he's not a sock.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:18:34 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I advocate for the reinstatement of Wellbush. If sabre, who has multiple prior suspensions is able to get off with a warning, why not also Wellbush, who has no priors.

Sabre is a long-time member of the forum who has contributed many good things. Wellbrush probably uses a VPN, enough said.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:25:34 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Sabre is a long-time member of the forum who has contributed many good things. Wellbrush probably uses a VPN, enough said.

Wellbush's vpn firmly places him in Oz..... But then it would, wouldn't it.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:28:55 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I advocate for the reinstatement of Wellbush. If sabre, who has multiple prior suspensions is able to get off with a warning, why not also Wellbush, who has no priors.


Because not a single post of Wellbush's has added anything of value to the forum. Whether or not he is a sock puppet is not 100% clear, but his posts make it appear he is, as has been mentioned by Green Moderator OnceDear.

I have an idea!!!!!! MDawg, you are about to come up with a $2k payout courtesy of darkOz. Wellbush has mentioned he needs EXACTLY $2k to put his magic can't lose system to work, but doesn't have that much money. Can you see where this is going!!!!!!!
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:43:19 AM permalink
MDawg is the real deal.

Implying that anyone who realizes that must be a sock is a tired old story worn smooth through years of MISuse.
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April 16th, 2021 at 11:57:55 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

MDawg is the real deal.

Implying that anyone who realizes that must be a sock is a tired old story worn smooth through years of MISuse.

If Mdawg says Mdawg is the real deal, then it must be true.
Shall we have 'MDawg's testimonials' thread: 'MDawg's Discussion of suspensions in MDawgs thread' thread.....
No. Let's not.
We have enough tired old stories for today.
Wellbush stays suspended until he isn't.
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April 16th, 2021 at 1:00:24 PM permalink
Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?

A better question would be... What took so long?
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April 16th, 2021 at 2:39:32 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?

A better question would be... What took so long?



The socks are easy to spot here, unless of course you are a mod. It takes days and weeks and lots of head-scratching.
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April 16th, 2021 at 3:41:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?

A better question would be... What took so long?



The socks are easy to spot here, unless of course you are a mod. It takes days and weeks and lots of head-scratching.

Easy to spot. Hard to prove.
Who in this thread advocates a policy of nuking on gut instinct?
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April 16th, 2021 at 4:22:07 PM permalink
I advocate going after the puppet masters.
If I started a thread and sock puppets kept popping up proclaiming my greatness...........
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April 16th, 2021 at 4:22:09 PM permalink
I advocate going after the puppet masters.
If I started a thread and sock puppets kept popping up proclaiming my greatness...........
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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April 16th, 2021 at 4:24:01 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear


Who in this thread advocates a policy of nuking on gut instinct?



Without socks, post count would drop 25% and this would be a far less interesting place. Why nuke them at all if they are not causing trouble.
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April 16th, 2021 at 4:33:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Without socks, post count would drop 25% and this would be a far less interesting place. Why nuke them at all if they are not causing trouble.

Define 'causing trouble'
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April 16th, 2021 at 6:01:37 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: FTB

Why is Wellbush in red?

A better question would be... What took so long?



The socks are easy to spot here, unless of course you are a mod. It takes days and weeks and lots of head-scratching.

Easy to spot. Hard to prove.
Who in this thread advocates a policy of nuking on gut instinct?

. That’s easy. I would. Once you identify someone as a possible ‘sock’, if you actually take the value of their posts regardless of if they are socks or not, what would be lost by nuking them? This isn’t a criminal trial where the result of an error is a wrong imprisonment.

So I’ll ask you OnceDear, name a poster that you think is a sock that has posts that adds value to the forum? I won’t hold my breath....
Hullabaloo
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April 16th, 2021 at 6:04:33 PM permalink
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If Mdawg says Mdawg is the real deal, then it must be true.
Shall we have 'MDawg's testimonials' thread: 'MDawg's Discussion of suspensions in MDawgs thread' thread.....



Might as well.

We're pretty close to "TheWizardOfOdds starring Mdawg" anyway.
AxelWolf
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April 16th, 2021 at 8:56:14 PM permalink
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Why is Wellbush in red?

A better question would be... What took so long?




Who in this thread advocates a policy of nuking on gut instinct?

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ChumpChange
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April 16th, 2021 at 9:16:02 PM permalink
Quote: Hullabaloo

Might as well.

We're pretty close to "TheWizardOfOdds starring Mdawg" anyway.



He's got a Las Vegas residency at the Baccarat tables!
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