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February 4th, 2021 at 6:13:28 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

. Yes. The two suspended people I am referring to are MDawg and CoachBelly.



I suspect the correct term would be the two accounts suspended.
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February 4th, 2021 at 6:18:22 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

. Yes. The two suspended people I am referring to are MDawg and CoachBelly.



Two people? Perhaps. But its convenient.
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February 4th, 2021 at 6:20:15 PM permalink
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. Yes. The two suspended people I am referring to are MDawg and CoachBelly.



I suspect the correct term would be the two accounts suspended.
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:22:32 PM permalink
MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:32:46 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.

. I now to you my merciful Wizard!
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:40:28 PM permalink
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MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.

Not to be political but it’s like a presidential pardon😆
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:45:33 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.



Lets not tell them..
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February 6th, 2021 at 3:49:48 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.



Most men would not be pleased with their manhood if they have an early release.

Is it possible the real animosity comes from one being a wolf and the other a dawg?

I heard they are very territorial enemies
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February 6th, 2021 at 4:21:07 PM permalink
Early release = happy ending?
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February 6th, 2021 at 5:36:45 PM permalink
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Early release = happy ending?



Let's just say their release was premature
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February 6th, 2021 at 6:32:27 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

MDawg and Axelwolf have both been granted an early release.



Now can you get Pete Rose reinstated?
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February 7th, 2021 at 9:08:19 AM permalink
I suppose you would call it a commutation. I had a few days left on my week, AW had almost all of his two weeks left.
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:01:31 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I suppose you would call it a commutation. I had a few days left on my week, AW had almost all of his two weeks left.

Well that sucks for you...

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February 7th, 2021 at 10:04:14 AM permalink
There you go, breaking another rule - bringing in drama from another forum via a direct quote.



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You are only back because I allowed it.


How is that?
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:15:45 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

There you go, breaking another rule - bringing in drama from another forum via a direct quote.




How is that?

Wouldn't you like to know.
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:22:23 AM permalink
If it's true, explain.

If it's not, then you are simply trolling, which would be breaking a second forum rule within an hour of your return.
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:35:55 AM permalink
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:40:23 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

If it's true, explain.

If it's not, then you are simply trolling, which would be breaking a second forum rule within an hour of your return.

I don't owe you any explanations. It's giving me great joy knowing that you want to know so badly and yet you'll never find out.
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:40:46 AM permalink
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WMOAT
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February 7th, 2021 at 10:50:23 AM permalink
Well THAT didn't last long. LOL
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February 7th, 2021 at 11:01:39 AM permalink
I'm self suspending until just after someone else unsuspends Axelwolf and MDawg, ( or me) for my image featuring the term butt-head.

So, sadly, I won't be able to un-suspend them.
$:o)

Well, technically, I could....
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February 7th, 2021 at 11:20:39 AM permalink
Well I am sort of lost.

...but nothing new. I frequently don't understand the rules and what is going on here. :/
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February 7th, 2021 at 11:56:01 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Well I am sort of lost.

...but nothing new. I frequently don't understand the rules and what is going on here. :/



Well, MDawg did accuse Axel of trolling

Axel seemed to be baiting MDawg with some info and not sure if it comes from another forum like MDawg says.

I think there is some rule against openly antagonizing. For example I got suspended for repeatedly throwing it in MDawg face about how excited he was over ketchup bottle comps clearly designed to annoy him.
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February 7th, 2021 at 12:06:02 PM permalink
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For example I got suspended for repeatedly throwing it in MDawg face about how excited he was over ketchup bottle comps clearly designed to annoy him.



See I think the ketchup bottles are fair game. It is a piece of the MDawg "tale" that makes absolutely zero sense. You have a guy claiming to be pretty well off, a lawyer by trade, a high end player (whether playing with an advantage or not...that is very debatable) but a high end player, claiming to get high end comps, suite for weeks at a time. And then he makes a point to tell you about the ketchup bottles as if that is some great benefit. ??? Sometimes it is little things like this that you say "wait a minute....".
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February 7th, 2021 at 12:21:00 PM permalink
Looks like a double knock-out in the first round. And the referee gave himself a concussion as well.
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February 8th, 2021 at 5:53:07 AM permalink
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Looks like a double knock-out in the first round. And the referee gave himself a concussion as well.



:-)

Yep, good way of putting it. I just released all three. Try to behave yourselves.
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February 8th, 2021 at 8:53:49 AM permalink
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:-)
Try to behave yourselves.



Ha Ha, you're funny. Wiz just made
a joke..
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February 11th, 2021 at 5:18:30 PM permalink
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February 11th, 2021 at 5:30:32 PM permalink
Why was terepined suspended?
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February 11th, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM permalink
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Why was terepined suspended?



MDawg was suspended. So CoachBelly showed up as usual. Ed called that account mdawg's "mommy" and that was insulting.
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February 11th, 2021 at 8:54:42 PM permalink
Speaking of which, CoachBelly should have been released 2/10. And ChumpChange 2/9. You owe them a day or two.
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February 12th, 2021 at 1:46:01 AM permalink
Thanks for reminding the mods. They probably owe me 10 days by now, but nobody said they were good for it. What was political was top TV news for the entire time I was gone. Maybe the Draft Kings could ban Fox News while they're at it.
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February 28th, 2021 at 7:32:43 PM permalink
Hasn’t US been suspended weeks past his sentence?
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February 28th, 2021 at 7:36:13 PM permalink
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Hasn’t US been suspended weeks past his sentence?



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February 28th, 2021 at 9:28:16 PM permalink
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Hasn’t US been suspended weeks past his sentence?

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March 1st, 2021 at 1:12:56 AM permalink
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Hasn’t US been suspended weeks past his sentence?

Not weeks, but indeed 2-3 days overdue. I've released him now. Thanks for flagging this.
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March 1st, 2021 at 5:18:19 AM permalink
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The nice, educated, mostly quiet, reassembly logical guys are always the ones who love Drama.


Mits more interesting than the most recent play you found that is worth $2.86 an hour, but only between 2 and 3am, and only on Thursdays, and only at the casino in Primm, and only after you sign up on line, and only if you wear that rainbow shirt, and only....

I’m asking you get suspended for calling me quiet...
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March 11th, 2021 at 6:25:23 AM permalink
I read that, “Creating and using duplicate accounts is one of the biggest WoV sins.”

If fantom was a sock of racquet (as the Suspension List thread states) and was banned, why has racquet not suffered the same fate as USpapergames?

No nuke for racquet thus far.
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March 11th, 2021 at 6:42:06 AM permalink
Quote: FTB

I read that, “Creating and using duplicate accounts is one of the biggest WoV sins.”

If fantom was a sock of racquet (as the Suspension List thread states) and was banned, why has racquet not suffered the same fate as USpapergames?

No nuke for racquet thus far.

Thanks,
Looks like an oversight. Fixed.
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March 11th, 2021 at 9:08:13 AM permalink
Why would a long time member...who was still active and not nuked, create socks...and not once, or twice, but repeatedly? I seem to recall that some other alleged socks of racquet were nuked in the past, and racquet remained active and alive.
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March 11th, 2021 at 9:58:12 AM permalink
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Why would a long time member...who was still active and not nuked, create socks...and not once, or twice, but repeatedly? I seem to recall that some other alleged socks of racquet were nuked in the past, and racquet remained active and alive.

There is a back-story, but I'm not inclined to discuss it, since it relates to private messages.
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March 11th, 2021 at 10:07:17 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

There is a back-story, but I'm not inclined to discuss it, since it relates to private messages.




Sounds juicy. Tell us more.
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March 21st, 2021 at 10:10:36 AM permalink
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Sounds juicy. Tell us more.

Purely in the interest of clarity.... I understand some valued members here are concerned that mistakes have been made. (Well, I think I missed the C out of racquet somewhere, but that's trivial)

Direct messages relating to Racquet were exchanged back in December, while his account was active. Racquet was a second ID created by an established member in generally good standing. The reason for the two IDs was to be discussed. That dupe Id was noticed in December.

He'd previously contributed to Blackjack discussions with no inappropriate behaviour.... Except it was noted that he'd come back with this new ID which is against one of the forums strictest the rules.

He was temporarily suspended while it was was being decided what to do about the undenied fact that he had a previous user ID. Amnesty was being considered and he set up an account over on DT. Unfortunately, rather than make his own case for amnesty to Wizard (over on DT) , he decided to create two further ID's, Ghost and Fantom. He used the ID Fantom to repeatedly whinge about moderating policy here. That whinging sealed the fate for all of his ID's on WOV.

These users were NOT socks of Nathan, but they were multiple Ids of Racquet, without doubt or denial.

Racquet is still in good standing on DT if he still wants to make his case. He's made his case harder though.

If a member has a reasonable case for creating a 'replacement' user, Id, then it's better to make the case to Mike, than to fire up multiple further accounts to whinge about policy.

I've not only got conclusive IP matches, but also PM's discussing his status.
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March 21st, 2021 at 10:31:27 AM permalink
Oncedear,

Just curious but is whine spelled whinge across the pond?

It's a serious question as I know there are some words spelled different. Example color in the states is colour where you are.
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March 21st, 2021 at 10:34:27 AM permalink
No. Whine and Whinge are different words. Similar meaning. Whinge is particularly British. sorry.
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March 21st, 2021 at 11:31:33 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Purely in the interest of clarity.... I understand some valued members here are concerned that mistakes have been made. (Well, I think I missed the C out of racquet somewhere, but that's trivial)

Direct messages relating to Racquet were exchanged back in December, while his account was active. Racquet was a second ID created by an established member in generally good standing. The reason for the two IDs was to be discussed. That dupe Id was noticed in December.

He'd previously contributed to Blackjack discussions with no inappropriate behaviour.... Except it was noted that he'd come back with this new ID which is against one of the forums strictest the rules.

He was temporarily suspended while it was was being decided what to do about the undenied fact that he had a previous user ID. Amnesty was being considered and he set up an account over on DT. Unfortunately, rather than make his own case for amnesty to Wizard (over on DT) , he decided to create two further ID's, Ghost and Fantom. He used the ID Fantom to repeatedly whinge about moderating policy here. That whinging sealed the fate for all of his ID's on WOV.

These users were NOT socks of Nathan, but they were multiple Ids of Racquet, without doubt or denial.

Racquet is still in good standing on DT if he still wants to make his case. He's made his case harder though.

If a member has a reasonable case for creating a 'replacement' user, Id, then it's better to make the case to Mike, than to fire up multiple further accounts to whinge about policy.

I've not only got conclusive IP matches, but also PM's discussing his status.



I am glad this is being discussed and hopefully looked into.

From my perspective, upon returning to WoV last summer, "racquet" participated in several nice blackjack discussions, expressing that he was nearing retirement and intended to play blackjack (card counting) part time during retirement with the goal of making a little money and scoring some comped meals. Very reasonable and I enjoyed the discussion. Not enough blackjack discussions in my opinion.

So when racquet was seemingly nuked out of the blue, in December, I was concerned but didn't want to ask questions, as I have enough problems staying out of trouble on this forum. lol.

I found the reason on the suspension list odd. Nuked for being a duplicate account of RhodyRob. (oddly, that notation is now gone)

So if you go back and look up RhodyRob, you will see: RhodyBob...join date Nov 28, 2013. Last post...August 6, 2014..
Now looking at racquet, you will see: Racquet....join date Dec 31, 2014.

My first thought was an honest mistake. the person who joined as RhodyRob and posted for a few months and then disappeared for 5 months, forgot their log on information, so they created a new account "racquet" and had participated for 6 years since as a pleasant member without any issues. If that was the case, I hope it can be straightened out so as not to lose a decent member who had interest in blackjack. If it is more than that...well so be it. I will just say that would make me sad.
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March 29th, 2021 at 10:09:45 AM permalink
Mdawg is insulting my thread
Suspension deserved
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March 29th, 2021 at 10:16:40 AM permalink



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March 29th, 2021 at 10:18:32 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Mdawg is insulting my thread
Suspension deserved

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/itinerant
Maybe disrespectful, but not pejorative.

I reckon you fell into his trap by paying homage to the thread title. Maybe we should have had Mdawg's adventures thread pay homage to a certain 'corner,' but too late now. $:o)

I will not appreciate seeing any more threads created to obviously relate to any one member. We have Mdawg's adventures and his investments. That's more than enough attention, regardless of positive or negative.
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March 29th, 2021 at 10:20:39 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/itinerant
Maybe disrespectful, but not pejorative.

I reckon you fell into his trap by paying homage to the thread title. Maybe we should have had Mdawg's adventures thread pay homage to a certain 'corner,' but too late now. $:o)

I will not appreciate seeing any more threads created to obviously relate to any one member. We have Mdawg's adventures and his investments. That's more than enough attention, regardless of positive or negative.



Damn, gotta scrap those plans now!
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