August 31st, 2021 at 10:39:04 AM
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I've been playing Spanish 21 on the demo version of Casino Verite where all 5's turn into 6's, so I can't hit a 16 expecting a 5 for a 21. I was playing with a $500 buy-in and my minimum bet would be $30 so if a suited triple 7's against a dealer 7 shows up, I don't know if I'll win $5,000 on this game, but at a real table I would. I'm racking up huge amounts of player error totals for playing Spanish 21 strategy on a BJ game. I really like that I win with a 5 card hand that doesn't bust, or I win on a 21 even when the dealer has a BJ but checks the card after I have played my hand already.

I started this session at around $14,500 and won to over $18K in 103 hands. I just invented this betting strategy I'm using just before I started playing today, and I won't share it. But I will show the results from the screenshots below. I finally had a lucky break, and this is what it looks like when that happens.

Trying to crop to the charts. Max size of around 800 x 600,

Resampling from HD to 800 x 450 on my PC just made it blurrier, so I'll upload the original HD

I started this session at around $14,500 and won to over $18K in 103 hands. I just invented this betting strategy I'm using just before I started playing today, and I won't share it. But I will show the results from the screenshots below. I finally had a lucky break, and this is what it looks like when that happens.

Trying to crop to the charts. Max size of around 800 x 600,

Resampling from HD to 800 x 450 on my PC just made it blurrier, so I'll upload the original HD

Last edited by: ChumpChange on Aug 31, 2021

August 31st, 2021 at 12:59:06 PM
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All 5's turn into 6's? So, essentially the shoe has no 5's and 2x the quantity of 6's?

Is this just a way to make the demo version un-usable?

LOL, it might be an interesting game variant, particularly for SP21.

Is this just a way to make the demo version un-usable?

LOL, it might be an interesting game variant, particularly for SP21.

Last edited by: gordonm888 on Aug 31, 2021

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August 31st, 2021 at 1:21:25 PM
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I think the real help would be springing $100 or whatever to pay for the software, but if I can win the game without that problem, I'm making progress. I started off with a $1,000 bankroll and I haven't looked back after 13K+ hands. I didn't know that Basic Strategy for the (5->6) even existed. What would the charts look like?

August 31st, 2021 at 1:34:39 PM
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Basic Strategy for SP21(5->6) doesn't exist, as far as I know, but some of us have the capabilities to generate it.

My post above originally asked if you wanted Sp21 (5->6) basic strategy but I amended it after I realized that the game you are playing may just be an artifact of your use of a demo copy of commercial software.

I can help you if you want help with strategy, but I'm assuming that 5->6 is just a designer artifact of the demo software to allow you to familiarize yourself with the CSV package without making it useful for analyzing BJ.

As I said above, removing all 5s from the shoe and replacing them with 6s would be an interesting variant of Sp21 (and perhaps BJ.) It may even be a game that hasn't already been invented by MrCasinoGames

My post above originally asked if you wanted Sp21 (5->6) basic strategy but I amended it after I realized that the game you are playing may just be an artifact of your use of a demo copy of commercial software.

I can help you if you want help with strategy, but I'm assuming that 5->6 is just a designer artifact of the demo software to allow you to familiarize yourself with the CSV package without making it useful for analyzing BJ.

As I said above, removing all 5s from the shoe and replacing them with 6s would be an interesting variant of Sp21 (and perhaps BJ.) It may even be a game that hasn't already been invented by MrCasinoGames

Last edited by: gordonm888 on Dec 28, 2021

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August 31st, 2021 at 3:27:25 PM
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The software company wants their money, and kewlJ recommended the software to me. Since I don't take card counting seriously enough to warrant a backoff, I don't play the game like a card counter would. If I paid for the software, that 5's to 6's glitch would disappear.

Last edited by: ChumpChange on Aug 31, 2021

September 16th, 2021 at 6:51:15 PM
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So I played some Video Poker on the Wiz's Site. I haven't played VP in so long, I really don't know best strategy anymore, but I'd keep a low pair and a high card and many times get 2 pair out of it. In the link below is some screenshots I posted in a thread because I just randomly decided to play.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/advice/36441-video-poker-1-coin-or-5-coin-bets/3/#post823812

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/advice/36441-video-poker-1-coin-or-5-coin-bets/3/#post823812

November 21st, 2021 at 10:21:59 PM
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I spent a couple hours playing Double Double Bonus VP on the Wiz's site. I got one 4 of a kind. Then the machine went cold and I quit with a loss of 500 credits.

December 3rd, 2021 at 2:24:11 AM
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I got to about 35 minutes into watching this UTH player buy-in for $2K and win it up to near $10K and I thought to myself, I don't really like this game, how is he getting lucky? MS Stud is my game. Well here's the video to watch his good luck.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkys7lOMQho

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I went to the Wizard's site and played for a couple hours of MS Stud at breakneck speed with the Wiz's error correction on so I don't get rowdy breaking the strategy.

I started with $50K, as that machine does, I can't set it. I played $100 ante the whole time. I had one big win when I was already down $15K.

I won $10K on a Full House! Yippee! Well, that was the last of it.

I lost down to $10K!

If I won 4 of a kind with a $1,000 bet, I'd win that $40K back, but it's too late, the session is over.

BIGGEST ULTIMATE TEXAS HOLDEM WIN EVER! CASHING OUT $14000!! - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkys7lOMQho

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I went to the Wizard's site and played for a couple hours of MS Stud at breakneck speed with the Wiz's error correction on so I don't get rowdy breaking the strategy.

I started with $50K, as that machine does, I can't set it. I played $100 ante the whole time. I had one big win when I was already down $15K.

I won $10K on a Full House! Yippee! Well, that was the last of it.

I lost down to $10K!

If I won 4 of a kind with a $1,000 bet, I'd win that $40K back, but it's too late, the session is over.

Last edited by: ChumpChange on Dec 3, 2021

December 26th, 2021 at 12:52:48 AM
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I started a new craps system/strategy the other day. I'd bet $300 on the Pass Line and start with 1X Odds. If I win the point, I'd bump it up to 1.5X Odds for the next two wins, then go to 2X Odds. After that I'd progress to 3X, 4X, 6X, 8X, and 10X Odds. I never got near 9 in a row wins during this session on the graph below, but on WinCraps it can happen, but much more often than on a real dice table because I can throw the dice every 3 seconds by mouse click on the screen here. My calculations say I could win near $20K on a 9 in a row winning streak with a $300 base bet, or around 66 Pass Line bets if the 5 & 9 are hitting on average. But 5 out of 6 PL odds points never get past 2 wins in a row. I started this session at $96K and won up to $112K for a $16K win, but the bankroll chart only shows the last 524 rolls with a $12,840 win.

The bad luck on my next session courtesy of WinCraps's "screw me at all costs" algorithm has me wondering what a buy-in should be or if I should just bet Don't Pass all the time. I tried the same strategy as above and lost over $20K in 524 rolls.

I reversed my system/strategy to the Don't Pass. I had my odds bet stacks in half odds amounts so I click twice to get single odds, thrice for 1.5X odds, four times for 2X Odds, 6 times for 3X Odds, 8 times for 4X Odds, 12 times for 6X Odds, 16 times for 8X Odds, and 20 times for 10X Odds. With a $300 PL, those half odds amounts would be $180 on the 6, 8, then $225 on the 5, 9, then $300 on the 4, 10. Now wouldn't you know it, a hot hand came up as soon as I switched to the dark side and brought me down below $90K. I almost recovered a bit with a 4X Odds win a bit later. But I was just getting whiplashed by raising my odds and not winning, and also the constant streams of Come-out 7's that negated whatever wins I just made. If a shooter had already made a point, I was stuck at 1X Odds. If a series of shooters don't make their points, then I start winning on the higher odds bets. Finally, at the end of this chart below, I hit 10X odds on the 10, so I had $6,300 on the line and I won it. I haven't decided if I should reduce my bets or keep running at 10X odds until I lose, but I have a lot of ground to make up to get from $95K to $112K. The last 100 rolls show I won $13K on that winning streak, from $82K to $95K, with a bunch of Come-out 7's knocking down my total wins.

WinCraps is having none of my staying ahead. I was $300K+ behind and raised my bets to $18K on the PL + Odds + 1 PB ($54K total, then add a progression) and I won back to +$177K ($77K ahead). Well, will the machine let me win a little more? I could get a couple more $100K at this rate. The answer was absolutely not! I lost $1,188,000 on the next 172 rolls, which is about 66 PL bets of $18K, while I was using my odds progression and leaving the PL the same.

Wow! That being 66 PL bets behind was suspicious. I kept playing and pressing my odds and that seemed to give me the bumps I needed to come back from over a million behind and put me to over $500K ahead. The next chart shows I won from -$1,103,975 to +$606,925 for a difference of +$1,710,900 over 524 rolls. I was still betting $18K on the PL with an odds progression and either the PB 6 or 8 for $18K with a progression. At the end I started maxing out the PB 8 at $180K at 9 in a row. I hit a high of $831,925, but when I sevened-out, the chips on the table were lost and I ended up at $606,925, so I had $225K of bets on the table ($18K PL + $27K odds too).

I got an update on my comps, which would be grossly affected by today's play.

The bad luck on my next session courtesy of WinCraps's "screw me at all costs" algorithm has me wondering what a buy-in should be or if I should just bet Don't Pass all the time. I tried the same strategy as above and lost over $20K in 524 rolls.

I reversed my system/strategy to the Don't Pass. I had my odds bet stacks in half odds amounts so I click twice to get single odds, thrice for 1.5X odds, four times for 2X Odds, 6 times for 3X Odds, 8 times for 4X Odds, 12 times for 6X Odds, 16 times for 8X Odds, and 20 times for 10X Odds. With a $300 PL, those half odds amounts would be $180 on the 6, 8, then $225 on the 5, 9, then $300 on the 4, 10. Now wouldn't you know it, a hot hand came up as soon as I switched to the dark side and brought me down below $90K. I almost recovered a bit with a 4X Odds win a bit later. But I was just getting whiplashed by raising my odds and not winning, and also the constant streams of Come-out 7's that negated whatever wins I just made. If a shooter had already made a point, I was stuck at 1X Odds. If a series of shooters don't make their points, then I start winning on the higher odds bets. Finally, at the end of this chart below, I hit 10X odds on the 10, so I had $6,300 on the line and I won it. I haven't decided if I should reduce my bets or keep running at 10X odds until I lose, but I have a lot of ground to make up to get from $95K to $112K. The last 100 rolls show I won $13K on that winning streak, from $82K to $95K, with a bunch of Come-out 7's knocking down my total wins.

WinCraps is having none of my staying ahead. I was $300K+ behind and raised my bets to $18K on the PL + Odds + 1 PB ($54K total, then add a progression) and I won back to +$177K ($77K ahead). Well, will the machine let me win a little more? I could get a couple more $100K at this rate. The answer was absolutely not! I lost $1,188,000 on the next 172 rolls, which is about 66 PL bets of $18K, while I was using my odds progression and leaving the PL the same.

Wow! That being 66 PL bets behind was suspicious. I kept playing and pressing my odds and that seemed to give me the bumps I needed to come back from over a million behind and put me to over $500K ahead. The next chart shows I won from -$1,103,975 to +$606,925 for a difference of +$1,710,900 over 524 rolls. I was still betting $18K on the PL with an odds progression and either the PB 6 or 8 for $18K with a progression. At the end I started maxing out the PB 8 at $180K at 9 in a row. I hit a high of $831,925, but when I sevened-out, the chips on the table were lost and I ended up at $606,925, so I had $225K of bets on the table ($18K PL + $27K odds too).

I got an update on my comps, which would be grossly affected by today's play.

Last edited by: ChumpChange on Dec 26, 2021

December 27th, 2021 at 4:14:03 PM
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The chart below is after I switched from PL & 1 Come with Progressive Odds that was losing in reverse so bad I had to go to the darkside. The last 400 rolls I lost $1818.

I was betting $40 Don't Pass (& 1 Don't Come, replaced on a loss) with $48 odds on the 6, 8, $60 Odds on the 5, 9, and $80 Odds on the 4, 10. But when my balance got above around $582,400 I'd try to change my odds to $72, $90, $120 so they'd pay $60. WinCraps didn't like that and kept bringing me under that amount. I felt I could pull away because I'd win an extra $20 on point 7-outs. Looking at my betting chart, I should have increased my odds so they'd pay $80 instead of $60 so if I win both bets with odds they'd pay a total win of $240. I could have pressed to $60 DP + Odds pay $60, or stayed at $40 DC + Odds pay $80. But I was stuck trying to win $40 + $40 Odds times 2 and basically spinning my wheels. I'd lose $1,000 then win it back shortly with a bunch of point 7-outs.

Occasionally, the hot shooter mode brings my Don't side betting to a severe downswing and that's where I'm ending on this chart.

I'm trying to break up my newfound winnings in the post above into $10K sessions. But I'm really disappointed in the PL + 1 Come action that was just cursed and I'm losing my 2nd $10K session with it since switching to the Don'ts didn't bring me back up either.

I was betting $40 Don't Pass (& 1 Don't Come, replaced on a loss) with $48 odds on the 6, 8, $60 Odds on the 5, 9, and $80 Odds on the 4, 10. But when my balance got above around $582,400 I'd try to change my odds to $72, $90, $120 so they'd pay $60. WinCraps didn't like that and kept bringing me under that amount. I felt I could pull away because I'd win an extra $20 on point 7-outs. Looking at my betting chart, I should have increased my odds so they'd pay $80 instead of $60 so if I win both bets with odds they'd pay a total win of $240. I could have pressed to $60 DP + Odds pay $60, or stayed at $40 DC + Odds pay $80. But I was stuck trying to win $40 + $40 Odds times 2 and basically spinning my wheels. I'd lose $1,000 then win it back shortly with a bunch of point 7-outs.

Occasionally, the hot shooter mode brings my Don't side betting to a severe downswing and that's where I'm ending on this chart.

I'm trying to break up my newfound winnings in the post above into $10K sessions. But I'm really disappointed in the PL + 1 Come action that was just cursed and I'm losing my 2nd $10K session with it since switching to the Don'ts didn't bring me back up either.

Last edited by: ChumpChange on Dec 27, 2021