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August 1st, 2023 at 4:58:14 AM permalink
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But then gas prices could soar for the rest of the year and I need to win enough to pay for the gas if I'm travelling long distance for the cheaper tables. This may not work.
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$25 tables are the norm most everywhere now.
If there are $10 tables, expect them to be slowed with sidebets and crowds.
I wouldn't be surprised if a number of tribal properties will comp you a tank of gas, if your style of play allows for a club card.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 5th, 2023 at 2:39:44 AM permalink
I was playing Pai Gow Poker for the first time at the Wizard's site. I got interested in the game after watching Victor win a session on YouTube recently.
I noticed I kept getting little nag screens that I can't raise my bet because I just became banker. What?
I had to dig more for information about Pai Gow Player Banker and ran across these items.







So while I was playing on the Wizard's site I got a push I didn't expect as I was a Banker. I clearly lost the high hand with high card vs. one pair, but the dealer pushed on my low hand.


I haven't seen any live casino videos of people going around the table being Banker, and a few references I ran across said you can't be Banker unless you have $30K on the table. Being Banker is supposed to lower the house edge to near 0% for those few hands that you play as Banker. From what I can gather it's about 3 wins to 3 losses to 4 ties per 10 hands.
I was getting stuck on player's paying a 5% commission on winning hands then I ran across this commission-free table Victor was playing at.


I had one session on the Wizard's site where I won about 10 hands ahead, lost 15 hands back, then won 15 hands again. So I'm thinking I could just play Pai Gow Poker without making the Fortune bet (Victor's luck on that is so bad sometimes, ouch!), and if I find a $20 table I could either bet the $5 minimum on the Fortune Bet, bet $0 on the Fortune Bet, or integrate it to 20%-25% of my regular bet until I hit the table max for the Fortune bet. But will I get to $30K with or without betting on & winning the Fortune bets? If I run across table maximums that are too low, I could just play 2 spots with double the session money. But I think I'll start expecting to win 10 bets ahead then calling it quits per gaming day.
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August 5th, 2023 at 7:49:20 PM permalink
Playing on the Wiz's games site again and had 3 hands in a row that would have paid off had I been betting the Fortune Bet if there was one. I was betting $45 on the regular bet and if I was betting 20% of that extra on the Fortune Bet, or $9, that would have paid
25 to 1 or $225 twice for two 4 of a kind winners in a row and spread an Envy Bonus of $5 twice around the table. The third hand was a 4 flusher straight and would have paid $18 instead of $450 for a straight flush.
I didn't split the Kings in the first hand and pushed with an Ace-7. I did split the Aces in the 2nd hand. My rubbish beat their rubbish for low hand in the 3rd hand.
Winning the Fortune Bet would have brought me back to near even with the starting $1K bankroll, but I've lost track of how many hands wouldn't have paid anything to get this far, so maybe I'm ahead anyway by not betting the Fortune Bet.
I turned off the rotating Banker option early in the session because it was interfering with my betting style.



Continuing play - I raised my bet to $60 and ran across this head scratcher. I went against the prompt and played it anyway. Flush beats a straight they say. I guess my low hand was supposed to be 10-7 with a 9 high straight behind it. That would have been a push.

I'm on a roll of hot hands that would have made the Fortune bet a winner by now. It comes down to whether the hands are awful all the time or great much of the time. I'm losing most hands but the Fortune wins would have put me ahead. Fortune wins are the way to win when the dealer has an Ace-High Pai Gow to push the hand but the Fortune bet pays off.

I'm down to $30 bets now and with a 20% side bet of $6, a straight flush would pay off 50 to 1 or $300. I'm almost tapped out. I've read the wheel is the 2nd highest straight in this game, so just one notch lower than a Royal Straight Flush. Don't forget the $20 Envy payout around the table.

This session ended down about 25 bets. The bad beats never stopped.
I could play with or without the Fortune Bonus, but I'm thinking of all the good hands that would have paid and kept me afloat, I should bet the Fortune Bonus.
If 5 Aces is the proverbial "impossible hand" I've got to figure the ones higher than that are even more impossible, and they all are taxable.

I am really losing at this game badly. I've lost $1,000 four times tonight, so I'm down 100 bets. I thought maybe my beginner's luck on this would make a great alternative to BJ with that game's obvious slant towards losing hands at 60%. Seems I'm losing worse than that on this game. I've even tried progressions looking for 6 in a rows and 9 in a row wins, but as helpful as they are when they arrive, they aren't enough against this game. I'm beginning to doubt how good the Fortune side bet would be, but I'd have to use a progression on that that matched my regular bet, and same bet on a push. I'm sure a well timed win on the Fortune bet could make up for like 5 to 25 $1,000 session losses in one hand flat.
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August 17th, 2023 at 2:25:55 PM permalink
I'm trying out a new Paroli 4 hit system suggested by a new poster, monodactyl.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/38467-is-there-something-to-huge-paroli-bets-in-blackjack-or-am-i-just-getting-really-lucky/#post896410
My base bet is $300. On a win I double to $600, on the next win I double to $1.2K, then finally I double to $2.4K and maintain that bet until a loss. This works great when winning a lot at max bet! But there could be a 100-200 unit loss-wait between runs that put me well ahead. I played my typical session of at least 400 hands, well I cut it short a few hands because I ended up on a winning streak. I went from $80K to $115K early on then slowly lost down to $90K, so a 50 unit loss back. I bounced around between $90K & $100K until a final streak of double downs and such at max bet put me up nearly $15K at the end.
I did bet $225 one time because I misclicked on a drop down menu.
So the stats will be vastly different from what I'm used to.







Now I'm getting antsy to do full parlays of the double-ups I win; say $300 double to $600 wins $600 then there's $1200 in the spot for the next bet because getting to 4 in a row wins is hard. But scraping off the excess chips to a strictly double-up adds a unit or two or four here and there so I'm not sure which way to go. But it seems getting to $2400 quickest would be the priority, so maybe I'll try that on the next session.

I didn't use surrenders this time because I was trying to get these double-ups. Well, I did surrender a couple times early on then changed my mind.
It looks like I was down 9 units at the $300 level, up 3 units at the $600 level, up 30 units at the $1.2K level and up 84 units at the $2.4K level.
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August 17th, 2023 at 4:17:18 PM permalink
I tried another session where I just doubled the double down wins, but that only affected 2 or 3 hands and was inconsequential to the totally bad losing streak this game perpetrated on me! ONLY ONE WINNING 4 in a row to be had out of 172 hands and ONLY ONE MAX BET WON OUT OF 7! I keep saying these computer games build me up with a winning streak only to tear me down the next time and this was the very next session! I'm hardly winning 28.5% of my hands, that has to be a near record low on this game for me for a session! I only had THREE $300 Blackjacks, compare that to the previous session of 15 BJ's!.






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August 20th, 2023 at 11:29:40 PM permalink
Because the forum has been modified to include 50 posts per page instead of 10, I find myself posting on page 2 instead of supposedly page 10 or so.
I just played the Wiz's Pai Gow Poker game without any Fortune Bonus adventures. I played during a couple of hour long TV episodes of something on a streaming service and had some good luck. It was up & down and I can try to push my luck, and I did get higher, but I'm gonna post a win goal that I reached. I'm stopping at $3K up from a $1K buy-in for a $2K profit. I think that's at least 15 wins ahead even without counting the 5% discounts on each win which would make it higher. I could try to get to $4K or $8K or higher, but since I've been playing so long tonight I've got to lock in some profits. I'm not sure what to expect for upward swings on this game, but the cards can turn awful on a dime and result in too many dealer wins in a row.


I got up to $5K before dropping back an hour or so later.
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August 30th, 2023 at 1:12:36 AM permalink
Playing Buffalo 1024 Ways slots on demo mode at a website with play money. I get $5,000 to start with. There's all kinds of betting levels.
https://www.casino.org/games/free/

I started betting $4/spin and I was down a bit but got the 3 coins and in the 1st free spin round, got to 23 free spins and won $189.60 (or just under 50X my bet), and that brought me back above even. It was labelled as a BIG WIN!


I raised my bet to $6 for 50 spins and didn't get the 3 coins so I doubled my bet to $12/spin for another 50 spins round. I hit the 3 coins for 91 free spins. There were a lot of 2 coin wins adding 5 free spins to the total, and a very few 3 coin wins adding 8 free spins. I won almost 525X my bet! It was labelled as an ULTRA WIN!


Then I raised my bet to $40/spin and hit 4 gold coins across for 15 free spins to start off. I was already down over $2.6K from the last JP. I ran it up to 111 free spins! I was awarded a MEGA WIN that was about 290X my bet.



I didn't know what to do at this point, so I set my bet for $120/spin and set the auto spin for 100 spins again. I lost $6,675 or 55X my bet in the 1st 100 spins and ended up at $14,410. I lost another $4,476 or 37X my bet in the next 100 spins and ended up at $9,664. I lowered my bet to $80 then lost another $1,478 or 18X my bet in the next 100 spins and ended up at $8,186. Then it was another 68 spins before I hit the 3 gold coins and all I got was 8 free spins that won me $1,414 and I wound up at $8,240, or up $56 from the previous 68 spins. I tried another 100 spins at $80/spin and lost $2,864 or 35X my bet and ended up at $5,376.35.

I've never played this game before and there were only 3 handpays to worry about but they totaled $19,327.70 and I lost just about all of it back with reckless betting hoping the 3 coin free spin rounds would come around in 50 to 150 spins, but one took 368 spins to come around and it was a flat nothing burger. If I won 500X my $120 bet, I would have won another $60K.
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August 30th, 2023 at 3:00:56 AM permalink
I played a Grease slot machine for the first time at the same site as above, I was clear out on page 8 of slots. I started betting 10 Euros per spin or 0.50 on 20 lines with a starting buy-in of €1,000. I was down 26 units then I got to the pick a picture bonus and won €1,600 (alt+0128 for €). There's not much to win on this game unless you get to the bonus rounds, and waiting for that bonus round can be traumatic. So I put it on 50 spin autospin and after 14 spins and being down €7.50 from the last bonus balance of €2,340 I hit yellow Grease balls on reels 1,3 & 5 for the next bonus round. I chose the 12 free games in Better Shape Up Bonus and won €1,090 and that put me up to €3,422.50.
And while it was counting up it went from BIG WIN to MEGA WIN somewhere around €750-€900 as shown below.

My autoplay ended at €3,245 so I doubled my bet to €20 and played for 99 spins. I ended up at €1,770 for a loss of €1,475 or 73.75X my bet. Come again? I just bet €1,980 and lost €1,475 of it? That's a RTP of 25.5%! That's traumatic!

I lowered my bet back to €10 and I lost another €400 then got to the bonus round. I chose 4 Summer Nights Free Games and won €1,030! I was now at €2,260 and I raised my bet to €20/spin on 20 lines which is the maximum. I lost down to €2,205 and wound up with another bonus round in quick succession and chose pick a picture. I won €3,840 on that and was up to €6,045.
So I played another 99 spins at €20/spin and lost down to €4,955, or a €1,090 loss or a 45% RTP! Damn!
I played another 99 spins and lost down to €4,000, or a €955 loss or a 51.7% RTP! Damn!
So I quit the game at €4,000 left, but I could have quit after the last JP at €6K.
The soundtrack is catchy if you like Grease at all but I think it's mainly for tourists who will only play the machine to get a taste of it.
A couple of the JP's were not available which is odd, so I didn't hit those.
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September 7th, 2023 at 1:45:04 AM permalink
I finally found a Fortune Pai Gow Poker place to play with play money.
I did OK for an hour, then the bottom fell out with like a dozen losses in a row not counting ties. I came upon a quirk in the game where it would pay me like a tie when I actually won. It happened a few times so I'll post them here. There's no Ace high Pai Gow that the dealer has that would cause a push.

The first one is an actual tie where my low hand was the same as the dealer's low hand so the dealer wins because he's the banker, but my high hand beat his high hand so I win that one. It's an L + W = P. Count up my $40 bet and return it to me as a +$40.


The next one I have 3 of a kind Queens beating 3 of a kind 8's, and Ace-King beating a 9-5. I should get a +$80 back in my betting spot but the site called it a tie. I was betting $8 on the Fortune Bonus and won 4 for 1 or +$32. In the lower right you can see my total bet was $48. The win amount on the bottom is added to my balance after the hand is discarded when I click on my winning amount in the center large rectangle.


What should have happened in the previous screenshot was I needed a +$80 in the betting spot when I win both hands.


I did hit 4 of a kind and won a 26 for 1 Fortune Bonus on my $8 bet. I'm not sure if I should decouple my Fortune Bet amount from my regular bet amount and have 2 stacks of chips at the table and play them separately. When I'm stuck with just a score on the internet I can't really decouple them into 2 stacks without excess handwriting.


Here's another deal where I won both hands but got paid like it was a tie.

I lowered my bet for this one and still got ripped off with a tie instead of a win.


I'll have to find another place to play that doesn't have quirks like that. But this was the place that wanted real money, so I didn't click that button and played with play money.
https://www.vegasslotsonline.com/table-games/fortune-pai-gow-poker/
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September 28th, 2023 at 4:50:03 PM permalink
Calling a session double-up after 16 hands with an 11 in a row win streak. (+$10K)


Logs of getting from the $30K bankroll to the $200K bankroll.






Trip 1 win/loss graph: $30K starting bankroll after starting at $1K by mistake.



Trip 2 win/loss graph.



Trip 3 win/loss graph.



Trip 5 win/loss graph. Trip 4 utterly skipped and doesn't exist.



The dealer is usually beating the player on winning streaks of 3 in a row or higher.


Whatever I'm doing, I'm up 1.31% so far on $12 million bet during 34.2K hands. The >$2K bets are anything not listed and are likely below $2K, but a very few are above $2K.
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October 25th, 2023 at 6:33:10 AM permalink
I'm on a new 3 Card Poker kick inexplicably. I'm going to copy a post of mine from that thread and put it here since it's so hot.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/1194-3-card-poker/#post905557

I found the game on the Wizard's site at https://wizardofodds.com/play/three-card-poker/
I started out with a $10,000 bankroll but kept my bets to a minimum to get a feel for the game. I tried betting just $10 on the Ante bet with a matching Play bet when called for and lost nearly $300 fairly quickly. So I switched it up to $15 on the Ante and $5 on the Pair Plus bet and $15 on the Play bet when called for. I won my $300 back but lost a couple hundred back. Then this happened. I won a straight flush vs a flush. I had a mini-Royal. I wonder if some tables pay for mini-Royals. The Wiz's site has no 6 Card bet. No 5 card Royal was won here. A 5 card straight flush (non-Royal) pays 200 to 1 or on a $5 6 Card Bonus bet would pay $200.
My $15 Ante bet paid $15 + $75; my Play bet paid $15; my $5 Pair Plus bet paid $200; and my $35 wager came back for a total of $340 Win in the box shown. That $1 progressive would have paid off whatever it was worth, but it hit very early.


I played a handful of hands more, like 5 maybe and hit 3 of a kind.
My $15 Ante bet paid $15 + $60; my Play bet paid $15; my $5 Pair Plus bet paid $150; and my $35 wager came back for a total of $275 Win in the box shown.


I doubled my bets and played for another half hour before I hit another 3 of a kind for myself.
My $30 Ante bet paid $30 + $120; my Play bet paid $30; my $10 Pair Plus bet paid $300; and my $70 wager came back for a total of $550 Win in the box shown.


10 minutes later I hit a second straight flush!
My $30 Ante bet paid $30 + $150; my Play bet paid $30; my $10 Pair Plus bet paid $400; and my $70 wager came back for a total of $680 Win in the box shown.


3 hands later I hit another straight flush. I had increased my Pair Plus bet to half of the ante bet or upped it $5 to $15.
My $30 Ante bet paid $30 + $150; my Play bet paid $30; my $15 Pair Plus bet paid $600; and my $75 wager came back for a total of $885 Win in the box shown.


My computer crashed or shutdown involuntarily so when I got back my game had started over. I started out betting $50 on the Ante and Play bets and $25 on the Pair Plus bet. Within 10 minutes I hit another 3 of a kind. Real time table conditions would be much much slower.
My $50 Ante bet paid $00 (Dealer did not qualify) + $200; my Play bet paid $50; my $25 Pair Plus bet paid $750; and my $125 wager came back for a total of $1,125 Win in the box shown. I came back up $50 short of even.


When my Pair Plus bet is half of my Ante bet and I get a Flush but lose to the Dealer, at least I get a Push out of it and win back my total bet amount.
$25 Pair Plus bet pays $100 for a $125 Win with the winning wager returned. Total wagers were $125.


Flushes pay 4 to 1 in this old school game. Las Vegas tables have been lowered to 3 to 1. But if you're outside of Vegas, look for 4 to 1 payouts.

I upped my bets to $100 on the Ante/Play and $50 on the Pairs Plus. I was on quite the losing streak but hit 3 of a kind to get back to even.
My $100 Ante bet paid $100 + $400; my Play bet paid $100; my $50 Pair Plus bet paid $1,500; and my $250 wager came back for a total of $2,350 Win in the box shown.
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December 7th, 2023 at 4:14:18 PM permalink

I got a bit flustered and thought I'd play the Field bet (12 pays triple) on a progression of $100, $150 (2X), $200, $300 etc. but it never got above $300, aka no more than 4 wins in a row. So in 254 rolls with no other bets and not stopping for come-outs I lost 50 units or $5,000 (from the dotted red line on to the right on the graph). To the left of the dotted red line I was getting mostly nearly point 7-outs and lost about 50 points (PL with some odds) from the upper left of the graph. WinCraps does not let up on the bad streaks. I mean I won to 20 points ahead the night before, so I thought I had a system all ready for today. I even added $15 side bets on the 4 and 10 to run up a progression. What's fun about those is that I could win each one 3 times and win the same $140 as hitting one of them 4 times and hitting the other once. That's as far as I got. But when everything is point 7-out, it's just $30 wasted each time because they don't even get a single hit. Just trying to figure out a way to win $9.4K times two for hitting the 4 & 10 10 times each on one shooter.

I lost another $1,000 playing variously. The following graph is a continuation of the bad luck but to the right of the red line is where the dice turned around and rewarded my DP with some odds (two DP with odds bets per shooter before switching sides to the PL with odds for that shooter). I was up maybe 15 points in 212 rolls and won back $673 to get back to even on the 2nd $1,000 session buy-in. I was betting $12 on the DP with either $12, $24, $36, or $48 on odds depending on my balance. Of course I'd bet higher if I get on the plus side of this session. But the main gist of this strategy is for $500 buy-ins and running it up to $6K with 35 points to my favor.
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December 24th, 2023 at 8:59:12 AM permalink
Played MS Stud on the Wiz's site for several hours in 2 sessions of flat betting. I started out with the usual $50K bankroll and bet $10 antes with bets totaling up to $100 per hand over the 4 spots.
I hit quad 2's on a folded hand and won nothing.

Later, I hit a Full House for $1,000 and raised my balance to $48K after being down 300 X $10 units.

Then I lost patience and thought about high rolling it a bit. I tried a $50 ante for a few hands, and that would win me $50K with a straight flush if I had a full bet down of $500 on it. But I'm finding I may not have a full bet down on straight flushes and may miss a 3 bet or two. So I increased my ante to $125 so a $1250 full bet times 40 for quads would pay $50K which is the maximum payout at my local casino for this game. If I only had $500 down (4 X $125) on the full bet for a straight flush, that would pay $50K also. I quickly won back the couple thousand I was down and even hit a full house for a $10K payout.

But that was the last full house I saw while I lost $31K (-250 units) before winning the next $10K full house. Actually, I was down to $12.5K (-375 units) but had recovered with smaller wins in quicker succession before hitting this full house.

I lost another $5K quickly (-40 units) then won another $10K payout on a full house.

I made a couple smaller movements to $49K but lost back to $40K, like the machine knew not to let me get back to even.
Then the bottom fell out and there were no more full houses all the way down to $10K (-300+ units).
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January 30th, 2024 at 10:42:15 PM permalink
I thought I would stop wasting time playing my Roku 3 Black Jack game but I still can't help myself. After several recent losing sessions this week I had a breakthrough. Tonight's starting bankroll was $515 and I played like I was at a $15 to $1,000 table. In 21 minutes and 14 seconds I played 163 hands and got my bankroll to $13,092.50 with a session bet of $46,605 and a session won of $12,577.50, or +27% return on the betting.

Now, since I'm over a $5,000 bankroll, the table limits of the game have moved to $100 to $5,000, so I've got to find a chart for that. I could do $3,250 sessions, but this game will put me on a never ending losing streak soon enough. That's the problem with this game. The table limits get pushed up too high and it wrecks the way I'd normally play. I'd still be playing on a $25 table if this were my game.

Here's an update on my cumulative totals today. 46,921 hands played. Total bet of $9,797,310. Total won of -$33,907.50. So I've knocked $12K off my losses in just a few shoes. The reason I actually have any losses is because I was given $500 free each day to play with and I lost it along the way. So $47K / $500 = 94 days of play.

I've had this game to over $100K before but it ran me through a never-ending losing streak down to $0. I think I was playing $10K sessions at the time, and a winner on any one of those would put me back up $100K. I'll see if I can do $3,250 sessions this time.

I lost the 1st $3250 session in 129 hands. I lost the 2nd session in 62 hands. I lost the 3rd session in 103 hands. I lost the 4th session in 513 hands. So all of those had an opportunity to get me to over $40K, but they went into never-ending loser mode instead.
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February 5th, 2024 at 9:06:35 PM permalink
My latest 22 sessions of Blackjack.
1st table is from $105K balance to $190K in about 7K hands.
2nd table is from $190K to $290K in about 5K hands.
The purpose of this is to mark down Winning and Losing sessions in anticipation of tax time.
This is a play money game in demo mode so not a real casino game. But to get a handle on how to figure out how to report wins and losses by sessions is how this is coming out.


Lose Win
-$4,987.50 $32,850.00
-$5,100.00 $35,475.00
-$4,825.00 $95,700.00
-$5,137.50 Cum = $164,025
-$4,950.00
-$32,700.00
-$5,250.00
-$5,000.00
-$10,750.00
Cum = -$78,700.00



Lose Win
-$10,375.00 $21,175.00
-$10,030.00 $10,000.00
-$10,025.00 $10,000.00
-$10,450.00 $102,750.00
-$10,100.00 $7,125.00
Cum = -$50,980.00 Cum = $151,050.00
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February 7th, 2024 at 3:32:23 AM permalink
This morning's triple session: lost about 6% of $1/2 million bet over 812 hands, down $30K or 3X 25 unit buy-ins. That's getting near off the charts bad luck right there, near -4 SD for the last third of the chart.


This was played after this post was made: Blackjack Returns, where I tried to fathom the match bonus for online deposits with 50X playthrough for Black Jack.
My answer was: "You'll probably want to withdraw your original $1,000 when you get down to $1,000 if you want it back for something else. Flat betting at $5 is what you should be doing with $2,000 here." The OP was losing 6% over 500 hands and was wondering if the game was rigged. Hmmm, when I just lost 6% here, it looks rigged. It's more like the machine is not going to allow a Player winning streak to go unpunished and then some with extended Dealer winning streaks.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/38917-blackjack-returns/#post917425

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February 9th, 2024 at 1:22:44 AM permalink
Lost $10K in 120 hands, won it back starting a new session in the first 9 hands.
I lost 12% of my total bets in this round, double what I was complaining about last time.


Win rate was over 76%
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February 18th, 2024 at 6:44:51 AM permalink
After sidling up to a roulette table to play for the very first time, I was at a $25 table and all I had were 2 green chips and two $25 Match Plays. I had to get them signed before use and I accidently gave him a drawing slip instead of my 2nd Match Play slip. So he had to sign that between my first bet and my second bet. The dealer exchanged balls before the first spin, and she looked away from the wheel as she was letting go of the ball. The first spin was a green 0 or 00. I was betting even money on the even numbers, so I repeated my bet and she exchanged balls again and spun a 4, so I won the second spin. That's -$25 on the 1st spin and +$50 on the 2nd spin for a grand total of +1 green chip on 2 spins.
I was figuring last night that if I hung around for 5 weeks or 20 Match Plays and the results were even such that if I were betting $50 all by myself, I'd be up $250 in a 10W-10L round of 20 spins because of the Match Play. Variance will move that dream, around.

So I got out my home game of roulette this morning and with my abacus counting the number of spins and a handheld calculator totaling up the total bet amount, I set out on a session to either lose $1,000 or win $1,000 within 50 spins using my (-13, +7) strategy. The starting bet amount was $120, the high bet amount was $180 for the last 3 wins to the goal, and I'd lower my bet amount to $80 if I fell below an $800 balance, and $60 if I fell below a $380 balance. I started the session with $1,040 instead of $1,000 even, and that did play into how this ended a little. This was a better session because I wasn't coming from far behind with lower bets. But it still ran 3X as long as I would have liked just to get to 7 bets ahead. There's slippage when I vary my bets and that adds to how many bets my final goal will require, and I don't really fathom that, it's just all or nothing on win/loss goals with these sessions.

After 158 spins, my total bet was $19,460, and I was up $1,080. So at 50 spins an hour in a casino, that'd be a 3 hour session. I was wondering what comps I could get for that with an HA of just over $1,000, probably $300, but if I was playing on a machine, it'd be more like $30 in points, and no tier points. But it's something to try if I want to stay on the mailer, maybe with a $500 session buy-in instead at the $25 table, or $250 at the $15 table. This session was more about a $50 minimum bet table, and trying to deal with $1,000 sessions.

The sign at the local roulette tables say Min $15 or $25 and Max of $100. I had to ask questions to find out what that meant. The Min number is how much the inside numbers need total up to in bets, or the minimum value of the outside numbered bets. The Max number is how much can be bet on a single number on the inside. I'm sure there's lots of math involved trying to figure that out at times. But in the ultra tiny print on the sign which I could barely read even with magnifying glasses on while I was right next to it, it said the dozens bet max is $2,500 and the even money bet is $5,000. For years I thought they just crimped the game with a $100 maximum bet on the outside. I had no reason to play at the table since the minimums went up with COVID, and a machine was brought in to supplement play.
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February 28th, 2024 at 4:33:43 PM permalink
Just losing session after session today and a few days before. Of course when I have sessions where I'm losing over 25% of my total bet almost all the way through it, I'll lose that much faster. I'm down to $200K from $290K, so down $90K or 9 sessions or 225 bets. This session was only 105 hands.
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March 1st, 2024 at 12:39:41 PM permalink
Had a 58 hand come-back and I'm gonna lock up some wins with a +28% profit to total bet session ($110K bet).
I was winning 62% of my hands excluding pushes.
I went from a buy-in that brought me down to $190K and won me back to $230K. I'm getting skittish about extreme bad luck runs following good luck runs like this especially after the shuffle and it's almost the end of the shoe.


The next session was with a new shuffle and lasted 59 hands with a loss of $10,775, or about -44% of my total bet of just under $25K. That must be a new record or close to one. I only won 27.45% of the hands excluding pushes.


Next session I was at my top betting level by hand #128 and split an $8K hand and doubled down on one for a $24K win on a $24K bet. When I swipe them off the betting spot it will put me over $300K. I thought I'd keep up with the top level betting just a little bit longer, but the bottom fell out and I lost the session.
I had 552 hands with a total bet of $916K and lost just under $10K for a net loss of -1.08% of the total bet on the below session.

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March 9th, 2024 at 2:54:14 AM permalink
Came back from nearly last bet on demo BJ and won to $30K ahead, then lost 50 bets in one shoe and was back down to nearly the last bet again.
I can't get stats on how often the dealer gets BJ but 6 times in 10 hands is not far off the mark. I'm getting PTSD everytime I'm asked for insurance on the dealer's Ace now. I'm just getting flustered with the unbelievable wins the dealer is getting.
I've got a streak chart that adds up to a difference of 50, which doesn't make sense to me when my session was supposed to be for a 25 bet buy-in.
I was there too long and the clock malfunctioned after 5 hours. Since the time starts with -86.3K seconds, I'm gonna infer bad things happened. It doesn't move from there, the last two digits keep rolling around from 99 to about 30 and back again.
I've lost 15 sessions in a row, but I've had the chance to cash out at a profit a few times, I've not timed it right and the machine took over with a prompt losing streak each time.




The total bet amount was just under $1.23 million over 1.3K hands at $933/hand. The running average was just over $1K for a little bit but slid during the last losing streak. The HA on $1.23 million is $6,150 at 0.5%, so if my total bet gets to $2 million then the HA exceeds my $10K buy-in. At 2K hands at $1K/hand average that could happen. But there's no way to count my total bet at a real casino table or how many hands I've played or what the HA is, just how many hours I've been sitting there playing.
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March 9th, 2024 at 10:14:46 PM permalink
Lowered my session buy-in to $5K so I'd have 30X buy-ins left out of $150K, but I'd likely lower my buy-ins as my bankroll gets smaller but I'd revaluate that later. Played 1427 hands in 3.75 hours or 380 hands per hour. I had two spots where I could have cashed in at a profit: of either $5K or $15K, but from the graph, there wasn't much plateau at those levels, just a sharp drop. I'm playing hundreds and hundreds of hands at lower bet levels going up and down, but when I get into profit territory, the machine just goes straight up and straight back down. Several times I was down to my last bet and recovered to my full buy-in. I wasn't using a progression on a win this time or on last night's post. It doesn't really matter if I use the progression except the machine seems to tighten up considerably when I use it and I can't get into profit territory as much but it does help me recover from last bet situations that turn favorable suddenly. The machine seems looser when I don't use it it. Check out this streak chart.



When I don't use progressions, I can play with this $5K buy-in at my local high limit room that has $100 - $3K BJ tables.
Damn, just overheard Lucy Ewing calling a casino looking for her father Gary Ewing (a dealer) at a casino on a rerun of Dallas S2 E9 on Freevee. She's an orphan at the Ewing mansion.
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March 20th, 2024 at 2:46:18 AM permalink
Played $12 on the PL, PB 6 & 8 and odds ($10 odds on the 6/8) and ran a progression that really pays off when there's a hot shooter. But there was no hot shooter racking my progressions up to their limits. So out of about 500 rolls, I lost almost $1200, or 100 X $12. The power of Point 7-out is at play here because that's what WinCraps does to me after some beginner's luck.
I'm getting the feeling it is easier to lose to 25 times behind on the PL than to win 25 times ahead on the PL and a switch to the Don't Pass is in order. But as soon as I switch sides, the table heats up like never before so I'm just jinxed.

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March 22nd, 2024 at 2:20:55 AM permalink
Playing home game roulette and betting Black with a progression. The latest number picked is to the top left, then goes across the top row, then continues across the bottom row from left to right. So starting with the first black 35, I hit 6 in a row; then there was a red, then 2 blacks (I need 2 blacks in a row for this progression), then 9 losers in a row including 3 greens, then 5 blacks in a row including three 35's in a row! That's five 35's in 26 spins!
I'm kind of getting sick of my poor luck at bubble craps and thinking of trying a buy-in or two on the roulette machine for a couple of hours or more. It's about 54 spins an hour, so 3 greens an hour. If I ever get this strategy going, I don't know how I'll deal with 1,000 $5 or $10 chips at a real table after 2-3 hours if I win.


I started a session with around $650 with 25 bets to start. I'm running my progression. I was run down to about $200 but won back to over $1,500. I didn't get to my final win goal of $4,050, or even triple my buy-in at $1,950. So I kept playing for too long. Then I get streaks like this where reds make up 16 hits to 8 hits of black & 2 hits of green; I'm down 10 bets not counting the progression just on the colors.
I included an artist rendition of myself in this game. My name and money balance usually appear where Just Lost appears, so I usually edit/omit that out.
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March 22nd, 2024 at 8:56:33 PM permalink
Playing Roku 3 Video Poker and finally had a good night. I was up $300 at one point. $200 of the win was from being dealt quad deuces and a 4 but I forgot to save the 4 (I meant to save it after thinking about it but hit the wrong button) and drew an Ace and got the $200 win on Double Double Bonus Poker anyway. That's my highest win so far after 14,833 hands, and it put me up to $1,288.75 behind.
I got a straight flush for $62.50 at hand 14,981 that boosted me to $1,218.75 behind. I'm almost at $18,750 total bet which would be about $31.25 in points at $6/point, so the comps are virtually pointless except for a couple burgers or subs.
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March 23rd, 2024 at 5:17:54 PM permalink
I played an extra session of DDB VP this morning and went an hour without hitting quads. So when I did finally hit it I was down $142.50 over 551 hands or $688.75 total bet, or down 20.7%! In this game it depends which quads I get. If it's the normal quads that pay $62.50 (250 coins), I would have been down $80 or down 11.62%. If it's the quads that pay 400 coins ($100), like this one was, I would have been down $42.50 or down 6.2%. If it was the quads that pay 800 coins ($200), I would have been up $57.50 or up 8.3%.

I've played for 2.33 hours before getting quads previously, so the losses would be much larger.
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