Discussion II about the Suspension List
Quote: OnceDearYou always did like prisoners dilemma.
Good point!
Quote: WizardI hope to share a cell with the unibomber. We could torture each other with math puzzles all day.
And backgammon!
Quote: WizardPer the new lower standard of evidence required to nuke members for multiple accounts, LayMeDown has been nuked based on convincing evidence that he is formally banned member varmenti.
The first 9 I roll tonight will be in his honor.
Quote: WizardI hope to share a cell with the unibomber.
I think you've misunderstood something. The unibomber wasn't a bomber that delivered his device by uni-cycle.
Quote: OnceDearI think you've misunderstood something. The unibomber wasn't a bomber that delivered his device by uni-cycle.
Now you tell me. I already put in my cellmate request form with the Homeland Security.
Quote: OnceDearI think you've misunderstood something. The unibomber wasn't a bomber that delivered his device by uni-cycle.
You don't know that..
True. I only have his word for it, but I was his fiance for three years.Quote: EvenBobYou don't know that..
I never caught him playing around with one wheeled goods.
Mind you I always suspected that he might suspect that I wasn't being completely honest with him.
Quote: OnceDearTrue. I only have his word for it, but I was his fiance for three years.
I never caught him playing around with one wheeled goods.
Mind you I always suspected that he might suspect that I wasn't being completely honest with him.
This thread has taken an unexpected turn. ;)
Quote: EvenBobYou don't know that..
Bob as always takes this in another direction.
Does anyone know if Buzz is still alive? If so the old guy with good points is getting soft in his old age.
Time for another sock my old friend.
Or amnesty for one of the people who made this forum great, long before the other guy.
Quote: BozBob as always takes this in another direction.
Does anyone know if Buzz is still alive? If so the old guy with good points is getting soft in his old age.
Time for another sock my old friend.
Or amnesty for one of the people who made this forum great, long before the other guy.
He socked us maybe 2 weeks ago, maybe less. He seems to be ok.
Quote: WizardPer the new lower standard of evidence required to nuke members for multiple accounts, LayMeDown has been nuked based on convincing evidence that he is formally banned member varmenti.
If that is indeed true I feel badly for him. Gambling addiction is no laughing matter and his willingness to believe that he can overcome odds at low HE games like bac and craps is a harbinger of bad times ahead. Likely he went through bad times at fallsview a few years ago too when his bacarrat strategy got the best of him.
I am all fine and good with gambling strategies involving money management and working streaks. But one has to understand the math of the game first.
Likely of course he believes in dice influence. Many people do. Confirmation bias is a very powerful thing and indeed it is possible with a consistent betting strategy to win at craps long term (years of part time play) by just having a positive variance enough to overcome house edge for the length of time you are playing. One sigma might be enough.. I attribute my win-loss at craps to good luck.
But more importantly to those who believe craps is a social game (it is) you develop a decent camaderie with other players if you buy into the superstitions and make it look like you're trying to do something with the dice that "looks" like you know what you are doing, be either setting it, betting at the proper times, avoiding stacks of chips when throwing, etc.
But in my craps career which spanned about 7 years I might have had 2 rolls which stick in my mind. Over seven years and about 1,000 hours of play that might be about right.
Quote: boymimboIf that is indeed true I feel badly for him. Gambling addiction is no laughing matter and his willingness to believe that he can overcome odds at low HE games like bac and craps is a harbinger of bad times ahead.
I agree. I wonder how many people who finally learned the lesson that all betting systems eventually fail then get sucked into the dice influence world. I've never once met a practitioner of said "advantage play," who kept track religiously of every throw to verify a skill at it. No, it is always a vague story like, "I throw a lot of nines."
I've been seeking evidence DI works for over ten years now and still have almost nothing but stories and adjectives, which you can get from any betting system believer too.
Quote: WizardI agree. I wonder how many people who finally learned the lesson that all betting systems eventually fail then get sucked into the dice influence world. I've never once met a practitioner of said "advantage play," who kept track religiously of every throw to verify a skill at it. No, it is always a vague story like, "I throw a lot of nines."
I've been seeking evidence DI works for over ten years now and still have almost nothing but stories and adjectives, which you can get from any betting system believer too.
Id be more inclined to believe in DI, 'IF' there wasnt a back wall that you had to hit and 'IF' the back wall wasnt filled with spikes.
I guarantee that I will have long rolls w/o a 7 with this fool proof method:Quote: WizardI've been seeking evidence DI works for over ten years now and still have almost nothing but stories and adjectives, which you can get from any betting system believer too.
:)
Every single post he made this morning (see below) is a troll of darkoz. Several contained personal insults.
Sentence to be determined.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/gambling-with-an-edge/30538-bob-nersesian-guest-again/12/#post640625
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/gambling-with-an-edge/30538-bob-nersesian-guest-again/12/#post640634
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/92/#post640635
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/92/#post640638
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/gambling-with-an-edge/30538-bob-nersesian-guest-again/12/#post640639
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/92/#post640645
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/gambling-with-an-edge/30538-bob-nersesian-guest-again/13/#post640650
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/92/#post640663
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/93/#post640665
Quote: beachbumbabsHomelessnyc is suspended for trolling.
Every single post he made this morning (see below) is a troll of darkoz. Several contained personal insults.
Sentence to be determined.
When I read into those links I see DarkOz being equally "trolling". Actually, I see 2 people bickering back and forth. I think Homelessnyc was more right than DarkOz. Just my opinion. Maybe the sentence should be lifted or both go into time out.
Quote: MaxPenWhen I read into those links I see DarkOz being equally "trolling". Actually, I see 2 people bickering back and forth. I think Homelessnyc was more right than DarkOz. Just my opinion. Maybe the sentence should be lifted or both go into time out.
Yeesh. Yea we were going back and forth although i tried to be more politic (i even declined calling it trolling to avoid getting suspended)
His attacks are so ridiculous it doesnt phase me. Im for undoing his suspension but ultimately its up to the mods
Quote: MaxPenWhen I read into those links I see DarkOz being equally "trolling". Actually, I see 2 people bickering back and forth. I think Homelessnyc was more right than DarkOz. Just my opinion. Maybe the sentence should be lifted or both go into time out.
You could be right. Each insult was relatively minor, but the totality was too much. Several of the things he said have gotten other people a time-out (the stuff about reading comprehension and education, etc.) That brings up the issue of equitable moderation; if others got suspended for those comments, I can't just ignore these.
It's also true that darkoz was laughing him off, and giving some back, but it was homelessnyc that started it in both threads .
It's also his 4th offense for personal insult, and he was previously Martingaled to 14 days.
So I've asked Wizard to review it before I take further action. For now, he stays in red.
Quote: darkozYeesh. Yea we were going back and forth although i tried to be more politic (i even declined calling it trolling to avoid getting suspended)
His attacks are so ridiculous it doesnt phase me. Im for undoing his suspension but ultimately its up to the mods
Noted, thanks for the comment.
since his last offense.
Quote: WizardI agree. I wonder how many people who finally learned the lesson that all betting systems eventually fail then get sucked into the dice influence world. I've never once met a practitioner of said "advantage play," who kept track religiously of every throw to verify a skill at it. No, it is always a vague story like, "I throw a lot of nines."
I've been seeking evidence DI works for over ten years now and still have almost nothing but stories and adjectives, which you can get from any betting system believer too.
I throw a lot of sevens myself but I don't brag about it. There is never gonna be evidence because no one can prove anything. This is good for us.
Quote: beachbumbabsHomelessnyc is suspended for trolling.
Every single post he made this morning (see below) is a troll of darkoz. Several contained personal insults.
Sentence to be determined.
Fourth ban and fourth example of how disgustingly bias the moderation is here.
It's a shame this mod wants to follow her own rules and not enforce the rules of the site and do it equally. You can have two users do the same thing and only the one who isn't liberal is banned. Plain disgusting.
With that please ban my account.
Quote: HomelessnycFourth ban and fourth example of how disgustingly bias the moderation is here.
It's a shame this mod wants to follow her own rules and not enforce the rules of the site and do it equally. You can have two users do the same thing and only the one who isn't liberal is banned. Plain disgusting.
With that please ban my account.
I don't notice any bias. Unless your definition of bias is having to continually reprimand childish posters.
I'm pretty conservative. Never been suspended by her.
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And IMO these chronic childish little virtual suicide gestures really need to be made less temporary & cheap. Like real consequential statements of actual conscience throughout human history from Saint Agnes to Joan of Arc to Ghandi to Quang Duc & the buddhist monks of Saigon to Neda of Tehran, so unlike these infantile inconsequential tantrums. I suggest the following small rule addendum (call it The Buzzard Prerequisite): No resignation without immolation!
Quote: onenickelmiracleAlmost choked on my ice cream.
You can choke on ice cream? Who knew..
Quote: EvenBobYou can choke on ice cream? Who knew..
I imagine if it goes down the windpipe yeah
Quote: HomelessnycFourth ban and fourth example of how disgustingly bias the moderation is here.
It's a shame this mod wants to follow her own rules and not enforce the rules of the site and do it equally. You can have two users do the same thing and only the one who isn't liberal is banned. Plain disgusting.
With that please ban my account.
Bye
Quote: HomelessnycWith that please ban my account.
Done. This will go down as a permanent resignation, as opposed to indefinite.
Have a good life.
Figure of speech I guess.Quote: EvenBobYou can choke on ice cream? Who knew..
Quote: EvenBobYou can choke on ice cream? Who knew..
I always assumed your inner body heat would just melt it
Quote: michael99000I always assumed your inner body heat would just melt it
I always thought about that with an ice cube. If it gets lodged will it melt or will you die first?
Quote: GWAEI always thought about that with an ice cube. If it gets lodged will it melt or will you die first?
I would say you would die first. IIRC 4 mins with no O2 and it is all over.
Quote: GWAEI always thought about that with an ice cube. If it gets lodged will it melt or will you die first?
The great likelihood is that there would be passages around a lodged ice cube stuck in an airway that you would be able to breath a little around it and not die. No guarantee however.
Quote: SOOPOOThe great likelihood is that there would be passages around a lodged ice cube stuck in an airway that you would be able to breath a little around it and not die. No guarantee however.
It depends on whether the ice cube is simply lodged i. Your throat and melting or went down your airpipe
If its down your airpipe melting water is going into your lungs as you gasp for air. Most likely drowning while you asphyxiate
Quote: darkozIt depends on whether the ice cube is simply lodged i. Your throat and melting or went down your airpipe
If its down your airpipe melting water is going into your lungs as you gasp for air. Most likely drowning while you asphyxiate
I have a feeling soopoo knows all about pulmonary aspiration
Quote: darkozIt depends on whether the ice cube is simply lodged i. Your throat and melting or went down your airpipe
If its down your airpipe melting water is going into your lungs as you gasp for air. Most likely drowning while you asphyxiate
In this made up scenario, the size of an ice cube needed to fully block your trachea, would likely have not nearly enough water to 'drown' you. You would cough for a bit if you weren't dead from asphyxiation, but likely be able to either absorb or clear the water.
I've taken care of patients in pulmonary edema, and they continue to cough up frothy liquid, far more than a single melted ice cube.
Until this thread, I have never heard of someone dying from asphyxia due to an ice cube. I'm sure someone will post a link......
Quote: SOOPOO
Until this thread, I have never heard of someone dying from asphyxia due to an ice cube. I'm sure someone will post a link......
Seems like your body heat would melt it sufficiently fast enough, and the force of a cough would then dislodge it. And generally some water makes things slippery.
Lung Aspiration - Summit Medical GroupQuote: SOOPOOIn this made up scenario, the size of an ice cube needed to fully block your trachea, would likely have not nearly enough water to 'drown' you. You would cough for a bit if you weren't dead from asphyxiation, but likely be able to either absorb or clear the water.
I've taken care of patients in pulmonary edema, and they continue to cough up frothy liquid, far more than a single melted ice cube.
Until this thread, I have never heard of someone dying from asphyxia due to an ice cube. I'm sure someone will post a link......
https://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult.../sha_pulmonary_aspiration/
Breathing a foreign substance into your airways is called lung, or pulmonary, aspiration. The substance could be food, liquid, medicine, mucus, or saliva. Aspiration can cause choking. ... It is coordinated with breathing to prevent anything in your throat from going down into your lungs. A person with dysphagia and constant aspiration, chokes afaik? Maybe the terminology is off a bit, but it seems like choking.
Quote: petroglyphLung Aspiration - Summit Medical Group
https://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult.../sha_pulmonary_aspiration/
Breathing a foreign substance into your airways is called lung, or pulmonary, aspiration. The substance could be food, liquid, medicine, mucus, or saliva. Aspiration can cause choking. ... It is coordinated with breathing to prevent anything in your throat from going down into your lungs. A person with dysphagia and constant aspiration, chokes afaik? Maybe the terminology is off a bit, but it seems like choking.
Choking is when something is physically blocking your airway.
Aspiration is when a liquid or solid enters your lungs through your airway.
Quote: gamerfreakQuote: petroglyphLung Aspiration - Summit Medical Group
https://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult.../sha_pulmonary_aspiration/
Breathing a foreign substance into your airways is called lung, or pulmonary, aspiration. The substance could be food, liquid, medicine, mucus, or saliva. Aspiration can cause choking. ... It is coordinated with breathing to prevent anything in your throat from going down into your lungs. A person with dysphagia and constant aspiration, chokes afaik? Maybe the terminology is off a bit, but it seems like choking.
Choking is when something is physically blocking your airway.
Aspiration is when a liquid or solid enters your lungs through your airway.
I always choke when going for aspiration levels at CET
Quote: gamerfreakQuote: petroglyphLung Aspiration - Summit Medical Group
https://www.summitmedicalgroup.com/library/adult.../sha_pulmonary_aspiration/
Breathing a foreign substance into your airways is called lung, or pulmonary, aspiration. The substance could be food, liquid, medicine, mucus, or saliva. Aspiration can cause choking. ... It is coordinated with breathing to prevent anything in your throat from going down into your lungs. A person with dysphagia and constant aspiration, chokes afaik? Maybe the terminology is off a bit, but it seems like choking.What if someone chokes you to death using the choke hold? I thought choking is when a person couldn't get air?Quote:Choking is when something is physically blocking your airway.
I take it then, that you disagree with the link that says, "Aspiration can cause choking"?Quote:Aspiration is when a liquid or solid enters your lungs through your airway.
What would you call a patient who has severe dysphagia that can't get air because of their own saliva, trapped at the epiglottis, because the nerves to the epiglottis have been burned?
1. Choking
(of a person or animal) have severe difficulty in breathing because of a constricted or obstructed throat or a lack of air.
"Willie choked on a mouthful of soda"
synonyms: gag, retch, cough, fight for breath
"Christopher started to choke"
airway chokes would be strangling, I think.
ep·i·glot·tis
noun
a flap of cartilage at the root of the tongue, which is depressed during swallowing to cover the opening of the windpipe.
And it has nothing to do with his medical degree.Quote: gamerfreakI have a feeling soopoo knows all about pulmonary aspiration
Romes is in red?Quote: WizardThe existing suspension list exceeded the maximum length for a post so I split off suspensions from 2014, 2015, and 2016 into this archive #2.
anxiously awaiting the suspension list update to see what he did
Quote: 100xOddsRomes is in red?Quote: WizardThe existing suspension list exceeded the maximum length for a post so I split off suspensions from 2014, 2015, and 2016 into this archive #2.
anxiously awaiting the suspension list update
I think it was because he said AZDuffman had a little brain in the Trump thread.
Quote: gamerfreakQuote: 100xOddsRomes is in red?Quote: WizardThe existing suspension list exceeded the maximum length for a post so I split off suspensions from 2014, 2015, and 2016 into this archive #2.
anxiously awaiting the suspension list update
I think it was because he said AZDuffman had a little brain in the Trump thread.
I thought the political threads had more leniency since most debates turn bad? I have the thread blocked so I have no idea what was actually said.
