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speedycrap
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:32:00 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

The recent threads are being taken over by dice setting crap. This forum is about math and gambling not crazy systems and mind control of dice lol. I personally think it’s time for the looney tunes to stop playing on Saturday mornings.

I do not mind new ideas. Any ideas is ok. Remember once we all believed the world was FLAT. New ideas pop up everyday. Sometimes it might not be what we want to hear. Dice control without any credible proof and backing off with a challenge is a bit fishy. But he is not asking for money or trying to sell snake oil. I will just look at it at a funny joke.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:38:22 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

I do not mind new ideas. Any ideas is ok. Remember once we all believed the world was FLAT. New ideas pop up everyday. Sometimes it might not be what we want to hear. Dice control without any credible proof and backing off with a challenge is a bit fishy. But he is not asking for money or trying to sell snake oil. I will just look at it at a funny joke.


I have no problem with it being there but why is he starting 7 different threads to discuss the same garbage. Keep it to one thread. Gotta cage the crazy, keep it organized.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:39:58 AM permalink
Then consolidate them. Just that simple.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:42:36 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

Then consolidate them. Just that simple.


So mods have to work overtime to clean up all the garbage he is spewing?

I literally logged on one day to every single 'recent thread' being posts pretty much saying the same thing over and over about BS craps systems.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:45:52 AM permalink
Yes, work and work. Maybe give him a pad in the back and some friendly advice. "Please spill your passion in one thread."
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:52:55 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Interesting question. I would nuke him now. He is adding absolutely nothing. He has been given quite a bit of leeway but that should end. If I was Mike I would invoke the nuclear option for the good of the forum. There are now around 5 useless threads all saying the same thing.



There is something odd about LayMeDown, for sure, but what? He's not breaking any rules is he?

He burst onto this forum like 'The Big Bang' in March and has posted prolifically about his craps prowess. He similarly burst onto crapsforum.com as newbie craps expert 'BuckShot' in February and is posting prolifically almost the same stuff there, again like he just popped into the universe.

Can anyone see what he is up to? Is he for real? If not, what's his mischievous plan?

The nearest thing he's done to an offense here would seem to be the inflamatory poke at PokerGrinder, where he said:-
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iF YOU CAN'T ANSWER THEN YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A FRAUD WHO JUST LIKES TO TROLL FORUMS.



Amusingly, he implies that the membership here is trying to rob him by challenging him to put his money where his mouth is.

He's certainly a character: Not 'Dos Equous - the Most Interesting Man In The World' though.

I suppose anyone that creates content for the site, has value to the site.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:56:03 AM permalink
I actually don’t think he has an agenda at all. I think he ACTUALLY thinks he can control the dice.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:58:45 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I actually don’t think he has an agenda at all. I think he ACTUALLY thinks he can control the dice.

I mostly agree. But still, I wonder what sprung him into prolific mode after 28 years playing craps? Retirement? A big win? Newly discovered the internet?
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:14:33 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Should Laymedown be nuked?

I'm convinced he trolled the board on the "I can roll lots of nines" thread.

Such a craps tease.

I think this post might seal the deal.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:18:13 AM permalink
Besides all the new threads and various BS. My main problem is that he is claiming he will make the bets if you show up in person. I have a feeling someone may wast their time and money making arrangements for a meet up and bet that never happens.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:25:20 AM permalink
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...on meds, vodka, and Pepto. I noticed you mentioned huffing paint as well.

Pepto?

Apparently I'm out of touch with some of the finer points of more thoroughly modern type degeneracy, as usual. Assorted flavors of meds, vodka, even paint... I get those. Even back in the day in the Hunter S. Thompson & co. era that was all part of the drill. Or so I've been told, by some who insist they actually remember parts of what they did in the 70s. But, what's with Pepto? Talking about the pink upset tummy stuff? Or something else?
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:42:34 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Pepto?

Apparently I'm out of touch with some of the finer points of more thoroughly modern type degeneracy, as usual. Assorted flavors of meds, vodka, even paint... I get those. Even back in the day in the Hunter S. Thompson & co. era that was all part of the drill. Or so I've been told, by some who insist they actually remember parts of what they did in the 70s. But, what's with Pepto? Talking about the pink upset tummy stuff? Or something else?

Yes, good old pink Pepto Bismol. I have no idea why it was tossed in the mix.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:47:57 AM permalink
Did Ontariodealer said he knew LMD? So LMD is real.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:49:30 AM permalink
Who are the top 10 trolls here ever? I can't remember them all, my favorite was the guy before Trump was elected.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:56:03 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yes, good old pink Pepto Bismol. I have no idea why it was tossed in the mix.


Maybe a reference to the film Cape Fear?

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April 10th, 2018 at 12:15:25 PM permalink
Way, way back, while doing a barracks inspection, I came across a cafeteria tray that had pink stuff on it. The trooper explained he had accidently spilled some pepto.
I didn't think anything of it, but about a year later came across the same thing somewhere else. I mentioned it to an NCO and he told me if you pour it out of the bottle and let it sit for a few days, it hardens. Then you can crush it up and snort it.
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April 10th, 2018 at 12:20:06 PM permalink
I see LayMedown just went red. I wonder if that was for Personal insult to Pokergrinder, or for being Varmenti?
Anyone other than OntarioDealer taking bets on that latter part of the question?
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:16:57 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

I see LayMedown just went red. I wonder if that was for Personal insult to Pokergrinder, or for being Varmenti?
Anyone other than OntarioDealer taking bets on that latter part of the question?



I'm thinking for the personal insult, but he could very well be Varmenti, the modus operandi seems the same. OntarioDealer seems to have some info as he has gone quiet after his last, but telling, post about LMD.
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:20:43 PM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

I'm thinking for the personal insult, but he could very well be Varmenti, the modus operandi seems the same. OntarioDealer seems to have some info as he has gone quiet after his last, but telling, post about LMD.



OntarioDealer may feel now that he knows who LMD is, and LMD has actually gambled at a table which OntarioDealer was working at, that he should not be involved in any "social media" actions involving LMD. I have no inside knowledge, that's just my guess.
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:28:20 PM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

I'm thinking for the personal insult, but he could very well be Varmenti, the modus operandi seems the same. OntarioDealer seems to have some info as he has gone quiet after his last, but telling, post about LMD.



Boy I hope not. That is going to make my hash tag a tough sell.
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

OntarioDealer may feel now that he knows who LMD is, and LMD has actually gambled at a table which OntarioDealer was working at, that he should not be involved in any "social media" actions involving LMD. I have no inside knowledge, that's just my guess.



That's a perfectly reasonable take on the situation. It isn't as sexy as some other theories though ;-)
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:37:55 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Boy I hope not. That is going to make my hash tag a tough sell.



Your hash tag has ALWAYS been a tough sell.

Don't know if it's varmenti or not. Very strong suspicion it is, but no definitive proof. Checking into it.

I think that OntarioDealer is in no position to Id anybody . His employer might frown on it. So not asking him.

Meanwhile, he gets 3 days for the insult.
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:52:29 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Your hash tag has ALWAYS been a tough sell.

Don't know if it's varmenti or not. Very strong suspicion it is, but no definitive proof. Checking into it.

I think that OntarioDealer is in no position to Id anybody . His employer might frown on it. So not asking him.

Meanwhile, he gets 3 days for the insult.



Lol well yeah I guess.

Btw, I know where he will be this week. We can send someone to ask him if he is indeed led. Kidding not kidding
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April 10th, 2018 at 1:53:25 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Your hash tag has ALWAYS been a tough sell.

Don't know if it's varmenti or not. Very strong suspicion it is, but no definitive proof. Checking into it.

I think that OntarioDealer is in no position to Id anybody . His employer might frown on it. So not asking him.

Meanwhile, he gets 3 days for the insult.



Lol well yeah I guess.

Btw, I know where he will be this week. We can send someone to ask him if he is indeed led. Kidding not kidding

ETA although I do know where he will be I am not going to provide that info to anyone so dont ask.
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April 10th, 2018 at 4:12:16 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Your hash tag has ALWAYS been a tough sell.

Don't know if it's varmenti or not. Very strong suspicion it is, but no definitive proof. Checking into it.

I think that OntarioDealer is in no position to Id anybody . His employer might frown on it. So not asking him.

Meanwhile, he gets 3 days for the insult.


I thought the dupe ID rule or classification was changed from basically “certainty” to “strong strong suspicion”.

Let’s say theoretically a member was a complete troll, didn’t add anything to the forum, and you had a very strong suspicion he was Varmenti, would you nuke him? That was a rhetorical question.
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April 10th, 2018 at 5:15:15 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I thought the dupe ID rule or classification was changed from basically “certainty” to “strong strong suspicion”.

Let’s say theoretically a member was a complete troll, didn’t add anything to the forum, and you had a very strong suspicion he was Varmenti, would you nuke him? That was a rhetorical question.



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Checking into it

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April 10th, 2018 at 5:17:38 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I thought the dupe ID rule or classification was changed from basically “certainty” to “strong strong suspicion”.



The new standard is a "reasonable suspicion."
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April 10th, 2018 at 5:26:12 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

OntarioDealer may feel now that he knows who LMD is, and LMD has actually gambled at a table which OntarioDealer was working at, that he should not be involved in any "social media" actions involving LMD. I have no inside knowledge, that's just my guess.




I would think that's correct. It's why I tried to get my username changed (messed up when making the acct) but I have been denied by admins here..so I kinda gotta watch what I say and not mention my work in a negative light.
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April 10th, 2018 at 10:31:56 PM permalink
Quote: GlenG

I would think that's correct. It's why I tried to get my username changed (messed up when making the acct) but I have been denied by admins here..so I kinda gotta watch what I say and not mention my work in a negative light.



So the readers suffer because you aren't able to fix a newbie error. This seems like another rule that could use a re-examination. Surely, it could be adjusted a bit.
I am in the same boat. A name I choose ten years ago in a different place and world.
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April 10th, 2018 at 11:19:29 PM permalink
GWAE I’m finally going to ask, who’s Varmenti?
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April 11th, 2018 at 12:31:04 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

So the readers suffer because you aren't able to fix a newbie error. This seems like another rule that could use a re-examination. Surely, it could be adjusted a bit.
I am in the same boat. A name I choose ten years ago in a different place and world.



I mean even if I were granted a name change doesn't mean I'm gonna start bashing my workplace lol
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April 11th, 2018 at 12:37:40 AM permalink
Quote: GlenG

I mean even if I were granted a name change doesn't mean I'm gonna start bashing my workplace lol



Wink wink Nudge nudge
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April 11th, 2018 at 3:19:37 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

GWAE I’m finally going to ask, who’s Varmenti?

I'm not GWAE, but I play him on tv. If you have a quiet day and are looking for something to do, search the name + baccarat + 2014 (I think it started that year) here and read the threads.
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April 11th, 2018 at 6:24:08 AM permalink
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If you have a quiet day and are looking for something to do, search the name + baccarat + 2014 (I think it started that year) here and read the threads.


I looked back to 2013. He had discovered a lucky betting progression. I think the innovative feature was the partner betting. If his system dictated a $25 banker bet, he would bet $50 on banker alongside a partner with $25 on player.

I don't understand why.
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April 11th, 2018 at 6:32:03 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm not GWAE, but I play him on tv. If you have a quiet day and are looking for something to do, search the name + baccarat + 2014 (I think it started that year) here and read the threads.


I read about 12 pages... now my head hurts lol

Varmenti reminds me of someone?? But who?
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April 11th, 2018 at 8:51:18 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I read about 12 pages... now my head hurts lol

Varmenti reminds me of someone?? But who?



Just another broke system player who believed they found the magic formula. They come and they go, but it’s always the same. They win a little, which is to be expected, then they brag about it. Then they get pissed when other try to explain the facts. Next comes suspension or nuking, and later they go broke with their winning system.

The years and even the game changes, but they all end up the same.
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April 11th, 2018 at 8:58:40 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I read about 12 pages... now my head hurts lol

Varmenti reminds me of someone?? But who?



Haha yeah he was fun. For a troll anyways. He not only had his partner bac which was basically Marty both sides of bac but he also claimed to have a bet with someone that he could get 500 responses on a troll thread. It would die down and he would create a sock to get it going again.
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April 11th, 2018 at 10:34:48 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I read about 12 pages... now my head hurts lol

Varmenti reminds me of someone?? But who?


Maybe that one guy baccaratfrom1979 (or something like that).
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April 11th, 2018 at 10:37:20 AM permalink
Varmenti is posting a bunch of craps garbage now.
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:43:28 AM permalink
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Varmenti is posting a bunch of craps garbage now.



Really? On what site? Is it similar to what any recent poster on our site has posted?
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:56:16 AM permalink
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April 12th, 2018 at 9:54:22 AM permalink
Per the new lower standard of evidence required to nuke members for multiple accounts, LayMeDown has been nuked based on convincing evidence that he is formally banned member varmenti.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:14:30 AM permalink
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:37:15 AM permalink
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I pray my soul the Wizard to keep



I've been known to buy souls for $10.
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April 12th, 2018 at 10:43:44 AM permalink
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I've been known to buy souls for $10.

Wicked! You can have my conscience for £4.50
$;o)
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April 12th, 2018 at 11:49:45 AM permalink
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I've been known to buy souls for $10.




You overpaid.
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April 12th, 2018 at 12:05:59 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I've been known to buy souls for $10.



A soul brother

You got change of a $20
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April 12th, 2018 at 1:20:38 PM permalink
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Per the new lower standard of evidence required to nuke members for multiple accounts, LayMeDown has been nuked based on convincing evidence that he is formally banned member varmenti.


He's now supposedly reporting you and this site to homeland security.

https://youtu.be/Y8GGpYFmkYI
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April 12th, 2018 at 1:53:42 PM permalink
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He's now supposedly reporting you and this site to homeland security.



I hope to share a cell with the unibomber. We could torture each other with math puzzles all day.
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April 12th, 2018 at 2:02:07 PM permalink
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I hope to share a cell with the unibomber. We could torture each other with math puzzles all day.

You always did like prisoners dilemma.
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