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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:08:33 AM permalink
I've taken quite a beating for asking for donations and then turning around and selling the sites. There is some validity to the criticism. I will say in my defense that the decision to sell the sites wasn't made until early September and I immediately stopped accepting donations as soon as I knew this was a distinct possibility.

Nevertheless, I have decided to either return or give away to charity ALL donations made at any point.

I have just returned 14 donations totaling $650 made via Paypal in the last 60 days, the period for which Paypal allows this option. However, there are still $3,700 in donations made to that Paypal account before that date.

There may have been one or two donations made to my personal Paypal account, because Paypal was rejecting some donation attempts at first to my Wizard account. I checked the comments of all of them and none of them explicitly said it was for a direct donation. Some were for bets on I won the last two McNugget challenges. I will be inquiring about a couple that were from forum members where the reason wasn't stated in the comments.

Finally, some were sent my mail to my PO box. I estimate about $500 were received that way.

At this point I'm going to give anybody who made a donation that wasn't already refunded the opportunity to contact me for a refund.

I'll allow another week for that and then I will be donating all unclaimed donations to Three Square, which is a Las Vegas food bank.

I'd like to request that this thread stay on the topic of just donations. General Wizard bashing posts should be put in the Sale of wizard of odds/vegas websites thread.
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Mosca
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:19:30 AM permalink
You can refund mine. Should I PM you my address?
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:31:17 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

You can refund mine. Should I PM you my address?



Please do, and remind me the amount.
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Beethoven9th
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:45:30 AM permalink
This is one of the classiest gestures I've ever seen from a forum owner. (And I can't believe how many members have been so critical over an issue that shouldn't even be an issue at all)
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Boz
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:50:46 AM permalink
Not to cause you more work, but I would purfur (Get it?) the $100 I donated went to this cat charity in Vegas on Flamingo.

http://www.allfurloveanimalsociety.org/

Call me hard, but I am not a huge fan of donations to humans compared to animals.

If this is too much to do, I will take my donation back and send it myself to them. No problem either way.

All of that said, I don't feel you owe me or anyone their money back and you have always been 100% honest. no one should doubt your intentions and the situation you were in at that time. It took a lot for you to ask for money and I am sure your pride was hurt.

Remember good things happen to good people and you earned everything you made from this sale. I hope you don't let the negatives bother you. And if the sites change, so be it. The new owners paid good money and it is their right to do as they please.
MrV
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:56:24 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

I can't believe how many members have been so critical over an issue that shouldn't even be an issue at all.



Not just "members" think it is an issue.

The Wiz states: "I've taken quite a beating for asking for donations and then turning around and selling the sites. There is some validity to the criticism."

I applaud his solution to the problem.
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odiousgambit
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:11:55 AM permalink
I also applaud, just donate mine, thanks
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:27:22 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

... to Three Square, which is a Las Vegas good bank.


I do hope that's a typo. FOOD bank, right?

Personally, I gotta believe that you putting out the tin cup was a very painful thing for you to do. Painful enough that you should be entitled to keep the money to help heal those wounds as well as the new wounds you have recently received because of it.

Or think of it another way: you've got a bank of hungry mouths at home to feed.


Or give it to Three Square. That's a downright nice way to, well, tell a few crybabies to STFU.
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Mosca
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:30:49 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: Wizard

... to Three Square, which is a Las Vegas good bank.


I do hope that's a typo. FOOD bank, right?

Personally, I gotta believe that you putting out the tin cup was a very painful thing for you to do. Painful enough that you should be entitled to keep the money to help heal those wounds as well as the new wounds you have recently received because of it.

Or think of it another way: you've got a bank of hungry mouths at home to feed.


Or give it to Three Square. That's a downright nice way to, well, tell a few crybabies to STFU.



I gave freely, and I accept the return freely. Wizard has more money than I do.
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odiousgambit
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:37:11 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

STFU.



purportedly some guys gave quite a bit ... myself not included

for those guys, that really needs to be returned
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