Sale of wizard of odds/vegas websites
Quote: AZDuffmanProbably had to do with currency controls. Yugoslavia was notorious for not letting you get money out of the country, I remember a story where a car magazine went to see the home of the Yugo and they said they could not trade the currency (Zoltys? Sorry if I have that wrong, Zuga) back to western currency.
As a side note, while Yugoslavia was communist it was *not* "behind the Iron Curtain" and not directly allied with the USSR. Only European nation to tell Stalin to take a hike but stay communist.
Not trying to steal any thunder, Zuga, just can't believe the details I remember in life.
The currency used was the Yugoslavian dinar ( We now have the Serbian dinar or RSD ).
You are right we told Stalin off, well the late president Tito did ( I believe that was in 1948 ).
Our Gov system was something between the communism and socialism , meaning equal rights for everyone, free schooling system and free medical care. The "open market" wasnt entirely open, but then again it was not anything like in the USSR . Kinda semi-capitalism market we had.
We were pretty wealthy and progressive country back then ( even had our own space program research at one point ), stuck in between the East and the West , and no wonder the country was divided during the bloody civil war in the 90s.
Quote: odiousgambitJokes about assassinating Archdukes will lead to immediate suspension. Buzzard, are you listening?
Not really lol...Im a history buff so open to debate anything history related
But I bet you think the Serbs are to be blamed for the WWI coz of the assassination? ( hope not for ur own sake lol j/k )
Quote: BuzzardWhen did saying that a woman is beautiful become disrespectful ?
We both know and everyone else here, that was not what you were saying or trying to do with your posts. One thing is to make a joke, have a stab at the new management if you will, but you are really pushing it.
However I aint going to get involved in this discussion with you.
thx for ur co-operation.
Zuga
Quote: BuzzardJosip Broz was almost universally hailed as the last great World War II leader and the first communist to successfully challenge Stalin !
Yes you are right.. He was something else aight lol He was indeed the best thing our former country had, and after his death in 1980 things slowly started to fall apart... which unfortunately led to the civil war that started in 92.
Quote: ZugaWe both know and everyone else here, that was not what you were saying or trying to do with your posts. One thing is to make a joke, have a stab at the new management if you will, but you are really pushing it.
However I aint going to get involved in this discussion with you.
thx for ur co-operation.
Zuga
And I respectfully hope you will keep your word !
" However I aint going to get involved in this discussion with you. "
Quote: BuzzardAnd I respectfully hope you will keep your word !
As much as I hope to see you honor my request and refrain from further stabs at the ppl you do not know and that are part of my team.
cheers
Zuga
I will define abide by your wishes until I do know them. I will contain my comments for now to those members I do know.
Quote: ZugaBut I bet you think the Serbs are to be blamed for the WWI coz of the assassination?
We were taught in school that the assassination was sort of a random trigger; Serbs were not pointed to as villainous.
In the '90s war, however, the same can not be said. The Clinton administration took sides. Nato was on board, there was a bombing campaign. Most people don't know or took much note that there were dogfights too. I'm not sure how they teach that in school now. They spend a lot of time on how to recycle, etc.
Quote: Buzzard
I will define abide by your wishes until I do know them. I will contain my comments for now to those members I do know.
heheh, you are relentless one ... Im sure you can go all day/night like this, and I certainly can go back and forth as well .. But then again this is exactly what you want.
So Ill end this by saying please be respectful and stop trolling.
I hope I made myself clear
thx
Zuga
Quote: odiousgambitWe were taught in school that the assassination was sort of a random trigger; Serbs were not pointed to as villainous.
In the '90s war, however, the same can not be said. The Clinton administration took sides. Nato was on board, there was a bombing campaign. Most people don't know or took much note that there were dogfights too. I'm not sure how they teach that in school now. They spend a lot of time on how to recycle, etc.
There are some attempts to revise the history of WWI, in terms of what actually caused it referring to the assassination as the actual cause. This is what some historians from the UK and western Europe trying to plug for, also claiming it was a terrorist attack.
The thing is the WWI would of happened with or without that assassination... Germany and Austro-Hungaria ) only waited for something to trigger the war campaign..
As far as the 90s war.. that is something I wish it never happened as it broke our country to pieces and too many ppl died... but thats for some other discussion
Quote: Zugaheheh, you are relentless one ... Im sure you can go all day/night like this, and I certainly can go back and forth as well .. But then again this is exactly what you want.
So Ill end this by saying please be respectful and stop trolling.
I hope I made myself clear
thx
Zuga
I can not remember the last time I heard anyone mention Yuogslovakia. I wonder how many other countries have been changed and forgotten.
Question for you Mr. Zuga. Being from Serbia, how do you write English so well. Are you brought up with it and taught it at an early age. If you didn't tell me you were from Serbia I would have assumed you were American.
Quote: ZugaAs far as the 90s war.. that is something I wish it never happened as it broke our country to pieces
In the 90's 175,000 Bosnian refugee's were
shipped to the US to live. Thousands ended
up in the W MI area and I got to know a few
of them. Mostly younger non practicing Muslim
men with huge chips on their shoulders. Nice
guys once you got past all the macho posturing,
but it took time. Half a dozen of them worked
at the local buffet where we went several
times a week. They became friends eventually,
and had great senses of humor about their
religion and being non Americans.
A lot of Bosnian women still work at the local
Walmart. Taken as a whole, they are not friendly
like the Bosnian men. They seem to be always
in a bad mood and unhappy. Maybe it's because
the young Bosnian men seemed to prefer dating
young American girls and not them. Who knows.
Quote: GWAEI can not remember the last time I heard anyone mention Yuogslovakia. I wonder how many other countries have been changed and forgotten.
You will allow me to correct you on this one. It was Yugoslavia. There used to be another country called Czechoslovakia, which also broke apart to Czech Republic and Slovakia. And yes too many countries been changed or vanished and now long forgotten..
Quote: GWAE
Question for you Mr. Zuga. Being from Serbia, how do you write English so well. Are you brought up with it and taught it at an early age. If you didn't tell me you were from Serbia I would have assumed you were American.
Thank you for the compliment :) But you would be surprised as my accent is a mix of Aussie and British English. I was told that by Americans actually.
And to answer your question, we start learning English language at the age of 9 or 10 ( in elementary school ). And then 4 more years in high school.
We have mandatory 2 foreign languages throughout the elementary and highschool. English is always the 1st foreign language and then its either French, German or Russian ( depending on the school itself ).
I also had Latin language for 2 yrs in high school.
However I was really bad in English back then ( always had D ) and not to mention French ( which I cant speak at all ). Only when I went to Uni, at the age of 18 is when I got interested in English and when I started learning it on my own.
And now after 7 years of being in this industry is what made me master the language, esp given the fact that LCB is predominately targeting English speaking markets.
Quote: EvenBobIn the 90's 175,000 Bosnian refugee's were
shipped to the US to live. Thousands ended
up in the W MI area and I got to know a few
of them. Mostly younger non practicing Muslim
men with huge chips on their shoulders. Nice
guys once you got past all the macho posturing,
but it took time. Half a dozen of them worked
at the local buffet where we went several
times a week. They became friends eventually,
and had great senses of humor about their
religion and being non Americans.
A lot of Bosnian women still work at the local
Walmart. Taken as a whole, they are not friendly
like the Bosnian men. They seem to be always
in a bad mood and unhappy. Maybe it's because
the young Bosnian men seemed to prefer dating
young American girls and not them. Who knows.
Yes indeed too many ppl was forced to leave their homes on every side, and even more left after the war in search for a better life. And they are still leaving... and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Croats, Bosnians that emigrated in the last 25 years to the USA, Australia, Scandinavian countries, Germany, Switzerland etc ...
Actually there is a huge Serbian community in Chicago, IL. That city is what we Serbs like to call the biggest Serbian city after Belgrade.
Quote: ZugaYes indeed too many ppl was forced to leave their homes on every side, and even more left after the war in search for a better life. And they are still leaving... and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Croats, Bosnians that emigrated in the last 25 years to the USA, Australia, Scandinavian countries, Germany, Switzerland etc ...
One can only hope they are fitting in and acclimatizing better than the Russians have.
We have a lot of Russians here now, and for the most part the men cling to the old ways, are resentful, churlish, and are widely reputed as inveterate liars.
The women have done much better.
Quote: Zugaheheh, you are relentless one ... Im sure you can go all day/night like this, and I certainly can go back and forth as well .. But then again this is exactly what you want.
So Ill end this by saying please be respectful and stop trolling.
I hope I made myself clear
thx
Zuga
I have always appreciated when given good advice. One might question why the new owner spends so much time on this site.
But Not I. I will leave that analysis to the students of SIGMOND FREUD.
Anything that I might post could be construed as an E ducated G uess O nly !
Thank you again for reminding me of the forum's boundaries.. Respectfully and forever your loyal subject, BUZZARD
Quote: Zcore13Are you serious? You think the new owners, who's main business relates to online casinos, are going to use the content of the posts here for anything?
Absolutely not.
Also, the author of a post on a public forum does not own the post.
Not true, if it's copyrighted. Copyright Sonuvabish (pseudonym).
If that were the case I could sue anytime someone quoted my text in another post.
Not successfully, you have no damages. Copyright Sonuvabish (pseudonym).
I'm guessing you are a previous member here, as a person with less than 10 posts wouldn't care unless they were just trying to stir up trouble. Everyone needs to get a grip on themselves. I promise you, you are in more danger every day of your life to have personal information exposed outside of this forum than you are with any infor.nation that can be scrounged up here.
Agreed. Like someone is going spend millions of dollars to catch half a dozen card counters, since it is so hard to detect card counters in real life.
ZCore13
Quote: Zugahaha way cool, was it the smoked ham, and do you remember its name by any chance?
I don't exactly but it was not smoked ham. They also sold "Pork Shoulder" which was cheaper and more like Spam but the ham was "Zagbred" or something like that. Does that make any sense?
Quote: SonuvabishI have been on hiatus. Seeing that my old friend Axiom resigned, and the Wizard is an overnight millionaire (who declined to renew the betting system challenge, I asked if he would accept my challenge), I am prompted to add some thoughts before I am inevitably banned for some vague reason.
I'm glad to see you're back. I don't know for what vague reason you're expecting to be banned. The rules haven't changed. You survived so far. :)
Quote: IbeatyouracesThere are a lot of them on this side of the state too.
The property owner next to me is from the former Yugo republics as well. He will not sell me a property worth $70K on the books for $150K because he knows it is worth more to me for parking and future expansion. He also hates Jews and is not afraid to state it every way. He thinks all the Jews stayed home on 9-11-2001 because they were told something in advance and believes it. I don't. I think evil is everywhere and just looking for a chance.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/israel/were-4000-jews-told-to-stay-home-on-911.htm
He also might not be Alone based on the actions others from Belgrade at a recent soccer game
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/09/19/4163564/uefa-looks-into-anti-semitic-banner.html
None of this has anything to do with the new owners of this site, but shows hatred and racism is everywhere and not just in the NFL as liberals, womens groups and the Huffington Post would lead anyone to believe.
But as for me, I like to believe everyone is decent....until given a chance to make a dollar. Then all common decency is checked at the door and we justify everything we do.
Quote: ZugaWhen you post on a public forum then you agree it will become the "public property" but also part of that forum. It is here for everyone to see it and it is daily being crawled by search engine spiders.
Everything you post at non private forums is now in the cyber space for everyone to see it , or even reference to it and / or quote it.
I am of the opinion that if a post has minimal substance and originality, copyright protection is vested, and it can be registered. That natural anticipatory consequences of posting on a forum are mainly in line with what you mention; you would expect that others see it, you expect to be quoted, and these natural consequences of posting are not actionable. But if you take my substantial, original quote and it is the basis for a chart topping song you write, I am going to have a strong case. Therefore, your 'public property' statement is inaccurate, although it might be practical enough for the laymen and for 99.99% of all posts. Do you disagree?
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm glad to see you're back. I don't know for what vague reason you're expecting to be banned. The rules haven't changed. You survived so far. :)
I was suspended for my first time (enhanced penalty) for telling someone I don't like them. Then I was 'lucky' not to be suspended when my privacy was breached. I do not plan on posting often. Axiom was like 33% of the posters I found useful, making up about 80% of the actual posts. And comic relief, like Larry, is quickly banned.
Quote: SonuvabishI was suspended for my first time (enhanced penalty) for telling someone I don't like them. Then I was 'lucky' not to be suspended when my privacy was breached. I do not plan on posting often. Axiom was like 33% of the posters I found useful, making up about 80% of the actual posts. And comic relief, like Larry, is quickly banned.
larry is far from comic relief. He was basically a useless piece of crap that wasted our times with his nonsensical posts.
Quote: MrV
LOL. My Shrine. Courtesy of Johno/Carlo Drawdown the Clown. My biggest fan and closet worshipper.
Quote: DMSCRLOL. Ahahahaha. You can always hang out with MrV.
So AoS is gone for good? And his last post
was about me? The stalking is over, the
following me around and commenting on
so many of my posts is done? Obsessions
are funny, unless you're the victim of one.
Quote: EvenBobSo AoS is gone for good? And his last post
was about me? The stalking is over, the
following me around and commenting on
so many of my posts is done? Obsessions
are funny, unless you're the victim of one.
Well it is not an Egalite/evoque/Rolex-Watch etc. kind of ban. Axiom left by his own volition. So if he calms down and begs for mercy and forgiveness he will be welcome back. With open arms and a green chippie.
Also did Egalite/Johno let you back into his very informative top secret board yet? Ha ha ha.
Looks like Mike got the last laugh all the way to the bank. Meanwhile Larry obsesses over the Wizard.Quote: MrVHe's still following the board.
As is another nuked former member.
Larry " See, I'm right, I'm right". OH Sh*T, I'm right, I did participate in making Mike a millionaire.
Are you in charge of what's needed to come back? I hope you didn't want him back, if you did, that was not the best thing to say.Quote: DMSCRSo if he calms down and begs for mercy and forgiveness he will be welcome back.
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Quote: AxelWolfAre you in charge of what's needed to come back? I hope you didn't want him back, if you did, that was not the best thing to say.
Him back or not my bank account is still the same! I just want to see him see the error of his ways and kneel before our new master.
Quote: Nareed (way back on page 8)... What about the articles published here, including the various hotel reviews? Mike paid for first run rights, sure. They can stay published here until the Big Rip, no problem. But I don't think they can be re-published elsewhere without permission.
Folks got PAID for articles/reviews???? During the preliminary draft stage, Mike had offered an official WoV shirt for my review of the Cosmopolitan and said he would deliver it at the Spring Fling. Then his unfortunate family issues arose, and we didn't get to see each other in May. So my review article turned out to be another no-charge contribution to improve the site. I thought it was a decent article, but nowhere near good enough to have helped with the selling price. It didn't even include any math analyses!
Quote: djatcCan we unban varmenti for a systems player he kept me entertained the most.
Varmenti is busy at the moment he is standing in line waiting for the iPhone 7.
Quote: djatcAs a matter of fact can we unban everyone so they can be banned again.
Only online can you kill someone bring them back to life and kill him/her all over again. LOL.
Sorry to hear that I won't get into details but I have a feeling his is in better shape than yours.Quote: DMSCRHim back or not my bank account is still the same.
I doubt he will come back.
At least not as himself obnoxiousofchoice ( sorry AX I couldn't resist )
Quote: DocFolks got PAID for articles/reviews???? During the preliminary draft stage, Mike had offered an official WoV shirt for my review of the Cosmopolitan and said he would deliver it at the Spring Fling. Then his unfortunate family issues arose, and we didn't get to see each other in May. So my review article turned out to be another no-charge contribution to improve the site. I thought it was a decent article, but nowhere near good enough to have helped with the selling price. It didn't even include any math analyses!
I am first and foremost a man of my word. That doesn't mean I don't forget anything, but I would be happy to pay you for whatever I promised for that review. I'm not sure I have any new WoO shirts left, but we'll work something out. I do appreciate you not hounding me for payment right after my dad died.
What the hell, I never got offered a shirt. I'm out of here.Quote: WizardQuote: DocFolks got PAID for articles/reviews???? During the preliminary draft stage, Mike had offered an official WoV shirt for my review of the Cosmopolitan and said he would deliver it at the Spring Fling. Then his unfortunate family issues arose, and we didn't get to see each other in May. So my review article turned out to be another no-charge contribution to improve the site. I thought it was a decent article, but nowhere near good enough to have helped with the selling price. It didn't even include any math analyses!
I am first and foremost a man of my word. That doesn't mean I don't forget anything, but I would be happy to pay you for whatever I promised for that review. I'm not sure I have any new WoO shirts left, but we'll work something out. I do appreciate you not hounding me for payment right after my dad died.
Quote: AxelWolfI have a feeling his is in better shape than yours.
I really do hope so. He went on a real rant like someone took his milk bottle away. Like he won the lottery but then lost the ticket. Like that "hot" girl he made out with at Tao has an Adam's Apple.
Quote: AxelWolfAt least not as himself obnoxiousofchoice ( sorry AX I couldn't resist )
Oh now you are taking shots at him. How dare you!!?!?!?!?!?!
Mida. The Ax left on his own. He wasn't banned. So that means he can be back here whenever.
He will get over it, Ill even send him a link.Quote: DMSCRI really do hope so. He went on a real rant like someone took his milk bottle away. Like he won the lottery but then lost the ticket. Like that "hot" girl he made out with at Tao has an Adam's Apple.
Oh now you are taking shots at him. How dare you!!?!?!?!?!?!
Mida. The Ax left on his own. He wasn't banned. So that means he can be back here whenever.
He is lucky I had to keep it PG.
Quote: djatcCan we unban varmenti for a systems player he kept me entertained the most. As a matter of fact can we unban everyone so they can be banned again
Now I know how varmenti got more than one vote in all the polls
Quote: AxelWolfHe is lucky I had to keep it PG.
Yes. He is extremely lucky to have a friend like you to look out for him and defend his honor. You are a true samurai.
Quote: GWAElarry is far from comic relief. He was basically a useless piece of crap that wasted our times with his nonsensical posts.
In the history of people's internet posts that I have read in any format, Larry's were--by a longshot--the stupidest things that I ever read. I actually laughed when thinking about it when I was doing something completely unrelated, because he was so mentally inferior to the average person, but had the confidence of a superhero. In other words, I liked reading many of his posts.
I also think it is messed up that Wiz asked for donations to run something he sold for a couple mil a mere one month later. Funny how you might hear phrases like "run this out generosity' or 'in dire straits' just before the massive profits in any situation similar to this. Don't we all wish we all would fall on similarly rough times? But I wasn't here for that, nor would I ever have considered donating, so whatever to that.
.Quote: Wizard
I am first and foremost a man of my word.
Agreed,,, and thanks Mike.
I can understand how some of you folks felt being punch in the gut and "betrayed" especially for those who donated. If Mike or one of his staff members came out with the announcement with a message to contact him to return the donations as opposed to a forum member announcing the takeover this wouldn't be so scrutinized strongly by a few. Also I am sure Mike didn't know there would be this offer that was why he asked for donations. Now there is this deal which hopefully it goes through for Mike's sake, Mike is returning your money if you wish.
