Vegas shutting down again rumor
Quote: tringlomaneThis is the next logical step, imo. Ban smoking and the masks will definitely stay on more.
I tend to agree. Unfortunately, CV19 hospitalizations in NV are now running higher when compared to the highs of April. It seems likely something may need to be done about the smoking inside buildings. But I do wonder how this could be implemented. Do we really want people consolidated around the various entrances and exits smoking outside?
https://nvhealthresponse.nv.gov/
In case anyone missed this yesterday. Cosmo looked particularly hard hit. If there's such a thing as a complete partial-information mess, Las Vegas would be it.
Quote: darkozAtlanta Georgia(the entire city) has now re-closed for Coronavirus.
Literally decided to go back to phase one.
Reopening too early didn't work
I have not come across any other reports of this. Can you provide a link to a complete story?
Quote: DocI have not come across any other reports of this. Can you provide a link to a complete story?
https://www.cbs46.com/atlanta-returns-to-phase-1-reopening-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases/video_4c768a4d-e97a-5628-8eb7-c2a19cce1e4c.html
Georgia governor Kemp has declared the city cannot be shutdown.
The mayor said it is.
So now it looks like forced opening?
But the mayor is enforcing her order.
What a cluster frick
Quote: darkozhttps://www.cbs46.com/atlanta-returns-to-phase-1-reopening-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases/video_4c768a4d-e97a-5628-8eb7-c2a19cce1e4c.html
Georgia governor Kemp has declared the city cannot be shutdown.
The mayor said it is.
So now it looks like forced opening?
But the mayor is enforcing her order.
What a cluster frick
I've loved Mayor Bottoms eversince she screamed and yelled at the protestors/looters during a CNN live interview. Now she learns from the Canadians and does the right thing to shut down Atlanta. Wearing masks, isolating and shutting off are the keys to control the covid19. That is how the Canadians do it. Look at the covid19-chart, USA's 3,246,000 cases vs Canada's 109,200 cases :
https://imgur.com/hl6Qz3d
Hmmm...now I know why 81% of Canadians have dumbed down against Americans and have insisted that Canada-U.S. border should stay closed.
How can we open the border points when all of Canada's 37 million people only had about 1600 new cases in the past week !!! averaging just over 200 new cases per day across the whole country. And if we could look at those numbers without including all the migrant workers at the area green houses here they would be around 1000 for the past week. Just one greenhouse operation account for over 200 cases .
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/nature-fresh-covid-19-testing-1.5639440
I would say 99% of the people in stores are wearing masks few don't as people with certain medical conditions are not required to wear one .
You can bet when the casino opens here the rules will require a mask and they already do not allow smoking
Quote: darkozhttps://www.cbs46.com/atlanta-returns-to-phase-1-reopening-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases/video_4c768a4d-e97a-5628-8eb7-c2a19cce1e4c.html
Georgia governor Kemp has declared the city cannot be shutdown.
The mayor said it is.
So now it looks like forced opening?
But the mayor is enforcing her order.
What a cluster frick
This is true.
I live in GA.
The Goveneor is trying to override Mayors who want to close down....
This has been the trend since the beginning, and the state "restrictions" are very loose compared to prior local lockdowns....
There is a battle in my city right now with mandatory mask wearing, and the Governor not being happy with it....
Govenor wants one standard across the state, and no municipality can enact stricter restrictions....
Anyway, that probably already got too political, but yes, your assessment of the situation is correct, its a cluster....
Quote: ArmageddenI've loved Mayor Bottoms eversince she screamed and yelled at the protestors/looters during a CNN live interview. Now she learns from the Canadians and does the right thing to shut down Atlanta. Wearing masks, isolating and shutting off are the keys to control the covid19. That is how the Canadians do it. Look at the covid19-chart, USA's 3,246,000 cases vs Canada's 109,200 cases :
https://imgur.com/hl6Qz3d
Hmmm...now I know why 81% of Canadians have dumbed down against Americans and have insisted that Canada-U.S. border should stay closed.
When you're stricter on restrictions and have higher compliance from your citizens, you get better results with regards to beating this horrible virus. Seeing it at the state level here for some states and in various countries around the world.
City and county strife is common in Atlanta area.
The trick is to treat victims on paper but actually send them to inadequately staffed and funded 'showers" where children are told 'your parents are poor so we will not value you". You end a pandemic by welding the apartment house doors shut.
Quote: FleaStiffAtlanta is black, suburbs are white and black.
City and county strife is common in Atlanta area.
The trick is to treat victims on paper but actually send them to inadequately staffed and funded 'showers" where children are told 'your parents are poor so we will not value you". You end a pandemic by welding the apartment house doors shut.
What???
Is this some kind of racist post?
Quote: AlanMendelsonWhat???
Is this some kind of racist post?
I think it's more like angry sardonic posting. China welded apartment doors shut in Wuhan, for example. Kids are in cages at the borders, and we're not hearing anything about their COVID rates, except rumors. Etc.
Anyway, I don't read it as racist.
Quote: beachbumbabsI think it's more like angry sardonic posting. China welded apartment doors shut in Wuhan, for example. Kids are in cages at the borders, and we're not hearing anything about their COVID rates, except rumors. Etc.
Anyway, I don't read it as racist.
Gotta agree.... It takes a deep understanding of hieroglyphics, Latin, and Portuguese to make sense of Flea's posts.....
Quote: SOOPOOGotta agree.... It takes a deep understanding of hieroglyphics, Latin, and Portuguese to make sense of Flea's posts.....
It's an outstanding example of authentic frontier gibberish.
They are still waiting for the heat to Kill the Coronavirus
Quote: darkozHardest hit Arizona and Texas are now in 100+ degree heat.
They are still waiting for the heat to Kill the Coronavirus
The virus is dead on outdoor surfaces. It lives well in air conditioned buildings.
Quote: AlanMendelsonBoth Boyd and Stations have stopped smoking at table games. If you lower your mask to drink you must step back from the table.
The entire mask guideline (rule, whatever you want to call it) is asinine because anyone with a drink or cigarette or cigar or vape at the slots or walking around can effectively have the mask hang off their chin (or ear) and no one is saying a word to them. I saw 20-25 cases of slot players Friday night simply pulling the mask off their face for the entire time they sat at a slot...whether they were actually smoking or not. Cig in hand (lit or unlit) or pack on slot machine was enough to circumvent the rule.
Beyond stupid....yet those not smoking are required to put the mask on wherever they are.
My understanding is the intent of the guideline is “pull mask down, take puff, sip, guzzle, inhale, etc....and PULL MASK UP. Not leave mask off for the entire time a drink sits on the slot machine or a cigarette is in ash tray.
Quote: TDVegasThe entire mask guideline (rule, whatever you want to call it) is asinine because anyone with a drink or cigarette or cigar or vape at the slots or walking around can effectively have the mask hang off their chin (or ear) and no one is saying a word to them. I saw 20-25 cases of slot players Friday night simply pulling the mask off their face for the entire time they sat at a slot...whether they were actually smoking or not. Cig in hand (lit or unlit) or pack on slot machine was enough to circumvent the rule.
Beyond stupid....yet those not smoking are required to put the mask on wherever they are.
My understanding is the intent of the guideline is “pull mask down, take puff, sip, guzzle, inhale, etc....and PULL MASK UP. Not leave mask off for the entire time a drink sits on the slot machine or a cigarette is in ash tray.
I think you're correct. Take your sip or puff and put it back on.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI think you're correct. Take your sip or puff and put it back on.
Correct...but they are not doing that and it is NOT being enforced at all. So, effectively what you have is those who want to blow covid smoke are free to do so. No mask.
Insanely stupid.
Quote: mcallister3200There’s no exception in the mandate for smoking, there is one for eating and drinking when able to maintain distance. Operators are simply making the decision to refuse to enforce the guidelines as written.
I don’t believe the mandate goes into that kind of detail. I believe the intent of the rule is you pull the mask down to drink or smoke (puff) and pull it back up. NOT just leave it off because you have a drink or ashtray on your slot.
As several casinos are now enforcing no smoking at tables...slots is still effectively “do what you want”.
20+ times I saw it Friday night. Mask on chin with ZERO attempt to put it on after puffing.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI think you're correct. Take your sip or puff and put it back on.
Yes, that is the policy. But you could eliminate a lot of the temporary mask removal by eliminating smoking while providing cleaner air for everyone to breathe.
Quote: VegasriderYes, that is the policy. But you could eliminate a lot of the temporary mask removal by eliminating smoking while providing cleaner air for everyone to breathe.
Or, just do what Atlantic City is doing. No smoking, drinking, or eating. That would simplify things.
Quote: DRichOr, just do what Atlantic City is doing. No smoking, drinking, or eating. That would simplify things.
You could allow all 3...but you cannot allow them to circumvent the intent of the rule, which is exactly what all of them are doing.
Mask down, sip, puff, mask up is the intent.
What they are doing is simply letting the mask hang off as they have a drink or ashtray on the slot machine. ZERO enforcement.
This is how Ted Cruz was photographed today on an AA flight. His representative played the “he had a coffee cup” card to ignore the rule.
Quote: DRichOr, just do what Atlantic City is doing. No smoking, drinking, or eating. That would simplify things.
IMO, NJ is doing it right. People constantly show us they will abuse any exception to a "mask" rule.
Ummm... how do AC casinos deal with water? As noted above, players need to stay hydrated.
If a business isn't enforcing the mask laws to your satisfaction, vote with your feet, and don't give them any business.
Quote: LuckyPhowIMO, NJ is doing it right. People constantly show us they will abuse any exception to a "mask" rule.
Ummm... how do AC casinos deal with water? As noted above, players need to stay hydrated.
I believe there are no exceptions and no serving girls.
If a player needs water they do like smokers and go onto the boardwalk.
Truthfully most people need a drink of water less often than smokers need a puff
But I am also guessing the "return to sports" isn't going to go too well nor last very long. These millionaire players aren't going to want to be guinea pigs. Once they start testing positive and a few get sick, they will balk. College Football is already on the path to cancelling the season and the NFL will have no choice but to follow.
Once sports is gone again if cases, hospitalizations and deaths continue to rise, I think you will see casinos closed again. I also don't think you will see schools and colleges opening as some politicians want (for their own self interest).
Remember summer time and higher temperatures, with people out doors more was supposed to be the time and conditions that we got a break from this virus, that it all but disappeared before a return in the fall. Well it has done anything but disappear. The uptick in the fall is going to be nasty.
Quote: LuckyPhowIMO, NJ is doing it right. People constantly show us they will abuse any exception to a "mask" rule.
And that’s exactly what they are doing in Vegas....abusing the mask mandate.
It’s not the grocery stores or Walmart or Home Depot. I’d say compliance is near 100% in those businesses. It’s the casino floor..specifically slots. At the table games, the pit is right there and employees will enforce the rule. On the slots...forget it. Compliance for smokers and many drinkers is pathetic.
Quote: kewljRemember summer time and higher temperatures, with people out doors more was supposed to be the time and conditions that we got a break from this virus, that it all but disappeared before a return in the fall. Well it has done anything but disappear. The uptick in the fall is going to be nasty.
Yep. The “experts” were guessing then as they are now. Truth be told, no one really knows how and when this will end.
The Governor out here has already admitted his mistake without actually admitting it. He was advised to make masks mandatory. He and his experts said not needed. A month later, changes course.
Quote: mcallister3200, but I don’t think holding the sports in empty stadiums really adds any more significant risk than everyone has in their life right now anyway.
Well baseball is played outdoor, so they have that going for it.
And baseball is a non-contact sport for the most part, so they have that going for it.
But the batter is standing a foot or two away from the catcher and the umpire and a runner at first base is a foot away from the first baseman. Are these players going to be wearing masks, which is necessary to minimize spread? What about the players in the dugout? 6 feet apart? wearing masks?
And it gets worse from there with other sports. Basketball? Lots of contact. Players are within inches of each other, bumping ect, so they definitely aren't going to be social distancing. Will they be wearing masks?
Then there is the off the field situations. Will players retire directly to their rooms? Will they be eating meals in their rooms, or some restaurant/cafeteria type location, where they are all together presenting a higher risk of spread?
I just don't think it is going to work. Sports may consist of Golf, tennis, Nascar for a while. ;/ And I am not happy about it. I love my football weekends.
Quote: kewljMy guess is Nevada Casinos won't be shutting down right now. With Baseball scheduled to start next week and NBA and NHL the following week, they are going to want to have sportsbooks open and see what that brings.
But I am also guessing the "return to sports" isn't going to go too well nor last very long. These millionaire players aren't going to want to be guinea pigs. Once they start testing positive and a few get sick, they will balk. College Football is already on the path to cancelling the season and the NFL will have no choice but to follow.
Once sports is gone again if cases, hospitalizations and deaths continue to rise, I think you will see casinos closed again. I also don't think you will see schools and colleges opening as some politicians want (for their own self interest).
Remember summer time and higher temperatures, with people out doors more was supposed to be the time and conditions that we got a break from this virus, that it all but disappeared before a return in the fall. Well it has done anything but disappear. The uptick in the fall is going to be nasty.
There were a few unscrupulous people pushing the heat theory.
Anyone who wanted to was able to debunk that from the start.
The disease spread around the globe simultaneously.
And the globe is hot in many places all year round and opposite our weather in many spots.
Once Australia got a bad case of Coronavirus IN THEIR SUMMER it was obvious the heat wasn't doing anything
Quote: AlanMendelsonYes heat stops the virus. There's no heat inside air conditioned buildings.
That is only partially true, Alan. Heat and sunlight can kill the virus on hard surfaces like metal. But it does nothing to the airborne virus. Some of the biggest spread events have been beaches and parties at lakes and swimming pools because people are packed close together and not wearing masks.
Quote: AlanMendelsonYes heat stops the virus. There's no heat inside air conditioned buildings.
I am sure Brazil is one of the most air conditioned countries in the world
Quote: darkozI am sure Brazil is one of the most air conditioned countries in the world
You understand that its winter in the Southern hemisphere right now?
Quote: billryanIt is 4 pm in Brazil as I type this, and it is 82 degrees.
Yeah that's winter in Brazil.
Imagine summer.
Yep, the heat kills Coronavirus
It's time to shut everything down.
37 bars in Clark County are suing for unfair treatment saying they were singled out and casino floors can still operate.
Then let's shut the casino floors too. And shut all businesses. After all... you're telling us that warmer temps don't work, social distancing won't work, UV lights won't work, hand washing and sanitizing won't work, gloves and masks won't work, so shut it all down.
Oh... but 99% recover? Well, be sure you volunteer for the 1% who die.
Reject all the alternatives and you have to turn off the lights. The party is over.
And that is precisely why I have tried to be overly cautious every step of the way. I decided the casino environment was a problem and shut down my casino play before casinos shut down. And when they re-opened, I went back but quickly decided that people weren't doing things they were supposed to do like wear masks and stopped my casino play....MY LIVLIHOOD yet again.
Unfortunately 2 years ago after my partner died, I moved to a condominium, a multi-home, multi family type place and that worked against me and my brother and I both caught this damn virus. When we both got through it, I was relieved and though that gave us some protection or immunity going forward. Based on new evidence emerging, I no longer think that.
The point is, that this remains a new virus that they are learning new things about everyday. We don't know when it goes away. We don't know if a person can contract it a second or third time. We don't know how long any immunity might last. We don't know if at some point it will start to mutate in a way, that REALLY screws us all. So far mutation or different strains have been minor.
There is so much we don't know. But what we do know is that wearing a mask helps minimize transmission as does social distancing. Incredibly to my way of thinking, a good portion of the population has decided they just can't or don't want to be bothered. And the result is you look at the charts for the U.S. vs almost every other country and we are the worst. Almost every other country has managed to get a pretty good grip on this thing. We have failed. This isn't political, I am not blaming anyone in particular, I am blaming the American people, unwilling to do what needs to be done. Just can't be bothered. The result is this virus is going to be part of our lives for a very long time.
Quote: kewljAlan, I am surprises at your " just wanting to go about your business" attitude, being that you are among the more vulnerable population based on age and previous health issues. ??? What is the deal, are you just unwilling to give up your precious gambling even at the risk of your health and life? Is gambling THAT important to you?
Wow are you wrong.
Have you looked at my Facebook page? Ive been saying the casinos should never have reopened.
Ive been saying the country should have stayed in lockdown and the federal government should have paid us to stay locked down.
Quote: kewljOn a positive note, real estate prices here in Vegas are surprisingly UP. They dipped a bit the first month of the shutdown, but then immediately returned to levels above pre-shutdown. I am seriously considering selling my condo and buying a small ranch 90 minutes outside of Vegas that I have had my eye on. I looked at the property last fall, long before this virus, but didn't pull the trigger. I am ready to get out of Vegas in a more rural community for a couple years. All I have to do is convince my brother who loves our current condo.
Would these be the ones marketed near Dolan Springs? I looked at them and loved the price. Then I looked into Dolan Springs. Its a very, very religious community who weren't happy that the development was being built and two people expressed fear that homosexuals would buy weekend retreats and promote their lifestyle while shopping in town.
Quote: billryanWould these be the ones marketed near Dolan Springs? I looked at them and loved the price. Then I looked into Dolan Springs. Its a very, very religious community who weren't happy that the development was being built and two people expressed fear that homosexuals would buy weekend retreats and promote their lifestyle while shopping in town.
No still in Nevada.
