TDVegas
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July 5th, 2020 at 10:51:42 AM permalink
It will be a death blow if Vegas shuts down again. The ramifications of the first shutdown arenít even being felt yet. That will come as foreclosures, evictions and bankruptcies go thru the roof. Throw in the thousands here in Vegas who only survive week to week on a full paycheck....let alone half.

A dealer at Golden Nugget told me he, along with many other dealers were axed the other day.

Iím a little worried...not right now, but what is coming down the line if we cannot get this virus under control. The $600 extra per week UI is holding a LOT of people at treading water. Thatís ending in 3 weeks.

As it is, Iím surprised anyone wants to come to Vegas. With all the restrictions now...fun has taken a back seat. If itís just gambling...only gambling, maybe I could see getting on a plane. But those people are generally die hards who rarely see the sun set or rise or anything else Vegas has to offer.

Iíll be damned if Iím going to wait in line to get into the pool area. Wearing a mask for marathon gambling sessions? Not sure about anyone else...pass.
billryan
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July 5th, 2020 at 11:02:50 AM permalink
One of my neighbors in N.Y. manages what I call zombie rock bands. These are bands that were once fairly popular but haven't had a recording contract in years and survive by touring and merchandise sales. In many cases, there are few ,if any, of the original members but they play casinos, fairs, street festivals, etc,etc.

Sometimes he would have three or four tours going simultaneously, and he provided a living for well over a hundred people. While not a charity, it was a labor of love as the money wasn't that great, and the headaches were quite demanding.
On Friday, he announced he is shutting down. He is in his early sixties, his kids weren't interested in working in the family biz and he thinks it will be at least two summers before things will return to normal.
Vegasrider
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July 5th, 2020 at 11:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I want to focus on Vegas Strip properties for now as they tend to be the biggest draw for tourists.

In 2019 STRIP PROPERTIES ONLY: Gaming revenue was 34.83%, Room was 28.34%, Food was 16.39%, Drink 7.43%, Other 13.02%.


Vegasrider, one of the biggest way of turning off a customer is pricing the customer out by raising the limit. Vegas rely heavily on low and mid rollers who come regularly to enjoy vegas. .



Vegas strip does NOT cater to the low or mid rollers! Quite the opposite. Maybe downtown casinos,. I'm in Reno, now this city caters to the low-mid rollers.

With conventions and pretty much all forms of entertainment shut down, Nevada currently must rely on the hotel tax, restaurants and gaming revenue. Pretty much all the people from California is supporting Nevada right now.
TDVegas
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July 5th, 2020 at 11:19:52 AM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Pretty much all the people from California is supporting Nevada right now.


On the roads here...I thought Nevada drivers were the worlds worst. They canít hold a candle to Cali drivers on that front. Jeez. No matter how many warnings they are given from Primm to Vegas on the 15 about zero tolerance on speeding....95-100mph is more the norm than the exception. Must be a cash cow for NHP.
darkoz
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July 5th, 2020 at 12:10:41 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

On the roads here...I thought Nevada drivers were the worlds worst. They canít hold a candle to Cali drivers on that front. Jeez. No matter how many warnings they are given from Primm to Vegas on the 15 about zero tolerance on speeding....95-100mph is more the norm than the exception. Must be a cash cow for NHP.



Yep.

First time I visited Cali a friend who had moved from NY to LA met me.

His first warning:. Do NOT cross the street like a NY'er. You will become roadkill very fast.

NY'ers have a habit of walking thru traffic and putting our arms up to tell motorists to stop. We own the streets
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
SiegfriedRoy
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July 5th, 2020 at 1:20:52 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Vegas strip does NOT cater to the low or mid rollers! Quite the opposite



Maybe you and I have different definition of mid and low rollers.

When I add the term of ďroller,Ē itís a bit of a term of endearment and it describes people who have propensity to gamble a bit. In my definition, I do have people I consider lower than ďlow-rollers.Ē These are typical ploppy tourists who drop $100 - $200 in slots per typical weekend.

However, my definition of low rollers is as follows:
-Low rollers $200-$300 gambling budget per day.
-Mid roller $300-500 gambling budget per day.
MJGolf
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July 5th, 2020 at 2:51:59 PM permalink
Quote: Moonsovermyhamy

All Casinos really have to do is enforce Social Distancing, make lots of hand sanitizer available, make everyone wear face masks, and if you are not wearing the face mask except for eating or drinking, you are told to leave The Casino. There will be people who really shouldn't be wearing masks(People with Asthma in particular) but in that case they most likely will not be able to enter The Casino in the first place.



Out here this weekend, and all casinos that I have been ARE enforcing the mask wearing and Social Distancing rule. Some are using the social distancing to stop folks from even watching blackjack games. So it is MORE difficult to backcount for sure. But I haven't seen them enforce the midshoe entry rules on double deck as before either. But not all the casinos are open. Definitely not all the bars and restaurants. But being a holiday weekend (July 4), it is definitely the most crowded it's been since the shut down. I did NOT like the Fremont Street area for the west side/main area as there were too many people funneled into the area through metal detectors and NO social distancing there. The only worthwhile thing was no kids/under 21 were allowed. The east part of downtown and Container Park were very sparsely populated however.
MJGolf
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July 5th, 2020 at 2:58:55 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Remember, most if not all the casinos has raised the table minimums. Players are losing their money at a much faster pace...... they are still buying in for the same amount when the table minimums were before covid hit. Doesnít take long for players to go broke.



I can also verify this. Even today walking around scouting, minimums were higher than usual at some of the casinos. And you would think that with the limited players PER table that they would INCREASE number of tables open. I have only noticed a very, very minimal increase of opening more tables. It is as crowded this weekend as I would think it has been since the Covid shutdown.
kewlj
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July 5th, 2020 at 3:02:06 PM permalink
Quote: MJGolf

Out here this weekend, and all casinos that I have been ARE enforcing the mask wearing and Social Distancing rule.



That is funny as I didn't think they were doing such a good job enforcing the masks. Before Masks were mandated, and were only "recommended" people wearing masks were like 20-25%. I was downtown (at the D) the first day after masks were mandated and I would say 90% were wearing masks. Today I put the number at about 75%. You might think 75% is pretty good, but masks are mandated! And not just for casinos, but anytime your in public.

And by the way I don't consider patrons with a mask on their chin, covering neither their nose nor mouth as wearing a mask. Neither are the people with a mask hanging from one ear. In the end, if casinos here in Las Vegas are shut down again, it will be because people couldn't be bothered wearing a damn mask.
TDVegas
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July 5th, 2020 at 4:30:08 PM permalink
The casino floor at Red Rock today had decent compliance with masks. The ONLY ones flaunting the rule are smokers. I guess a cigar or cigarette in your hand, lit or unlit, gives you carte blanche to have the mask hang off your ear for the entire time you are in the casino.

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